Joanna + 68 JT May 9, 2018 California will soon become the first state to require all new homes be built with solar panels. Most new homes built after Jan. 1, 2020, will be required to include solar systems as part of energy-efficiency standards adopted Wednesday by the California Energy Commission. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnAtronis + 78 JA May 9, 2018 but will drive up the cost of buying a house by almost $10,000 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
李伟王芳 + 77 ZL May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, JohnAtronis said: but will drive up the cost of buying a house by almost $10,000 Solar shares surged upon the decision, while homebuilders fell, but it is settle down. It is necessary step 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nigerian Price + 22 SK May 9, 2018 solar should be heavily subsidized. Leave fossil with nothing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hajga Loma DK + 47 HL May 9, 2018 solar powered panels on roofs was the number one upgrade was for all new homes in the last year. Why are we still talking about oil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cokiga Damke + 53 CD May 9, 2018 Solar may soon become the only means of generating electricity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meanwhile + 49 PT May 9, 2018 Meanwhile, Midwestern states are working on legislation that will mandate coal burners in new homes. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnAtronis + 78 JA May 9, 2018 15 minutes ago, Joanna said: California will soon become the first state to require all new homes be built with solar panels. Most new homes built after Jan. 1, 2020, will be required to include solar systems as part of energy-efficiency standards adopted Wednesday by the California Energy Commission. with housing prices driven up California will solidify it's spot at the homeless capital of the nation. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meanwhile + 49 PT May 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, JohnAtronis said: with housing prices driven up California will solidify it's spot at the homeless capital of the nation. thats called the free market. You should step out of Barnsville sometimes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cokiga Damke + 53 CD May 9, 2018 So at $12,000...$80 a month energy savings...it'll break even after 12.5 years. That's right about the time panels will have to be replaced as their efficiency has dropped 33%. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
李伟王芳 + 77 ZL May 9, 2018 actually the average generation capacity of modern panels is more like 20-25 years and with multi junction versions they estimate 40 years plus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cokiga Damke + 53 CD May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, 李伟王芳 said: actually the average generation capacity of modern panels is more like 20-25 years and with multi junction versions they estimate 40 years plus Maybe in household appliances. Solar panel don't have that lifespan. One good hail storm and you've got a wrecked solar roof. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 May 11, 2018 (edited) Californians pay far more for their "clean energy" than any other state in the union. The costs keep going higher all the time. $440,000 now. Solar panels should be a choice. They are ugly and the savings are minimal if you figure the interest you will pay on purchasing them. https://www.electricitylocal.com/states/california// Edited May 11, 2018 by ronwagn added reference Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Berselli + 1 AB May 16, 2018 Bad news, people are leaving California thanks for bad government choices. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rodent + 1,424 May 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Andrew Berselli said: Bad news, people are leaving California thanks for bad government choices. That's not necessarily bad news. I mean, if you are California government, I suppose it is. Look, California's home prices and tax structure and whatever have caused it to be one of the top five states for losing people to other states. Guess where they're going? Texas. No surprises here. California would like the rest of the world to think that all its residents share its earthy-crunchy values. Okay, maybe some do, but that doesn't mean its residents can afford to live those ideals. My daughter doesn't like the idea of killing animals for food. Nevertheless, her ideals quickly vanish when presented with a burger. Californians talk a good game, that's all. Few are willing to make the sacrifices to make this world a greener place. Cows are super cute. Burgers are super yummy. Life is a series of tough choices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Refman + 207 GN May 16, 2018 I'm not in California, but I'm getting solar panels in a couple of weeks. Can't wait to see how well they work. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanilKa + 443 May 17, 2018 On 5/10/2018 at 6:05 AM, JohnAtronis said: but will drive up the cost of buying a house by almost $10,000 that's mere 1% of a Californian home... This will only intensify exodus from the state and potentially exacerbate duck curve issue, unless houses forced to consume during peak production (plausible, for AC - provided solar is not oversized). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SLL + 24 SL May 17, 2018 On 5/9/2018 at 3:27 PM, 李伟王芳 said: actually the average generation capacity of modern panels is more like 20-25 years and with multi junction versions they estimate 40 years plus And we know this because 'modern' panels have been around for 20-25 years? Color me cynical. On 5/9/2018 at 3:29 PM, Cokiga Damke said: Maybe in household appliances. Solar panel don't have that lifespan. One good hail storm and you've got a wrecked solar roof. I don't live there, so not sure how often CA needs to worry about hail storm. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scotsman + 14 LB May 19, 2018 They just officially mandated this .... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 May 19, 2018 On 5/10/2018 at 4:29 AM, Cokiga Damke said: Maybe in household appliances. Solar panel don't have that lifespan. One good hail storm and you've got a wrecked solar roof. ^ Yep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Refman + 207 GN May 20, 2018 On 5/9/2018 at 3:29 PM, Cokiga Damke said: Maybe in household appliances. Solar panel don't have that lifespan. One good hail storm and you've got a wrecked solar roof. Tell your insurance about the panels to make sure they're covered under your Home Owners Insurance policy. Anything hard enough to wreck the panels will probably wreck the roof as well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cokiga Damke + 53 CD May 21, 2018 16 hours ago, Refman said: Tell your insurance about the panels to make sure they're covered under your Home Owners Insurance policy. Anything hard enough to wreck the panels will probably wreck the roof as well. a bit of wind leaves me with no power as well, so I don't think solar is fragile as they claim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnAtronis + 78 JA May 21, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 4:15 PM, Andrew Berselli said: Bad news, people are leaving California thanks for bad government choices. to become homeless capital Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Foote + 1,135 JF August 9, 2018 On 5/9/2018 at 3:29 PM, Cokiga Damke said: Maybe in household appliances. Solar panel don't have that lifespan. One good hail storm and you've got a wrecked solar roof. Nope. 25 year warranties have been in play for years. Grapefruit sized hail isn’t a problem. Efficiencies do drop, but panels from the 70s are working today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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