Sources confirm Trump to sign two new Executive orders.

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10 hours ago, ronwagn said:

I would never trust the USPS with ballots. They are predominantly Democrats because they are subsidized by the government and know that they may all be out of a job if Republicans do the right thing and privatize them. Trump would anyway, if he could.

See United States Postal Service Problems 

 https://docs.google.com/document/d/14eYBbtNv2fDBCr-UPLyN1f_j1CqrxkJJMjcKQqBviRs/edit

I think the USPS needs reform for sure; I'm also not certain how to guarantee access to rural areas with sparse population in a profitable way w/o large subsidies by the taxpayer.

Haven't most identified issues with mail in and/or absentee ballots been at the end chain of custody (whatever elections department is counting the ballots), not with the carrier? That type of issue also exists at day-of-election voting. Provided there is a modicum of physical security involved (e.g, a security envelope), it is not hard to verify that there wasn't tampering in the chain of custody.

In this election cycle, because of COVID, there seemed to have been an acceleration in the number of people voting by absentee or mail in primaries (this happened in deeply red states as well). I think the more people try it and get used to the convenience, the more individual states will just switch to it. This has been the long term trend for a very long time. COVID might just be an accelerant.

 

I don't think it will remain a partisan issue a few election cycles down the road. Who knows, e-voting might also be an option then if the requisite cybersecurity kinks are worked out.

Edited July 8, 2020 by surrept33

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On 7/7/2020 at 10:27 AM, surrept33 said:

Yet, there are entire states that have been successfully voting by mail for years:

https://sos.oregon.gov/elections/Documents/statistics/vote-by-mail-timeline.pdf

It's the entire west coast now, along with other inclusionary policies such as automatic voter registration of various forms.

Election Mail Fraud ?

Remember the Minnesota Senate race Incumbant Norm Coleman v. Al Franken.

It was a close one.  They were up counting Ballots all night.  Cole had about 300 vote lead in the morning.  Then three separate groups of absentee ballots from the same Ramsey county showed up that happen to be almost all for All Franken.

Al wins. 

That one Senate seat was VERY VERY IMPORTANT to solidifying the Democratic majority.  

               _____________________

Article "Remember that Rigged Election"   https://www.redstate.com/patterico/2016/10/20/throwback-thursday-remember-rigged-al-franken-election/

                ___________________________

Then Yesterday Al Franken HAS THE BALLS TO SAY  about November election .. .. "If it's a close election Trump is cheating"

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/07/06/al-franken-trump-is-cheating-if-its-a-close-election-he-may-not-leave/

"He may not leave". Has the world gone crazy.  Democrats have lost their minds. Really.

               ______________________

https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/more_franken_ballots_found/

I can think of 1001 ways to cheat with absentee ballots. That number goes up 10,000 ways when all mail in ballots are used.

Edited July 8, 2020 by BLA

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15 hours ago, ronwagn said:

I would never trust the USPS with ballots. They are predominantly Democrats because they are subsidized by the government and know that they may all be out of a job if Republicans do the right thing and privatize them. Trump would anyway, if he could.

 

The postal service is in the constitution, trump can't touch them.

The problem with privatizing mail is that service to remote area routes would be discontinued as it is not profitable. 

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6 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

The postal service is in the constitution, trump can't touch them.

The problem with privatizing mail is that service to remote area routes would be discontinued as it is not profitable. 

 

6 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

The postal service is in the constitution, trump can't touch them.

The problem with privatizing mail is that service to remote area routes would be discontinued as it is not profitable. 

I would agree for first class mail which could be delivered to remote areas by the USPS  on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, but Amazon or other accredited companies reach most places and could deliver first class mail to their existing and new boxes. My topic covers the subject pretty well. The USPS is an authorized agent of the federal government but is now a non for profit agency that needs to be heavily subsidized by the government annually. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service#:~:text=The USPS traces its roots to 1775 during,with the passage of the Postal Service Act.

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On 7/6/2020 at 8:23 PM, BLA said:

EXECUTIVE ORDER #1

(1) Due to Coronavirus Apocalypse the Presidential election will be rescheduled until November 2021.

EXECUTIVE ORDER # 2

(2) All Presidential Candidates shall successfully complete the Montreal Cognitive Test before their name is placed on the ballot.

Sources say Nancy Pelosi has instructed Congressmen  Schiff to commence a second impeachment.

I knew he would try this.

DNC MUST replace Biden now while we can. 

According to Mike Moore, Trump will be last POTUS

Edited July 9, 2020 by Hotone

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11 hours ago, surrept33 said:

I think the USPS needs reform for sure; I'm also not certain how to guarantee access to rural areas with sparse population in a profitable way w/o large subsidies by the taxpayer.

Haven't most identified issues with mail in and/or absentee ballots been at the end chain of custody (whatever elections department is counting the ballots), not with the carrier? That type of issue also exists at day-of-election voting. Provided there is a modicum of physical security involved (e.g, a security envelope), it is not hard to verify that there wasn't tampering in the chain of custody.

In this election cycle, because of COVID, there seemed to have been an acceleration in the number of people voting by absentee or mail in primaries (this happened in deeply red states as well). I think the more people try it and get used to the convenience, the more individual states will just switch to it. This has been the long term trend for a very long time. COVID might just be an accelerant.

 

I don't think it will remain a partisan issue a few election cycles down the road. Who knows, e-voting might also be an option then if the requisite cybersecurity kinks are worked out.

There have been endless plans by the Democratic Party to make voting easy for everyone and that includes voting more than once, voting whether you are a citizen or not, are alive or not, etc. That trend requires great caution and oversight to have a legitimate election. 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/what-is-ballot-harvesting

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12 hours ago, surrept33 said:

I'd put my money on Keisha Bottoms. She seems to be Jim Clyburn and the congressional black caucus' pick too. It helps that she's 50 years old.

If the Floyd protests didn't happen I think it would have been someone else.

The problem there is name recognition. Will the average Democrat vote in a "no name" as the highly potential next President? Maybe, because Trump Derangement Syndrome is very common right now. Many say they are voting more AGAINST President Trump than FOR anyone in particular. I think the Biden team has already waited too long to pick a candidate. If Keisha can turn Georgia Blue that is ONE good reason to choose her. She has been a mayor of Atlanta for only three years, with no apparent achievements and some minor scandals. Definitely not someone I would endorse for President. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_recognition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keisha_Lance_Bottoms

https://www.usnews.com/news/cities/articles/2019-07-25/could-the-us-ever-elect-a-mayor-for-president#:~:text=Yet American mayors mostly have not. No mayor,in 1923%2C after Warren Harding died in office.

Edited July 9, 2020 by ronwagn
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1 hour ago, ronwagn said:

There have been endless plans by the Democratic Party to make voting easy for everyone and that includes voting more than once, voting whether you are a citizen or not, are alive or not, etc. That trend requires great caution and oversight to have a legitimate election. 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/what-is-ballot-harvesting

I think it's important to both encourage voting participation and preserve sanctity of elections. We've had issues with both disfranchisement and fraud in our country; I think both are important.

I think every situation has to be looked at individually with nuance because of the diversity of state laws, but I don't necessarily have problems with the form of ballot harvesting that was conducted in California (when it was legalized in 2016). In the 2018 elections, Democrat groups seemed to have been more organized with direct to voter outreach programs, which helped in the 2018 elections (for example in Orange County). This onto itself doesn't imply any sort of fraud.

Heck, the California GOP has woken up and will likely have a massive voter outreach program of their own this time:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/politics/kfile-lara-trump-rnc-robocall/index.html

Still, the Democrats were bound to pick up more and more seats in Orange County regardless:

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1 hour ago, ronwagn said:

The problem there is name recognition. Will the average Democrat vote in a "no name" as the highly potential next President? Maybe, because Trump Derangement Syndrome is very common right now. Many say they are voting more AGAINST President Trump than FOR anyone in particular. I think the Biden team has already waited too long to pick a candidate. If Keisha can turn Georgia Blue that is ONE good reason to choose her. She has been a mayor of Atlanta for only three years, with no apparent achievements and some minor scandals. Definitely not someone I would endorse for President. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_recognition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keisha_Lance_Bottoms

https://www.usnews.com/news/cities/articles/2019-07-25/could-the-us-ever-elect-a-mayor-for-president#:~:text=Yet American mayors mostly have not. No mayor,in 1923%2C after Warren Harding died in office.

She has gained a lot of name rec in the black community, particularity with speeches over the last few months.

I'm not sure she'd be enough to put Georgia into play (VP picks rarely do this anyways), but all she might have to do is prevent the abysmal dropoff in turnout of the black vote as happened in 2016 relative to 2008 or 2012. It was enough to push Trump over the edge in some upper midwest states.

Midterms are always referendums on the sitting president. Trump's numbers have dropped quite a bit among independents, and these are the people who will likely matter anyways. Democrats will largely hate Trump and Republicans will largely support him, just like the partisan split that existed with Obama.  Both COVID and the Floyd protests were opportunities for Trump to gain political capital (as tends to happen during moments of national crises), but he successfully blew those opportunities so far. Biden didn't have to do much except watch Trump shoot his own foot.

I'll give Trump a lot of credit for his savvyness in 2016 both against the Republican primary field and against Hillary, but it's not like he's shown consistent political acumen since. Right now, he looks like a weak candidate that could cause a lot of colateral damage to downstream Republicans in the house/senate and local races (and a wave election in 2020 would be the last thing that Republicans would want because of congressional redistricting), a lot of time left tho. After 2016, I could never count Trump out.

 

Edited July 9, 2020 by surrept33

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4 hours ago, ronwagn said:

Will the average Democrat vote in a "no name" as the highly potential next President? Maybe, because Trump Derangement Syndrome is very common right now. Many say they are voting more AGAINST President Trump than FOR anyone in particular.

Is that not the same as all the people that voted against Hillary?

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

Do not pay attention to Biden. The Democrats don’t give a damn about him as they do not expect him to finish the term, he either dies of natural causes or relinquishes the office due to medical reasons.

Be VERY afraid of who the Democrats select as his running mate!

The only way the US survives, after all the recent, manufactured unrest, is if Trump is re-elected.

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2 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

The only way the US survives, after all the recent, manufactured unrest, is if Trump is re-elected.

The only way to fix their problems is to keep the leadership that caused all the problems?  #trumpLogic

Hating trump is not "manufactured" by the democrats; trump does that all by himself being the giant bag a fail he is.

The majority of Americans are, thankfully, not a stupid as the red hats. https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx

Trump 2020 "Hate your neighbours - they are the problem."

 

Edited July 9, 2020 by Enthalpic

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9 hours ago, ronwagn said:

The problem there is name recognition. Will the average Democrat vote in a "no name" as the highly potential next President? Maybe, because Trump Derangement Syndrome is very common right now. Many say they are voting more AGAINST President Trump than FOR anyone in particular. I think the Biden team has already waited too long to pick a candidate. If Keisha can turn Georgia Blue that is ONE good reason to choose her. She has been a mayor of Atlanta for only three years, with no apparent achievements and some minor scandals. Definitely not someone I would endorse for President.

You are too bright to use the silly TDS garbage crap Tom spread.  Don't end up like him alternating between starving yourself and eating raw ground beef... it's not good for the brain.

Disliking trump is highly logical - look around and see the state of affairs, it is shit.  The democrats are not in power, trump is, the leadership has to take the blame.

 

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3 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

You are too bright to use the silly TDS garbage crap Tom spread.  Don't end up like him alternating between starving yourself and eating raw ground beef... it's not good for the brain.

Disliking trump is highly logical - look around and see the state of affairs, it is shit.  The democrats are not in power, trump is, the leadership has to take the blame.

 

I obviously ticked you off by using the term TDS. I will try to balance it by using BDS for Biden Derangement Syndrome equally. 

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8 hours ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said:

Is that not the same as all the people that voted against Hillary?

Not in my opinion. I supported all of Trumps goals and am delighted with the results he could get with the opposition and undermining from within. I did know that any Democrat would be advancing us towards socialism and statism and would disregard the Constitution whenever they could. 

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4 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

eating raw ground beef... it's not good for the brain.

This has got to be a joke? Tom was eating raw hamburger?

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6 hours ago, Strangelovesurfing said:

This has got to be a joke? Tom was eating raw hamburger?

It is common on the streets of Amsterdam. They serve it like a meatball. I passed. I like my meat charred on the outside and maybe slightly pink on the inside. Not for ground beef though. 

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1 hour ago, ronwagn said:

It is common on the streets of Amsterdam. They serve it like a meatball. I passed. I like my meat charred on the outside and maybe slightly pink on the inside. Not for ground beef though. 

No way for ground beef. Do people check the packaging? Usually it's a combination of meat from around the world, doesn't seem very safe to me.

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On 7/9/2020 at 11:05 AM, Hotone said:

According to Mike Moore, Trump will be last POTUS

 

Ah, yes.  The Great Sage!

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19 hours ago, Strangelovesurfing said:

No way for ground beef. Do people check the packaging? Usually it's a combination of meat from around the world, doesn't seem very safe to me.

I have had steak tartare (both beef and pork) several times with some Germans I know; it is rather bland other than the onions and capers.

Not something I would make or buy, but when served I will eat it.  No egg for me though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare

 

Much higher quality meat than regular ground beef.

Edited July 10, 2020 by Enthalpic

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Trump Cultists: "TDS!"

Anti-Trump Conservatives:
 

(b/c Trump cultists love them a muculent douche wrapped in an Italian suit.) 

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On 7/6/2020 at 2:23 PM, BLA said:

EXECUTIVE ORDER #1

(1) Due to Coronavirus Apocalypse the Presidential election will be rescheduled until November 2021.

EXECUTIVE ORDER # 2

(2) All Presidential Candidates shall successfully complete the Montreal Cognitive Test before their name is placed on the ballot.

Sources say Nancy Pelosi has instructed Congressmen  Schiff to commence a second impeachment.

I knew he would try this.

DNC MUST replace Biden now while we can. 

Shows you don't even know the US constitution. It's twentieth amendment clearly states that Trump's current term ends on 20th of January 2021, at noon, and the term of his elected successor begins. Period. He can reschedule whatever he wants, but when the clock strikes noon on 20th of January, he stops being a president and starts being a squatter at the White House - unless he is elected again.