The Incredible Shrinking Republican Party

[ronwagn + 6,290]

So, this will encourage more states to follow Oklahoma because 90% of the bill is being paid by the rest of Americans in all states. Just another Demoncrat Scam by Obama and company! 

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1 hour ago, ronwagn said:

So, this will encourage more states to follow Oklahoma because 90% of the bill is being paid by the rest of Americans in all states. Just another Demoncrat Scam by Obama and company! 

Trump won Oklahoma by 36 points in 2016. Then Oklahoma voted for Obamacare in 2020, just a few months before the next presidential election. Donald will probably win OK electoral college votes again in 2020 but it's a good sign of how soft Donald is in red states. 

[Jan van Eck + 7,558]

On 7/22/2020 at 8:01 PM, ronwagn said:

Newsom wants non citizens to be able to run for Governor. 

Excellent idea.  I would make a great Governor.  I would abolish CARB, the ridiculous "high-speed rail" project, at how many billions and counting, I would abolish town zoning ordinances, I would make all beaches public parks, and I would require immediate construction of plastics-to-gasoline plants around the State.    That is just for starters.   Then I would fire at least half the bureaucrats.  And that is also just for starters.   You have a better Governor candidate in mind?

[Jan van Eck + 7,558]

4 hours ago, BradleyPNW said:

Trump won Oklahoma by 36 points in 2016. Then Oklahoma voted for Obamacare in 2020, just a few months before the next presidential election. Donald will probably win OK electoral college votes again in 2020 but it's a good sign of how soft Donald is in red states. 

Trump will lose Oklahoma. 

[KeyboardWarrior + 527]

9 hours ago, BradleyPNW said:

What are my arguments about immigration? 

Did you forget where this started? 

Do you want me to run and grab your quotes regarding illegal immigrants? You made your position clear, but then awkwardly switched  subjects when I challenged your statements on the crime stats. 

Edit: concise 

Edited July 25, 2020 by KeyboardWarrior

[Jan van Eck + 7,558]

On 7/23/2020 at 3:22 PM, BradleyPNW said:

Illegals pump $ billions into Social Security and Medicare. SS/M are pay as you go. American olds who paid into SS/M for years were not paying into a savings account. Trump is screwing over Americans who collect Social Security and Medicare because he is driven by racism rather than helping American olds with real dollars. Donald is such a prick that he can't see beyond his racism to let illegals help themselves and their families in less wealthy countries while also helping less wealthy American olds.

Unfortunately, this analysis is painfully true.  The migrants do pay quite a bit, measured in billions, into the Federal safety-net programs and receive nothing in return.

It is actually worse than that.  When the aircraft hit the World Trade Center and knocked the buildings down, it also demolished the top-floor restaurant(s) and killed dozens of migrant kitchen and serving staff.  But because those people were largely undocumented, and nobody even knew who they were, the promise of the Administrator of the Federal Compensation Fund, Mr. Goldberg, that no family would receive less than one million from the Fund, rings hollow.  The Mexicans and Guatemalans working there, their families received zero.

On 7/23/2020 at 3:22 PM, BradleyPNW said:

Why is the Republican Party shrinking? Because Donald's Party is all about incompetence and self-destruction. 

Unfortunately, so is Biden's Party.  Incompetence and self-destruction are the current vogue trends. 

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@BradleyPNW Yea, this shit. 

On 7/18/2020 at 1:41 PM, BradleyPNW said:

Racists are ok with border prison camps despite the fact illegals are paying for their Social Security and Medicare bills. Social Security *nets* around $13 billion/year from illegals and Medicare gets $3 billion. 

 

On 7/18/2020 at 10:48 PM, BradleyPNW said:

1) The illegals aren't complaining, they're paying. 
2) Old white dudes are the guys who complain. 
3) Same old white dudes have no clue the illegals are paying for their Social Security and Medicare. 

 

[Jan van Eck + 7,558]

On 7/23/2020 at 4:59 PM, BradleyPNW said:

Ex-Republicans are motivated to destroy the GOP brand because 1) they want revenge for getting kicked out, and 2) they want to fill the power vacuum with their own brand. That process will take a few election cycles and result in a new portfolio of alliances. The ultimate result will be a two party system (Democrats plus a new party) where both parties are nearly indistinguishable. Then instead of complaining about political polarization people will complain that both parties are the same.

It is equally likely that the same development will arrive inside the Democratic Party, which right now is riven with discord and largely taken over by the Clintonites and their remnants.  Lots of Democrat voters are disenchanted with the Clintonistas and disgusted with the Clintons themselves.  Although Bill Clinton seems to have developed a new image for himself as some "world statesman" and shows up in Switzerland at that World Economic Forum at Davos, where he clinks wine glasses with the upper crust, the legacy of his rudderless and unprincipled leadership remains, torturing American society and its place in the world.  As for Mrs. Clinton: well, everyone other than the Clintonistas have had quite enough.  But, the Democrats cannot help themselves, they will continue to run on the Clintonista banner - until others get sufficiently disgusted that they, too, develop that new "portfolio of alliances."  

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I don't understand. Of course Trump is not the guilty. The guilty are ALWAYS THE OTHER ONES. Make America Great Again!!!   Kill with a drone Aleksander Putin, Mohammad bin Salman, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong-un Nicolas Maduro, and Hassan Rouhani.   

[JoMack + 549]

In 3 months or so the people will decide, unless we have mail in votes, God forbid. Statistics are like the price of oil and gas.  In 99% of the cases where polls, predictions, expert decisions are made, they are dead wrong.

[Eyes Wide Open + 3,554]

1 hour ago, JoMack said:

In 3 months or so the people will decide, unless we have mail in votes, God forbid. Statistics are like the price of oil and gas.  In 99% of the cases where polls, predictions, expert decisions are made, they are dead wrong.

One can only hope, if Biden were to be elected the anarchy would truly begin.

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On 7/19/2020 at 5:19 AM, Douglas Buckland said:

Well, if they don’t want to pay into a system they cannot benefit from....DON’T COME HERE ILLEGALLY!

Again, the ‘liberal victim mentality’ scenario.

"if they don`t pay"!  I think, thats the problem, the usa are no longer a democracy, they are a clear plutokratie. One man one vote , long away. You can buy everything, but only big money can afford. Its the old european way of aristokratie, only with money now. In germany it is called a "Ständestaat", no social mobility anymore. Its very sad, because some year ago the usa have sent democracy to many other states, but lost in usa itself.

[ronwagn + 6,290]

14 hours ago, Jan van Eck said:

Excellent idea.  I would make a great Governor.  I would abolish CARB, the ridiculous "high-speed rail" project, at how many billions and counting, I would abolish town zoning ordinances, I would make all beaches public parks, and I would require immediate construction of plastics-to-gasoline plants around the State.    That is just for starters.   Then I would fire at least half the bureaucrats.  And that is also just for starters.   You have a better Governor candidate in mind?

I would vote for you Jan, if I didn't have a better Republican option. The problem is other candidates like Ocasio Cortez and people with all sorts of socialist, communist, and alliances with China etc. Another problem is you couldn't do anything without the legislature backing your ideas. 

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

6 hours ago, JoMack said:

In 3 months or so the people will decide, unless we have mail in votes, God forbid. Statistics are like the price of oil and gas.  In 99% of the cases where polls, predictions, expert decisions are made, they are dead wrong.

You are correct in that polls are simply a work of statistics, and statistics about what's going on politically in every house, let alone with every voting age occupant of any given house, are easily skewed and/or misrepresented.

Not to mention, the size of "polls", where they are conducted, income in the area, wording of questions or the order in which questions were asked.  I don't believe, in today's society with the levels of information (factual or not is also a question) available and consumed by the average citizen, that polls are even worth doing anymore. 

Link:  National Council of Public Polls

I mean the old metrics used to be pretty cut and dried:  White collar or blue collar area?  All voters were men.  Most voters were white men.  Information consumed by those men was largely from the local TV station and the local TV station would reflect heavily on the predominant local political party (Republican or Democrat).

As has been pointed out in an earlier comment, most conservative and/or Republican voting citizens today will usually not participate in polls of any kind for fear of putting themselves or their family at risk of being targeted by some groupd or other, verbal or physical attack up to being beaten or killed, or ONLY losing their livelihood.

Even with all of the above in mind, the left continues to tout them (polls) as gospel.  Give me a break.

Edited July 25, 2020 by Dan Warnick

[BradleyPNW + 282]

On 7/24/2020 at 8:17 PM, Jan van Eck said:

It is equally likely that the same development will arrive inside the Democratic Party, which right now is riven with discord and largely taken over by the Clintonites and their remnants.  Lots of Democrat voters are disenchanted with the Clintonistas and disgusted with the Clintons themselves.  Although Bill Clinton seems to have developed a new image for himself as some "world statesman" and shows up in Switzerland at that World Economic Forum at Davos, where he clinks wine glasses with the upper crust, the legacy of his rudderless and unprincipled leadership remains, torturing American society and its place in the world.  As for Mrs. Clinton: well, everyone other than the Clintonistas have had quite enough.  But, the Democrats cannot help themselves, they will continue to run on the Clintonista banner - until others get sufficiently disgusted that they, too, develop that new "portfolio of alliances."  

Barack Obama is the most popular ex-president in the Democratic Party. Democrats just chose Obama's VP to be their 2020 candidate. They're happy with Joe.

But I love Hillary Clinton. She has at least 30 IQ points on Donald. Note: *at least*, I'm being conservative. She was a great Secretary of State. Encouraged Europe to frack their NG resources to improve their energy security and reduce Russian influence. Benghazi? Ha, Donald Trump's incompetence with COVID is the real Benghazi, many times over. 

And of course, Donald is supporting the chick who groomed his victims for him. Yet, I've heard Democrats say if Bill Clinton is involved in those crimes they hope he burns and rots in hell. Of all the examples of why Democrats are better than today's Republicans that's a huge reason to vote Dem in 2020. Most Americans agree, which is why Joe is doing so well in the national and swing state polls. 
 

 

[BradleyPNW + 282]

On 7/24/2020 at 8:09 PM, KeyboardWarrior said:

 

@BradleyPNW Yea, this shit. 

You pulled my quotes in which I argued against immigration policy guided by racism. Good job. I do wonder why you characterize immigration policy guided by reason rather than racism as shit.  

[Eyes Wide Open + 3,554]

32 minutes ago, BradleyPNW said:

Barack Obama is the most popular ex-president in the Democratic Party. Democrats just chose Obama's VP to be their 2020 candidate. They're happy with Joe.

But I love Hillary Clinton. She has at least 30 IQ points on Donald. Note: *at least*, I'm being conservative. She was a great Secretary of State. Encouraged Europe to frack their NG resources to improve their energy security and reduce Russian influence. Benghazi? Ha, Donald Trump's incompetence with COVID is the real Benghazi, many times over. 

And of course, Donald is supporting the chick who groomed his victims for him. Yet, I've heard Democrats say if Bill Clinton is involved in those crimes they hope he burns and rots in hell. Of all the examples of why Democrats are better than today's Republicans that's a huge reason to vote Dem in 2020. Most Americans agree, which is why Joe is doing so well in the national and swing state polls. 
 

 

 

[BradleyPNW + 282]

20 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

As has been pointed out in an earlier comment, most conservative and/or Republican voting citizens today will usually not participate in polls of any kind for fear of putting themselves or their family at risk of being targeted by some groupd or other, verbal or physical attack up to being beaten or killed, or ONLY losing their livelihood.

Even with all of the above in mind, the left continues to tout them (polls) as gospel.  Give me a break.

When the polls aren't in favor of Democrats they blame their candidates. When the polls aren't in favor of Donald his cult blames the polls.

That's just garden variety crazy. Next level crazy was when Donald won the electoral college yet made a huge deal of blaming illegals for causing him to lose the popular vote. 

[BradleyPNW + 282]

3 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

 

Did Bill wish Epstein well when he got busted? Did Obama wish Weinstein well when he got busted? 

Donald Trump: "I just wish her well" 

We know why Donald wished her well. She helped him rape underage girls. Donald's cult refuses to believe what is right in front of their eyes. 
 

 

[BradleyPNW + 282]

Obama on Weinstein: "Michelle and I have been disgusted by the recent reports of Harvey Weinstein. Any man who demeans and degrades women in such fashion needs to be condemned and held accountable, regardless of wealth or status. We should celebrate the courage of women who have come forward to tell these painful stories. And we all need to build a culture, including by empowering our girls and teaching our boys decency and respect, so we can make such behavior less prevalent in the future."

https://deadline.com/2017/10/obama-harvey-weinstein-statement-sexual-harassement-assault-1202185921/


Donald Trump on Maxwell: "I wish her well." 

Donald always supports his co-conspirators as long as they don't rat him out. 
 

[KeyboardWarrior + 527]

2 hours ago, BradleyPNW said:

You pulled my quotes in which I argued against immigration policy guided by racism. Good job. I do wonder why you characterize immigration policy guided by reason rather than racism as shit.  

There you go again. Back at it saying that the immigration policy we support is guided by racism. Right after we made it clear on the fact that we’re concerned about drugs and crime. 

What you really mean to say is “it’s racist to want tight border control regardless of your opinion on naturalized citizenship”. 

[BradleyPNW + 282]

8 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said:

There you go again. Back at it saying that the immigration policy we support is guided by racism. Right after we made it clear on the fact that we’re concerned about drugs and crime. 

What you really mean to say is “it’s racist to want tight border control regardless of your opinion on naturalized citizenship”. 

In other words, you're scared to death of brown people. Just like Donald. Build the wall. Hide in the bunker. But call it an "inspection." 

[KeyboardWarrior + 527]

3 minutes ago, BradleyPNW said:

In other words, you're scared to death of brown people. Just like Donald. Build the wall. Hide in the bunker. But call it an "inspection." 

No, one thousand times no. Create a better system for naturalization and keep the borders tight. 

By the way, I think it’s time that you demonstrated exactly how we’re racist or “scared of brown people” as opposed to “fewer drugs and crime”. 

Go on. 

[Eyes Wide Open + 3,554]

56 minutes ago, BradleyPNW said:

In other words, you're scared to death of brown people. Just like Donald. Build the wall. Hide in the bunker. But call it an "inspection." 

 

Well there is health care that 20 million people from other country's receive for free in this country..Now just how many countries in this grand old world support as many people...they do not.

Before you lead with your chin take the time to understand Hippaa laws...medicaid and how these people abuse the US system..

https://privacyrights.org/consumer-guides/health-privacy-hipaa-basics

https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Legal-and-Illegal-Immigrant-Households

https://www.kff.org/disparities-policy/issue-brief/health-coverage-and-care-of-undocumented-immigrants/

 

 

https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-enforcement/healthcare-provider-and-patients-rights-imm-enf/#:~:text=Health%20care%20providers%20have%20no,about%20a%20patient's%20immigration%20status.

Edited July 26, 2020 by Eyes Wide Open

[Eyes Wide Open + 3,554]

8 hours ago, BradleyPNW said:

Obama on Weinstein: "Michelle and I have been disgusted by the recent reports of Harvey Weinstein. Any man who demeans and degrades women in such fashion needs to be condemned and held accountable, regardless of wealth or status. We should celebrate the courage of women who have come forward to tell these painful stories. And we all need to build a culture, including by empowering our girls and teaching our boys decency and respect, so we can make such behavior less prevalent in the future."

https://deadline.com/2017/10/obama-harvey-weinstein-statement-sexual-harassement-assault-1202185921/


Donald Trump on Maxwell: "I wish her well." 

Donald always supports his co-conspirators as long as they don't rat him out. 
 

Just socialiting it is part of the game..Now there are times it goes beyond..well you decide..personal portrait..