Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN September 6, 2020 Deceptions Revealed about the “Nord Stream 2 Pipeline” and Germany The following article by James Corbett of The Corbett Report lays bare some of the real facts underneath the recent headline: "Germany pressed to rethink Nord Stream 2 pipeline after Navalny poisoning" September 5, 2020 by James Corbett How To Read The News https://hive.blog/news/@corbettreport/how-to-read-the-news https://www.corbettreport.com/how-to-read-the-news/ (James Corbett does not copyright his work. Anything may be used in other publications and formats.) 2 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hotone + 412 September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Tom Nolan said: Deceptions Revealed about the “Nord Stream 2 Pipeline” and Germany The following article by James Corbett of The Corbett Report lays bare some of the real facts underneath the recent headline: "Germany pressed to rethink Nord Stream 2 pipeline after Navalny poisoning" September 5, 2020 by James Corbett How To Read The News https://hive.blog/news/@corbettreport/how-to-read-the-news https://www.corbettreport.com/how-to-read-the-news/ (James Corbett does not copyright his work. Anything may be used in other publications and formats.) Just as I suspected. Well done. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strangelovesurfing + 737 JD September 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Hotone said: Just as I suspected. Well done. You might be on to something. My mental cost/benefit calculation Isn’t quite with you though. If the US got caught doing something like this the negative ramifications would far outweigh the gain from canceling a pipeline IMHO. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 September 6, 2020 (edited) I would not suspect the CIA and any strange theories. The simplest explanation for me is a coup by that part of the Russian elite who are against an accord with the West and for a total bet on the future hegemon of China. You see, the problem with these "experts" stems from the fact that they do not say what it really is, but they try to say what will be supported by political leaders and will look nice for the mainstream media, otherwise they will cut the subsidy or they will not show it on TV. Years ago, in one of the local polish internet forum, when there was a coup in Ukraine, I asked the question: what about Russia? Everyone had the obvious positive sentiment , because Ukraine was torn out and all this democratic hysteria. No one, even locally, wanted to hear about the fact that Crimea is dominated by Russians and has military significance for them, that the east of Ukraine speaks Russian and the changes to the language law act are a gift for Russia. It did not matter to anyone. Everyone was celebrating. And then "unexpectedly" came the detachment / annexation of Crimea. And then Donbas. Unusually ? Surprisingly?Maybe for them and fpr the people who use the TV instead of their own brain. They were surprised that Russia saw what was happening in Ukraine as a threat to its national security (and its imperial policy). Who would have thought? A bear who was prodded with a stick approached Tbilisi and "surprised" them XD Since the so-called "experts" create scenarios tailored to politicians and the media, and their WISHING THINKING about reality, then reality plays tricks on these people. Painful pranks. Reality cannot and must not be ignored. You probably haven't read the book by Schweitzer and Weinberger "The Next World War". Scenarios so far not fulfilled, some even outdated - but (at the latest) during the Obama government, the US government departed from the silly doctrine developed by these analysts without developing any other. Trump also does not exist, because "the end of history", "liberal democracy triumphed" and all that crap. And then when Russia, pursuing its national interest, enters the Crimea and mixes up in Ukraine, these swamps do what? [suprised pikachu meme]. Me, because I read before 2010, as a student on the first day in Smolensk, I also expected Russians. Good that they did not enter - they had a perfect opportunity but then they were clearly too weak or afraid of NATO. Or maybe they did not want to enter? Who knows ... Was the army on standby then? Maybe it's better that we don't know ... What we should know, however, and what should hair on our heads - today they do not arrange such scenarios. The West, like Poland, has opted for ad hoc policy. It will end badly ... Perhaps it is also better for you that most intellectuals like you do not pay attention to the fact that, for example, the US nuclear arsenal is about to be modernized or is still in the process of modernization. The actual condition of our army. What is the actual action with "refugees", or subsequent attempts to unleash a war with Iran, and what the consequences may be. According to the Chinese curse, we live in interesting times ... And may they not become even more interesting ... And now, after a long deliberation on the merits, about the alliance between Russia and China: 1. In terms of state - it is not an equal alliance, because China is a country that is developing and Russia is a country that is collapsing - but it is also a dangerous "marriage of convenience", because the "rolling" Russian technology and Russian weapons are still much better than what the Chinese have. Working out a symbiosis between Russia and China today is more beneficial for Russia than the conflict over Siberia, which will be a loser tomorrow, and for China - it is the security of resources and it is kicking forward today. Russia has raw materials and a lot of technology that the Chinese have not mastered. The Chinese have people and money. This deal is truly a natural business step, just as at the beginning of the 20th century, the threat of the Russo-German alliance was natural and terrifying for the then Western countries. 2. As I wrote above: the Russian authorities are faced with a choice against the Chinese colonization of Siberia - the future war and the loss of part of the country or deeper cooperation with China for a long time. With the hostile attitude of the democratic camp which describes Russia as a "mafia gas station", however, choice - war means for the rulers of these countries that the corpses of their countries will be fed afterwards by "Western democracy" and they will inevitably die or lose, becoming "mere mortals" like us, even if they "won" - be it Xi or Putin, they both will end up then, too, so war is meaningless. 3. If you are surprised, that it is more like playing for a short-term perspective, I would like to remind you that politicians elected - even elected in an authoritarian country like Russia and on such "undemocratic principles" as there are rarely play long-term. Putin is already 68 years old. Not that he would live the life expectancy of an average Russian (which is about 70 years), but please take that into account. Putin's play is also not surprising considering the former policy of Alexander Lukashenka and the creation of the UBiR, which, moreover, did not work out so much. 4. The European Union does not know - here you can see superstitions related to the intellectual milieu, contemptuously called "lemmings". The European Union is NOT one state, contrary to what you are, and many others have been instilled in it (and it better not be) and conflicting interests clash in it. The main role is played by the GERMAN interest. But not only. The interest of the German (or at least the interest of the "Christian Democrat" -left "elites" currently ruling there), as opposed to the interests of Eastern European countries, is roughly in making a deal with Putin in the belief that Putin and the Russian ruler will keep common sense and how it is the mafioso who will prefer to do business - at least at the expense of eastern countries like Poland. But in Russia there is also a faction of "servicemen" siloviks like Sergei Shoygu, would prefer to enter Ukraine and perhaps to bring back the "good old Soviet times" - their approach is wishful thinking. And between these political factions in Russia there is also a game that we mortals who write on the Internet do not know. And what is actually happening in the Kremlin or in the Chinese party apparatus is extremely interesting and is of HUGE importance for us in Poland. Unfortunately, I am afraid that thanks to our attachment to these projections and wishful thinking in Poland, the USA and Western countries, the appropriate interviews will also not be they know the subject quite well and we will wake up soon as a country (and the west with us) with a hand deep in the potty and smeared in brown. Edited September 6, 2020 by Tomasz 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 November 30, 2020 (edited) The Nord Stream II company officially announced the resumption of works on the laying of Nord Stream II on December 5, 2020, because probably with the big help of German technical thought, the Akademik Cherskiy currently meets all the technical requirements of the Danish side and is able to complete the construction of the gas pipeline slowly but surely. The unaware I would like to inform that this is probably partly due to the fact that, for example, in Poland, malicious people call the Baltic Sea the Baltic pond - the sea is not really deep in the deepest place, it is probably 200 m deep and the work is to take place closer to the shore. It is also not a sea where storms or any other weather events are like those in the Pacific Ocean. We will see now how the Americans react to it, but given that the US is politically quite messy after the last elections and there is coming transition of power in White House from strategic point of view the moment may be right to finish the pipeline. Quote The US has admitted its inability to stop the construction of Nord stream 2 through sanctions. This was reported by Bloomberg with reference to a senior researcher at the Oxford Institute for energy research Katja Yafimava (Katja Yafimava). According to her, at the moment the gas pipeline project is facing three serious problems: the need to find a pipe-laying company to complete construction, get insurance and get a certificate that the project is safe and meets EU standards. "In General, Nord stream 2 can still be completed by the summer of 2021 and get all the necessary certificates for gas supplies next winter," Yafimava said. In her opinion, the US "must understand that they cannot stop the project." Tougher sanctions pressure on Nord stream 2 and project participants may increase the completion time, but Gazprom will still find a way to overcome each of the three main obstacles. Gas-pipe What is the threat of delay in the European continuation of Nord stream 2" The main stumbling block, according to Yafimava, is the search for a pipelayer to complete the work. She recalled that at the end of last year, Washington imposed sanctions on companies that provide such vessels for the project, as a result of which the European company Allseas withdrew from it. Russia has its own vessel for the completion of the Akademik Chersky gas pipeline, which this week left the port of Mukran (the logistics base for the Nord stream 2 project) and sailed to Kaliningrad, according to data from the Marine Traffic service. The Agency does not rule out that the ship is going to wait in Russian waters for spring and more favorable weather to start construction work. Deputy Director General of the Institute of national energy Alexander Frolov on Sputnik radio earlier suggested that the ship came to Kaliningrad to install the necessary equipment to get out of the sanctions against German partners. The second major problem with the pipeline is US restrictions against companies that provide insurance. For example, the Swiss company Zurich Insurance Group may now be under attack, sources say. Gas pipeline certification is the number three issue for the Nord stream project. Earlier, the Norwegian certification company Det Norske Veritas-Germanischer Lloyd (DNV GL) has already refused to cooperate with Nord stream 2 under the threat of us sanctions. The Danish energy Agency said that the pipeline operator, Nord Stream 2, can hire any other certifier, which makes it possible for a Russian company to participate in this role. Yafimava believes that such a scenario is possible, but its implementation will take time. The section of the Nord stream main gas pipeline in the German city of Lubmin, Nord stream 2, received" last greetings " from trump Bloomberg notes that the authorities of Germany and European countries are on the side of Russia in the issue of completing the construction of the gas pipeline. The German government is coordinating joint actions with other European countries in response to us sanctions against Nord stream 2. In addition, German lawmakers have joined German Industrialists in criticizing the US for interfering in Europe's sovereign energy policy. The Agency also notes that, despite US sanctions, so far none of Gazprom's five European partners in Nord stream 2 (OMV, Royal Dutch Shell, Uniper, Engie and Wintershall) have withdrawn from the project. Quote Edited November 30, 2020 by Tomasz 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 January 5, 2021 (edited) what is happening around NS2 is not against Russia, but only against Europe, primarily against Germany. Russia has been preparing for a long time to change the direction of its exports of raw materials without any major difficulties. Contrary to popular opinion, it is not Russia that is most interested in building new pipelines connecting its oil and gas deposits with Europe, but only the latter . If not for this, there would be no need to impose any sanctions on the Americans against those European companies that participate in the construction of NS2. The German government after Navalny poisoning would simply not have given futher building permit, and that would be the end of it. It is worth noting that sanctions are introduced not against the main shareholders of this project, but only against companies that are hired by the NS 2 consortium to perform some works. Probably even the US government is too short for companies such as E.ON Shell, BASF, OMV. Engie and others. So the Americans have only one thing left - to disturb them as much as they can, but at the same time they realize that the project will be sooner or later implemented anyway. And I am sure that if the new pipe were absolutely needed today, the NS 2 would be finished and before the gas would be pumped. Edited January 5, 2021 by Tomasz 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dukeNukem + 80 YT January 6, 2021 (edited) On 1/6/2021 at 4:41 AM, Tomasz said: what is happening around NS2 is not against Russia, but only against Europe, primarily against Germany. Russia has been preparing for a long time to change the direction of its exports of raw materials without any major difficulties. Contrary to popular opinion, it is not Russia that is most interested in building new pipelines connecting its oil and gas deposits with Europe, but only the latter . If not for this, there would be no need to impose any sanctions on the Americans against those European companies that participate in the construction of NS2. The German government after Navalny poisoning would simply not have given futher building permit, and that would be the end of it. It is worth noting that sanctions are introduced not against the main shareholders of this project, but only against companies that are hired by the NS 2 consortium to perform some works. Probably even the US government is too short for companies such as E.ON Shell, BASF, OMV. Engie and others. So the Americans have only one thing left - to disturb them as much as they can, but at the same time they realize that the project will be sooner or later implemented anyway. And I am sure that if the new pipe were absolutely needed today, the NS 2 would be finished and before the gas would be pumped. Thanks Tomasz, for me it seems realistic view of this matter. Moreoever, "If NS2 completed, Europe will depends more on Russian gas" is just a cock and bull story for people who heard about it superficially in media. Reality is - Europe depends on Russian gas anyway (In turn, Russia depends on this revenue). But if NS2 will not be completed, it means the same volumes of gas will go through Ukrainian pipe. . However, it costs more money....So Russia will pay more for transportation, and final buyer in Europe (Germany, Chezh, Austria e.t.c) will pay more. So main points of this NS2 saga is to support Ukraine with transit fees and lift energy prices in Europe (to raise cost of European goods, as a part of US-Europe trade war), and of course higher energy prices are good for US LNG (so much money invested into US LNG infrastructure, need to support local producers). Thats it....nothing about "support democracy and European partners security" Edited January 6, 2021 by dukeNukem added 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Tomasz + 1,608 January 24, 2021 (edited) Quote MOSCOW, 23 Jan - PRIME. Several European companies have already withdrawn from the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project this year, and the start of construction on the Danish section has been temporarily postponed. Has the United States, together with Ukraine and Poland, achieved their goals and have sanctions against the gas pipeline begun to work? We don't think so. Moreover, even the developers of the sanctions do not think so, otherwise they would not be included in the defense budget every year - after all, the construction of Nord Stream 2 has slowed down due to restrictive measures, but still continues. In our opinion, the events around the project can develop according to three possible scenarios, the occurrence of each of which will have an impact on the quotes of Gazprom shares. We note right away that we exclude a scenario of the development of events in which the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline will be completely stopped, and in order for it to really stop, something terrible needs to happen, that is, much more serious than sanctions. for example, a new, more dangerous, pandemic of a virus, or a severe natural disaster, or even a war in Europe (nothing can be ruled out on our fragile planet). Aside from apocalyptic hypotheses, the most negative scenario for Nord Stream 2, in our opinion, is that, although the pipeline will be built, possibly already this year, gas pumping through it will be postponed, perhaps even for years. We believe that such a scenario can work if the administration of the newly elected US President Joe Biden offers some economic or political benefits to the new German government, which will be formed after the elections. If this happens, then later, during the possible downtime of Nord Stream 2, Russia will have to maintain gas transit through Ukraine, but the transit contract between Russia and Ukraine is valid until 2025, so even in such an unfavorable case, Russia will not have, at least , serious problems with gas supplies to Europe. A moderate scenario may be that the commissioning of the gas pipeline due to sanctions, on the one hand, and the attempts of the Biden administration to bribe or gently put pressure on the authorities of the countries whose enterprises participate in Nord Stream 2, on the other hand, will happen only at the end 2022 or even 2023, and at the same time some alternative gas suppliers will be admitted to the gas pipeline. But even if events develop in this way, it is possible that German companies, partners of Gazprom in the project for the construction of Nord Stream 2, will begin to buy part of the gas from Russia and then resell it to end consumers in Europe. Hypothetically, we do not exclude the possibility that the Polish state oil and gas company PGNiG may also be allowed to use the Nord Stream 2 pipe in order to take into account the interests of Poland. which will lose revenues from the termination of the transit of Russian gas through its territory, but this is unlikely. If such a scenario turns out to be possible, then we do not rule out that Gazprom shares will move towards our target price of 280 rubles. per paper, but achieving this goal will be possible only closer to 2023. And the positive scenario, from our point of view, is that the new German authorities will maintain, as now, a firm position on the need to complete the construction of Nord Stream 2 and put it into operation as soon as possible. Then, if this scenario is realized, the gas pipeline will be put into operation in the fall or closer to the end of 2021, and all attempts by the United States to push through not with a carcass, but with a scarecrow, their interests in the European gas market will end in vain. At the same time, it is likely that the transit of Russian gas through Ukraine may continue even after 2025, and after the start of operation of Nord Stream 2 in order to normalize political relations between Russia and Ukraine. We consider such a scenario as the most likely, and if it comes, we expect by the beginning of 2022 or, perhaps, Natalia Milchakova - Deputy Head of IAC "Alpari" - this is an opinion for investors on the Russian market on Gazprom by one of the largest Russian investor advisory companies IAC Alpari https://1prime.ru/energy/20210123/832874074.html Edited January 24, 2021 by Tomasz 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites