Nord Stream 2 Halt Possible Over Navalny Poisoning

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/germany-russia-pipeline-project-navalny-poisoning

How many Red Lines can the Reds cross before the E.U. acts?

Germany suggests halt to Russia pipeline project, seeks cooperation with Navalny poisoning investigation

Prime Minister Angela Merkel has previously dismissed the idea of linking the pipeline to an investigation

 

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That is what I hate about politicians, talk and investigation to show their moral values, which are for public image or for latter elections. Besides that, even they don't believe that would change anything because they are locked with the economical gain prospect. At the end of the day the public image when act or not to act are not that much different. If they take harsher steps then their political opponents will say "there would be a better solution". 

Edited September 7, 2020 by SUZNV

[Zhong Lu + 845]

Well, it's not as if the US administration is leading the charge against Russia.  

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Possible, but not likely. It's just another batch of wishful thinking from the US. Russia has excess gas, German industry needs to be supplied with energy and other resources. US fields are too far away, which make supplies non-competitive. 

Hence, the puzzle has just one solution - Russia will supply Germany. It has been already supplying most of the Europe for decades with both oil and gas. 

These blind rounds shot over the media are just a part of carefully balanced protocol - Merkel is letting the Russians know that poisoning journalists in broad daylight is bad for business and has to stop. It's part of the negotiations that never stopped and won't stop any time soon, especially after Crazy Donald over the sea stabbed Germans in the back with the Iran treaty. 

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12 hours ago, ronwagn said:

https://www.foxnews.com/world/germany-russia-pipeline-project-navalny-poisoning

How many Red Lines can the Reds cross before the E.U. acts?

Germany suggests halt to Russia pipeline project, seeks cooperation with Navalny poisoning investigation

Prime Minister Angela Merkel has previously dismissed the idea of linking the pipeline to an investigation

 

Where is the proof that Russia did this?  Don't jump to conclusions.  Even Trump wouldn't blame Russia.  He wants to blame China. 😂

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/04/politics/donald-trump-alexey-navalny-poisoning/index.html

Edited September 7, 2020 by Hotone

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https://www.theepochtimes.com/putin-critic-navalny-has-come-out-of-coma-berlin-hospital-says_3490548.html

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5 hours ago, Hotone said:

Where is the proof that Russia did this?  Don't jump to conclusions.  Even Trump wouldn't blame Russia.  He wants to blame China. 😂

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/04/politics/donald-trump-alexey-navalny-poisoning/index.html

The Russians have killed so many politicians and journalists that it is well known they will have someone do it. The government arranges the hits through independent agents. 

Keep your head in the sand if you wish. 

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/heres-a-list-of-all-the-putin-critics-who-wound-up-murdered/news-story/4e2952b107b0c7159887e303062c9694

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Soviet_and_Russian_assassinations

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https://www.theepochtimes.com/calls-mount-for-germany-to-rethink-nord-stream-2-pipeline-after-navalny-poisoning_3486790.html

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especially after Crazy Donald over the sea stabbed Germans in the back with the Iran treaty. 

Take a good look at the bullshit that this guy "Yoshi Kamamura" posts.  It is filled with bile and venom towards President Trump.  Do you guys really want this jerk to be posting on Oilprice?   Time to kick him off the site.

[Jan van Eck + 7,558]

2 hours ago, ronwagn said:

The government arranges the hits through independent agents. 

Nothing independent about it.  Classic GRU hit job.  

They like poisoning because it is a long, slow, agonizing death (or disfigurement and maiming).  If the hit is by gunshot, then there is this messy body and clamors for an investigation.  Poisoning - hey, who knows?   But the poisoning is intended as an object lesson:  This is what happens to you and your family if you cross United Russia.  We will whack you.  Nowhere on the planet is safe: we will whack you. 

[Tom Nolan + 2,443]

...In the interest of learning how to really read the news, then, let's look at an example of a news story where the media is hiding key information from the public and see what that news story looks like when we add the relevant context.

Hopefully you'll remember the Novichok nonsense that took place in Salisbury in 2018. If not, you'll definitely want to go back and re-read my article on how "The Russian Poison Story is WMD 2.0" and follow that up with a deep dive into the archive of Craig Murray's coverage of the subject and The Blogmire's excellent summary of the story.

In case you need a refresher, you can do what the normies do: turn to Wikipedia! Here's the first paragraph of the wiki summary of the story:

On 4 March 2018, Sergei Skripal, a former Russian military officer and double agent for the UK's intelligence services, and his daughter, Yulia Skripal, were poisoned in the city of Salisbury, England with a Novichok nerve agent, according to UK sources and the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW). After three weeks in a critical condition, Yulia regained consciousness and was able to speak; she was discharged from hospital on 9 April. Sergei was also in a critical condition until he regained consciousness one month after the attack; he was discharged on 18 May. A police officer was also taken into intensive care after attending the incident. By 22 March he had recovered enough to leave the hospital.

While everyone who was following the news at the time has likely heard various pieces of this narrative as it was being reported, only those obsessives who were really following all of the twists and turns in the case will know the incredible absurdities that were casually revealed and quickly buried in the weeks and months after the story fell out of the limelight. Those absurdities include:

• That the military just happened to be running a military exercise—dubbed "Toxic Dagger"—involving responding to chemical, biological and neurological weapons attacks at the exact time of the Skripal poisoning and in the exact same city.
• That the first responder at the scene just happened to be the Chief Nursing Officer for the British Army.
• That the poisonings took place just miles down the road from Porton Down, the site of the UK military's biological and chemical weapons lab that would itself identify the nerve agent as "novichok."
• That this "novichok" poison that the crack Russian spies used—allegedly the deadliest nerve agent ever developed—somehow failed to kill either Sergei or Julia.
• That government officials and the dutiful stenographers in the corporate press immediately began using the phrase "of a type developed by Russia" to associate the chemical with the Russian government in the popular imagination, despite the fact that novichok was originally developed in Uzbekistan and is capable of being created and deployed by any chemist in any country anywhere in the world.
• That Trump was prompted to blame the Russians and kick out a raft of Russian diplomats in response to the incident because he was shown some (fake) photos of dead ducks.

I could go on. And on and on. (Trust me, we've only scratched the surface of the absurdity here.) But if you're reading this article in the first place, you likely know the drill by now: a spectacular event takes place, it's shoved down the public's throat as part of a campaign to demonize the bogeyman du jour, and it's promptly dropped as soon as contradictions or uncomfortable questions start to arise about what really happened.

In this case, the propagandistic value of the Skripal case is hardly difficult to divine. It was those dastardly Russians, sending their spies into the heart of enemy territory to kill an old retired double agent who hadn't been relevant to them in years because . . . reasons? And they did it in the most incredibly complicated (and ultimately ineffectual) way possible because . . . Putin wanted everyone to know that he was capable of (not quite) poisoning people in foreign countries?

. . . Or something like that. Just don't think too deeply about it.

But just when you thought that particular piece of absurdity had played itself out, it's back! That's right, there's been another high-profile novichok poisoning! This time the target was a person that the corporate lapdog press is referring to as the "leader" of the Russian "opposition," Alexei Navalny. Apparently, Putin didn't think he made his point well enough with the Skripals so he has once again resorted to using an arcane, elaborate, and ultimately ineffective poison to (not quite) kill his enemy in a way that would inevitably be immediately tied directly back to himself. The fiend!

. . . Or so the MSM would want you to believe. The truth, as always, is a little more complicated. Kit Knightly over at Off-Guardian breaks it down expertly in his article on the story:

• Alexei Navalny has never held any elected office, his political party doesn’t have a single MP in the Duma, and he polls at roughly 2% support with the Russian people.
• Despite this, and in the middle of an alleged “pandemic”, Vladimir Putin deems the man a threat and orders him killed.
• The State apparatus responsible for unnecessary and seemingly arbitrary acts of political murder decide to use novichok to poison him.
• This decision is taken in spite of the facts that a) Novichok totally and utterly failed to work in their alleged murder of the Skripals and b) It has already been widely publicly associated with Russia.
• Rather unsurprisingly, the novichok which didn’t kill its alleged target last time, doesn’t kill its alleged target this time either.
• Compounding their poor decision making, the Russians perform an emergency landing and take Navalny straight to a hospital for medical care.
• Despite Navalny being helpless and comatose in a Russian hospital, the powerful state-backed assassination team make no further attempts on his life.
• In fact, seemingly determined to under no circumstances successfully kill their intended victim, the Russian government allow him to leave the country and get medical help from one of the countries which previously accused them of using novichok.
• To absolutely no one’s surprise, the Germans claim to have detected novichok in Navalny’s system.
• Vladimir Putin and the Russian government are immediately blamed for the attempted murder.

Sigh. Here we go again. An incredibly unlikely narrative is being shoved down the public's throat in order to blame that arch-bogeyman, Vladimir Putin.

Never mind that the story makes no sense on its face.

Never mind that Moscow granted permission for Navalny (who is barely a blip on the Russian political radar) to leave the country for medical treatment, thus ensuring that their super secret plan to poison him with novichok would be uncovered and publicized to the world. (As Luke Harding helpfully explains in The Guardian: "The logical conclusion: Moscow wants the world to know.")

Never mind that it would make no sense for Putin to kill his opponent in such a way (namely, using a mysterious nerve agent that he had been blamed for using in the past and would inevitably implicate himself).

Never mind that this super deadly nerve agent failed to kill the last opponents that he supposedltried to use it on (and never mind that it has apparently failed once again).

Never mind any of this. The answer to any and all questions about the logic of this story is the same answer that the MSM offers to anyone who dares question why Assad would use messy and horribly ineffective chemical weapons on his own people when his military is on the brink of complete victory over the CIA-supported terrorists in his country. The answer is that Putin, just like Assad, is an insane, bloodthirsty, suicidal monster.

. . . And yet, that hardly seems like a satisfying answer to anyone with two brain cells to rub together, does it? It's almost like there's another part to this story, a missing puzzle piece that would help us to understand what's really happening here. And there is:

"Germany pressed to rethink Nord Stream 2 pipeline after Navalny poisoning"

Surprise, surprise. It looks like the Navalny case is giving all the opponents of Nord Stream 2 another excuse to derail the project.

If you've been following the pipeline politics that are reshaping diplomatic relations in Eurasia, you'll know that the US has used every trick in the book to halt the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. And if you haven't been following those pipeline politics, you'll want to re-read my 2017 article on "US Battles Russia for Heart of the EU," in which I noted:

Nord Stream 2 is, as the name suggests, an extension of Nord Stream, the natural gas pipeline connecting the Russian port town of Vyborg to the German university city of Greifswald. Nord Stream currently consists of two parallel lines with a capacity of 1.9 trillion cubic feet, but the Nord Stream 2 expansion is expected to increase that capacity to 3.9 trillion cubic feet.

As I reported at the time, the US imposed a new round of sanctions against Russia in 2017 and, surprisingly, the EU actually pushed back on those sanctions. Of course, they only pushed back because the sanctions were targeting European business interests, specifically any and all companies working with Russia in developing the Nord Stream 2 project. But however self-serving that pushback may have been, the incident did demonstrate there is a significant and rising faction in the EUreaucracy who favour building EU independence from the US and pursuing EU business interests, even if those interests are linked to Russia and/or China.

But now the latest dirty trick is being played to scuttle the pipeline project: the poisoning of Navalny with novichok, the nerve agent Absolutely 100% Guaranteed to Be Used Exclusively by the Russian Government or Your Money Back.

And it appears this ploy is working. As Rothschild Reuters reports:

Pressure mounted on German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Thursday to reconsider the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which will take gas from Russia to Germany, after she said Kremlin critic Alexei Navalny had been poisoned with a Soviet-style nerve agent.

But even here we can detect the "lie by omission" strategy that is skewing our perception of this event. The only two people cited in the article as "pressuring" Merkel to end the pipeline deal are Norbert Roettgen, descirbed as "the conservative head of Germany’s parliamentary foreign affairs committee," and Wolfgang Ischinger, described as "chairman of the Munich Security Conference and a former ambassador to Washington."

What Reuters fails to inform its readers is that Norbert Roettgen is a co-chair of the European Council on Foreign Relations and a committed Russophobe who has been calling for a more aggressive German foreign policy against the Russians for years. Also missing from the Reuters report is that Wolfgang Ischinger is also a consummate globalist insider, sitting on the board of the Atlantic Council, the World Economic Forum's Global Future Council on the Future of International Security and a raft of other globalist bodies.

So, to summarize: Merkel is under "mounting pressure" to scuttle Nord Stream 2 because of the phony-as-a-three-euro-bill Navalny novichok incident. This "pressure" is coming from precisely two men, both well-connected globalist insiders, and neither particularly influential in German politics. Merkel herself, as Reuters admits "has been unwavering in her support for the [Nord Stream] project" and has shown no sign whatsoever that she is even thinking of stopping the pipeline over the incident. But Reuters makes it a headline story and implies that her government is on the brink of succumbing to the pressure.

This is how the news is really reported. In bits and pieces, like a puzzle with only enough pieces there to give the audience an (often mistaken) impression of the events in question. Other pieces of the puzzle may be provided later as the story unfolds, but only for the purpose of further misleading the public with even more poorly reported information lacking in key details.

Sadly, this is the status quo of modern corporate mainstream dinosaur media. And the fact that this context-poor, misleading reporting is the norm these days means it falls on the readers of the news to fill in the gaps in these stories themselves. This often involves independent research and the ability to fit together disparate pieces of information reported in bits and pieces over many months and even years.

Naturally, it isn't feasible for every individual to do this with every story they ever see in the media. But at least keep this in mind: if you have only read one report on a major news event, you not only don't know the full story of that event but you may be even worse off than if you had never read it at all.

Alexander Pope may have meant it as a warning when he penned the famous line "A little learning is a dangerous thing." Unfortunately for humanity, the globalists and their media mouthpieces have managed to turn that observation into a business model.

Taken from 

Deceptions Revealed about the “Nord Stream 2 Pipeline” and Germany

The following article by James Corbett of The Corbett Report lays bare some of the real facts underneath the recent headline:

"Germany pressed to rethink Nord Stream 2 pipeline after Navalny poisoning"

September 5, 2020 by James Corbett

How To Read The News

https://hive.blog/news/@corbettreport/how-to-read-the-news

https://www.corbettreport.com/how-to-read-the-news/

(James Corbett does not copyright his work.  Anything may be used in other publications and formats.)

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Please explain the pattern of murders and dreadful poisoning that is best known to occur in Russia. Here is the latest. 

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/09/08/navalny-backed-opposition-candidates-in-siberia-attacked-with-foul-smelling-chemical-a71383

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/heres-a-list-of-all-the-putin-critics-who-wound-up-murdered/news-story/4e2952b107b0c7159887e303062c9694

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Soviet_and_Russian_assassinations

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21 hours ago, Jan van Eck said:

Nothing independent about it.  Classic GRU hit job.  

GRU, FSB - I have a hard time keeping track of what the KGB is calling itself these days!

[Tom Nolan + 2,443]

Kit Knightly has a great record of investigative journalism.  There is no “political” nor “national” hidden agenda.

Navalny Novichok Poisoning: The (Very Unlikely) Story So Far 

By Kit Knightly – September 2, 2020

https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/02/navalny-novichok-poisoning-the-very-unlikely-story-so-far/

For those of you who haven’t been following the news – Russian politician (or “opposition figure”, as he is universally referred to in the Western press) Alexei Navalny was taken ill two weeks ago. It is now being reported he was “poisoned” with “novichok”.

Here’s a quick rundown of the official story as it currently stands (bearing in mind that, as with most “official stories” it will likely be subject to instant, contradictory and retroactive changes in the coming weeks):

    Alexei Navalny has never held any elected office, his political party doesn’t have a single MP in the Duma, and he polls at roughly 2% support with the Russian people.

    Despite this, and in the middle of an alleged “pandemic”, Vladimir Putin deems the man a threat and orders him killed.

    The State apparatus responsible for unnecessary and seemingly arbitrary acts of political murder decide to use novichok to poison him.

    This decision is taken in spite of the facts that a) Novichok totally and utterly failed to work in their alleged murder of the Skripals and b) It has already been widely publicly associated with Russia.

    Rather unsurprisingly, the novichok which didn’t kill its alleged target last time, doesn’t kill its alleged target this time either.

    Compounding their poor decision making, the Russians not only perform an emergency landing and take Navalny straight to a hospital for medical care.

    Despite Navalny being helpless and comatose in a Russian hospital, the powerful state-backed assassination team make no further attempts on his life.

    In fact, seemingly determined to under no circumstances successfully kill their intended victim, the Russian government, allow him to leave the country and get medical help from one of the countries which previously accused them of using novichok.

    To absolutely no one’s surprise, the Germans claim to have detected novichok in Navalny’s system.

    Vladimir Putin and the Russian government are immediately blamed for the attempted murder.

 

(Luke Harding PROPAGANDA ARTICLE - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/02/using-novichok-against-navalny-is-a-russian-message-of-menace  )

If all this seems unlikely to you, don’t worry Luke Harding is here to explain it all.

He doesn’t have any evidence, of course. Instead we get sentences like this one [our emphasis]:

    “Over the past decade Moscow has produced and stockpiled small quantities, western intelligence agencies believe.”

However, never let it be said that Luke isn’t aware of the contradictions in his story:

    “One other unresolved question is why Moscow granted permission for Navalny to be treated abroad, knowing that sooner or later the novichok inside his body would be detected.”

But he has an answer for this:

    “The logical conclusion: Moscow wants the world to know.”

You see, Putin wants everyone to know he did it, so he’s making it obvious. And the Kremlin’s denials are being done with “a wink and smile”. This must be some new meaning of the word “logical” I wasn’t previously aware of.

One wonders what the Russians would have done if the novichok had worked as intended, and killed Navalny before he could get to a hospital.

They couldn’t send him to Berlin then, so who announces the novichok was there? Do they do it themselves?

Oh well, at least now people will have something to talk about that isn’t the rapidly crumbling Covid narrative.

 

[Tom Nolan + 2,443]

The poisoning of Sergei Skripal – 2018 – A Previous Poison Propaganda Ploy by the western world for the western world to see.

The Russian Poison Story is WMD 2.0

https://steemit.com/news/@corbettreport/the-russian-poison-story-is-wmd-2-0

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Of course the pipeline will be built. Now it it time to buy Gazprom stocks. They are way way way undervalued!

[Tom Nolan + 2,443]

4 hours ago, Dave Gilmour said:

Of course the pipeline will be built. Now it it time to buy Gazprom stocks. They are way way way undervalued!

I agree.

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By Finian Cunningham – September 8, 2020

Navalny False-Flag Authors Invent New Twist to Cover Lies

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/09/08/navalny-false-flag-authors-invent-new-twist-to-cover-lies/

ARTICLE

So now the Navalny poison episode takes on a new twist with German military intelligence subsequently claiming they found traces of Novichok on a bottle of water the Russian dissident had purportedly been drinking from. Rather, it sounds more like the authors of this false-flag operation have “bottled” – meaning became unnerved by the absurdities inherent in their own narrative.

Last week the German government announced that a Bundeswehr military laboratory had detected Novichok in the body fluids of Sergei Navalny. That promptly led to charges that the Kremlin was responsible for the attempted murder of Navalny using the Soviet-era nerve poison.

The trouble for the German side was that their narrative soon ran into contradictions from the Russian toxicologists who first treated Navalny when he apparently fell ill on a flight from Siberia to Moscow on August 20. The Russian medics said they had tested Navalny for a whole range of poisons, including organophosphate-type chemicals which attack the nervous system. The Russian doctors affirmed they found no poison traces. They concluded Navalny’s coma was induced by an existing medical condition, presumably diabetes. Furthermore, the doctors at the hospital in Omsk where Navalny was taken to on August 20, said they have original samples of his body fluids.

It’s the latter detail which seems to have obliged the Germans to elaborate their narrative with the new element of a poisoned bottle of water. If indeed the Russians have Navalny’s biological samples showing no presence of toxins then the German version falls apart as a fabrication. That could only mean that the claimed detection of Novichok by the Germans was the result of deliberate contamination of his body fluids while he was being treated in the hospital in Berlin where he was airlifted to on August 22 from Russia.

It is reported by Der Spiegel that Navalny’s family relatives kept the alleged bottle after he fell sick on the flight from the Siberian city Tomsk. They purportedly did not hand the bottle over to the Russian toxicologists in Omsk, but rather provided the bottle instead to the Germans when Navalny arrived in Berlin two days later.

This “bottle twist” is a convenient and necessary foil to avoid the potentially damning contradiction from the Russian side. The Germans can now claim to have evidence that was not available to the Russians.

But such a ploy creates more questions that still make the German narrative implausible, if not absurd.

If Novichok was used in poisoning Navalny, the 44-year-old dissident would most likely be dead by now. Also, the aides and flight attendants who came into close contact with him during his flight would have shown symptoms of poisoning. It is inconceivable that a bottle contaminated with the deadly nerve agent could have been transported by Navalny’s family to Germany without them being stricken.

The strange Navalny affair has an unerring resemblance to the equally outlandish Skripal affair. Yet the latter is cited as a precedent for the former in order to “substantiate” incrimination of Russia. The alleged Novichok weapon seems to have an amazing ability to lose its deadly potency on bystanders. The immediate victims apparently go into mysterious comas and are not seen or heard of again in public, detained in secret by the British and now German government. There is also the curious introduction of bottles in both cases: the perfume bottle which allegedly conveyed the Novichok weapon in the Skripal incident in England in March 2018, and now the water bottle in the Navalny incident.

As with the alleged assassination attempt on MI6 double agent Sergei Skripal, the latest incident involving Russian opposition figure Alexei Navalny is undoubtedly a false-flag provocation to foment Western sanctions and hostility against Moscow.

Immediately following reports of alleged German detection of Novichok in Navalny’s body, there were predictable calls for the cancellation of the Nord Stream-2 gas project between Russia and Germany. It is no secret that pro-Washington German politicians have long been opposed to the ambitious energy trade with Russia.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has up to now been resolute in wanting Nord Stream-2 completed in spite of immense pressure from the Trump administration and the U.S. Congress to abandon it. The American agenda is transparently to replace Russian gas energy supplies with American exports.

Navalny’s apparent poison-assassination fits neatly with this strategic American agenda. Given the allegiance of German military intelligence and certain politicians to the transatlantic axis it is not difficult to conceive of how a false-flag provocation against Moscow could be orchestrated.

The problem is that in their haste to set up Navalny as a victim in order to sabotage Nord Stream-2, the authors overlooked the unfortunate anomaly of Russian doctors potentially disproving the claim of detecting Novichok in Navalny’s body. Realizing their clumsy mistake, the authors are obliged to invent another twist in the story involving a contaminated water bottle. In terms of credibility, however, their invention doesn’t hold water.

This has grave implications for the survivability of Navalny. As an opposition figure long lionized and exaggerated by the West as the nemesis of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Navalny is more valuable dead than alive as a propaganda weapon. With its false-flag narrative failing, the temptation may be to up the ante dramatically by amending the script of Navalny “succumbing” to Novichok.

[Tom Nolan + 2,443]

2 minutes ago, Tom Nolan said:

Immediately following reports of alleged German detection of Novichok in Navalny’s body, there were predictable calls for the cancellation of the Nord Stream-2 gas project between Russia and Germany. It is no secret that pro-Washington German politicians have long been opposed to the ambitious energy trade with Russia.

The world is full of propaganda.  This time from Western powers.

Edited September 9, 2020 by Tom Nolan

[Tomasz + 1,608]

When it comes to propaganda, it doesn't add up. On the one hand, you can hear that it is the strongest poison in history.
On the other hand, out of 6 people, only a drug addict exhausted with heroin died. And on board the plane his fellow passengers, doctors, nurses and rescuers were not poisoned, only Navalny himself was poisoned with the use of allegedly the strongest poison in history.
Supposedly, 1 gram is enough to kill 100 people.

How much you have to use to not kill any of the 5 people.

Probably half of the hundredth of a gram.

I don't know if the computer can get such a small dose.

Even the opposition in Russia is skeptical of all these revelations, as evidenced by the fact that there were virtually no protests or demonstrations on the poisoning of Navalny. Firstly, it actually proves that his support is somewhere around 2%, and secondly, after various stories with weapons of mass destruction in Iraq or the alleged use of gas in Syria's Douma, the credibility of the West is also very low

 

Edited September 9, 2020 by Tomasz

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Soviet Union/Russia supplies Germany with natural gas and crude oil since 1960's.

Remember that natural gas was flowing even in the darkest hours of Cold War.

Russia is the most reliable supplier of hydrocarbons for Germany. Globally.

Russia is the ONLY reliable supplier of hydrocarbons for Germany cause NOBODY in the world, even US

can stop Russian natural gas from flowing.

With Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 Germany gets independence in energy policy.

It is the BEST foreign policy hedge for Germany between Russia and United Stated,

so it is a great political benefit for Germany. Either country would always supply hydrocarbons.

The rest is more or less irrelevant in discussion about Nord Stream 2.

 

A look at the German geopolitics in broader context:

Germany keeps close relations with all the crucial global stakeholders

and gets what they need from each of them (in a very simplified picture):

- US: consumer market and security,

- China: consumer market, manufacturing base, multilateralism against US,

- Russia: natural resources, multilateralism against US,

- EU: consumer market, multilateralism against US.

 

[Tom Nolan + 2,443]

For me personally, all the mainstream media stories which promote the poisoning as a "Russian poisoning plot", without addressing the illogical facts of the event, are part of the controlled media.  They aren't worth spit.

In fact, most all the mainstream media is not worth spit when it comes to the Covid scenario.  They are just part of the mega-elite narrative, bought and paid for.  

Bill Gates alone has bought tremendous influence in the media (much less in vaccine manufacturers and Big Pharma companies and World and National health organizations.)    https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php

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On 9/7/2020 at 6:11 PM, Jan van Eck said:

especially after Crazy Donald over the sea stabbed Germans in the back with the Iran treaty. 

Take a good look at the bullshit that this guy "Yoshi Kamamura" posts.  It is filled with bile and venom towards President Trump.  Do you guys really want this jerk to be posting on Oilprice?   Time to kick him off the site.

You like Trump and other authoritarian minded regimes love that idea of thought and expression control. Of course common sense will prevail in the end. It may take a few more generations to weed out this corrosive corruption.

[Tomasz + 1,608]

Very good article about western MSM antirussian bias

By Glenn Diesen, an Associate Professor at the University of South-Eastern Norway and an editor at the Russia in Global Affairs journal. Follow him on Twitter @glenndiesen

Quote

 

International law has gradually been replaced with trial by public opinion and states have become obsessed with narrative control. Information wars and “fake news” are the natural consequences and trust in the media is collapsing.

Much focus is devoted to the polarisation of media coverage in domestic politics, although what is the state of affairs in the coverage of international politics? In the current information war, all sides appear to have dirty hands. Russian media is constantly criticised, and sometimes the criticism is just. Yet, how has the information war with Russia affected the way Western media obtain, analyse and disseminate information?

The favourite source for Western media in Syria has long been the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which despite its extravagant name is merely a blog. The Guardian exposed in 2012 that the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights consists of one man, Rami Abdulrahman, located in Coventry, UK. During the day, he runs a clothing store with his wife, and in the evening from his kitchen, he is the leading information source for the Western world regarding events on the ground in Syria. Why is the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights such an authority on Syria?

If the Western media needs information about Russian troops in Ukraine, chemical weapons in Syria or any other major conflict that involves Russia – the go-to-man is Eliot Higgins, a blogger for a website called Bellingcat. Previously an employee in the ladies’ underwear industry, he gained legitimacy in the Western media by reporting exactly what it wanted to hear about Russia.

In an interview with actual experts, Spiegel magazine revealed that Higgins did not use the digital analytical tools correctly to “investigate” MH17 and his evidence was dismissed as “nothing more than reading tea leaves”. Higgins denounces his critics as Russian agents, often followed by vulgar requests to “suck his balls”. How did Bellingcat become a credible source for the media?

The media did not seem interested when to was revealed that a senior official in the Organisation for Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) had demanded the “removal of all traces” of a document that contradicted the key “evidence” that blamed the Syrian government being behind a gas attack. Instead, the media turned to its favourite bloggers/ “analysts”.

Self-censorship was also evident when former British Navy Admiral Lord West in an interview with the BBC expressed his doubts that the Syrian government was behind the chemical weapons attack in Douma. The BBC journalist interviewing him quickly interrupted to reprimand the admiral: “Given that we’re in an information war with Russia on so many fronts, do you think perhaps it’s inadvisable to be stating this so publicly”.

Germany’s Der Spiegel magazine also poked a hole in the strange narrative about the death of Sergey Magnitsky, which led to the US passing the Magnitsky Act against Russia and pushing it on the world. The storyline that Western governments and press embraced with exuberance was concocted by Bill Browder, the man who earned the media’s love by branding himself as “Putin’s Number 1 Enemy”.

Der Spiegel recognises it is doubtful that Magnitsky was killed in a grand conspiracy, rather they point to Browder’s loose relationship with the truth, the multitude of contradictions and falsehoods about the narrative of Browder’s 'lawyer' Magnitsky, who it turns out was not actually a lawyer. Yet, as Spiegel notes, the thrilling anti-Russian narrative was too compelling to be obstructed by the lack of evidence.

Following the poisoning of the Skripals in the UK, the focus on Western “solidarity” similarly undermined the possibility for objectivity. Former UK ambassador, Craig Murray, had several questions that seemingly eluded the media: The Skripals had different ages, genders and weights, yet several hours after being poisoned they both passed out at the exact same time so neither of them could get help. Instead, they were found by one of Britain’s leading chemical weapons experts, the Chief Nurse of the British Army.

The information about the rescuer’s identity was revealed accidentally months after the incident and it was not clear why it was concealed. The Skripals, who survived, could be asked these questions directly but the media appears content with the government’s narrative.

The press similarly has not let facts influence the narrative over Russiagate. The servers of the Democratic National Committee were never hacked according to the former National Security Agency Technical Director Bill Binney. However, it was proven that the political party that lost the election hired the former British spy Christopher Steele, who provided the sensational and fraudulent information that kick started the investigation.

Declassified information also revealed that the FBI knew the Steele dossier was fake, representing an actual collusion that should have caught the interest of the media. Yet, the Russiagate narrative remains resilient and contesting it is classed as the gravest of all crimes – supporting the narrative of the Kremlin.

One cannot help but to get a sense of déjà vu from the Georgian conflict in 2008, when Western media reported anything the Georgian government stated as indisputable facts. Even after the EU’s Independent Fact-Finding Mission in Georgia concluded that Saakashvili had thoroughly lied, the narrative of a Russian invasion remains strong to this day.

The latest media circus over the poisoning of Navalny similarly reveals the multitude of priorities that journalists are elevating above the task of informing the public. Navalny is an anti-corruption activist who enjoys miniscule support among the Russian population and was expelled from the liberal party Yabloko in 2007 due to xenophobic statements. Although, among Western journalists his critical stance against Putin has earned him the title as a “leading opposition politician” and a place alongside Browder as another “Putin’s Number 1 Enemy” that we simply cannot resist.

The media does not attempt to answer why the Russian government suddenly decided the activist needed to be assassinated with a high-profile chemical weapon, only to be treated at a state hospital and then allowed to transfer to Germany. Yet, the consensus that appears to have formed is that the Kremlin was behind the poisoning and it is now the prerogative of NATO, an anti-Russian military alliance, to investigate and punish – although not necessarily in that order.

Past incidents indicate that the rush to consensus will not be slowed down by inconvenient facts, and the conflict between the West and Russia will continue to intensify.

 

 

[Tom Nolan + 2,443]

September 12 - Zero Hedge

As Navalny Talks, Russia Demands Own Investigators Gain Access To Allegedly Poisoned Opposition Leader

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/navalny-talks-russia-demands-own-investigators-gain-access-allegedly-poisoned

The Alexei Navalny saga continues, with Russia essentially saying it has nothing at all to hide, now telling Germany it wants to send Russian investigators to assist in establishing what happened. 

Moscow further says it's established a timeline of Navalny's movements ahead of the alleged poisoning incident, with a crucial witness also being sought.

"Russian police have traced opposition politician Alexei Navalny’s movements and what he drank before falling ill in Siberia last month, and are trying to locate a witness who has left the country, the interior ministry said on Friday," Reuters reports.

“This request will include an application for the possible presence of Russian internal affairs investigators... and a Russian specialist when German colleagues are conducting investigations with Navalny, doctors and experts,” the ministry said in a statement.

All of this comes after Navalny is said to have emerged from a coma days ago after the alleged Aug.20 incident, after which he was transported by emergency flight to German medical facilities. Media reports say he can now speak, and investigators are no doubt seeking answers. Sky News reports:

"Der Spiegel and Bellingcat understand that Navalny can speak again and can likely remember details about his collapse," the publication wrote, crediting its investigative website partner.

"His statements could be dangerous for people behind the attack."

The Kremlin has vehemently rejected the charge emanating from the West that Putin or any security services were responsible for poisoning the Russian opposition politician and anti-corruption activist.

Despite a representative of Navalny insisting he had consumed any alcohol, the Russian timeline finds that:

Transport police in Tomsk had established a timeline of events leading up to Navalny falling ill, the ministry said. It listed a hotel, restaurant, flat and coffee shop Navalny had visited, and said he had drunk wine and an alcoholic cocktail.

Meanwhile Germany has said he was poisoned with Novichok agent, which includes nerve agents developed under the Soviets in the 1970s through 1980s. Critics of the German narrative say the idea that Putin would order the opposition activist's poisoning via Novichok is too "obvious".

Some European politicians are already talking sanctions against Russia over the ordeal; however, Russia has pointed out that nothing in the way of evidence has been established. 

He had reportedly been on a Russian commercial flight and after being served tea at Tomsk airport in Siberia. Mid-flight he cried out in pain loudly and collapsed, after which he was placed in intensive care.