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[BLA + 1,666]

1 hour ago, Enthalpic said:

Knowledge is the best prevention!  Well, other than screening, condoms or abstinence; but what kind of life is that?

 

Was this the first time.

From the sounds of it you could write a book on it.

PS I gave the $100 bet you won to a worthy cause. 

Edited October 9, 2020 by BLA

[Jan van Eck + 7,558]

On 10/6/2020 at 4:06 PM, Bob D said:

Guys

We lived through the greatest era of world history; post WWII through, you pick the year it ended.  The United States with all her flaws was indeed a shining city on a hill.  The US fought tyranny and liberated the defenseless.  The US fed the hungry.  The US stood for freedom.  The US created immense wealth across the globe.  It's over.  Power hungry politicians in the US do not work for the benefit of the citizens.  Indoctrination masked as education has left us dumb.  Belief in economic theories which have NEVER brought positive economic results now prevail.  There is no longer a sense of responsibility or integrity in the average American. The high water mark of this grand experiment is over likely having seen it's peak in the 1990's.  Blame whomever you want but the Media is at the forefront of the demise.  Societally destructive technology maimed the minds of the young who now find themselves pitted against the a country which delivered so much to so many.  I get little sleep some nights thinking what my 20 and 17 year old girls face.  Maybe it's just normal to worry as the world changes and my views don't?  I don't think so.  Our country used to be united against socialism.  Today we are moving at warp speed into adopting socialism.  

In the words of the great David Byrne of the Talking Heads .... My God, What have we done

Your observation that it is the "Media" that has "maimed the minds of the young" is certainly true assuming that you are specifically including, and pointing at, television production.  I would suggest that the debasement of standards in TV, on the rubric of "free speech," has done more damage than anything else.  Probably even more than pornography, although it might well be a toss-up.  The result is that your daughters, at 17 and 20, now face a social order where sexual explotation is seen as the norm.  The idea that a male would "court" your daughter in a dignified fashion is pretty much out the window.  Sexual debasement has wide-ranging ramifications, both for family formation and marriage stability. When marriages break up, and they do, lots of them, then the children become seriously damaged.  And that has huge implications for the future of the society. 

I would suggest that the best you can do is instill a strong sense of self-worth in your daughters, so that they have the innate ability and poise to say No to male demands of casual sexual exploitation.  Because that is what Hollywood and TV promote - exploitation.  The producers of those programs should be deeply ashamed of themselves.  PS  I long ago kicked the TV out of the house.  Good riddance. 

[Enthalpic + 1,496]

30 minutes ago, BLA said:

Was this the first time.

From the sounds of it you could write a book on it.

PS I gave the $100 bet you won to a worthy cause. 

I've never had an STD but I am fascinated by them and diseases in general.

I'm in a monogamous relationship now.

Cool.

Edited October 9, 2020 by Enthalpic

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19 hours ago, ronwagn said:

I have better graphs Enthalpic!

The Latest News and Info on COVID 19 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MXY8T0j7k0oUBsHW4BfjJM__DRIyzqrDf_FSlV4hHpw/edit

I never said it would quickly disappear. It is almost back to where it was in March. It won't disappear. It is already to the point where it is about as deadly as the flu (due to new knowledge and treatments. The problem now is that the rural areas have not had enough exposure to build up immunity. Only the aged and those with other problems should isolate. Businesses should be allowed to operate normally. Masks and distancing should be optional. Up to the businesses. Schools should all be open. 

[ronwagn + 6,290]

7 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

May I ask why on high ground?

Washington D.C. is on low ground subject to flooding. Muskogee has a lot of water everywhere. I wouldn't want a possibility of flooding. I actually haven't studied the topography but that was my impression. Average rainfall is 47 inches though!

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3 hours ago, ronwagn said:

Washington D.C. is on low ground subject to flooding. Muskogee has a lot of water everywhere. I wouldn't want a possibility of flooding. I actually haven't studied the topography but that was my impression. Average rainfall is 47 inches though!

Alright.  I was wondering if it was something like that, or if it was because of all the BS!   

[ronwagn + 6,290]

13 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

Alright.  I was wondering if it was something like that, or if it was because of all the BS!   

A problem if you have a fertile mind and good sense of humor! 

Just imagine if all those deep staters had to move to Muskogee or give up their jobs. Enough of them would go to ruin the area though. Back to Oklahoma CIty. 

Edited October 10, 2020 by ronwagn

[Ward Smith + 6,615]

23 hours ago, BLA said:

Was this the first time.

From the sounds of it you could write a book on it.

PS I gave the $100 bet you won to a worthy cause. 

What was the bet? 

[BLA + 1,666]

36 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

What was the bet? 

I bet Biden wouldn't show up for the debate.  

[Ward Smith + 6,615]

1 hour ago, BLA said:

I bet Biden wouldn't show up for the debate.  

You bet too early! He ain't showing up for this one 🧐

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

16 hours ago, Ward Smith said:

You bet too early! He ain't showing up for this one 🧐

I was laughing for a few days there.  First Brave Joe:  I will be there, whether the President is healthy enough or not, I'll be there.

Second, not so brave Joe: I cannot be in the same room as the President because I don't believe his doctors, er, I mean I don't believe Trump when he says he is healthy enough.

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

They will do anything to get out of the second debate.  Anything.  It's not a debate if you phone it in; it's a telecon.

[Ward Smith + 6,615]

5 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

They will do anything to get out of the second debate.  Anything.  It's not a debate if you phone it in; it's a telecon.

Given their propensity for cheating, if they did it online, Biden would be looking at a wall of teleprompter screens, 75" each and 50 aides typing answers furiously. 

[0R0 + 6,251]

On 10/9/2020 at 1:07 PM, Jan van Eck said:

Not possible.   Most States have passed Statutes requiring their delegates to "vote" in manner dictated to them, winner take all votes.

As for Mr. Trump, I predict he will not be re-elected; the electoral college votes do not add up.  He would have to take Ohio, and Michigan, and Wisconsin, and Florida, and the Carolinas.  Is that likely?  No.  Florida might well go to Biden, and that would sink Trump.  Ohio remains a toss-up.  Michigan might go to Trump, because of disgust with the Governor.  But Wisconsin is more likely to go to Biden, as well as Illinois.  I don't see how Trump can prevail without Wisconsin.  The numbers are not there.  

if the race is close, then the single votes from New Hampshire, one district in Maine, and one district on Nebraska (city of Omaha) just might squeak, but I suspect all will go Democratic.  So in a close race, Trump loses the last three critical electoral college votes. 

But that is if it is close.  I don't think it will be close.  I think the Dems will be at over 300, perhaps close to 350, and Trump stuck at about 190.  Remember:  I have no stake in the outcome, just the way I see the EC votes ending up.  Biden takes it.   Sorry about that.

Final note:  remember that Biden is the Party scarecrow, he is there as a placeholder until the Party figures out what it wants to do.  So he will resign part way through, and Kamala Harris will be your actual president.  Now, that should be interesting.

As of last week, Cahaly at Trafalgar was the most accurate pollster, most notably calling the 2016 election correctly and gives Trump All the swing states you mention and PA as well. The regular polling methodology is no longer useful because Trump supporters and conservatives in general don't do polls on the phone.

The polling is defacto of democratic or independent likely voters, often including non voters.

This is a turnout election more so than one in which undecided voters allocate their votes from one candidate to another. The pollsters are making presumptions on the statistical representation of their polling methods that are verified to be wrong. As the liberal noise in the media and censorship on social media gains, including Twitter removing and flagging Trump posts the Trumpists are both mad as all getout, and don't do polls at all. The change in the polls is not measuring voting intentions but participation bias in the polls. The Trumpists are storming the polls. We have yet to see excitement about Biden. His physical appearances are to thin crowds.
 

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7 minutes ago, 0R0 said:

As of last week, Cahaly at Trafalgar was the most accurate pollster, most notably calling the 2016 election correctly and gives Trump All the swing states you mention and PA as well. The regular polling methodology is no longer useful because Trump supporters and conservatives in general don't do polls on the phone.

The polling is defacto of democratic or independent likely voters, often including non voters.

This is a turnout election more so than one in which undecided voters allocate their votes from one candidate to another. The pollsters are making presumptions on the statistical representation of their polling methods that are verified to be wrong. As the liberal noise in the media and censorship on social media gains, including Twitter removing and flagging Trump posts the Trumpists are both mad as all getout, and don't do polls at all. The change in the polls is not measuring voting intentions but participation bias in the polls. The Trumpists are storming the polls. We have yet to see excitement about Biden. His physical appearances are to thin crowds.
 

With covid I don't think crowd size is a meaningful measure

My soon to be mother-in-law was born in the states and already voted by mail.  No chance she would go out to a crowded place.

 

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

2 hours ago, 0R0 said:

As of last week, Cahaly at Trafalgar was the most accurate pollster, most notably calling the 2016 election correctly and gives Trump All the swing states you mention and PA as well. The regular polling methodology is no longer useful because Trump supporters and conservatives in general don't do polls on the phone.

The polling is defacto of democratic or independent likely voters, often including non voters.

This is a turnout election more so than one in which undecided voters allocate their votes from one candidate to another. The pollsters are making presumptions on the statistical representation of their polling methods that are verified to be wrong. As the liberal noise in the media and censorship on social media gains, including Twitter removing and flagging Trump posts the Trumpists are both mad as all getout, and don't do polls at all. The change in the polls is not measuring voting intentions but participation bias in the polls. The Trumpists are storming the polls. We have yet to see excitement about Biden. His physical appearances are to thin crowds.
 

And then there's this.

 

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

No sarcasm:  That poor man.  They have put so much on his shoulders, and he appears to be doing his best, but he really appears as if he doesn't want to be there.  If that was my father, I would start to shield him and get him away from his handlers.  They should be ashamed of themselves.

[Richard D + 86]

From the other side of the pond;a suggested Trump slogan.

WHITE HOUSE or CRACK HOUSE - The choice is yours.

[LB Balm + 6]

There's a lot of "it's going to be a blowout" and "people aren't going to fall for" happening here. 

There was a Forbes article a few years back claiming only around 34% of the American electorate can even name all three branches of government and that a third of Americans believed foreign aid was the countries largest expense based on the book Democracy and Political Ignorance: Why Smaller Government is Smarter.

Just because you are particularly informed on an issue doesn't mean most other voters are. 

But on the bright side we're seeing record turnout. 10 million votes thereabouts so far. So even if no one has any idea of what's going on, at least a lot of us will have weighed in. 

Cheers!

[Ward Smith + 6,615]

3 hours ago, LB Balm said:

10 million votes thereabouts so far

Votes or ballots? Given the dirty tricks the Demoncrats have already been caught doing, one only can wonder at what they haven't been caught doing. 

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On 10/12/2020 at 1:20 AM, 0R0 said:

This is a turnout election more so than one in which undecided voters allocate their votes from one candidate to another. The pollsters are making presumptions on the statistical representation of their polling methods that are verified to be wrong.

Unfortunately, the Republican Party members in Wisconsin do not agree.  It is sobering to realize that the once-comfortable Republican margins in suburban Milwaukie, and in blue-collar Green Bay, are collapsing. Trump is far too coarse for the tastes of suburban Milwaukie, those Republicans cannot stand him.  And, due to the collapse of "dairy," there are not enough rural votes out there in dairyland, particularly in Southwest Wisconsin, to make up the losses.  Remember that Trump took Wisconsin by 23,000 votes, out of 3 million. That is very, very thin. To quote one analysis by party insiders:

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Trump's path to victory in Wisconsin, a state he won narrowly in 2016, has become increasingly complicated, and so has his path to the 270 electoral votes needed for his reelection.

“It’s challenging. There are far more states in play in 2020 than there were in 2016,” said Whit Ayers, a veteran Republican pollster. “And they include states Trump won by a significant margin like Arizona, Iowa, Ohio and Georgia.”

Few states are as important to the president's prospects as Wisconsin, which he carried by less than 23,000 votes out of nearly 3 million cast in 2016 and which had not voted for a Republican for president in more than a generation.

But even Trump's supporters concede the hill is steep given the declines they are seeing. “Can Republicans and Trump offset that? That’s the big question, and I don’t have a strong answer,” said Jim Miller, the Republican chairman of Wisconsin’s 7th Congressional District, which covers the state’s northernmost 26 counties.

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I don't think he can pull it off.  And if Trump loses Wisconsin, then the path to 270 is dim indeed.  And you have the same problems with Arizona and Ohio.  The idea that Trump voters are hiding out in the bushes and will rally at voting time in large masses is, quite frankly, an illusion.  Ain't gonna happen. 

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

3 minutes ago, Jan van Eck said:

Unfortunately, the Republican Party members in Wisconsin do not agree.  It is sobering to realize that the once-comfortable Republican margins in suburban Milwaukie, and in blue-collar Green Bay, are collapsing. Trump is far too coarse for the tastes of suburban Milwaukie, those Republicans cannot stand him.  And, due to the collapse of "dairy," there are not enough rural votes out there in dairyland, particularly in Southwest Wisconsin, to make up the losses.  Remember that Trump took Wisconsin by 23,000 votes, out of 3 million. That is very, very thin. To quote one analysis by party insiders:

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Trump's path to victory in Wisconsin, a state he won narrowly in 2016, has become increasingly complicated, and so has his path to the 270 electoral votes needed for his reelection.

“It’s challenging. There are far more states in play in 2020 than there were in 2016,” said Whit Ayers, a veteran Republican pollster. “And they include states Trump won by a significant margin like Arizona, Iowa, Ohio and Georgia.”

Few states are as important to the president's prospects as Wisconsin, which he carried by less than 23,000 votes out of nearly 3 million cast in 2016 and which had not voted for a Republican for president in more than a generation.

But even Trump's supporters concede the hill is steep given the declines they are seeing. “Can Republicans and Trump offset that? That’s the big question, and I don’t have a strong answer,” said Jim Miller, the Republican chairman of Wisconsin’s 7th Congressional District, which covers the state’s northernmost 26 counties.

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I don't think he can pull it off.  And if Trump loses Wisconsin, then the path to 270 is dim indeed.  And you have the same problems with Arizona and Ohio.  The idea that Trump voters are hiding out in the bushes and will rally at voting time in large masses is, quite frankly, an illusion.  Ain't gonna happen. 

Well, if that's the case, then so be it.  America will have spoken and it will lie in the bed of its making.  We'll wallow through and see how a global view on butt kissing works out for us for a while.  I say that because I don't see a middle ground this time around.  We either sort our own house out, and deal with all that is China, or go along with the global agenda and see how that works out.  I hope we allow this man named Trump a chance to finish what he's started, or at least get as far as he can in the next four years.

[ceo_energemsier + 1,818]

On 10/6/2020 at 8:16 AM, BLA said:

The Democrats control the dialog every day, every week .   .   .   all the time. 

Biden has not had to answer any other questions on policy. BIden lies about and misrepresents Trump and the media does not call him out and big tech is quick to censor the President over nothing but lets Joe babble on. 

Whether it's CNN's Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo  or  FOX News' Chris Wallace and Sandra Smith (there goes Fair and Balanced) they are feeding into the Dems face mask narratives and the Trump campaign has been ineffective and inept at presenting their case for reelection. 

Today (Oct 6) Fox News anchor Brett Baer said Covid 19 is "The Issue" of the 2020 Campaign.  Meaning the only issue.

How short-sighted, driven by the emotions of the day. A year from now nobody will remember Covid. 

Covid19 is not an issue it's a distraction.  

 

The Democratic Party and the Deep State have put the Trump Administration on the defensive for four years.  It worked.  But is that the country we want to live in ?

November 3rd Ten's of million of easily malleable white , college educated , suburban Soccer Moms will vote for Joe BIden and change this country forever  . . . . all because he wears a face mask yo bed at night.   

A YEAR FROM NOW COVID19 WILL BE BUT A FAINT MEMORY BUT .   .   .   .

THE U.S. WILL BE CHANGED FOR DECADES TO COME AND LEFT WITH :

* Open Borders with millions of new immigrants stressing the country's financial stability and medical system.

* $4.00 + gal gasoline as fracking is banned. U.S. will again be dependent on oil from some of the most unstable countries in the world and subject to their cartel pricing.

* Iran sanctions will have been withdrawn , they will get a bomb, current Mideast peace progress will be reversed and probability of a war likely.

* NATO (Germany , etc) will never pay their fair share for Europe's defense.

* Large increases in taxes that will put the burden on the middle class and small businesses, The large international businesses don't pay U.S. taxes. Wallstreet Million and billionaires don't pay income taxes (Carried Interest loophole)

* Two New states , D.C. and Puerto Rico assuring a one Party autocratic rule.

* China hegemony will proceed unchallenged and drain the U.S. of jobs and economic prosperity.

* China tariffs will be dropped and U.S. economic miracle will be obliterated. China will continue to jail the Uigher population, oppress Hong Kong , threaten Taiwan , enrich the BIden Family and establish military dominance of the Asia Pacific region.

* The Cancel Culture and Big Tech censorship will limit your free speech rights.  They will police any independent thinking and thought.

* Big Tech and Wallstreet will control campaign funds and elections to assure their agenda , not yours.

* Trillion spent on Green new deal at the expense of starving the U.S. economy

* Additional far left Supreme Court justices (packing the court) basically voiding U.S. constitution and guaranteeing socialist governess.

* Repeal of the electorial college giving power to California and New York while taking away any say in national discourse from middle America a rural states.

* Continuation of Political graft , bribery  and favoritism by Federal officials and international advisories to enrich Pols friends , contributors and family.

* Control of what your child learns in schools, what medical shots they must take (some states pushing mandatory flu shots this year.  Mass Gov executive order all 5 year olds thru 19 year olds MUST get Flu shot).  That's a parents decision.  Not an overbearing government) or who they support (young boy was banned from class last week because when asked who he admired he said President Trump).

* Deep State will flourish like never before and those responsible for spying on Trump campaign and attempt to destroy his administration will go unpunished.  CRIME DOES PAY. 

* THE WORST RESULT OF A BIDEN WIN will be nasty hate filled  Reps Nancy Pelosi , Adam Schiff , Maxine Waters, Eric Swalwell and IIhan Omar in your face every night on TV.

* AOC and Bernie Sanders socialist agenda will lead the Congress.  

What is most striking to me is how docile and accepting voters are to these changes.   In some part many are intimidated, ostracized or have their jobs threatened if they don't fall in line.  The average American has lost the will to fight for what's right. 

Oh well, it was great while it lasted .

TRUMP SHOULD TELL Speaker PELOSI AND GOV WHITMER TO DO YOUR JOB AND STOP THE POLITICAL STUNTS , GROW UP  . . . ACT WITH SOME CLASS AND DIGNITY THAT THEIR OFFICE HELD DESERVES.  

THEY THINK THE ONLY WAY DEMS CAN WIN IS DIVIDE THE COUNTRY, CAUSE CHAOS AND PROMOTE HATE.

TRUMP CAN SAY ANYTHING AS LONG AS HE SAYS IN A CALM AND SINCERE MANNER.  EVEN USE A LITTLE HUMOR.  

Don't let them get under your skin.

Any American , regardless of being a Liberal, Democrat or Republican should be extremely scared and change their minds to be voting for Harris-Biden , when Biden on record said

"The voters dont deserve to know the answer" or something to that effect in regards to his Supreme Court packing questions.

Only a socialist-commie who prefers to live under a dictatorship would support that or people who do not comprehend what it means!

 

[0R0 + 6,251]

38 minutes ago, Jan van Eck said:

Unfortunately, the Republican Party members in Wisconsin do not agree.  It is sobering to realize that the once-comfortable Republican margins in suburban Milwaukie, and in blue-collar Green Bay, are collapsing. Trump is far too coarse for the tastes of suburban Milwaukie, those Republicans cannot stand him.  And, due to the collapse of "dairy," there are not enough rural votes out there in dairyland, particularly in Southwest Wisconsin, to make up the losses.  Remember that Trump took Wisconsin by 23,000 votes, out of 3 million. That is very, very thin. To quote one analysis by party insiders:

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Trump's path to victory in Wisconsin, a state he won narrowly in 2016, has become increasingly complicated, and so has his path to the 270 electoral votes needed for his reelection.

“It’s challenging. There are far more states in play in 2020 than there were in 2016,” said Whit Ayers, a veteran Republican pollster. “And they include states Trump won by a significant margin like Arizona, Iowa, Ohio and Georgia.”

Few states are as important to the president's prospects as Wisconsin, which he carried by less than 23,000 votes out of nearly 3 million cast in 2016 and which had not voted for a Republican for president in more than a generation.

But even Trump's supporters concede the hill is steep given the declines they are seeing. “Can Republicans and Trump offset that? That’s the big question, and I don’t have a strong answer,” said Jim Miller, the Republican chairman of Wisconsin’s 7th Congressional District, which covers the state’s northernmost 26 counties.

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I don't think he can pull it off.  And if Trump loses Wisconsin, then the path to 270 is dim indeed.  And you have the same problems with Arizona and Ohio.  The idea that Trump voters are hiding out in the bushes and will rally at voting time in large masses is, quite frankly, an illusion.  Ain't gonna happen. 

The question is whether people vote for issues or the person, Cahaly of Trafalgar claims the issues matter and the personalities matter much less. His surveys show a large lopsided backing for Trump issues.

Cahaly notes that conventional polling methods fall to a bias trap as the left violence bullying and accusatory noise and media + social platforms are shutting down Trump supporter's willingness to confide in pollsters, or for that matter, anyone. They fear retribution by the leftist mob. To get fired, have their business or home burnt down, have their children harassed.

https://twitter.com/corobium/status/1316000103740502016?s=20

Level 8:

It's about 35% or so on the polls I've seen. Problem with polls is that they can only sample people willing to pick up the phone and answer questions about politics for 5-30 minutes, often talking with a live person. Some of these, Dems +9 with only 76% of R's supporting Trump.

Splitting the difference on Moderates you average 25-26% willing to give opinions on the conservative half, 49% of the liberal side would participate. That leaves a spread of 23% to 24% Or a natural response bias of nearly 2 to 1. Education and regional categorization for demographic representation can balance out a portion of the bias, but it is on a scale never encountered, even in the 2016 election.

Going back to Cahaly's analysis, and the betting market bets, it is 59% Trump vs. 35% Biden. He measured bias by state and changed polling methods to eliminate as much of it as possible, which the main pollsters don't. He has a 98% precision on his election forecasts, most notably being the only poll firm to predict the 2016 election correctly.

The Republican fear of on 76% of republicans voting for Trump is misplaced. They are not "never Trumpers" but are lying as they have been doing for most of the decade. The primary vote for Trump was 94% or so. The "Trump party" voter registrations are up strongly. upwards of 150k in PA alone.

Cahaly is giving Trump WI with a small margin within his poll's error. GA Carolinas, OH MI FL AZ Iowa too are solidly into Trump

majorities and NV which was Dem last time may go for Trump. 

He expects a 30 to 59 EC margin for a Trump win.

That was nearly 2 weeks ago now, but little has changed since but for Trump's recovery from the then known CV19 infection. IIRC

Going by the polling bias from Cato's survey, Trump may suffer a polling bias north of 20%. I was guesstimating 10%. I don't expect the major polls to predict anything even remotely proximate to correct.

The Rep pollster's hand wringing is good to motivate the Trump team and the faithful, but is due to their retaining the same old polling methods that are now creating an understated estimate of Trump's support.

 

 

 

[0R0 + 6,251]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/10/10/the-shy-trump-vote-is-bigger-this-year-and-who-they-are-should-shake-democrats-n2577613

This article conveys some of the issues of polling and points out that Trump is leading comfortably. 

Biden's washed out appearance and incessant verbal stumbles are chipping away at his credibility as he campaigns across the country to crowds of Trump supporters who boo away at him, while Biden's own supporters stay home for "social distancing" purposes.

Highlights are Zogby likely voter approval rate at 51% for Trump.

Cahaly poll last week favorable for Trump

https://twitter.com/RobertCahaly?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1314570906132533250|twgr^share_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftownhall.com%2Ftipsheet%2Fmattvespa%2F2020%2F10%2F10%2Fthe-shy-trump-vote-is-bigger-this-year-and-who-they-are-should-shake-democrats-n2577613

. Our new @trafalgar_group #2020Election #Arizona #BattlegroundState #poll conducted Oct 6-8 shows Trump expanding his lead to 4%:

47.8% @realDonaldTrump,

43.8% @JoeBiden,

2.2% @Jorgensen4POTUS,

1.6% Other,

4.6% Und.

See Report: https://thetrafalgargroup.org/news/az-pres-1020/