shadowkin + 584 EA October 9, 2020 Nancy Pelosi is seeking to invoke the 25th amendment. If you believe the fake news polls Trump is down 15%. If Democrats were confident of winning why would Pelosi bother to try to remove the President less than one month before the election? I think Democrats own internal polling shows Trump is winning or Biden is slightly winning but within the margin of error. So this is another Democrat tactic to overturn the results of an election, much like their tactic of packing the Supreme Court. It's looking like 2016 all over again. 2 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLA + 1,666 BB October 9, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, shadowkin said: Nancy Pelosi is seeking to invoke the 25th amendment. If you believe the fake news polls Trump is down 15%. If Democrats were confident of winning why would Pelosi bother to try to remove the President less than one month before the election? I think Democrats own internal polling shows Trump is winning or Biden is slightly winning but within the margin of error. So this is another Democrat tactic to overturn the results of an election, much like their tactic of packing the Supreme Court. It's looking like 2016 all over again. TRUMP SHOULD TELL Speaker PELOSI AND GOV WHITMER TO DO YOUR JOB AND STOP THE POLITICAL STUNTS , GROW UP . . . ACT WITH SOME CLASS AND DIGNITY THAT THEIR OFFICE HELD DESERVES. THEY THINK THE ONLY WAY DEMS CAN WIN IS DIVIDE THE COUNTRY, CAUSE CHAOS AND PROMOTE HATE. TRUMP CAN SAY ANYTHING AS LONG AS HE SAYS IT IN A CALM AND SINCERE MANNER. EVEN USE A LITTLE HUMOR. Don't let them get under your skin. Edited October 10, 2020 by BLA 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcin2 + 726 MK October 10, 2020 19 hours ago, shadowkin said: Nancy Pelosi is seeking to invoke the 25th amendment. If you believe the fake news polls Trump is down 15%. If Democrats were confident of winning why would Pelosi bother to try to remove the President less than one month before the election? I think Democrats own internal polling shows Trump is winning or Biden is slightly winning but within the margin of error. So this is another Democrat tactic to overturn the results of an election, much like their tactic of packing the Supreme Court. It's looking like 2016 all over again. Sure, and Democrats are so smart that even Fox News recent poll that shows +9 Biden lead was falsified by them. Historically the candidate with double digits lead 3 weeks before election never lost. Trump legacy is 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 October 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Marcin2 said: Sure, and Democrats are so smart that even Fox News recent poll that shows +9 Biden lead was falsified by them. Historically the candidate with double digits lead 3 weeks before election never lost. Trump legacy is All i can think of is someday it will be written how one man turned the Socialist/Progressive party into the party of lunatics...TDS comes to mind. 1 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 October 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Marcin2 said: Sure, and Democrats are so smart that even Fox News recent poll that shows +9 Biden lead was falsified by them. Historically the candidate with double digits lead 3 weeks before election never lost. Trump legacy is You missed 2016? Didn't get the US news there in… wherever you really are? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 October 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, Ward Smith said: You missed 2016? Didn't get the US news there in… wherever you really are? Clinton was ahead by about 4 percentage points in the polls, not 10. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuarterCenturyVet + 312 JL October 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Enthalpic said: Clinton was ahead by about 4 percentage points in the polls, not 10. Wrong. It was 11pts with about the same to go. Will history repeat itself? https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/prri-atlantic-poll-trump-plummets/503561/ 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazy trip + 90 GA October 11, 2020 (edited) When I heard Pelosi was bringing up the 25th amendment again, (she/they blathered about it in 2016) my first thought was that the Democrats are setting the table to more easily remove a President Biden if he somehow manages to win the election. Edited October 11, 2020 by crazy trip sent before finishing 2 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Snyder + 70 October 11, 2020 9 hours ago, QuarterCenturyVet said: Wrong. It was 11pts with about the same to go. Will history repeat itself? https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/prri-atlantic-poll-trump-plummets/503561/ We have been witnessing "The Great Rope a Dope II". The Democrats have been telling the Lie, so many times, even they are believing it. Even Biden stated today, if he loses, it will be because of manipulation at the ballot box. They have been setting this up since their convention. Excuses to riot once again. 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0R0 + 6,251 October 12, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 1:57 PM, Marcin2 said: Sure, and Democrats are so smart that even Fox News recent poll that shows +9 Biden lead was falsified by them. Historically the candidate with double digits lead 3 weeks before election never lost. Trump legacy is The problem is that pollsters use the same methods today as they did 30 years ago. They are no longer relevant. Polling bias has measured as high as 30% in some states. I was guesstimating a 10% average bias, it appears bigger than that and highly variable from state to state. It is far more difficult to get a precise poll. As Reps feel further threatened by media and social platforms' bullying, their participation in polls is dropping off. That turns the polls into measures of participation. Trump is picking up in black voters and Hispanic voters too. Florida's Cuban and Venezuelan voters are solidly on Trump's side. PA has picked up 10% of registered voters signing up as republicans over the prior election, yet the polls indicate a reduced Trump vote. I don't think that is possible. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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shadowkin + 584 EA October 14, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 7:20 AM, crazy trip said: When I heard Pelosi was bringing up the 25th amendment again, (she/they blathered about it in 2016) my first thought was that the Democrats are setting the table to more easily remove a President Biden if he somehow manages to win the election. That's possible. Even Trump brought this up but I don't think they'll need the 25th amendment should Biden win. I think they already have a plan to force him, quietly, to resign after a year or two due to 'health reasons'. 1 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites