Dan Warnick + 6,100 October 19, 2020 (edited) We all know that we need to listen to the Doctors, not the Billionaires, not Big Tech and sure as heck not the politicians. I never ask anyone, ever, to spread and share videos or other media, but please share this with your family and friends. @Tom Nolan shared this video here first. After watching it, I was preparing an email to my brother and to my surprise I got a message from him with the following link, directly to America's Frontline Doctors asking me to check out their website. America's Frontline Doctors - Safely Start Living Again! Edited October 19, 2020 by Dan Warnick 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN October 19, 2020 Welcome to America’s Frontline Doctors We exist to counter the massive disinformation campaign regarding the pandemic. We are diverse, exceedingly well-credentialed physicians with extensive front line experience treating COVID-19 and the risky health effects due to the lockdowns. There are many early treatment options! Most people do just fine! There is no reason to live in fear! If you would like to know the facts from doctors who are passionate about giving you those facts, watch our videos, found under Summit. If you need access to early treatment go to Referral. If you simply want to understand what “early treatment” is, watch our “Early Treatment” video or look under HCQ Protocols. Unlike the government, CDC, FDA, NIH or any other organization with other motives, we doctors have a fiduciary, moral, ethical, legal and spiritual obligation to help people … and that means you. We are not the media. Please share widely. https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/ I expect YOUTUBE to CENSOR this video like they did months ago. You can watch the video on Bitchute here... https://www.bitchute.com/video/jwieGLuR8yXB/ or here... https://www.bitchute.com/video/kZ0mYQfEPuPu/ 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 October 19, 2020 (edited) Yeah, look into those "front line doctors." See how many are actually practising covid front line medicine (none). Several are ophthalmologists... https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/about-us/ Edited October 19, 2020 by Enthalpic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 October 19, 2020 America's Frontline Doctors who bring their frontline experience to the frontline battle for truth in science and medicine. Dr. Robin Armstrong @Robinlynnarmst1 Dr. Robin Armstrong is an internal medicine physician practicing as a hospitalist and in nursing homes. Dr. Armstrong owns Armstrong Medical Group with eleven employees and practices medicine in his home town. Dr. Armstrong is known for successful early treatment of the frail elderly COVID-19 patients in the nursing home setting early in the pandemic. He serves on the Finance Commission of Texas. His wife Martha is also a doctor and they have four sons. www.robinarmstrongfortexas.com Dr. Jeffrey Barke @RX_forLiberty Dr. Jeffrey Barke is a Board Certified primary care physician in private practice for over 25 years. He completed his medical school and family practice residency at the University of California, Irvine. He has served as an Associate Clinical Professor at U.C. Irvine and a board member of the Orange County Medical Association. He is also a reserve deputy and a tactical physician for a local law enforcement SWAT team. Dr. Barke served as an elected school board member for the Los Alamitos Unified School District for 12 years and is the cofounder and current school board Chair of the free public charter school Orange County Classical Academy. Dr. Barke is married to his high school sweetheart and has two adult children. Dr. Teryn Clarke @MdTeryn Dr. Clarke is a board-certified neurologist. Her focus is on the diagnosis and management of Alzheimer’s Disease and other cognitive disorders. Her mission to educate the community and optimize lifestyle for brain health and general health. The Alzheimer’s Foundation of America selected her as their Dementia Care Professional of the Year in 2015. During the pandemic, she has remained focused on the health and psychological needs of seniors. She is now working within her community to identify and treat deficiencies to boost immune system function in this vulnerable population. Dr. Robert Hamilton Dr. Robert C. Hamilton, M.D. has been a general pediatrician in Santa Monica, CA for 36 years. He studied medicine at UCLA Medical School and did his pediatric residency and Chief Residency at UCLA Medical Center as well. He is a former President of the Los Angeles Pediatric Society. Dr. Hamilton founded ‘Lighthouse Medical Missions’, a volunteer organization that organizes short-term medical missions to Africa, Asia, Central and South America. He has traveled to Africa on medical teams 26 times and his most recent trip was to Colombia to aid Venezuelan refugees leaving their country. He is also the creator of the ‘Hamilton Hold’, a technique for calming crying babies that has been seen by over 44 million viewers worldwide on YouTube. In 2018 he authored 7 Secrets of the Newborn. He has written editorial articles for the Wall Street Journal, and appeared as a television guest on Good Morning America, The Doctor Oz Show, Fox’s Morning Show, Beijing’s CCTV show ‘Challenge Impossible’ and on Fox’ The Ingraham Angle. He has also been a guest on the Dennis Prager radio show and Eric Metaxis’ podcast. Finally, he is the host of his own podcast entitled, ‘The Hamilton Review: Where Kids and Culture Collide’. Dr. Stella Immanuel @stella_immanuel Dr Stella Immanuel is a Cameroonian-American physician currently operating two clinics in Houston Texas: a pediatric clinic and a general practice clinic. She practiced general medicine in Nigeria before immigrating to America to complete her residency as a pediatrician. Over the years she continued to work in the emergency department seeing patients of all ages. She was an early advocate for early treatment of COVID19 patients with hydroxychloroquine, and has treated more than 500 patients with tremendous success, nearly always avoiding the need for hospitalization. Dr. Immanuel is also a minister and the founder of Fire Power Ministries, which seeks to empower all people. She is affectionately known as a warrior for truth, hope and freedom. She can be reached at www.drstella.org Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo Dr. Ladapo, MD, PhD, is a physician and health policy researcher whose primary interests include health economics, technology evaluation, and interventions to reduce cardiovascular disease risk. He is Associate Professor-in-Residence at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA. His research program is funded by the National Institutes of Health, and his writings have appeared in the Washington Post, USA Today, and the Wall Street Journal. Dr. Ladapo graduated from Wake Forest University and received his MD from Harvard Medical School and his PhD in Health Policy from Harvard Graduate School of Arts and Sciences. Dr. Mark McDonald @MMcDonaldMD Dr. McDonald trained in both adult and child & adolescent psychiatry at UCLA and achieved double board certification. For the past eight years, he has also trained in adult psychoanalysis. He now specializes in child and adolescent psychiatry. Dr. McDonald has lived and worked in Europe, Asia, and Central America, and he is proficient in Japanese, Spanish, and French. He studied classical music, history, and literature at UC Berkeley. Before beginning his medical education, he taught in public schools. His opinions on the need to re-open America’s schools have been widely published in local and national news, including the Wall Street Journal and The Federalist. Dr. Geoff Mitchell Dr. Mitchell is a graduate of the Medical College of Ohio and did his post-graduate training at Riverside Methodist Hospital in Columbus, Ohio. He was recently cited by the American Board of Emergency Medicine for his fourth ten-year certification. Dr. Mitchell is a two-time recipient of the Press Ganey Summit Award, the nation’s highest award for patient satisfaction. He was a director of the American Academy of Emergency Medicine and a recipient of that organization’s lifetime achievement Keaney Award. Dr. Mitchell’s work in post-war Kosovo was applauded by the WHO. Fighting health care fraud, he earned a mid-career law degree. Dr. Mitchell is presently focused on his medicolegal work, and has written on improved COVID outcomes in malaria-endemic, sub-Saharan Africa. Dr. Brian Tyson @btysonmd Dr. Brian Tyson is a board certified family practitioner who worked as an emergency physician at Arrowhead Regional Medial center for 13 years as well as working as a hospitalist physician for 14 years before opening his own Urgent Care in 2018. Dr. Tyson was the Program Medical Director for Cogent Healthcare and Beaver medical group. His experience with COVID-19 has been exceptional, with over 17,000 patients evaluated, over 1900 positive cases, only one hospitalization and zero deaths. His urgent care serves a very high-risk population including two nursing homes, and his success was due to his aggressive early management. Due to his proven methodology, he is considered a frontline COVID-19 treatment expert and has been featured on multiple media sites. Dr. Richard Urso @richardursomd Dr. Richard Urso graduated from the University of Texas Houston School of Medicine with highest honors. He completed a residency in ophthalmology then fellowships in Ocular Oncology and Oculofacial surgery. He joined the University of Texas and led the ocular trauma team at both Hermann hospital and LBJ hospital for more than a decade. He frequently presented at Grand rounds and won three best teacher awards. He also spent considerable time in basic science research and developed a novel wound healing model. Dr.Urso patented a treatment which eventually became FDA approved for the treatment of neurotic keratitis. He has a special interest in drug re purposing. Dr. Scott Barbour @drscott_atlanta Dr. Scott Barbour is the founder and owner of Barbour Orthopaedics & Spine with five clinics and a surgery center in Atlanta, Georgia. Dr. Barbour is fellowship-trained in sports medicine (Palo Alto medical foundation). Dr. Barbour has been a team physician for several professional sports teams including the Oakland Raiders, San Jose Sharks, USA Rugby Teams. He is currently the team physician for the Atlanta franchise of Major League Rugby professional rugby team. Dr. Barbour has appeared on numerous radio and television shows. He has published articles and book chapters on Orthopedic surgery and has been an editor for American Journal of Sports Medicine. He currently co-hosts “The Doctors Lounge” podcast on America’s Web Radio and is a board member of Docs4PatientCare foundation. Dr. Jayanta Bhattacharya Dr. Jay Bhattacharya is Professor of Medicine at Stanford University and a research associate at the National Bureau of Economics Research. He holds an MD and PhD in economics, both earned at Stanford University. Dr. Bhattacharya’s research focuses on the health and well-being of vulnerable populations, with a particular emphasis on the role of government programs, biomedical innovation, and economics. Dr. Bhattacharya’s recent research focuses on the epidemiology of COVID-19, as well as an evaluation of policy responses to the epidemic. He has published 135 articles in top peer-reviewed scientific journals in medicine, economics, health policy, epidemiology, statistics, law, and public health among other fields. Dr. Simone Gold, MD, JD @DrSimoneGold Dr. Simone Gold, MD, JD, is a board certified emergency physician. She graduated from Chicago Medical School before attending Stanford University Law School to earn her Juris Doctorate degree. She completed her residency in Emergency Medicine at Stony Brook University Hospital in New York. Dr. Gold worked in Washington D.C. for the Surgeon General, as well as for the Chairman of the Labor & Human Resources Committee. She works as an emergency physician on the front-lines whether or not there is a pandemic. Her clinical work serves all Americans: from urban-inner city, to suburban and the Native American population. Her legal work focuses on policy issues relating to law and medicine. Dr. Kristin Held @kksheld Dr. Kirstin Held is a board-certified ophthalmologist and ophthalmic surgeon. She is a Phi Beta Kappa Graduate from the University of Texas at Austin and received her medical degree from the University of Texas Medical School at San Antonio, where she was elected to AOA. In 2018, she received the Lifetime Achievement Award from the National Association of Women Business Owners in San Antonio. She served on the healthcare advisory team for Dr. Ben Carson during his presidential campaign and is Co-Chair of the Healthcare Advisory Council for Congressman Chip Roy. Dr. Held has had numerous articles published, including in the Washington Times, Houston Chronicle, The Hill, Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons and Dr. Carson’s American Currentsee. She has spoken across the country advocating for the patient-physician relationship and she actively shares healthcare policy information with over 48K followers on Twitter. Dr. Held is married and has four daughters; two are physicians, and two are in business. She is proud to be an 8 year cancer survivor and remains forever grateful to her brilliant physicians and surgeons. Dr. Scott Jensen @drscottjensen Scott Jensen is a lifelong Minnesota. In addition to raising his family and practicing medicine, he published Relationship Matters, The Foundation of Medical Care Is Fracturing, a book which captures real life patient stories to emphasize the critical value of the patient-doctor relationship. In 2016 Dr. Scott Jensen received the very prestigious annual statewide award, Minnesota Family Physician of the Year, from the Minnesota Academy of Family Physicians. In November 2016 Jensen was elected to the Minnesota State Senate. In 2019 Senator Jensen chief authored and presented seven unique bills on the senate floor, including a groundbreaking Pharmacy Benefit Manager bill representing an entirely new chapter of state statute, and all seven bills were passed by the senate unanimously. In 2020 Senator Jensen authored the Insulin Safety Net Bill and under his leadership it passed unanimously and was rapidly signed into law by Governor Walz. Dr. Peter A. McCullough @McCulloughBHVH Dr. McCullough, MD, MPH, completed his medical degree as an Alpha Omega Alpha graduate from the University of Texas Southwestern Medical School in Dallas. He completed his internal medicine residency at the University of Washington in Seattle, cardiology fellowship at William Beaumont Hospital, and master’s degree in public health at the University of Michigan. Dr. McCullough is an internationally recognized authority on the evaluation of medical evidence concerning contemporary issues in medicine and has published widely with > 1000 publications and > 500 citations in the National Library of Medicine. Dr. McCullough has been a leader in the medical response to the COVID-19 disaster and has published the first guidance for the medical treatment of ambulatory (early) patients infected with SARS-CoV-2. Dr. Lee Merritt @FreedomDoc1 Dr. Lee Merritt began her medical career at the age of four, accompanying her father on house-calls along the back roads of Iowa. She graduated from the University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry in New York, where she was elected to life membership in the Alpha Omega Alpha Honor Medical Society. During an internship lecture at Bethesda Naval Hospital she managed to fall asleep directly in front of Dr. Tony Fauci--then a relative unknown in the world of immunology. In spite of that, she completed an Orthopaedic Residency, Spinal Surgery Fellowship, and served ten years as a military surgeon. She is in private practice of Orthopaedic and Spinal Surgery, has served on the Board of the Arizona Medical Associationand she is a lifelong advocate for a patient’s right to choose their own medical care without government intervention, which she discusses in her book Surviving the Medical Meltdown. Dr. James Todaro @JamesTodaroMD Dr. James Todaro received his medical degree from Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York. He then completed his ophthalmology residency. He continues to lead investigative research in COVID-19 on a global scale. He wrote the first widely read paper on chloroquine in treatment of COVID-19 in An Effective Treatment for Coronavirus (COVID-19), and most recently the first detailed exposé on Surgisphere in A Study Out of Thin Air. His early discovery of the fraudulent data investigation led to what is now referred to as #LancetGate - the stunning once-in-a-generation retraction of the now infamous The Lancet study that had led to the European Union and the WHO halting studies of HCQ. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 October 19, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Dan Warnick said: America's Frontline Doctors who bring their frontline experience to the frontline battle for truth in science and medicine. Okay read through them. None specialize in infectious medicine, immunology, epidemiology, or critical care. Quick glace shows one did ER medicine but switched to law, other switched to media (books, Youtube, Dr Oz! LOL). Edited October 19, 2020 by Enthalpic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Enthalpic said: Yeah, look into those "front line doctors." See how many are actually practising covid front line medicine (none). It is statements like your's, which helps to murder to people. There is absolutely no doubt that almost no one needed to die solely by Covid-19. Covid deaths resulted from people trusting authoritarians or resulted from people listening to your ilk. Enthalpic, You directly contribute to needless deaths. 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN October 19, 2020 Another surviving YouTube video by One America News Network... A group of medical experts from around the country are speaking out against misinformation surrounding the coronavirus. The doctors gathered on the Supreme Court steps in the nation’s capitol Saturday morning to inform Americans not to be afraid of the virus. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 October 19, 2020 37 minutes ago, Tom Nolan said: It is statements like your's, which helps to murder to people. There is absolutely no doubt that almost no one needed to die solely by Covid-19. Covid deaths resulted from people trusting authoritarians or resulted from people listening to your ilk. Enthalpic, You directly contribute to needless deaths. I'm not an actual covid authority, a YouTube "authority", nor a politician. I don't even actively communicate covid information other than commenting on disinformation I see here. I have zero blame in this game. These doctors are inappropriately using their medical credentials to act as an authority on subjects outside their field of expertise. Quality physicians do referrals for a reason - they understand they don't know everything. Perhaps all these eye doctors practices have seen fewer patients because of covid precautions... hmmm conflict of interest??? You love conspiracies. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN October 20, 2020 Spread this "America's Frontline Doctors" website. https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/ 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 October 20, 2020 11 hours ago, Tom Nolan said: Another surviving YouTube video by One America News Network... A group of medical experts from around the country are speaking out against misinformation surrounding the coronavirus. The doctors gathered on the Supreme Court steps in the nation’s capitol Saturday morning to inform Americans not to be afraid of the virus. Video cancelled! Imagine that. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0R0 + 6,251 October 20, 2020 21 hours ago, Enthalpic said: I'm not an actual covid authority, a YouTube "authority", nor a politician. I don't even actively communicate covid information other than commenting on disinformation I see here. I have zero blame in this game. These doctors are inappropriately using their medical credentials to act as an authority on subjects outside their field of expertise. Quality physicians do referrals for a reason - they understand they don't know everything. Perhaps all these eye doctors practices have seen fewer patients because of covid precautions... hmmm conflict of interest??? You love conspiracies. You are missing the point that the doctors and actual experts are entirely opposed to the gibberish spouted by political poseurs in authority claiming "science" and then suppressing the actual scientists leading the fields involved. You are siding with the power structure and opposing the facts. You are a victim of brainwashing. You are not alone. The entire progressive wing of the Dems and their authority worshiping center are in your crowd of lemmings in mass hysteria, reinforcing it within their echochambers on social media. They are so fearful of being wrong that they don't allow a challenge to be voiced, even if it is from the actual scientists who practice. It is GPs who handle the vast bulk of CV19 cases as they do with most other infections. The infectious disease specialists see only the more severe and complicated cases. A couple of things to look at WHO paper on scare mongering vs. balanced approach. WHO has acted in opposition to its own recommendations. https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/89/7/11-089086/en/ Leading epidemiologist - not career bureaucrats like Fauci and Redfield points out where to go. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/eci.13423 WHO going back to its long standing recommendations against lockdowns and other idiocies. https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/coronavirus-who-backflips-on-virus-stance-by-condemning-lockdowns/news-story/f2188f2aebff1b7b291b297731c3da74 Some in the organization are noting that they have lost their position of trust with epidemiology, virology, immunology scientists as well as medical practitioners, who are also reversing decades of trust in the FDA CDC and NIH. There is only so much political interference in their field that they can handle, and the officials of public health are miles over their skis.They are facing a backlash that may remove their functions permanently. 2 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0R0 + 6,251 October 20, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, 0R0 said: Leading epidemiologist - not career bureaucrats like Fauci and Redfield points out where to go. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/eci.13423 I should point out that his IFR estimates are closer to my estimates, though still above since he is not adjusting for non antibody immune responses in seroprevalence measurements. T cell responses are 2-3 times more common than antibodies. Average values of 0.15-0.20% for the whole global population and 0.03-0.04% for people <70 years old as of October 2020 The numbers do not qualify CV19 as a pandemic, but a seasonal respiratory infection no more deadly than a flu at this point. Edited October 20, 2020 by 0R0 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN October 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, 0R0 said: The numbers do not qualify CV19 as a pandemic, but a seasonal respiratory infection no more deadly than a flu at this point. "PANDEMIC" - The classification scam It should be highlighted, that way back prior to WHO declaring the official "Pandemic", that they suddenly, quietly changed the definition of Pandemic. With the change, then they declared a "Pandemic". Prior to this definition change, Covid-19 did not qualify as a Pandemic. Dr Wolfgang Wodarg, a German doctor and former member of parliament, played a role in exposing WHO back in 2009 and again with this "epidemic of Covid-19" reclassified as a "Pandemic". 2009 was a well proven scam on the world. "Can We Trust the WHO?" https://www.globalresearch.ca/can-we-trust-who/5708576 WHO exposed: How health body changed pandemic criteria to push agenda THE WHO's investigations into the Swine Flu pandemic of 2009 have since found that the virus was largely overplayed, with many questioning whether it was foul play to push H1N1 onto the global stage as a serious crisis. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1281081/who-world-health-organisation-coronavirus-latest-swine-flu-covid-19-europe-politics-spt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (Of course, I do not expect Enthalpic to actually ready any evidence.) 1 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob D + 562 RD October 20, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Enthalpic said: I'm not an actual covid authority, a YouTube "authority", nor a politician. I don't even actively communicate covid information other than commenting on disinformation I see here. You are so full of sh!t. Read your own BS. You're not an "actual" covid authority?? Well no sh!t. If you're not an "actual" covid authority how would you know what is information vs disinformation? Articulate posts, well documented posts, some by doctors on this site, artfully laying out an argument are countered by you, a nobody, with drivel. But but but maybe the eye doctor is conflicted? That's all you got? You've now decided that a medical professional is conflicted, i.e. lying and intentionally dispensing harmful advise, because he thinks the gov't/media complex is wrong in its approach to covid. These medical professionals couldn't simply have a different opinion than the media. Nope, they have to be attacked. Your parents would be so ashamed. Edited October 20, 2020 by Bob D 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichieRich216 + 454 RK October 20, 2020 Should never of shut down over this, A political stunt by Democrats and China! China should be held accountable for this World Wide! The started the first bio war against the World! 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, 0R0 said: It is GPs who handle the vast bulk of CV19 cases as they do with most other infections. Perhaps but that is not ideal. People around here are told not to go to your family doctor's office if you suspect you have covid. Heck, for a while it was hard to see a family doctor for any reason, which is unfortunate. Covid is managed mostly at dedicated testing facilities or the bigger hospitals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Bob D said: You are so full of sh!t. Read your own BS. You're not an "actual" covid authority?? Well no sh!t. If you're not an "actual" covid authority how would you know what is information vs disinformation? Articulate posts, well documented posts, some by doctors on this site, artfully laying out an argument are countered by you, a nobody, with drivel. But but but maybe the eye doctor is conflicted? That's all you got? You've now decided that a medical professional is conflicted, i.e. lying and intentionally dispensing harmful advise, because he thinks the gov't/media complex is wrong in its approach to covid. These medical professionals couldn't simply have a different opinion than the media. Nope, they have to be attacked. Your parents would be so ashamed. The eye doctor conflict was in jest.... I'm not the one who sees conspiracies in everything. You've decided that the majority of medical professional are dispensing harmful advice. These "front line" people are not disagreeing with the media, they are disagreeing with the medical community at large. They should be careful, if they instruct patients to ignore current best-practices it could be considered malpractice. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Tom Nolan said: (Of course, I do not expect Enthalpic to actually ready any evidence.) I read quality links like the ones 0R0 posted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 October 20, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, 0R0 said: Leading epidemiologist - not career bureaucrats like Fauci and Redfield points out where to go. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/eci.13423 That's a good paper, people should read it. Right now we are around 10% and 1.1 million dead. Note this balanced paper says we need to get to 30 - 60% which is 4.4 to 8.8 million dead. Edited October 20, 2020 by Enthalpic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Enthalpic said: The eye doctor conflict was in jest.... I'm not the one who sees conspiracies in everything. You've decided that the majority of medical professional are dispensing harmful advice. These "front line" people are not disagreeing with the media, they are disagreeing with the medical community at large. They should be careful, if they instruct patients to ignore current best-practices it could be considered malpractice. Perhaps you might think along these lines...the majority of doctors are following corporate/admin established procedures, and have been since the inception of this bug. There are more than a few who are becoming personally angered now that the shock of what happened has worn off. Give this time corporate healthcare have some issue's to deal with, i can tell you there is a simmering rage in the legion of front line responders. Give it time. 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 October 21, 2020 5 hours ago, 0R0 said: You are missing the point that the doctors and actual experts are entirely opposed to the gibberish spouted by political poseurs in authority claiming "science" and then suppressing the actual scientists leading the fields involved. You are siding with the power structure and opposing the facts. You are a victim of brainwashing. You are not alone. The entire progressive wing of the Dems and their authority worshiping center are in your crowd of lemmings in mass hysteria, reinforcing it within their echochambers on social media. They are so fearful of being wrong that they don't allow a challenge to be voiced, even if it is from the actual scientists who practice. It is GPs who handle the vast bulk of CV19 cases as they do with most other infections. The infectious disease specialists see only the more severe and complicated cases. A couple of things to look at WHO paper on scare mongering vs. balanced approach. WHO has acted in opposition to its own recommendations. https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/89/7/11-089086/en/ Leading epidemiologist - not career bureaucrats like Fauci and Redfield points out where to go. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/eci.13423 WHO going back to its long standing recommendations against lockdowns and other idiocies. https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/coronavirus-who-backflips-on-virus-stance-by-condemning-lockdowns/news-story/f2188f2aebff1b7b291b297731c3da74 Some in the organization are noting that they have lost their position of trust with epidemiology, virology, immunology scientists as well as medical practitioners, who are also reversing decades of trust in the FDA CDC and NIH. There is only so much political interference in their field that they can handle, and the officials of public health are miles over their skis.They are facing a backlash that may remove their functions permanently. Thank you both for this perspective and for the links to the literature. Very informative. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 October 21, 2020 On 10/19/2020 at 11:40 PM, Dan Warnick said: We all know that we need to listen to the Doctors, not the Billionaires, not Big Tech and sure as heck not the politicians. I never ask anyone, ever, to spread and share videos or other media, but please share this with your family and friends. @Tom Nolan shared this video here first. After watching it, I was preparing an email to my brother and to my surprise I got a message from him with the following link, directly to America's Frontline Doctors asking me to check out their website. America's Frontline Doctors - Safely Start Living Again! Another YouTube video wiped off the map. I abhor censorship! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN October 21, 2020 (edited) What is notable, from official government agency websites, is that there are VERY, VERY FEW treatment options for Covid-19 (officially). In fact, most people who do get sick are first sent home until they have severe symptoms, at which time, they go to the hospital. Even at the hospital, in the beginning, often they are just isolated and given IV drips of Tylenol and antibiotics. Ironically, Tylenol and Ibuprofen have been shown to dynamically worsen Covid symptoms. Antibiotics are in case of a bacterial respiratory infection, not for a virus. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What are the official treatment options for COVID-19? by the Associated Press FACT CHECK. https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-us-news-9a7da4a9e84906b856c15101dd200c80 which links to the “official government” NIH (National Institute of Health) version… https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapeutic-management/ The NIH strains at poo-pooing nutrients like Vitamin C, D and zinc, much less alternatives such as hydroxychloroquine or even the effective budesonide. It is no wonder that American public health is in shambles. FULL TEXT from AP What are the treatment options for COVID-19? There are several, and which one is best depends on how sick someone is. For example, steroids such as dexamethasone can lower the risk of dying for severely ill patients. But they may do the opposite for those who are only mildly ill. In the United States, no treatments are specifically approved for COVID-19, but a few have been authorized for emergency use and several more are being considered. A panel of experts convened by the National Institutes of Health updates guidelines as new studies come out. Here’s what’s advised for various patients: — Not hospitalized or hospitalized but not needing extra oxygen: No specific drugs recommended, and a warning against using steroids. — Hospitalized and needing extra oxygen but not a breathing machine: The antiviral drug remdesivir, given through an IV, and in some cases also a steroid. — Hospitalized and on a breathing machine: Remdesivir and a steroid. What about convalescent plasma, an infusion of blood from a COVID-19 survivor that contains antibodies that fight the virus? Not enough is known to recommend for or against it, the guidelines say. However, enough is known to advise against hydroxychloroquine and certain drugs that affect the immune system — multiple studies have found them ineffective against the coronavirus. Aside from drugs, doctors have learned more about ways to treat hospitalized patients, such as putting them on their bellies and other measures that may prevent the need for breathing machines. Edited October 21, 2020 by Tom Nolan 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN October 21, 2020 On 10/19/2020 at 1:39 PM, Tom Nolan said: America’s Frontline Doctors On 10/19/2020 at 1:39 PM, Tom Nolan said: https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/ I expect YOUTUBE to CENSOR this video like they did months ago. You can watch the video on Bitchute here... https://www.bitchute.com/video/jwieGLuR8yXB/ or here... https://www.bitchute.com/video/kZ0mYQfEPuPu/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN October 21, 2020 On Saturday September 17th, America's Frontline Doctors had the public Press Release at the Supreme Court in D.C. However, they also had a "symposium".. Here is one of the talks by a Psychiatrist where he points out (around 3:40 mark) that people like Enthalpic have a mental illness... Delusional Psychosis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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