Terpene Sensor Easter Egg Hunt

[Meredith Poor + 895]

Terpenes are hydrocarbons synthesized by plants. The 'pine smell' is something called α-pinene. There are a dozen others, mostly that contribute aroma or flavor to gardens, food, or beverages. As an interesting Easter egg hunt, find vendors selling these SENSORS to consumers. Depending on your disposition, what you find may be amusing, alarming, or disgusting.

Post whatever you find here.

Discuss.

Edited October 27, 2020 by Meredith Poor
Realized sentence was proposing the wrong thing.

[specinho + 470]

51 minutes ago, Meredith Poor said:

Terpenes are hydrocarbons synthesized by plants. The 'pine smell' is something called α-pinene. There are a dozen others, mostly that contribute aroma or flavor to gardens, food, or beverages. As an interesting Easter egg hunt, find vendors selling these to consumers. Depending on your disposition, what you find may be amusing, alarming, or disgusting.

Post whatever you find here.

Discuss.

Do you mean Halloween hunt?

[Tom Nolan + 2,443]

I use Orange Oil (d-limonene) as a natural pesticide.  It melts ants on contact.  Smells great!  I mix about 2 ounces of orange oil to a liter or more of water in a spray bottle.  Put in a squirt of dishwashing soap to help it mix. 

For outside, with a bucket to drench an ant bed or when using with a yard sprayer, I add molasses.  It 'sticks' better and helps the microbial soil action.

As a supplement, I will sometimes take it for general health.  It has been shown to help prevent pancreatic cancer in one study, plus it has many other benefits.  Some people swear that it helps with blood sugar levels.

https://www.jarrow.com/product/506/d-Limonene

Edited October 27, 2020 by Tom Nolan

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

Sorry to interrupt your topic, @Meredith Poor, but I'd really like to know if anyone knows anything about Aloe Vera supplements?  I have been suffering through a long drawn out, painful process of recovery for an ankle condition that resulted in missing tissue on the outside of my left ankle.  The doctors have prescribe pain killers and I've taken them to the point of being worried about continuing on with them due to the risk of internal organ damage or worse.  As far as treatment of the wound itself, the doctors have limited options (keep it clean, apply something like Neosporin, wrap with gauze, and repeat).  It is a slow process and very painful due to nerve damage from the tissue loss.  After consulting with our doctor and his pharmacist-wife today about the pain killers, my wife and I decided to steer away from them as much as possible and try raw Aloe Vera to treat the wound, and hopefully ease the pain topically, which we have growing in abundance on our property.  Don't know why we didn't think of it earlier, but it is what it is.  The Aloe produced rather instantaneous results on the surrounding skin which was raw from multiple bandaging and a round of injections during a one-time debriding.  There is a lot of scientific study into Aloe Vera, more than much of what is available for this type of condition from Big Pharma, and it is working very well so far (1 day).  We'll see if it helps me turn the corner on healing the wound.

Anyway, that research led me to information about Aloe Vera supplements for muscle cell regeneration, etc.  The promoters are enthusiastic and have the products ready to "cure what ails you!" but I did a quick check in the Mayo Clinic's website and they say these supplements are unproven and even, in their esteemed opinion, potentially quite dangerous.  So I wanted to know if any of you guys have any experience and/or knowledge of their efficacy or dangers?

Again, my apologies for hijacking your thread.

[Meredith Poor + 895]

3 hours ago, Tom Nolan said:

I use Orange Oil (d-limonene) as a natural pesticide.  It melts ants on contact.  Smells great!  I mix about 2 ounces of orange oil to a liter or more of water in a spray bottle.  Put in a squirt of dishwashing soap to help it mix. 

For outside, with a bucket to drench an ant bed or when using with a yard sprayer, I add molasses.  It 'sticks' better and helps the microbial soil action.

As a supplement, I will sometimes take it for general health.  It has been shown to help prevent pancreatic cancer in one study, plus it has many other benefits.  Some people swear that it helps with blood sugar levels.

https://www.jarrow.com/product/506/d-Limonene

I've edited the post, since I realized the way the sentence read I was proposing the wrong thing. Look up Terpene Sensors.

 

[Meredith Poor + 895]

14 minutes ago, Dan Warnick said:

Sorry to interrupt your topic, @Meredith Poor, but I'd really like to know if anyone knows anything about Aloe Vera supplements?  I have been suffering through a long drawn out, painful process of recovery for an ankle condition that resulted in missing tissue on the outside of my left ankle.  The doctors have prescribe pain killers and I've taken them to the point of being worried about continuing on with them due to the risk of internal organ damage or worse.  As far as treatment of the wound itself, the doctors have limited options (keep it clean, apply something like Neosporin, wrap with gauze, and repeat).  It is a slow process and very painful due to nerve damage from the tissue loss.  After consulting with our doctor and his pharmacist-wife today about the pain killers, my wife and I decided to steer away from them as much as possible and try raw Aloe Vera to treat the wound, and hopefully ease the pain topically, which we have growing in abundance on our property.  Don't know why we didn't think of it earlier, but it is what it is.  The Aloe produced rather instantaneous results on the surrounding skin which was raw from multiple bandaging and a round of injections during a one-time debriding.  There is a lot of scientific study into Aloe Vera, more than much of what is available for this type of condition from Big Pharma, and it is working very well so far (1 day).  We'll see if it helps me turn the corner on healing the wound.

Anyway, that research led me to information about Aloe Vera supplements for muscle cell regeneration, etc.  The promoters are enthusiastic and have the products ready to "cure what ails you!" but I did a quick check in the Mayo Clinic's website and they say these supplements are unproven and even, in their esteemed opinion, potentially quite dangerous.  So I wanted to know if any of you guys have any experience and/or knowledge of their efficacy or dangers?

Again, my apologies for hijacking your thread.

Unfortunately, I don't know anything about that. 'Enthusiastic promoters' are a problem if they're selling what they're promoting. If there are any government pages that discuss Aloe Vera, they might be far more objective.

[Tom Nolan + 2,443]

1 hour ago, Dan Warnick said:

Sorry to interrupt your topic, @Meredith Poor, but I'd really like to know if anyone knows anything about Aloe Vera supplements?  I have been suffering through a long drawn out, painful process of recovery for an ankle condition that resulted in missing tissue on the outside of my left ankle.  The doctors have prescribe pain killers and I've taken them to the point of being worried about continuing on with them due to the risk of internal organ damage or worse.  As far as treatment of the wound itself, the doctors have limited options (keep it clean, apply something like Neosporin, wrap with gauze, and repeat).  It is a slow process and very painful due to nerve damage from the tissue loss.  After consulting with our doctor and his pharmacist-wife today about the pain killers, my wife and I decided to steer away from them as much as possible and try raw Aloe Vera to treat the wound, and hopefully ease the pain topically, which we have growing in abundance on our property.  Don't know why we didn't think of it earlier, but it is what it is.  The Aloe produced rather instantaneous results on the surrounding skin which was raw from multiple bandaging and a round of injections during a one-time debriding.  There is a lot of scientific study into Aloe Vera, more than much of what is available for this type of condition from Big Pharma, and it is working very well so far (1 day).  We'll see if it helps me turn the corner on healing the wound.

Anyway, that research led me to information about Aloe Vera supplements for muscle cell regeneration, etc.  The promoters are enthusiastic and have the products ready to "cure what ails you!" but I did a quick check in the Mayo Clinic's website and they say these supplements are unproven and even, in their esteemed opinion, potentially quite dangerous.  So I wanted to know if any of you guys have any experience and/or knowledge of their efficacy or dangers?

Again, my apologies for hijacking your thread.

That is so cool that you have had success with Aloe.  So, so cool.  I have Aloe gel in my cabinet.  It certainly is safe, and many people drink it (made for drinking kind).  Probably the only caveat is you don't want to transfer unwanted microbes to any open wounds.  I sometimes use a pinch of gel & water to help keep my hair in place, to keep it parted correctly.

Personally, I don't put much stock into mainstream medical protocols when it comes to alternative choices to Pharma. 

With my Biological-Chem & Toxicology background via my Environmental Science degree, following the 2008 crash in real estate, I took a job in the Vitamin/Supplement Department of a Whole Foods type grocery store.  Every day I would personally talk to and help more than 100 customers for 3 years.  I printed out file drawers of scientific studies regarding herbs and supplements and even spent my off hours and weekends reading and studying.

I got feedback from the thousands of people I would see.  I am 100% sure that many alternative natural products and methods can produce miraculous results.  There is no doubt.  I personally have tested and taken many supplements following the scientific literature, especially when the paper had some kind of cool tidbit to it.

Besides Aloe...Here are a few natural topical pain relievers.  Arnica cream.  Topricin cream.  These a good.  These are homeopathic, so the active ingredient is so diluted that a person would question "What?" - There are oral tablets (under the tongue) homeopathic pain relievers...with some folks they work well and others they don't, depending upon the exact symptoms.  Homeopathic remedies never interfere with any prescription medications, and never expire, because they are a diluted substance.

There are "Hot Pepper" (capscaicin) patches and cream.  Hot pepper topically can shift how the pain receptors of the body works.

Menthol rubs are sometimes used.

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There are some good alternative, integrative medicine treatments for wound regeneration or for getting rid of infections.  A lot of sports people use them, because they work.

I had a friend who had an infection in her hip and leg.  She saw specialists for 7 years, but they could not get rid of the infection.  She was scheduled for surgery after the Christmas/New Year Holidays to have her foot cut off.  She had one $300 treatment of Ultraviolet Light and Ozone Blood Therapies on Christmas Eve.  After the New Year, she went in to have the foot cut off.  Prior, the surgeon said that they better do one last test to see where the infection had migrated to.  ...there was NO INFECTION...NONE.  They couldn't find anything.

I do this therapy every so often just to help my immune system.  I did it in early March 2020, just prior to all the Covid lockdown madness.  I understand the mechanisms involved and why it works.

I am in my late 60's.  I do not take any pharmaceutical prescription drug and haven't for many many decades, except for occasional antibiotics when needed.

Reading the attachment at the following link is pretty cool.

"Ultraviolet Light and Ozone Blood Therapies" at the Homeland Security Science and Technology section.

https://homelandsecurity.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Ultraviolet-Light-Blood-Therapy-and-Ozone-Blood-Therapy-with-superb-treatment-successes-around-the-world-currently/554906-34944

 

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

12 minutes ago, Tom Nolan said:

Besides Aloe...Here are a few natural topical pain relievers.  Arnica cream.  Topricin cream.  These a good.  These are homeopathic, so the active ingredient is so diluted that a person would question "What?" - There are oral tablets (under the tongue) homeopathic pain relievers...with some folks they work well and others they don't, depending upon the exact symptoms.  Homeopathic remedies never interfere with any prescription medications, and never expire, because they are a diluted substance.

Thanks @Tom Nolan.  A lot to digest, pardon the pun.

I am very interested to find a topical pain reliever cream.  Specifically for wounds where there is a loss of tissue, like about a dime size across and 3/8" deep.  The Aloe does have a bit of soothing effect but it is short lived.  The pain I am having right this moment is pretty bad.  The docs say this type of affliction will take quite a while to heal and since I have Edema it makes it worse.  I am in Thailand, so sometimes name brand American stuff is not available, but I can get Amazon even though it takes a week or two, depending.  I hate pain pills and their associated risks.

Any ideas?

[Enthalpic + 1,496]

4 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

 As far as treatment of the wound itself, the doctors have limited options (keep it clean, apply something like Neosporin, wrap with gauze, and repeat).  It is a slow process and very painful due to nerve damage from the tissue loss. 

Sorry to hear that.  I don't think aloe will help.  However, I have seen amazing wound healing results with plain honey, although I've never used it personally.  I was a massive skeptic until I saw weekly pictures from a surgeon who extensively uses it in his practice.  Nasty, nasty stuff like Fournier gangrene and deep diabetic ulcers progressively improved. Blew my mind.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=wound+honey

Good luck.

 

Edited October 27, 2020 by Enthalpic

[Tom Nolan + 2,443]

13 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

Thanks @Tom Nolan.  A lot to digest, pardon the pun.

I am very interested to find a topical pain reliever cream.  Specifically for wounds where there is a loss of tissue, like about a dime size across and 3/8" deep.  The Aloe does have a bit of soothing effect but it is short lived.  The pain I am having right this moment is pretty bad.  The docs say this type of affliction will take quite a while to heal and since I have Edema it makes it worse.  I am in Thailand, so sometimes name brand American stuff is not available, but I can get Amazon even though it takes a week or two, depending.  I hate pain pills and their associated risks.

Any ideas?

You might want to do some research.  https://www.mercola.com/

Mercola has been around for over 2 decades, and I have been reading the articles since before "Google" existed.

Dr. Mercola interviews many, many health professionals and follows the scientific literature.

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I know that Integrative Medicine Doctors are in Thailand.   

Use these keywords: 

Integrative Medicine

Holistic Medicine

Homeopathic Medicine

Ozone and IV Therapy

Some folks have success with acupuncture or Traditional Chinese Medicine TCM and Herbs (herbalists).

(I have a friend in his early 80's who I occasionally see when he is in the states, who is in the region (in an out as he lives on a large island).  He was supposed to die of an incurable bone cancer more than 20 years ago.  He told me about his Thailand Doctor. )

You can make your own pain-relief compress with ground hot pepper.

Comfrey is a plant I grow in my small garden.  As a compress, it helps the body, especially bones, to heal.

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

Ground hot pepper sounds so counter-inuitive for pain treatment!  Thais love chilis, especially my wife.  She can eat chilis, a type that could be used to fuel the Space Shuttle, as you and I might have crackers with soup!  Could you be more specific about what kind of ground pepper?  Do tell me more, please.

I will look at the other suggestions you list.  I am aware that there are many holistic and herbal medicine specialists and spas around the country that offer all of the treatments you list.  I've always been leery due to scammers, which is probably a wise way to be, within limits of course, but I will look at them again now.

Update since yesterday:

Yesterday (Tue) my wife and I talked about and agreed to switching to using Aloe Vera from plants growing in our yard.  Reason for this is because the current regime of cleaning, applying normal Neosporin, and wrapping in gauze, is not working very fast, and the terrible pain persists after many weeks.  We both are aware of how well Aloe Vera works for minor burns and it is still the go-to "salve" in the villages around Thailand.

As luck would have it, I also received a new supply of Neosporin yesterday that I had ordered a week or so ago.  This Neosporin is different than the one we had been using as this is the one that claims it includes "Pain, Itch and Scar Treatment".  The active ingredients suggest this is true, but we'll see.

We carried out the first "round" of the new regime of Aloe Vera yesterday (Tue) at about 3 p.m. (it's now 8 p.m. Wed).  Pain from the skin area about 2-3 inches around the wound started to feel less painful right away and the wound itself was less painful for a short while.  Pain then returned "deep" inside the wound itself where it usually resides.

We repeated the Aloe regime before bedtime, although I ended up not sleeping all night due to lingering pain which came in shooting spasms throughout the night.  That kind of pain has actually become my "new normal" and I'll admit it discouraged me about the Aloe, even though I wasn't expecting immediate miraculous relief (although we let ourselves have hope!).  I took pain pills when it was too intense but noticed I did not need a dose as often.

This morning at about 05:30 I woke my wife and asked her to change my dressing.  The pain both in the wound and the surrounding skin was pretty intense.  This time she cleaned as usual and I asked her to try the new Pain, Itch and Scar Treatment Neosporin instead of the Aloe Vera.  That actually reduced the pain fairly well and got better and better as the morning progressed.  I was able to sleep, twice, during the day and into the evening and awoke with no pain at about 7 p.m.

At 7:30 p.m. (1.5 hours ago), even though I now had no pain, I asked my wife to change my dressing and use the Aloe Vera again this time.  Well, there was pain during the cleaning, which is to be expected, but within a half an hour the pain had subsided quite a bit.  And now there is only a dull pain inside the wound.  Since I've been typing this, that pain has subsided as well.

If the pain returns, I will ask her to use the new Neosporin again and then switch back to the Aloe Vera for the next dressing change.  Oh, BTW!  I have not had to take any pain medication all day!  That's a first in many weeks.  I'm letting hope creep back in.....

[Enthalpic + 1,496]

21 hours ago, Tom Nolan said:

Besides Aloe...Here are a few natural topical pain relievers.  Arnica cream.  Topricin cream.  These a good.  These are homeopathic, so the active ingredient is so diluted that a person would question "What?" - There are oral tablets (under the tongue) homeopathic pain relievers...with some folks they work well and others they don't, depending upon the exact symptoms.  Homeopathic remedies never interfere with any prescription medications, and never expire, because they are a diluted substance.

 

Homeopathy is garbage, you say it yourself, the original substance (that may have medical properties) is so diluted it essentially is not present.

Give me $50.00,  I will hand you back 1.00$ and tell you it still retains all the properties of the original $50.  50x homeopathic investing.

 

FYI You can get real Arnica cream.

 

 

 

Edited October 28, 2020 by Enthalpic

[Tom Nolan + 2,443]

On 10/28/2020 at 8:55 AM, Dan Warnick said:

At 7:30 p.m. (1.5 hours ago), even though I now had no pain, I asked my wife to change my dressing and use the Aloe Vera again this time.  Well, there was pain during the cleaning, which is to be expected, but within a half an hour the pain had subsided quite a bit.  And now there is only a dull pain inside the wound.  Since I've been typing this, that pain has subsided as well.

If the pain returns, I will ask her to use the new Neosporin again and then switch back to the Aloe Vera for the next dressing change.  Oh, BTW!  I have not had to take any pain medication all day!  That's a first in many weeks.  I'm letting hope creep back in.....

That is great news!  Progress!

Preventing and warding off infection (Neosporin) seems paramount to me.

Do what works for you.  That is always the bottom line.

To make your own topical "hot pepper" cream, just mix some ground hot pepper powder or juices with a cream of your choice.  Apply it to another part of your body to test it.  "Substance P" is a whole topic in itself and there is some cool science surrounding the topic...even a guy getting kicked HARD in the balls who had developed a Substance P body reaction which made him less susceptible to the pain.

This is a 5 minute video by a Doctor on topicals.  It includes hot pepper - capsaicin.

 

[Tom Nolan + 2,443]

23 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

Homeopathy is garbage

You are no expert on alternative treatments.  You have had no experience with thousands of people, nor any medical and bio-chem training.  I have.

Enthalpic, you are the biggest minion for the Mega-Rich Billionaires and are always pushing their agendas.

Research what is in Topricin you dweeb.

Edited October 29, 2020 by Tom Nolan

[Enthalpic + 1,496]

1 hour ago, Tom Nolan said:

You are no expert on alternative treatments.  You have had no experience with thousands of people, nor any medical and bio-chem training.  I have.

Enthalpic, you are the biggest minion for the Mega-Rich Billionaires and are always pushing their agendas.

Research what is in Topricin you dweeb.

LOL I'm literally a chemist.

I'm fine with alternative treatments if they have a basis in science (nutritional supplementation etc.)

I suggested simple honey for his wound... it works, it's natural, it's cheap.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=wound+honey

 

 

Edited October 29, 2020 by Enthalpic