Making diamonds from thin air

[Rob Plant + 2,756]

Now this is what you call thinking outside the box.

This guy is making diamonds from carbon in the atmosphere!

That's a negative carbon footprint so it should make the greens happy and doesn't have all that nasty mining damage that takes place in conventional mines.

Ingenious!

https://news.sky.com/story/eco-friendly-diamonds-developed-using-carbon-sucked-from-the-air-bling-without-the-sting-12118523

[Meredith Poor + 895]

3 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

Now this is what you call thinking outside the box.

This guy is making diamonds from carbon in the atmosphere!

That's a negative carbon footprint so it should make the greens happy and doesn't have all that nasty mining damage that takes place in conventional mines.

Ingenious!

https://news.sky.com/story/eco-friendly-diamonds-developed-using-carbon-sucked-from-the-air-bling-without-the-sting-12118523

While not exactly 'old' news, it's been around for a decade or more.

https://diamondfoundry.com/

[Rob Plant + 2,756]

Not really different technology!

These are the worlds first "zero impact" diamonds ie carbon negative

[Marcin2 + 725]

26 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

Not really different technology!

These are the worlds first "zero impact" diamonds ie carbon negative

Not really.

Technology is old, and it uses a lot of energy in order to apply huge pressure to carbon to make diamonds out of it.

Competitive edge of Mr. Vince are only his good marketing and PR team and good lawyers, this I can admit.

PR and marketing team made it possible to get publicity via sky news.

And good lawyers prevented obvious libel lawsuits.

Just analyze, carefully, the quote below, taken from the article:

"Mr Vince said:

"The entire ingredient list comes from the sky and it's not just low or zero carbon,

it's actually negative carbon in that respect,

because we're locking up atmospheric carbon into a very permanent form of carbon, the diamond. ""

So in order to make 10 carats of diamonds (2g) Mr Vince:

-takes 2 g carbon from atmospheric air ("the ingeredients")

- uses 1000,000g of carbon (1,000 kg) for the process

- uses 5,000 g of carbon for the installation to capture carbon from air.

So "Mr. Vince technology" has 1,005,000 g carbon footprint.

Whereas His competition:

-uses 2 g of carbon  ("the ingeredients")

- uses 1,000,000g of carbon (1,000 kg) for the process

So their carbon footprint is 1,000,002 g for the process.

 

 

Edited October 30, 2020 by Marcin2
typo

[Rob Plant + 2,756]

Marcin I concede you have shown me up to be the utopian fool I am 😂

[Meredith Poor + 895]

On 10/30/2020 at 12:42 PM, Marcin2 said:

Not really.

Technology is old, and it uses a lot of energy in order to apply huge pressure to carbon to make diamonds out of it.

Competitive edge of Mr. Vince are only his good marketing and PR team and good lawyers, this I can admit.

PR and marketing team made it possible to get publicity via sky news.

And good lawyers prevented obvious libel lawsuits.

Just analyze, carefully, the quote below, taken from the article:

"Mr Vince said:

"The entire ingredient list comes from the sky and it's not just low or zero carbon,

it's actually negative carbon in that respect,

because we're locking up atmospheric carbon into a very permanent form of carbon, the diamond. ""

So in order to make 10 carats of diamonds (2g) Mr Vince:

-takes 2 g carbon from atmospheric air ("the ingeredients")

- uses 1000,000g of carbon (1,000 kg) for the process

- uses 5,000 g of carbon for the installation to capture carbon from air.

So "Mr. Vince technology" has 1,005,000 g carbon footprint.

Whereas His competition:

-uses 2 g of carbon  ("the ingeredients")

- uses 1,000,000g of carbon (1,000 kg) for the process

So their carbon footprint is 1,000,002 g for the process.

 

 

Synthetic diamonds are made from CVD (Chemical Vapor Deposition). This is in a high vacuum, low pressure plasma environment. Someone needs to explain what the 1,000,000 grams is all about.

[Gerry Maddoux + 3,627]

What's wrong with the kimberlite pipe?

CO2 + H2O coming up from the magma at supersonic speed--->diamonds!

Diamond pipes shot out diamonds in various places. 

Glacial moraines carried some of them from Canada to Indiana (glacial erratics). 

Think of it: A kimberlite pipe could shoot diamonds out into your back lawn tomorrow! At about Mach 4. 

[frankfurter + 562]

39 minutes ago, Meredith Poor said:

Synthetic diamonds are made from CVD (Chemical Vapor Deposition). This is in a high vacuum, low pressure plasma environment. Someone needs to explain what the 1,000,000 grams is all about.

The 1mm would relate to the energy needed to create the plasma needed for the CVD process. If the energy needed were non-carbon based, then the claim of negative CO2 might be valid.

Diamonds are a marketing phenomenon: ie psychological. Subsequent generations of women, and men, may not see the need or 'beauty' of a diamond adornment.  But synthetic 'industrial' diamonds may have a place in the market.

Wanna try your own? ...

https://www.instructables.com/How-to-Make-a-Synthetic-Diamond/

 

 

[Meredith Poor + 895]

15 hours ago, frankfurter said:

The 1mm would relate to the energy needed to create the plasma needed for the CVD process. If the energy needed were non-carbon based, then the claim of negative CO2 might be valid.

Diamonds are a marketing phenomenon: ie psychological. Subsequent generations of women, and men, may not see the need or 'beauty' of a diamond adornment.  But synthetic 'industrial' diamonds may have a place in the market.

Wanna try your own? ...

https://www.instructables.com/How-to-Make-a-Synthetic-Diamond/

 

 

If you make diamonds using this kind of process, it's going to be wasteful. A 'real' CVD reactor wouldn't expend anything like that amount of energy for the yield. CVD reactors pump most of the air out of their chambers so that the energy is focused on the material that counts.

[Michael Sanches + 187]

On 10/30/2020 at 7:12 AM, Rob Plant said:

Now this is what you call thinking outside the box.

This guy is making diamonds from carbon in the atmosphere!

That's a negative carbon footprint so it should make the greens happy and doesn't have all that nasty mining damage that takes place in conventional mines.

Ingenious!

https://news.sky.com/story/eco-friendly-diamonds-developed-using-carbon-sucked-from-the-air-bling-without-the-sting-12118523

This has to be fake news. If it was true, it would have been included as one of the 150,000 variables (149,800 of them unknown) in the climate change models. And we know that the climate change models are holy, complete, and never wrong.