Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN November 19, 2020 ...The heart of the issue (for those who need it elaborated) is this: the future of $90 trillion of energy infrastructure investments and the $1 trillion green bond market and the multi-trillion dollar carbon trading market and the $391 billion (and growing) climate finance industry hangs in the balance. ... ... It’s why Enron and Goldman Sachs pioneered the emissions trading swindles (that–surprise, surprise!–are a complete and total fraud from top to bottom). It’s why General Electric, DuPont, Johnson & Johnson, Pepsi, Siemens, AIG and a host of other Fortune 500/CFR companies joined BP, ConocoPhillips, GM and a host of other oiligarch companies as founding members of the US Climate Action Partnership whose “Blueprint for Legislative Action” became the backbone of the Wall Street-backed Waxman-Markey bill of 2009. It’s why the Rockefellers and Rothschilds are at the forefront of the climate hysteria. It’s why over 400 global institutional investors worth over $25 trillion have decided to cash in on the bonanza with their “Investment Platform for Climate Actions.” Heck, it’s why EDF, Engie, Air France, Renault, BNP Paribas and a host of other oiligarch companies footed 20% of the bill for the Paris conference itself (and why the French government bent over backwards to point out their “green” credentials). Take just one structural element of the climate swindle: the Green Climate Fund. Never heard of it? Hardly surprising. It’s just the facility through which the UN is expected to be clearing $100 billion in climate funding per year by the end of the decade. That’s right: $100 billion per year. Every year.... https://www.corbettreport.com/and-now-for-the-100-trillion-dollar-bankster-climate-swindle/ CREO Syndicate - Clean, Renewable and Environmental Opportunities (8 minute video about CREO) https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1599-new-world-next-week-with-james-evan-pilato/ Story #1: Secretive Club For Ultra-Wealthy Environmentalists Revealed The Secret Club for Billionaires Who Care About Climate Change CREO Syndicate: Clean, Renewable and Environmental Opportunities Flashback: Elites ‘Secret’ Meeting Discussed Depopulation (May 27, 2009) And Now For The 100 Trillion Dollar Bankster Climate Swindle… How & Why Big Oil Conquered The World B23-0171 – Minor Consent for Vaccinations Amendment Act of 2019 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 November 19, 2020 It's nice, although a bit scary, to wake up from a long slumber from time to time, isn't it? 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markslawson + 1,057 ML November 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Tom Nolan said: .. It’s why Enron and Goldman Sachs pioneered the emissions trading swindles (that–surprise, surprise!–are a complete and total fraud from top to bottom). Tom - I'm not against what you say so much as puzzled by it. The emissions trading swindle link is to a 2007 article which cites the Chicago Climate Exchange. Wikipedia tells me the CCX went out of business in 2010. There was a lot of fraud in the European Union ETS but that was mainly messing with the Value Added Taxes in different countries rather than anything directly to do with carbon, and I was under the impression it had been cleaned up.. As for the rest I don't understand your post.. maybe have another go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 November 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, markslawson said: Tom - I'm not against what you say so much as puzzled by it. The emissions trading swindle link is to a 2007 article which cites the Chicago Climate Exchange. Wikipedia tells me the CCX went out of business in 2010. There was a lot of fraud in the European Union ETS but that was mainly messing with the Value Added Taxes in different countries rather than anything directly to do with carbon, and I was under the impression it had been cleaned up.. As for the rest I don't understand your post.. maybe have another go. Just because the swindle failed doesn't mean they didn't try. They needed the govt to pass that Bill, but it didn't. Without the bill the market was "voluntary". Needless to say, a voluntary carbon credit exchange is about as useless as tits on a boar. To quote a famous Texan. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN November 20, 2020 This post definitely fits here... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markslawson + 1,057 ML November 20, 2020 7 hours ago, Tom Nolan said: This post definitely fits here... 22 hours ago, Ward Smith said: Just because the swindle failed doesn't mean they didn't try. They needed the govt to pass that Bill, but it didn't. Without the bill the market was "voluntary". Needless to say, a voluntary carbon credit exchange is about as useless as tits on a boar. To quote a famous Texan. Guys I think we're all fellow travelers, although I'm still puzzled by the posts, I think you mean the green sector is full of swindles.. it certainly is.. anyway, leave it with you.. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, markslawson said: Guys I think we're all fellow travelers, although I'm still puzzled by the posts, I think you mean the green sector is full of swindles.. it certainly is.. anyway, leave it with you.. The bigger point is that you've got individuals collectively worth trillions who are likely sociopaths. They can drive the price of oil down after they've shorted the major oil companies and collect on both ends. They can force institutional investors to divest from big oil, which further adds to their trillions as part of the Big Short, after they all piled into Tesla and other green companies, and that capital attracts the institutional investors to follow (because they can't stay with oil now) and this (non) virtuous circle continues, spinning along accelerating their immense wealth gains at the expense of millions of innocent bystanders, about whom they care nothing. Eventually, they'll probably play the Emperor's new clothes panic and sell and short sell the pumped up stocks, sticking it to institutional investors yet again (who aren't even playing with their own money but losing pension funds and 401k's). Lather rinse repeat. 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichieRich216 + 454 RK November 21, 2020 This is just another fruad being started by the globalist! The WORLD DEBT stands a almost 273 TRILLION DOLLARS, and these assclowns want to make another financial instrument to enrich themselves! This will end badly. The fossil fuels are plentyfull and cheaply resorsed and these blind useful idiots around the globe are buying into this. Anyone wanting to see the end of the WORLD, keep going down this assanine road to rid the world of fossil fuels! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN November 21, 2020 16 hours ago, RichieRich216 said: This will end badly. Amen. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 November 22, 2020 On 11/19/2020 at 12:38 PM, Tom Nolan said: ...The heart of the issue (for those who need it elaborated) is this: the future of $90 trillion of energy infrastructure investments and the $1 trillion green bond market and the multi-trillion dollar carbon trading market and the $391 billion (and growing) climate finance industry hangs in the balance. ... ... It’s why Enron and Goldman Sachs pioneered the emissions trading swindles (that–surprise, surprise!–are a complete and total fraud from top to bottom). It’s why General Electric, DuPont, Johnson & Johnson, Pepsi, Siemens, AIG and a host of other Fortune 500/CFR companies joined BP, ConocoPhillips, GM and a host of other oiligarch companies as founding members of the US Climate Action Partnership whose “Blueprint for Legislative Action” became the backbone of the Wall Street-backed Waxman-Markey bill of 2009. It’s why the Rockefellers and Rothschilds are at the forefront of the climate hysteria. It’s why over 400 global institutional investors worth over $25 trillion have decided to cash in on the bonanza with their “Investment Platform for Climate Actions.” Heck, it’s why EDF, Engie, Air France, Renault, BNP Paribas and a host of other oiligarch companies footed 20% of the bill for the Paris conference itself (and why the French government bent over backwards to point out their “green” credentials). Take just one structural element of the climate swindle: the Green Climate Fund. Never heard of it? Hardly surprising. It’s just the facility through which the UN is expected to be clearing $100 billion in climate funding per year by the end of the decade. That’s right: $100 billion per year. Every year.... https://www.corbettreport.com/and-now-for-the-100-trillion-dollar-bankster-climate-swindle/ CREO Syndicate - Clean, Renewable and Environmental Opportunities (8 minute video about CREO) https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1599-new-world-next-week-with-james-evan-pilato/ Story #1: Secretive Club For Ultra-Wealthy Environmentalists Revealed The Secret Club for Billionaires Who Care About Climate Change CREO Syndicate: Clean, Renewable and Environmental Opportunities Flashback: Elites ‘Secret’ Meeting Discussed Depopulation (May 27, 2009) And Now For The 100 Trillion Dollar Bankster Climate Swindle… How & Why Big Oil Conquered The World B23-0171 – Minor Consent for Vaccinations Amendment Act of 2019 Fossil fuels are not profitable enough, the hidden goal is to charge much more for energy and to limit its use while also control who gets it and how much they pay. Meanwhile China will continue to burn coal and manufacture our products owned by American companies making huge profits. China will be a great aid in normalizing censorship of the average person. They have enough money to buy off most people who will get the way of their plans. Or will the Western World and our allies wake up before it is too late? 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoMack + 549 JM November 23, 2020 21 hours ago, ronwagn said: Fossil fuels are not profitable enough, the hidden goal is to charge much more for energy and to limit its use while also control who gets it and how much they pay. Meanwhile China will continue to burn coal and manufacture our products owned by American companies making huge profits. China will be a great aid in normalizing censorship of the average person. They have enough money to buy off most people who will get the way of their plans. Or will the Western World and our allies wake up before it is too late? I do believe it is too late. We just elected the guy who plans to "transition" out of fossil fuels. Nuclear? Off the table. Just miles and miles of windmills, and the dead lands where thousands of acres of solar panels flash in the sun. Raptors fall with all, migration is stymied, agriculture is crushed, the fauna are deadsville and power lines cross every state far and wide. Mining will have to occur, plastics will have to be produced (but how?) for blades, huge batteries must be built, and still, how can we travel on a jet plane? Ponderous questions for the swath of politicians who for the most part wear depends to bed. But, that's okay, we have AOC and her brilliance to save us from our death in 10 years. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichieRich216 + 454 RK November 23, 2020 Biden will be removed because after 2 brain surgeries he is the mental equivalent of a 2 year old! This will go down as the greatest take down of the U.S. President ever seen and hopefully the Country can stand the on slot of raging liberals and globalist just looking to add billions to their net worth! China will and is fucking over the world with the Belt and Road and continued theft of corporate intellectual property to copy the West and won’t stop until they are the Supreme World Superpower all the while the Iranians bring a nuclear war to the Middle East causing Israel to take them out! Trillions will be pissed away on Green Energy which will not work worth a dam in large cities. The U.S. will willingly lead the way pissing away Trillions and ruin the economy for decades. By the time the people find out the REAL TRUTH, they will riot and wouldn’t be surprised of another civil war over all the bull shit. Right now there are 74+ Million Americans who are pissed off the direction the Country is headed! Civil Liberties will be suspended and that will be the flash point. HAPPY FUCKING NEW YEAR! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 November 23, 2020 Don't give up so easily. Biden hasn't really won yet. Pray for a miracle. Biden may not luast for two years and the next congress may be Republican. We won a lot of legislatures, all the House seats that the famous Cook Political Report said would go to Democrats, and should win both Georgia Senate Seats. We must win one though. Hundreds of millions will be spent on those two races. Unfortunately the Demoncrats will probably spend twice as much as the Republicans because of what they will do for the globalist plutocrats. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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