Bla2 + 31 BL December 2, 2020 (edited) The "CARRIED INTEREST" issue will be key to exposing Schumer hypocracy and bring on his ultimate defeat. Schumer is taking preemptive defensive measures and moving to the left of AOC. If that's possible. This week he proposes to forgive all student debt. He reasons Biden can do so with an executive order thus bypassing Congress. I doubt Schumer believes an Executive Order would be legal. That doesn't matter he is doing it for effect. He supports the proposed $12 Trillion bailout plan coming in next year that will bail out the states that busted their budgets over the last 10 years. Of course he does. Who are top 2 abusers of excessive spending. Schumer's New York and Pelosi's California. They want the country to bail them out of their fiscal mismanagement. Just like the $Trillion dollar Obama/Biden bailout to be used for shovel ready infrastructure projects . No shovel ready projects it all went into state general funds. Then there is China. Schumer actually encouraged Trump to be tougher on China. Now he defends Biden accommodating China to assure Schumer receives campaign contribution from Big Tech and Wall Street. AOC will beat Schumer in the Democrat Senate Primary. AOC just has to go after Schumer on "Carried Interest" the huge tax loophole where the Hedge Funds , Private Equity Funds and Investment Banks pay little or no income taxes. Schumer actually attacked Romney on "Carried Interest" during the 2012 Presidential Race. Then Schumer was the the #1 recipient of Hedge Fund campaign donations during his 2016 Senatorial reelection campaign. Hypocritical. What do you expect from our representatives. AOC just needs to explain "Carried Interest" to the folks and Schumer support for this massive giveaway loophole to Hedge Funds , Private Equity and Investment Bank billionaires (the modern day Robber Barron's) and she is a shoe in. She will have to announce her run against Schumer by Q1 2021. I never thought I'd say this but I would prefer AOC to Schumer Hey, at least AOC backs the anti-competitive antitrust lawsuits against Facebook and Google. That can't be bad. The "Carried Interest" is the Sacred Cow of the Financial Class. Don't you dare touch it or they will destroy you (as Trump proposed eliminating during 2016 campaign) However, it is also the Achilles Heal of the Establishment Politicians. It will be the tool for populist candidates to take on the entrenched Politicians like Schumer. THE KEY IS TO EXPLAIN TO VOTERS EXACTLY WHAT CARRIED INTEREST IS AND HOW IT ALLOWS WALL STREET BILLIONAIRES AND MILLIONAIRES TO PAY LITTLE OR NO INCOME TAXES. Ever notice how Pols relatives start or work for Hedge Funds ? Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's brother, Chelsea Clinton, Chelsea's Husband, Paul Ryan's brother, etc. etc. etc. Remember when Warren Buffet said his office manager pays more income tax then he does. He wasn't kidding. I'm not against Wall Street making millions or billions. JUST PAY YOUR INCOME TAXES LIKE THE FOLKS DO. Also, I don't support AOCs socialist agenda. But the U.S. had to expose and change the inside game and crony capitalism between Congress, Wall Street and now Big Tech. Edited December 13, 2020 by Bla2 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,324 RG December 2, 2020 (edited) Go watch the video called Holy Koolaid on YouTube and check out the informed. Type in evangelist Covid and witness belief systems at work. Try a google. Now type in Covid deaths and hospitalization. The US compared to the rest of the countries in the world. Edited December 2, 2020 by Boat 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN December 2, 2020 Here is a related THREAD with much discussion about vaccines and the m-RNA and also the DNA vaccines for Covid-19. https://community.oilprice.com/topic/21515-covid-vaccine-90-effective/ https://community.oilprice.com/topic/21515-covid-vaccine-90-effective/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Bla2 said: Dr. Fauci says 70% of the population (245 million U.S. ) need to be vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. Other virologists disagree. Wouldn't it be prudent to just vaccinate the high risk subjects ? Wouldn't it be prudent to tar and feather "Dr." Falsy and run him out of town on a rail? I'm sure Kamala and Nancy could get him a job in California, maybe at a beauty salon... 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 December 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boat said: Go watch the video called Holy Koolaid on YouTube and check out the informed. Type in evangelist Covid and witness belief systems at work. Try a google. Now type in Covid deaths and hospitalization. The US compared to the rest of the countries in the world. Good stuff, @Boat. The Kool Aid video may be animated, but it's spot on. BTW, the Reagan joke was one that Reagan told himself and, just to rub it in to a few people, I do live in Thailand now and have for the last 8 years, and came here for many of the reasons in the video. Irony is thick on the Televangelist who blamed COVID-19 on premarital sex. (Excerpt) A televangelist preacher who once blamed the coronavirus pandemic on premarital sex died this week of COVID-19, according to a report. The Rev. Irvin Baxter — who appeared on the Christian TV show “End of the Age” — succumbed to the illness Tuesday after being hospitalized, according to Endtime Ministries, the Pentecostal Christian organization he founded. Edited December 2, 2020 by Dan Warnick 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Boat said: Try a google. Now type in Covid deaths and hospitalization. The US compared to the rest of the countries in the world. A simple search on that phrase results in a mixed bag of bullshit, @Boat, with the CDC leading the way in their incoherent, confusing, ill-guided way. But this standby, although it doesn't really compare the U.S. to other countries, is definitive nonetheless: A closer look at U.S. deaths due to COVID-19, by Johns Hopkins (Excerpt) She explained that the significance of COVID-19 on U.S. deaths can be fully understood only through comparison to the number of total deaths in the United States. After retrieving data on the CDC website, Briand compiled a graph representing percentages of total deaths per age category from early February to early September, which includes the period from before COVID-19 was detected in the U.S. to after infection rates soared. Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same. “The reason we have a higher number of reported COVID-19 deaths among older individuals than younger individuals is simply because every day in the U.S. older individuals die in higher numbers than younger individuals,” Briand said. Briand also noted that 50,000 to 70,000 deaths are seen both before and after COVID-19, indicating that this number of deaths was normal long before COVID-19 emerged. Therefore, according to Briand, not only has COVID-19 had no effect on the percentage of deaths of older people, but it has also not increased the total number of deaths. These data analyses suggest that in contrast to most people’s assumptions, the number of deaths by COVID-19 is not alarming. In fact, it has relatively no effect on deaths in the United States. This comes as a shock to many people. How is it that the data lie so far from our perception? To answer that question, Briand shifted her focus to the deaths per causes ranging from 2014 to 2020. There is a sudden increase in deaths in 2020 due to COVID-19. This is no surprise because COVID-19 emerged in the U.S. in early 2020, and thus COVID-19-related deaths increased drastically afterward. Analysis of deaths per cause in 2018 revealed that the pattern of seasonal increase in the total number of deaths is a result of the rise in deaths by all causes, with the top three being heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia. “This is true every year. Every year in the U.S. when we observe the seasonal ups and downs, we have an increase of deaths due to all causes,” Briand pointed out. When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes. COURTESY OF GENEVIEVE BRIAND Graph depicts the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018. This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly, as depicted in the table below, the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19. 1 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,324 RG December 3, 2020 (edited) https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html Look at how deaths follows hospitalization in the chart. It’s Coid and not a conspiracy. If your going out wear a mask and keep cleaning your hands. We need all buildings with Hepa filtration. We need laws that require fresh air to be implemented to disperse the aerosol COVID in the air. No churches, no bars, no restraunts. Stay at home unless working or gathering supplies. It’s not rocket science. This ongoing round of idiocy is killing fellow citizens. like God rejected Trump, he is sending your butt to hell over being dumb. Edited December 3, 2020 by Boat 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 470 December 3, 2020 22 hours ago, Bla2 said: vaccine....... 19 hours ago, Dan Warnick said: kool aid........ quote:" Kool-Aid was created by Edwin Perkins in 1927 based upon a liquid concentrate called Fruit Smack". there is a saying "kool aid fruit punch is for believers; wine for non believers"........Fruit punch drinkers used to be associated with "yes man" type.......... Wine drinkers................... After a few bottles of wine, chemistry has it that, those involved usually doubt everything in their lives............. One small cup or two over the weekend might make the drinkers rise above kool aid drinkers and bottle fans with clearer and wider understanding on things........... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bla2 + 31 BL December 3, 2020 (edited) AOC the next New York U.S. Senator from the great state of New York ? Edited December 12, 2020 by Bla2 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Bla2 said: The New York State Bar recommends passing a law making CV19 vaccine mandatory if not enough volunteers get the vaccine. https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2020/11/07/state-bar-passes-mandatory-covid-19-vaccination-recommendation/?slreturn=20201103133126 The State Bar represents what the lawyers want. Not necessarily what they think is good for the State or City. Makes me wonder what the lawyer's angles are. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bla2 + 31 BL December 3, 2020 (edited) I believe Edited December 12, 2020 by Bla2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 December 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Bla2 said: EU lawmakers warn against hasty approval for Covid vaccines article : https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/eu-lawmakers-warn-against-hasty-approval-for-covid-vaccines-after-uk-authorises-pfizer-jab-for-general-use/ar-BB1byw6L In another article an European virologist said it is "highly unlikely" there would be long-term problems. He stated this has historically been the case. He went on to describe the development and use of the measle vaccine. Using new mRNA technology for the first time for a viral vaccine could produce serious long-term medical conditions. If a German believes you should be cautious about any kind of new drug, you should take their advice. Only beware of a German saying you shouldn't! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bla2 + 31 BL December 4, 2020 (edited) Reputable virologists warn against Covid vaccine long-term potential problems " "Dr. Michael Yeadon and Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, who have written to the European Medicines Agency, citing safety concerns for human trials and saying they should be halted immediately until these issues could be addressed. Yes, Yeadon was head of respiratory research at the very company — Pfizer — responsible for the first vaccine to be used on the British population. Wolfgang Wodarg, meanwhile, is the former head of a public health department in Germany. So their concerns about the vaccine can hardly be dismissed as the work of cranks. Among the potential side-effects, they warn, are the formation of ‘non-neutralising antibodies’ which can cause an exaggerated, and possibly lethal, immune reaction – especially when the test person is confronted after vaccination with the real, ‘wild’ virus. There is also a risk of ‘infertility of indefinite duration’ in vaccinated women; and the possibility of fatal allergic reactions to polyethylene glycol (PEG) which is used in the mRNA vaccines from BioNTech/Pfizer. Perhaps the biggest worry about this vaccine is that it may be made compulsory. Prime Minister Boris Johnson has insisted that there are no government plans to force people to take the vaccine. But Vaughan Gething, the ‘Health Minister’ of the hard-left Welsh ‘government’ has already jumped the gun on this by launching health ID cards in Wales." Edited December 4, 2020 by Bla2 2 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bla2 + 31 BL December 4, 2020 (edited) The FDA will not name the members of the Covid vaccine independent review committee until 2 days before the December 10th meeting date. The FDA said they will live stream the meeting. This should be good. Can't wait. QUESTION : WHAT HAPPENS TO THE STOCK MARKET AND OIL MARKET IF THIS COMMITTEE QUALIFIES THE "EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION" BY NOTING THE POSSIBLE LONGTERM COMPLICATIONS ATTRIBUTED TO THESE NOVEL mRNA VACCINES ? Don't count your chickens before they hatch. For the FDA to approve Emergency Use without making note of possible longterm risks would be criminal in my opinion. Notice Dr.Fauci, NIH, CDC, FDA, Pfizer CEO, Moderna CEO and Mainstream Media have totally ignored these serious risk factors. These medical conditions may not materialize. However, they may. Nobody knows . Can't just ignore. Edited December 4, 2020 by Bla2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichieRich216 + 454 RK December 4, 2020 Agreed, I’m not going to take the vaccine because the government tells me to, this is just another way to strip people of rights, This bullshit idea of a passport stating you have been vaccinated is another over reach! Globalist want complete control over every Country! They can go Fu*k off! I refuse to surrender my rights to any government agencies and world agencies like the IMF, UN, WHO!!!! They have a agenda of one world being controlled by unelected, very wealthy people that want to control everything. Maybe it’s time to start dropping these people in a shallow grave. 2 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 December 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, RichieRich216 said: Agreed, I’m not going to take the vaccine because the government tells me to, this is just another way to strip people of rights, This bullshit idea of a passport stating you have been vaccinated is another over reach! Globalist want complete control over every Country! They can go Fu*k off! I refuse to surrender my rights to any government agencies and world agencies like the IMF, UN, WHO!!!! They have a agenda of one world being controlled by unelected, very wealthy people that want to control everything. Maybe it’s time to start dropping these people in a shallow grave. Passports are not a right. You are free to stay in your country. Other countries can certainly ask you to have a vaccine or a negative test. "Killing the wealthy" just tells me you are poor. I remember a time when Americans thought the wealthy were the entrepreneurial "job creators" and the wealth would trickle-down. Now you want to rise up and seize the means of production with violence? Remember the rich are more powerful than you and do control everything. Can you win against us? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 December 4, 2020 Bla2 sure sounds like Tom N Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN December 4, 2020 13 hours ago, Enthalpic said: Bla2 sure sounds like Tom N Regarding Bla2 - He has a mind that works. His mental capabilities and integrity are intact. RELATED LONG VACCINE THREAD... https://community.oilprice.com/topic/21515-covid-vaccine-90-effective/ 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bla2 + 31 BL December 7, 2020 (edited) Remember, the filed approvals are for Emergency Use Authorization. Not full approval. https://abc7news.com/covid-vaccine-what-is-emergency-use-authorization-pfizer-coronavirus/8126224/ . . . . It's when regulators allow shots to be given to certain people while studies of safety and effectiveness are ongoing. . . . . . . Before any vaccine is permitted in the U.S., it must be reviewed by the Food and Drug Administration, which requires study in thousands of people. Normally, the process to approve a new vaccine can take about a decade. But the federal government is using various methods to dramatically speed up the process for COVID-19 vaccines. During a health crisis, the FDA can loosen its normal scientific standards to allow emergency use of experimental drugs, devices, vaccines and other medical products. The first vaccines to get the provisional green light in the U.S. are almost certain to be made available under this process, known as emergency use authorization.Instead of the usual requirement of "substantial evidence" of safety and effectiveness for approval, the FDA can allow products onto the market as long as their benefits are likely to outweigh their risks. It has already used its emergency powers to authorize hundreds of coronavirus tests and a handful of treatments during the pandemic. But the agency has almost no experience granting emergency use for vaccines . . . . In October, FDA officials told vaccine makers they should have two months of safety follow-up from half of the people enrolled in their studies before requesting emergency authorization. That data is expected to be enough for FDA to allow vaccinations of certain high-risk groups, such as front-line health workers and nursing home residents. Full approval of a vaccine will likely require six months of safety follow-up . . . . The leading vaccine makers are not expected to complete that process until next spring or summer. Only then is the FDA expected to grant full approval, which would allow vaccinations of the general population. Edited December 7, 2020 by Bla2 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 December 7, 2020 On 12/3/2020 at 12:36 PM, Bla2 said: The New York State Bar recommends passing a law making CV19 vaccine mandatory if not enough volunteers get the vaccine. https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2020/11/07/state-bar-passes-mandatory-covid-19-vaccination-recommendation/?slreturn=20201103133126 No it should not be mandatory IMHO. I am anxiously awaiting it though. COVID is hampering my travel addiction. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 December 7, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, ronwagn said: No it should not be mandatory IMHO. I am anxiously awaiting it though. COVID is hampering my travel addiction. Agreed Covid travel restrictions are annoying. I always fly someplace warmer in December/January and I am bummed it's not happening this year. Things sure have changed, this time last year I was in Las Vegas partying with my sweetie. I spent the money earmarked for travel on new appliances. Not fun for me but the lady loves them, the fancy things even have a bloody WiFi connection! Edited December 7, 2020 by Enthalpic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP December 8, 2020 Just to have a balanced view on vaccines (both good and bad). It is very clear that there are only a handful of deaths that can be directly attributed to the administering of vaccines. Compare that to the several million lives they save each and every year. However the taking of any vaccine MUST at all times be personal choice and should never be compulsory dictated by the country he/she lives in. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4599698/ I am happy to take the Astra Zeneca Oxford vaccine as its relatively old tech, I wont be taking the Pfizer BioNtech as it its new tech. Like some have mentioned previously we need to get the world back to normailty and economies on the road to recovery, Vaccines will go a long way towards this, what other solution is there? 1 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff December 8, 2020 A vaccine may be too little too late. Currently, the USA has 15 million confirmed cases: ie tested cases. How many infected people have yet to be confirmed by testing? The US is deliberately hiding the ratio. Other countries, who have implemented tracking, confirm the ratio of confirmed to possible cases is 1:30. Let's take a conservative number for the US, say 1:10. thus the number of infecteds yet to be tested could be 150mm! Given the belligerence not to wear masks, not self-isolate, not to restrict travel, etc, the entire US population could be infected in a few weeks hence, to some degree. Once infected, any vaccine will be useless. In fact, the vaccine could be very dangerous, as it will inject even more pathogens into patients in the most dangerous way: via serum. Then there is the genome of the virus itself: ie rna. An rna virus can and will mutate quickly. And it can spread to other hosts, to cows, pigs, chickens, to infect the entire food chain, then return to humans as a mutated virus. By then the vaccine will be entirely useless. The vaccines are 95% effective. great. But that leaves about 20mm people who will not be helped by the vaccine. Could that 20mm create a mutated rna virus? you can bet they will. Time will tell. Herd immunity? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP December 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, frankfurter said: In fact, the vaccine could be very dangerous, as it will inject even more pathogens into patients in the most dangerous way: via serum. Actually no this isnt the case with Moderna or Pfizer vaccines so they can be used once approved. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN December 8, 2020 Per the design objective of the Covid Studies... A “Successful Vaccine” won’t stop infections, hospitalizations, deaths or transmission of the COVID virus. Look it up. Phase 3 of the studies will be ongoing for the next 2 years (at least). About 4 years from now they will start to sort out data from those who have taken the vaccines for published studies (but I doubt the data will be publicly available...so you have to "trust" the authorities to be honest.). Propylethylene glycol will be in some of the m-RNA vaccines. We don't know what else at this time. Of course, the intent of the m-RNA vaccine is to program your cells to make a chemical it has never before made in the history of mankind. Forever, from that point on, your body will be programmed differently. This is not like a regular vaccine which is a dead or live virus. They have never isolated the SARS-CoV-2 virus. (the Covid virus) They only have an idea of what parts of it might be like based on other viruses. Thus, in the lab, they took a shred, a piece, of what they think the Covid virus structure is, ...and this is the m-RNA that will be injected into a person to program their cells. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites