Ward Smith + 6,615 December 17, 2020 (edited) Lacking the continuity of the other thread, let's observe how the Eejits attack and disrupt this thread. Make no mistake their agenda is not our agenda. They're following Alinsky rules which I will upload here eventually. Meanwhile this is Arizona vote fraud video Rather than trust Big Brother at Google world domination, I'm going to post links and videos on platforms that aren't going to yank the content. Now for those who claim there's no evidence, please answer the question of why videos, including those showing election crimes committed are deleted, again and again? If Google / YouTube have nothing to hide, why do they keep hiding the videos? If you exclusively sea search on Google, what makes you think they're showing you the entirety of the answers to your query, given that they're openly and flagrantly censoring videos? What else are they censoring from your view? Edited December 17, 2020 by Selva insult 7 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN December 17, 2020 The people's vote doesn't matter. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Tom Nolan said: The people's vote doesn't matter. That's the NWO plan. Remember once you vote socialists into power, you'll only get it back with bullets. Sweden et al aren't socialist BTW, they're just the "success stories" socialists like to point to to deflect the Socialism never works argument. 1 1 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 December 17, 2020 (edited) Quote Critics on the Left and within the Democrat Party have, on the other hand, dismissed these charges as the sour grapes of a whining loser. Some of these critics have completely denied any fraud, misconduct or malfeasance altogether. Others have acknowledged that while some election irregularities may have existed, they strenuously insist that these irregularities are not significant enough to overturn the election. There is a similar Battle Royale raging between large anti-Trump segments of the so-called “mainstream” media and alternative conservative news outlets. Across the anti-Trump mainstream media diaspora – which includes most prominently print publications like the New York Times and Washington Post and cable TV networks like CNN and MSNBC – a loud chorus of voices has been demanding that President Trump concede the election. These same anti-Trump voices have been equally quick to denounce or discredit anyone – especially anyone within their own circle – that dares to investigate what may well turn out to be THE biggest political scandal in American history. Social media outlets like Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube likewise have been actively and relentlessly censoring anyone who dares to call the results of the election into question. In contrast, alternative news outlets, primarily associated with the American conservative movement, have provided extensive, in-depth coverage of the many issues of fraud, misconduct, and other irregularities that are coming to light. From Steve Bannon’s War Room Pandemic6 and John Solomon’s Just the News7 to Raheem Kassam’s National Pulse,8 to Newsmax,9 and One America News Network,10 Americans hungry for facts and breaking developments have been able to find such critical information only by following this alternative coverage. That the American public is not buying what the Democrat Party and the anti-Trump media and social media are selling is evident in public opinion polls. For example, according to a recent Rasmussen poll: “Sixty-two percent (62%) of Republicans say it is ‘Very Likely the Democrats stole the election’” while 28% of Independents and 17% of Democrats share that view.11 Full Navarro report here Theft by a thousand cuts Edited December 17, 2020 by Ward Smith 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selva + 252 SP December 17, 2020 Well, lets give a try with this new thread. This time without insults, name calling and personal attacks. Can't wait to see how that will work. 2 2 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Selva said: Well, lets give a try with this new thread. This time without insults, name calling and personal attacks. Can't wait to see how that will work. Just a thought, and far be it from my place to tell anyone how to run a forum, but it would be interesting to take EVERYONE'S suggestion, and block Enthalpic from any discussion thread not started by him(?). He follows any topic he wants to disrupt, and any poster/commenter that he does not like, and injects his ritualistic, and predictable poison. Once he has commenced that attack, he "baits" the conversation and commenters until such time as he sees fit to turn to you and cry "But, Selva, they are picking on me!". Boo-hoo and all that, but this is classic bait and switch. To not even recognize it for what it is, is in itself lazy and/or gutless. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 December 17, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dan Warnick said: Just a thought, and far be it from my place to tell anyone how to run a forum, but it would be interesting to take EVERYONE'S suggestion, and block Enthalpic from any discussion thread not started by him(?). He follows any topic he wants to disrupt, and any poster/commenter that he does not like, and injects his ritualistic, and predictable poison. Once he has commenced that attack, he "baits" the conversation and commenters until such time as he sees fit to turn to you and cry "But, Selva, they are picking on me!". Boo-hoo and all that, but this is classic bait and switch. To not even recognize it for what it is, is in itself lazy and/or gutless. I used no insults.. You guys must control yourselves. I inject reality into your fantasy. You guys get mad because the truth hurts. Biden is your POTUS. Edited December 17, 2020 by Enthalpic 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Dan Warnick said: Just a thought, and far be it from my place to tell anyone how to run a forum, but it would be interesting to take EVERYONE'S suggestion, and block Enthalpic from any discussion thread not started by him(?). He follows any topic he wants to disrupt, and any poster/commenter that he does not like, and injects his ritualistic, and predictable poison. Once he has commenced that attack, he "baits" the conversation and commenters until such time as he sees fit to turn to you and cry "But, Selva, they are picking on me!". Boo-hoo and all that, but this is classic bait and switch. To not even recognize it for what it is, is in itself lazy and/or gutless. I am in agreement with you, let us discuss and document without replying to comments that derail a train of thought. This discipline will shortly demonstrate a pattern of anarchy rather than one of critical thinking or a intelligent well founded rebuttal... 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selva + 252 SP December 17, 2020 Just a few minutes after my last post, we have 10 posts that have nothing to do with this topic. Just as I thought would be. Can we now stick to this topic because I don't want to hear more complaints about locking threads. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 December 17, 2020 Denying there was election fraud is on topic. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 December 17, 2020 Personally i do find this video rather disturbing, it appears that the individual is doubling is actually double counting count's...Is that possible or am wrong? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffrey Brown + 208 JB December 17, 2020 (edited) How Geraldo Rivera, the sensationalist showman of ’80s TV, became the voice of election reason on Fox Newshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2020/12/17/geraldo-rivera-fox-news-voice-of-election-reason/ Excerpt: Rivera might be playing the most important — and unexpected — role of his life, as a contrarian truth-teller who has been pleading with President Trump, whom he considers a friend, and the president’s most passionate supporters to accept that their side lost the election. . . In his efforts to talk truth to conservatives, he has taken direct aim at some of the most prominent election denialists on the right — and done so straight to their faces, as he did on Monday night during a heated segment with the millennial conservative activist Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA, who suggested on air that Trump still has a chance to serve another four years. “It is over,” Rivera told him firmly. “I want the president, my friend, the current president, the 45th president, to understand it is over. The Electoral College has voted. The longer we drag this out, the more we damage the fabric of our democracy.” When Kirk hyped some of the “pending legal challenges” still in play, Rivera repeated, “That is so dishonest.” “We have litigated this for six weeks,” Rivera added. “We have litigated this for six weeks. Twice the Supreme Court of the United States have rejected it, 9-0, including all three Trump associate justices.” McConnell warns Senate Republicans against challenging election results https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/15/mcconnell-gop-election-results-445524 His guidance comes one day after the Electoral College officially affirmed Biden's win. Edited December 17, 2020 by Jeffrey Brown 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 December 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, Selva said: Just a few minutes after my last post, we have 10 posts that have nothing to do with this topic. Just as I thought would be. Can we now stick to this topic because I don't want to hear more complaints about locking threads. I count 5 posts. Exaggerating? Deleted? Or just bad at math? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 December 17, 2020 So many oddities prior to the election, Giuliani was vilified for disclosing the Biden laptop, and yet it is now known the BIden investigation was open and active during the senate impeachment trial. Just prior to the election the story was actually censored by social media..meaning not allowed in print yet it was and is a real investigation... 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 December 17, 2020 An audit conducted Thursday of the votes cast in the November presidential election in Antrim County, the heart of a conspiracy theory about Dominion Voting Systems leveling false allegations of fraud in the election, affirmed the outcome with a net gain of 12 votes for Republican President Donald Trump, out of 15,962 votes cast, officials . The Michigan Bureau of Elections and the Antrim County Clerk's Office were joined by a bipartisan team of clerks to conduct the "risk-limiting audit." The audit is one of several post-election audits underway and upcoming. https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/17/antrim-county-hand-tally-certified-election-results/3937898001/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 December 17, 2020 Guiliani not relevant at the impeachment trial? It turns out he was correct no margin of error.. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/19/cornyn-says-giuliani-not-relevant-impeachment-trial-100993 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selva + 252 SP December 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ward Smith said: I count 5 posts. Exaggerating? Deleted? Or just bad at math? To be precise, I count six. I guess we are both bad in math. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 December 17, 2020 Just now, Selva said: To be precise, I count six. I guess we are both bad in math. LOL exceptions are always part of decorum. Now let us carry on. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerry Maddoux + 3,627 GM December 17, 2020 In the thicket of political interests are coveys of quail that look very similar: top-notch, move rapidly and busily, collecting crop milk, worried about the young. If you were to ask, and if quail could talk, they would reply, just quail. But each family of quail has an agenda: to secure last year's milo crop, to escape the hunter's gun, to reach new horizons by flying faster into the autumn sun. Breaching each covey, the hunter employs tactics learned from his father, a hunter before him. To escape the hunter's gun, the quail have to improvise on the fly, making up rules, wondering when the shot will land. We are the quail. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 December 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said: An audit conducted Thursday of the votes cast in the November presidential election in Antrim County, the heart of a conspiracy theory about Dominion Voting Systems leveling false allegations of fraud in the election, affirmed the outcome with a net gain of 12 votes for Republican President Donald Trump, out of 15,962 votes cast, officials . The Michigan Bureau of Elections and the Antrim County Clerk's Office were joined by a bipartisan team of clerks to conduct the "risk-limiting audit." The audit is one of several post-election audits underway and upcoming. https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/17/antrim-county-hand-tally-certified-election-results/3937898001/ Here is core of this debacle, voter fraud rejection rates went for what 32% to .04....and the mail in ballots rate was quadrupled...And not traceable...it was quite a feat that was pulled off. https://6abc.com/voter-rejection-rate-making-sure-ballot-counts-pennsylvania-voters-voting-in/7247769/ 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flemming Hoog + 28 December 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said: An audit conducted Thursday of the votes cast in the November presidential election in Antrim County, the heart of a conspiracy theory about Dominion Voting Systems leveling false allegations of fraud in the election, affirmed the outcome with a net gain of 12 votes for Republican President Donald Trump, out of 15,962 votes cast, officials . The Michigan Bureau of Elections and the Antrim County Clerk's Office were joined by a bipartisan team of clerks to conduct the "risk-limiting audit." The audit is one of several post-election audits underway and upcoming. https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/17/antrim-county-hand-tally-certified-election-results/3937898001/ Hmmm … so now the losers of the election just needs another round 583.000 audits like that, then the popular vote would be a draw. But for the math to ad up, it would require 8.745 Billion voters … sooo I guess it’s Game Over 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 December 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gerry Maddoux said: In the thicket of political interests are coveys of quail that look very similar: top-notch, move rapidly and busily, collecting crop milk, worried about the young. If you were to ask, and if quail could talk, they would reply, just quail. But each family of quail has an agenda: to secure last year's milo crop, to escape the hunter's gun, to reach new horizons by flying faster into the autumn sun. Breaching each covey, the hunter employs tactics learned from his father, a hunter before him. To escape the hunter's gun, the quail have to improvise on the fly, making up rules, wondering when the shot will land. We are the quail. There is quite a bit of truth to the above, a very long time ago came upon the conclusion if....You dont like the rules of the game change the game...or in this instance the rules. Quite effective i must say, yet when one changes the rules...well we all can play that game... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 December 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Here is core of this debacle, voter fraud rejection rates went for what 32% to .04....and the mail in ballots rate was quadrupled...And not traceable...it was quite a feat that was pulled off. https://6abc.com/voter-rejection-rate-making-sure-ballot-counts-pennsylvania-voters-voting-in/7247769/ My post was about Michigan audit. The "evidence" you present is about Pennsylvania. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 December 17, 2020 Just now, Jay McKinsey said: My post was about Michigan audit. The "evidence" you present is about Pennsylvania. You are quite correct, i see nothing about spefic's and that is ok. Let us see if there is a pattern. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 December 17, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: You are quite correct, i see nothing about spefic's and that is ok. Let us see if there is a pattern. Nor does your article say anything close to rejection rates dropping from 32% to .04. On the contrary it says rejection rates increased. You should read the article. And the article is from October, it is referring to data from 2016 and 2018. It has no data on this year's election. Edited December 17, 2020 by Jay McKinsey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites