Jeffrey Brown + 208 JB December 19, 2020 (edited) Even as Trump vows to keep fighting, his aides are quietly starting to move on https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-aides-new-jobs/2020/12/18/157a02e6-3fd8-11eb-a402-fba110db3b42_story.html Excerpt: Vice President Pence has begun looking for a new home in the Washington suburbs, and he’s planning a valedictory foreign trip to begin the day Congress counts the electoral college votes. Chief of Staff Mark Meadows has discussed opening a consulting firm with other White House aides and allies. Top economic adviser Larry Kudlow has told friends he is planning to return to broadcasting, and he has his next gigs lined up. President Trump remains defiant, refusing to publicly acknowledge that he lost on Nov. 3. Edited December 19, 2020 by Jeffrey Brown 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 December 19, 2020 In the past few day's ive been busy with affairs that would bring some order to future events. Unfortunately things only get worse, so many events are taking place it is hard to deny something behind the scenes has been taking place... The US was being setup on a large scale for anarchy and some entity has now been uncovered in the middle of creating anarchy. It would seem the goals go far beyond the election, almost every institution of government has been broken into and new software placed in that manipulates the existing software. To what extent does these new modifications go, what is the purpose..no one know's yet...it is simply being called a Hack...lovely word hack is it not. https://apnews.com/article/hacking-solarwinds-cybersecurity-texas-1467388fe7234f2d3619289a49060eab#:~:text=The hacking operation began at,in-house IT crews have. https://apnews.com/article/technology-hacking-coronavirus-pandemic-russia-350ae2fb2e513772a4dc4b7360b8175c?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP This "hack" was known to exist as far back as March, yet the power at be just sat on there hands and calmly did what? It is now apparent this modification effected all networks with Solar winds software, Initially Solar Winds CEO denied any association Dominion voting machines and with Solar WInds, yet now the former cyber expert himself implicates Solar WInds...and of course nothing that matter's is his response...interesting commentary. I like the term Conflate...very intellectual is it not? https://www.businessinsider.com/krebs-do-not-conflate-voting-security-solarwinds-hack-2020-12 Take the time to look at this intellects depth..and he is deep make no mistakes..... https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/528323-krebs-doubles-down-after-threat-2020-election-was-most-secure-in-us The Former Cyber Security Chief...himself states....The Most Secure Election in US History. Nov. 13th 2020 https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/politics/2020-election-trump-voter-conspiracies/index.html Nov 18th 2020...Your Fired. https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/chris-krebs-fired-by-trump/index.html Dec18th 2020 https://www.ft.com/content/70b72f48-2e4f-4e94-8b02-502f3761ea6a It would seem this Cyber Chief does not grasp the term Cyber Security a complete failure....This attack began 9 months ago....it would seem the software knows to stay away from Krebs and the Dominion voting machines.... If the above sounds absurd the below link is perhaps thee most absurd statement i have ever witnessed with no repercussion's...a American President blackballed from day one, and a open admission from a top FBI official...What have we become. Peter Strozk: The Steele Dossier intended to influence the Media...this is beyond contempt. https://www.nationalreview.com/news/ex-fbi-agent-strzok-acknowledged-steele-dossier-was-intended-to-influence-media/ 2 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 December 19, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Gerry Maddoux said: I've looked at the graphs before and immediately after voting was simultaneously stopped in the swing states. One would have to be deliberately dismissive of the data, or impaired, not to believe that fraudulent counts were made. For example, in Michigan and Wisconsin, Trump was winning handily. Then in a very short time after voting resumed, there were 145,000 votes in one state, 165,000 in the other. In both cases about 90% of those votes were for Biden--whereas before the timeout Trump was winning handily. The Democrats may just get by with this. So far, the courts have had no moral center and no steel in their spine. The SCOTUS know, for example, that to "do the right thing" would mean blood-letting, rioting, burning and rampaging would break out on an unprecedented level. But if nothing is done, if the Dominion Voting Machines are not interrogated by a bipartisan commission, this country is lost. No president can take up a post which half the nation feels was taken by nefarious means and make much of it. Sure, he can "rule" as though he earned it but half the country is going to mock his every move. A real president-elect would demand a forensic interrogation: if it proved no fraud, think of the power he would have; if it proved fraud, who wants such a posting. Our country is at stake. If we let this one go by unaddressed by a definitive vote count or machine interrogation, then we are doomed as a Republic. And that would be a pyrrhic victory indeed. In fact, such a victor could very well become known as the Benedict Arnold of presidents . . . because the truth always comes out. In the end, it makes no difference what you or I think of Donald Trump--his policies have been superlative though his rhetoric has often been terrible. In the end, it will come down to whether or not the presidential election of the most powerful nation on earth was stolen. Obviously less than half the nation thinks the election was taken by nefarious means. First off not even close to half the nation could or wanted to vote for trump. 74,223,744 votes / 328,200,000 people = 22.6%. Now of that 22.6% clearly not all of them believe in the election theft conspiracy; as evident by the court decisions and comments from notable republicans acknowledging Biden's victory. So really less than 20% of the population feels the election was stolen. The rest just sadly don't care, or are happy. Edited December 19, 2020 by Enthalpic 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 December 19, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Enthalpic said: Obviously less than half the nation thinks the election was taken by nefarious means. First off not even close to half the nation could or wanted to vote for trump. 74,223,744 votes / 328,200,000 people = 22.6%. Now of that 22.6% clearly not all of them believe in the election theft conspiracy; as evident by the court decisions and comments from notable republicans acknowledging Biden's victory. So really less than 20% of the population feels the election was stolen. The rest just sadly don't care, or are happy. What is important here is the below, almost to the letter of ORO thought process. The DOD is now involved..Biden's team has been cut out of the loop, how this ends is anyone's guess. https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/12/18/acting-defense-secretary-suspends-meetings-with-biden-transition-team/?sh=673dbf5fa93e Edited December 19, 2020 by Eyes Wide Open 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 December 19, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: What is important here is the below, almost to the letter of ORO thought process. The DOD is now involved..Biden's team has been cut out of the loop, how this ends is anyone's guess. https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/12/18/acting-defense-secretary-suspends-meetings-with-biden-transition-team/?sh=673dbf5fa93e Quick glance at that just suggests they will stop providing security briefings for a bit. Flex move... Can you propose a mechanism where the DOD can overturn the SCOTUS rulings? Edited December 19, 2020 by Enthalpic 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 December 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Enthalpic said: Quick glance at that just suggests they will stop providing security briefings for a bit. Flex move... Can you propose a mechanism where the DOD can overturn the SCOTUS rulings? There is no need to overturn any SOCTUS ruling's, i do believe you are somewhat confused. 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 December 19, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: There is no need to overturn any SOCTUS ruling's, i do believe you are somewhat confused. Okay explain using your own words how the DOD can overturn the election results. Are they the branch / department designed to investigate such matters? Edited December 19, 2020 by Enthalpic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 December 19, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Enthalpic said: Okay explain using your own words how the DOD can overturn the election results. They cannot overturn any election, yet they can with impunity wade into both foreign and domestic affairs.. if a threat is imminent....make no mistake. I do believe what you are looking for is can they interfere and stop the results no, but if they would interfere it would be be very uncomfortable for us all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law_in_the_United_States Edited December 19, 2020 by Eyes Wide Open 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0R0 + 6,251 December 19, 2020 43 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: In the past few day's ive been busy with affairs that would bring some order to future events. Unfortunately things only get worse, so many events are taking place it is hard to deny something behind the scenes has been taking place... The US was being setup on a large scale for anarchy and some entity has now been uncovered in the middle of creating anarchy. It would seem the goals go far beyond the election, almost every institution of government has been broken into and new software placed in that manipulates the existing software. To what extent does these new modifications go, what is the purpose..no one know's yet...it is simply being called a Hack...lovely word hack is it not. https://apnews.com/article/hacking-solarwinds-cybersecurity-texas-1467388fe7234f2d3619289a49060eab#:~:text=The hacking operation began at,in-house IT crews have. https://apnews.com/article/technology-hacking-coronavirus-pandemic-russia-350ae2fb2e513772a4dc4b7360b8175c?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP This "hack" was known to exist as far back as March, yet the power at be just sat on there hands and calmly did what? It is now apparent this modification effected all networks with Solar winds software, Initially Solar Winds CEO denied any association Dominion voting machines and with Solar WInds, yet now the former cyber expert himself implicates Solar WInds...and of course nothing that matter's is his response...interesting commentary. I like the term Conflate...very intellectual is it not? https://www.businessinsider.com/krebs-do-not-conflate-voting-security-solarwinds-hack-2020-12 Take the time to look at this intellects depth..and he is deep make no mistakes..... https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/528323-krebs-doubles-down-after-threat-2020-election-was-most-secure-in-us The Former Cyber Security Chief...himself states....The Most Secure Election in US History. Nov. 13th 2020 https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/politics/2020-election-trump-voter-conspiracies/index.html Nov 18th 2020...Your Fired. https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/chris-krebs-fired-by-trump/index.html Dec18th 2020 https://www.ft.com/content/70b72f48-2e4f-4e94-8b02-502f3761ea6a It would seem this Cyber Chief does not grasp the term Cyber Security a complete failure....This attack began 9 months ago....it would seem the software knows to stay away from Krebs and the Dominion voting machines.... If the above sounds absurd the below link is perhaps thee most absurd statement i have ever witnessed with no repercussion's...a American President blackballed from day one, and a open admission from a top FBI official...What have we become. Peter Strozk: The Steele Dossier intended to influence the Media...this is beyond contempt. https://www.nationalreview.com/news/ex-fbi-agent-strzok-acknowledged-steele-dossier-was-intended-to-influence-media/ Timing looks like Krebs was somehow involved with the Solar Winds hack. As soon as he is booted out the hack is discovered and goes public. Could Krebs have more than just failed miserably at his job, but perhaps was part of the hack? It was 9 months under his "watchful gaze" that the greatest hack ever was conducted going into all major government networks and tens of thousands of private ones. Why is he not being interrogated by FBI CIA DOJ and DIA? Why does he have time to give interviews? Why would anyone care what this sort of total failure has to say for himself? 1 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, 0R0 said: Timing looks like Krebs was somehow involved with the Solar Winds hack. As soon as he is booted out the hack is discovered and goes public. Could Krebs have more than just failed miserably at his job, but perhaps was part of the hack? It was 9 months under his "watchful gaze" that the greatest hack ever was conducted going into all major government networks and tens of thousands of private ones. Why is he not being interrogated by FBI CIA DOJ and DIA? Why does he have time to give interviews? Why would anyone care what this sort of total failure has to say for himself? Big Tech is in this past their hip boot waders. Krebs came highly recommended from Microsoft. Bill Gates @Tom Nolan's good buddy 😗 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 December 20, 2020 5 hours ago, 0R0 said: Timing looks like Krebs was somehow involved with the Solar Winds hack. As soon as he is booted out the hack is discovered and goes public. Could Krebs have more than just failed miserably at his job, but perhaps was part of the hack? It was 9 months under his "watchful gaze" that the greatest hack ever was conducted going into all major government networks and tens of thousands of private ones. Why is he not being interrogated by FBI CIA DOJ and DIA? Why does he have time to give interviews? Why would anyone care what this sort of total failure has to say for himself? Me thinks they give the man more rope by the day..... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffrey Brown + 208 JB December 20, 2020 After legal threat, Fox airs news package debunking election fraud claims made by its own hosts https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/business/fox-smartmatic-news-package/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 December 20, 2020 Fox seems to be a mess these days, that's for sure. Weather vane malfunction? Waiting to see which way the political winds blow? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 December 20, 2020 It appears the Left has been given their marching orders (talking points) for the coming days and they are launching into them with gusto this Sunday in Washington DC. Some recent Sundays have passed without much thought from either side, but this one seems to be different? Or is it just that the Big Tech and MSM Algos have not been allowing me to see anything except what they want me to see, such as Salmon Breeding in the Northwest, 1994, or some other equally enthralling topics. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffrey Brown + 208 JB December 20, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Dan Warnick said: Fox seems to be a mess these days, that's for sure. Weather vane malfunction? Waiting to see which way the political winds blow? Or, in the alternative, threatened with an expensive lawsuit, which it appears that they would lose, their lawyers ordered them to tell the truth. Edited December 20, 2020 by Jeffrey Brown 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 December 20, 2020 34 minutes ago, Jeffrey Brown said: Or, in the alternative, threatened with an expensive lawsuit, which it appears that they would lose, their lawyers ordered them to tell the truth. Or, who knows, they could Cover actual news like this? Let's count shall we? On the audit that @Jay McKinsey pointed proudly at "confirming" there was nothing wrong in Antrim County, what do we find? Video evidence of fraud and corruption! 139 ballots with the same signature they're told to "count anyway". They're told during an audit that "this is not an investigation". You've sure picked a good horse to back there Jeffrey. Could it be you like fraud? Are you the one sending emails out pretending to be a Nigerian prince? 🙃 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerry Maddoux + 3,627 GM December 20, 2020 Coincidences: Dominion Voting Machines installed late, with a markedly skewed Biden count in counties with the machines. The hack of security issues via Solar Wind. The sudden cessation of all intelligence briefings of the Biden team by the DOD. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0R0 + 6,251 December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Dan Warnick said: Fox seems to be a mess these days, that's for sure. Weather vane malfunction? Waiting to see which way the political winds blow? Defamation lawsuit threats Newsmax did one of those as well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0R0 + 6,251 December 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Jeffrey Brown said: Or, in the alternative, threatened with an expensive lawsuit, which it appears that they would lose, their lawyers ordered them to tell the truth. They are not telling truth they are distinguishing their reporting of other people's claims from their own journalistic findings, as they were riding the reports from others rather than doing their own investigations. The Smartmatic people are claiming that they have no business connection remaining with Dominion and it was not their owned software that was actually used in the elections, but one developed by Dominion out of it. That they have no business relationship is not strictly true as they were cross licensing at least up to a few years ago. The Dominion paperwork is in the Trump legal team's hands. Smartmatic's isn't. Dominion would have brought suit if they had a leg to stand on as their business is likely to be completely wiped out by the current scandal. 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 December 20, 2020 On 12/19/2020 at 12:32 AM, Ward Smith said: It's not a hack if it was programmed to do it. That's a feature not a bug. Meanwhile even Taiwan knows this was a steal I find it funny that trump fans are now looking for foreign "help" in their effort to overturn the election. Remember when foreign influence was a bad thing? Someone tell trump the rest of the world doesn't vote in your election. The law doesn't care how many international fans you have. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340362336390004737 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 December 20, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, 0R0 said: Defamation lawsuit threats Newsmax did one of those as well. Don't have to fear defamation lawsuits if you are not doing anything wrong. Edited December 20, 2020 by Enthalpic 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 December 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Enthalpic said: I find it funny that trump fans are now looking for foreign "help" in their effort to overturn the election. Remember when foreign influence was a bad thing? Someone tell trump the rest of the world doesn't vote in your election. The law doesn't care how many international fans you have. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340362336390004737 As to these international fans commentary....you may do well with consulting Swalwell it would seem some friends do come into play here...well kinda. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0R0 + 6,251 December 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Enthalpic said: Don't have to fear defamation lawsuits if you are not doing anything wrong. They were doing something wrong, they were trying to frame interviews so as to indicate that they did their journalistic homework, instead of relying on the interviewee to do all of it. Note that they changed their behavior after the threats to distinguish between what they show as journalistic findings vs. the interviewees presenting theirs. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LANDMAN X + 181 MR December 21, 2020 During an interview on Sunday morning on WABC Radio's "Uncovering the Truth" with Dr. Maria Ryan and Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump gave an update on the 2020 election fight. The president talked about his efforts relating to uncovering voter fraud in battleground states, specifically Democratic controlled cities. Check out what Conservative News Daily reported: The President said the key to flipping the states back in his favor is to check the signatures and examine the voting machines. Trump blasted the RINO Governor and RINO Secretary of State in Georgia for not allowing a full signature audit in Fulton County where most of the corruption and fraud took place. Trump’s legal team however is still putting pressure on officials to order signature audits. Rudy Giuliani said he is still working with state legislatures and asking them to send Trump’s electoral votes to Congress to be counted in January. President Trump assured the American people that his campaign’s efforts are makings progress, “We are actually very close. The fake news will not tell you that..They are trying to suppress it. Lamestream media is doing the same thing they did with laptop from hell. We are getting close though!” LISTEN: The comments from President Trump come after Political advisor and White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications and Director of Social Media Dan Scavino took to Facebook on Saturday to make a breaking announcement. "FYSA—President Trump will not be conceding," he said. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 December 21, 2020 16 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: 16 hours ago, Enthalpic said: I find it funny that trump fans are now looking for foreign "help" in their effort to overturn the election. Remember when foreign influence was a bad thing? Someone tell trump the rest of the world doesn't vote in your election. The law doesn't care how many international fans you have. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340362336390004737 As to these international fans commentary....you may do well with consulting Swalwell it would seem some friends do come into play here...well kinda. Quote Hello everyone. Japanese Trump supporters introduced this site so I came to see it. I think you're bearish on the fact that the police haven't investigated it at all and the courts haven't taken it up, even if there are a number of testimonies and evidence videos alleging fraud. Perhaps some have lost confidence that Trump supporters claims are correct. So I came to say a word. Daijoubu! Even from the perspective of a foreign third party, it seems that this election is not being held fairly. What you feel is not wrong. Honesty speaking, this is not the opinion of the mainstream Japanese. Many people think that Trump is bad because the Japanese media only tells reports such as CNN and NYT. However, not a few Japanese have the same opinion as me. The police and media are responding too quickly to reject fraudulent claims. This feels to me: They wouldn't investigate the claim because they had determined in advance that there was no fraud. And Mr. Biden won the highest number of votes in American history than Mr. Obama. I feel that such a stupid thing is impossible! There are many other things, but this time I will end. This was written to tell the opinions of Japanese people who think Trump won. I need the help of a translation tool, so I may only be able to reply a little. See you. One example of "international" opinion. Enthalpic doesn't realize half the people actively corresponding here are "international". Even a blind pig can smell the rat in this election, but blind ideologues can't overcome their inherent failure... to think When I say China, I mean CCP of course. The Chinese people love Trump 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites