Roch + 537 DR January 5, 2021 (edited) Kemp and Raffensperger will lose their 2022 Primary. It's Republicans like Georgia's Raffensperger that will lead to a successful third political party candidates. Trump is not going anywhere. His base is strong. If Democrats continue to move their party to the far left a third party may well develop and be successful by 2024. Maybe even 2022 ? It may start as national candidates running as unaffiliated to any party. Edited January 6, 2021 by Roch 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 January 5, 2021 Keep moving the target instead of admitting defeat.... now the narrative is "in 2022 trump will campaign for others?" As if - he only cares about himself as evident from him backstabbing his own VPOTUS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 January 5, 2021 Today you have election in Georgia I haven’t been following them closely (or at all, really). But my throwaway guess is that Republicans lose both. Why would lower income Trump supporters vote for the party that failed to find Trump 11,780 votes and denied them their well-deserved $2,000 worth of gibs? I certainly wouldn’t in their place. Polling average ends in +1.8% to Ossoff and +2.1% to Warnock. Biden was at +1.2% and won Georgia by +0.2%, so they were very accurate there. The likely reason the polls underestimated Trump was because Trump’s support is more heavily loaded towards proles whom polls undersampled this year due to Corona (professionals worked from home and had free time to answer polls). But these proles like Trump a lot more than generic Reps, so we can expect less of an error in these elections. Plus, in any case, pollsters will have had time to further refine their methodology since the Presidential election. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerry Maddoux + 3,627 GM January 5, 2021 ^^^ If the two Democrats win their races, this puts the House, Senate and Oval all Democrat. That will in turn spur several developments that will virtually remove chances for a meaningful third party or a re-takeover by the Republicans. It will also ruin U.S. oil and gas. 1. Democrats will have the power to bring into statehood both Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia, which would give them about forty more representatives in the House and four new members of Senate. This would crush the Republican Party. 2. Biden would have a clear mandate to ban fracking, not only on federal lands but all lands, which would demolish approx. 75% of U.S. oil and gas, but would give him a clear path to rapid buildout of renewables on a grand scale. This is a crunch moment in America. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roch + 537 DR January 5, 2021 15 hours ago, Enthalpic said: Keep moving the target instead of admitting defeat.... now the narrative is "in 2022 trump will campaign for others?" As if - he only cares about himself as evident from him backstabbing his own VPOTUS. Enthalpy I thought you gave up hating as your New Year's resolution ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,324 RG January 6, 2021 17 hours ago, Roch said: Kemp and Raffensperger will lose their 2022 Primary. It's Republicans like Georgia's Raffensperger that will lead to a successful third political party candidates. Trump is not going anywhere. His base is strong. If Democrats continue to move their party to the far left a third party may well develop and be successful by 2024. Maybe even 2022 ? With 7% of black voters supporting Trump your vision of the future of GA might be a little optimistic. In early voting the Dems are ahead 4-5 pointss. The Trump effect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,324 RG January 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Gerry Maddoux said: ^^^ If the two Democrats win their races, this puts the House, Senate and Oval all Democrat. That will in turn spur several developments that will virtually remove chances for a meaningful third party or a re-takeover by the Republicans. It will also ruin U.S. oil and gas. 1. Democrats will have the power to bring into statehood both Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia, which would give them about forty more representatives in the House and four new members of Senate. This would crush the Republican Party. 2. Biden would have a clear mandate to ban fracking, not only on federal lands but all lands, which would demolish approx. 75% of U.S. oil and gas, but would give him a clear path to rapid buildout of renewables on a grand scale. This is a crunch moment in America. Oil and gas ⛽️ will be around for many decades. Nat gas in particular has its best days ahead of it. There will be 10’s of millions of electric cars that will need electricity. While oil may lose market share in transporation, that’s just one part of oils market. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roch + 537 DR January 6, 2021 9 hours ago, Boat said: With 7% of black voters supporting Trump your vision of the future of GA might be a little optimistic. In early voting the Dems are ahead 4-5 pointss. The Trump effect. My vision of Georgia is it has become a blue state. The Gov and Secretary of state are currently Republicans. They will loose their Primaries. I'll bet the farm on that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roch + 537 DR January 6, 2021 (edited) On 1/5/2021 at 8:21 PM, Boat said: Oil and gas ⛽️ will be around for many decades. Nat gas in particular has its best days ahead of it. There will be 10’s of millions of electric cars that will need electricity. While oil may lose market share in transporation, that’s just one part of oils market. But it's the overwhelmingly biggest share of the oil market. They are not going to throw out all the ICE vehicles. But oil demand will be down enough to make it a very competitive business, a real market based industry. Unlike today's monopolistic price fixing one. As little as 3% to 5% of vehicles on the road will temper the price of a bbl of oil. Approx 1 Billion cars + 400k commercial vehicles = 1.4 Billion vehicles on the road 1.4 X 3% = 42 million EVs to temper price of oil. Project car sales 2021 = 68.1 million Projected commercial vehicles 2021 = 24.7 million Once EV sales hit inflection point will not take long to get to 3% - 5% . Edited January 7, 2021 by Roch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites