Symmetry + 109 KC March 22, 2021 7 hours ago, JoMack said: So, "someday" is now. Well your time frame has epired then - he is still POTUS. Added to list. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roch + 537 DR March 23, 2021 South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem (R) caved to threats from NCAA and Amazon and tabled the State bill that would have saved women sports from competition from biological males. Can't run for President of the United States if you are easily deterred by these "woke" organizations. Too bad . I thought we could get rid of this pitiful Dem Administration if the Republicans nominated a strong team for 2024. First Nikki Haley killed her Presidential ambitions by trashing Trump. Now Gov Kristi Noem shows her weakness. The U.S. can't afford a weak GOP President. Democrats can get away with that (ie Biden) . Not GOP. Is all hope lost ? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 March 23, 2021 12 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: One only has to ask themselves what type of President would displace the already 100's of thousands homeless citizens and soon to homeless with citizens from a foreign nation? A man or administration with no cognitive abilities, a man with no rationality, and man detached from reality of his station in life Totally disenfranchised from the concept of "We The People" of the Untied States Of America. Luckily the MSM continually plays cover for Xiden 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 March 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Roch said: South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem (R) caved to threats from NCAA and Amazon and tabled the State bill that would have saved women sports from competition from biological males. Can't run for President of the United States if you are easily deterred by these "woke" organizations. Too bad . I thought we could get rid of this pitiful Dem Administration if the Republicans nominated a strong team for 2024. First Nikki Haley killed her Presidential ambitions by trashing Trump. Now Gov Kristi Noem shows her weakness. The U.S. can't afford a weak GOP President. Democrats can get away with that (ie Biden) . Not GOP. Is all hope lost ? As Stalin said, "Who votes doesn't matter, who counts the votes matters". It won't matter who runs, if they get away with cheating once, nothing will stop them from cheating every single time. It's just the way Demoncrats roll 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 March 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ward Smith said: Luckily the MSM continually plays cover for Xiden Upcoming UFO report will be 'difficult to explain,' former national intelligence official says Dustin Barnes USA TODAY https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2021/03/22/ufo-sightings-made-public-new-report-former-intel-chief-says/4802595001/ 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 March 23, 2021 Sorry I haven't been around much lately, gents. Unfortunately, for this presidency, there is so much going down the shitter so fast that it would be hard to highlight it all on here anyway. Fortunately, there are also actions taking place in some states that are in fact encouraging for the next go around, so I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope some sanity can be restored on a whole slew of major issues, starting next year. People heard day in and day out from the MSM what Trump was supposedly up to; now they are seeing it in reality with Biden, except on the border, since they banned the media from reporting down there. Fortunately some reporters are going to the Mexico side to report, and it's working to some degree. I also read a report from a Dem Senator, which was a surprise, but apparently he couldn't hold his tongue after he toured the place for himself. What a mess, and it's happening so fast.... I sure hope the citizenry is paying attention and taking action behind the scenes to intervene next year. I also hope the die-hard Libs are waking up from their woke slumber. Do any of you see signs of that happening? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerry Maddoux + 3,627 GM March 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, Dan Warnick said: I also hope the die-hard Libs are waking up from their woke slumber. Do any of you see signs of that happening? No. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 March 23, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gerry Maddoux said: No. Actually it is my belief the true liberal's are rolling their eyes and holding there heads in frustration. This so called progressive socialist community is setting the agenda. A mix of the Burn crowd and god only knows. This will pass but quite a bit of chaos will be done. It is merely a matter stopping delaying there agendas till the midterms. There is a grave reasoning for those Presidental executive orders aka fiats and the brazen efforts to quash the filibusters..this adim fears the midterms..it's the final go big or go home. I should say I live in a historical liberal community, now full of progressive socialist's. The libs as they were historically known are not at all happy with Oregon's experience into such a shift...not at all. Edited March 23, 2021 by Eyes Wide Open 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 March 23, 2021 Here comes the Socialist agenda....And there version of COVID RELIEF.. Evanston, Illinois first in US to pay reparations to Black residents https://www.foxnews.com/politics/evanston-first-in-us-to-pay-reparations 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symmetry + 109 KC March 23, 2021 Stock markets are stronger than ever! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,323 RG March 24, 2021 (edited) Ward, tell me again how Trump was robbed? Lawyers for pro-Trump attorney Sidney Powell said that "no reasonable person" would believe that her false conspiracies about the 2020 election were "truly statements of fact." The argument came in a court filing asking a federal judge to dismiss the $1.3 billion defamation suit filed against Powell by Dominion Voting Systems. For starters that was not the argument I expected from the Republican brain trust. We lied, you know we lied, we were accused of lying, we attacked the capital on a lie, we tried to take over the country on a lie, we still support the lie, we have a developing string of lies to draw from a pool of lies. We encourage lying as long as it’s loyal to Trump lies. Remember to spread the lies but not really believe them in case you go to court. All those in Congress that supported the lies are now labeled as irresponsible for believing the lies by their own lawyers? The level of admitted stupidity is overwhelming. Maybe a new round of funding and a new PR firm needs to be hired? https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/03/23/pro-trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-election-theft-claims-not-statements-of-fact.html Edited March 24, 2021 by Boat 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 March 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, Boat said: Ward, tell me again how Trump was robbed? Lawyers for pro-Trump attorney Sidney Powell said that "no reasonable person" would believe that her false conspiracies about the 2020 election were "truly statements of fact." The argument came in a court filing asking a federal judge to dismiss the $1.3 billion defamation suit filed against Powell by Dominion Voting Systems. For starters that was not the argument I expected from the Republican brain trust. We lied, you know we lied, we were accused of lying, we attacked the capital on a lie, we tried to take over the country on a lie, we still support the lie, we have a developing string of lies to draw from a pool of lies. We encourage lying as long as it’s loyal to Trump lies. Remember to spread the lies but not really believe them in case you go to court. All those in Congress that supported the lies are now labeled as irresponsible for believing the lies by their own lawyers? The level of admitted stupidity is overwhelming. Maybe a new round of funding and a new PR firm needs to be hired? https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/03/23/pro-trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-election-theft-claims-not-statements-of-fact.html As quoted from CNBC, no less! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,323 RG March 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Dan Warnick said: As quoted from CNBC, no less! This story will go worldwide in hours. Sidney couldn’t find lawyers to push election fraud. Just like Trump and the Republican Party can’t. Your party is United in conspiracy and scams, anything for power. A sad state of affairs. Eisenhower is rolling in his grave. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symmetry + 109 KC March 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Boat said: Ward, tell me again how Trump was robbed? Lawyers for pro-Trump attorney Sidney Powell said that "no reasonable person" would believe that her false conspiracies about the 2020 election were "truly statements of fact." The argument came in a court filing asking a federal judge to dismiss the $1.3 billion defamation suit filed against Powell by Dominion Voting Systems. For starters that was not the argument I expected from the Republican brain trust. We lied, you know we lied, we were accused of lying, we attacked the capital on a lie, we tried to take over the country on a lie, we still support the lie, we have a developing string of lies to draw from a pool of lies. We encourage lying as long as it’s loyal to Trump lies. Remember to spread the lies but not really believe them in case you go to court. All those in Congress that supported the lies are now labeled as irresponsible for believing the lies by their own lawyers? The level of admitted stupidity is overwhelming. Maybe a new round of funding and a new PR firm needs to be hired? https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/03/23/pro-trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-election-theft-claims-not-statements-of-fact.html Obviously Ward is not a reasonable person. Watch he will retain the false belief even after they themselves admit it was ridiculous. Then : "Release the Kraken!" Now: "Only an idiot would have believed that nonsense." That is seriously her defence.... "[the cult are idiots and shouldn't have believed me.]" 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 March 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, Boat said: This story will go worldwide in hours. Sidney couldn’t find lawyers to push election fraud. Just like Trump and the Republican Party can’t. Your party is United in conspiracy and scams, anything for power. A sad state of affairs. Eisenhower is rolling in his grave. Her insurance company gave very explicit orders concerning her defence. The ridiculous amount in the lawsuit, which a decent judge would have thrown out on its face forced their hands, as Dominion knew it would. The deck is so obscenely stacked right now only an idiot couldn't see it. Might someone introduce you to a mirror? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 March 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Symmetry said: Obviously Ward is not a reasonable person. Watch he will retain the false belief even after they themselves admit it was ridiculous. Then : "Release the Kraken!" Now: "Only an idiot would have believed that nonsense." That is seriously her defence.... "[the cult are idiots and shouldn't have believed me.]" She is not saying anything. She isn't the lawyer. Her lawyers are arguing the case, they aren't working for her they work for her insurance company. That company is more then happy to throw her IL under the bus if it alleviates their exposure 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 March 24, 2021 29 minutes ago, Boat said: This story will go worldwide in hours. Sidney couldn’t find lawyers to push election fraud. Just like Trump and the Republican Party can’t. Your party is United in conspiracy and scams, anything for power. A sad state of affairs. Eisenhower is rolling in his grave. Thanks for letting us know the MSM, after some 60 MONTHS of biased, anti-conservative, anti-Trump, woeful blind-eye misrepresentation of the truth, on any matter, large or small, and especially in ignoring the mountain of evidence uncovered and still being uncovered in the U.S. Presidential Election, has changed its tactics and is now reporting the truth. Not. This time, like so many times in the past, the story has been distorted by CNN and printed pretty much verbatim by the rest of the pack. And then there was the actual filing that Sidney Powell's legal defense filed: Fake News CNN Headline Distorts Powell’s Libel Defense Headlines can often give readers a false perception of the content of an article. This is particularly true with Internet articles, such as the CNN article that purported to report accurately on Sidney Powell’s legal defense in the $1.3 billion defamation lawsuit filed by election-machine giant Dominion Voting Systems. It is well known that many people read the headlines of Internet articles without actually reading the articles, and then draw their conclusions from the headlines alone. As almost all headlines one sees when opening Google, Yahoo, or AOL e-mail accounts are slanted in favor of the liberal position, it is not surprising that many readers draw conclusions that liberals are good and conservatives are bad. CNN’s headline read, “Sidney Powell argues in new court filing that no reasonable people would believe her election fraud claims.” The problem is that the story itself does not justify this headline. It is not an accurate description of the defense offered by Powell’s lawyers in their motion to dismiss Dominion’s defamation suit. Actually the Powell defense filing makes a number of legal arguments, including the claim that reasonable people would not assume that the allegedly libelous statements are fact, but instead conclusions or opinions Powell has drawn based upon her reading of the evidence. Unfortunately, this argument is missed by someone who simply reads the CNN headline, leaving the reader with the false impression that Powell made statements that she knew to be untrue. As the actual filing in Powell’s defense stated, “Analyzed under these factors, and even assuming, arguendo, that each of the statements alleged in the Complaint could be proved true or false, no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact.” In other words, Powell formed an opinion after reviewing the evidence, and then expressed that opinion. Whether another person would form the identical opinion after reviewing the same evidence is irrelevant, because Powell’s statements were her opinion, right or wrong. “Reasonable people understand that the language of the political arena,” the defense filing asserts, “is often vituperative, abusive and inexact,” adding, “political statements are inherently prone to exaggeration and hyperbole.” Dominion Voting Systems has also sued Mike Lindell of My Pillow and Trump adviser Rudy Giuliani for allegedly defaming the company by citing their role in the 2020 presidential election, with disputed results that favored Democrat Joe Biden over Republican Donald Trump. In the Lindell lawsuit, Dominion argues that the accusations “have caused irreparable harm to Dominion’s good reputation and threatened the safety of our employees and customers.” The only customers of Dominion’s voting machines, it should be noted, are governments, who conduct elections. As such, Dominion could reasonably be considered a public figure. Under American law, it is very difficult for public figures to win libel suits. If it were easy for a public figure to win a defamation suit, it would cause great inhibition for anyone speaking out publicly against a public figure, thus placing a chill on the protections of the First Amendment. In its article on the Dominion suit against Lindell, the Mises Institute’s Ryan McMaken calls the Dominion suits “garbage,” adding that if Dominion were to prevail, it “opens a Pandora’s box of legal strategies that can be employed to silence people the regime and its allies find to be inconvenient.” McMaken argues, “Dominion is a private company in name only, and in reality is a de facto government agency.” As such, they “enjoy monopoly privileges and are funded through the coercive collection of taxes. Even the most blue-pilled sympathizer can probably see the danger that arises from also granting this monopolistic agency the right to sue people for criticizing it.” What sort of election hardware and software used by the various state governments to conduct its elections is a legitimate public debate issue. A person, such as Sidney Powell, should be free to question the use of Dominion’s machines, or the machines of any other company, to conduct elections, without fear of being slapped with a libel suit. A person — such as Powell — who has examined the evidence of how well the Dominion machines performed in their ostensible job of conducting a fair election and has concluded that the machines failed to do that, also has a constitutionally protected right of free speech to publicly express that opinion. As a corollary of that, Powell — or any other critic of Dominion, such as Lindell or Giuliani — should be able to express an opinion as to whether that failure was a result of incompetence, or malevolence, or both. As the Powell defense filing explained, “Dominion has publicly held itself out as a public figure,” as it brags that more than 40 percent of U.S. voters use its election equipment. The defense filing cited Dominion Chief Executive John Poulos, who expressed concern that the lies told about Dominion and government election officials also harmed the credibility of U.S. elections. This is a classic example of attempting to have it both ways. In one instance, Dominion argues that it is some sort of private business, but in the next instance argues that Powell’s opinion has “harmed the credibility of U.S. elections.” One would think that the “credibility of U.S. elections” is a legitimate public issue, and is thus protected free speech. After Powell — or Lindell, Giuliani, or some guy in a barber shop — has expressed the opinion that Dominion should not have any role in the conduct of American elections, Dominion or one of its defenders has an equal right to challenge that opinion in the court of public opinion. But filing defamation lawsuits intended to silence its critics is a different matter altogether. In the case New York Times v. Sullivan, the Supreme Court held that any public figure suing a detractor for defamation is under obligation to prove that person they are suing not only made a false statement, but that the person made the false statement knowing it was false, or that the person made the statement with reckless disregard for the truth. CNN’s misleading headline could lead a reader to conclude that Powell’s defense is that she knew it was false, but that no reasonable person would believe her remarks. That is not Sidney Powell’s defense in this particular case. On the contrary, she contended that Dominion was a major part of an election, the fairness of which has been questioned by millions of Americans. If someone disagrees, they are free to do so. However, legitimate debate about whether Dominion should continue to provide election machines that are not trusted by millions of Americans would also be helped by better reporting by CNN and other news outlets. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symmetry + 109 KC March 24, 2021 Called it! Ward holds onto his false beliefs. Her lawyers are her lawyers. They might be paid for by insurance but they represent her interests by law. They clearly decided this was their best hope. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symmetry + 109 KC March 24, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Dan Warnick said: Thanks for letting us know the MSM Your "news" will find the same defence, just warp the reporting. I know it hurts being called stupid. Why continue to defend them? So fun! "The cult are stupid" defence. Gold. Edited March 24, 2021 by Symmetry 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 March 25, 2021 (edited) The most popular president in history, live on the following programs. Look at those stellar numbers! Stunning, really. Edited March 26, 2021 by Dan Warnick stellor to stellar 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 March 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, Dan Warnick said: The US citizens are being gamed by forces outside this country. As to who that I do not know. These forces mean business this will not end well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symmetry + 109 KC March 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said: The US citizens are being gamed by forces outside this country. As to who that I do not know. The Borg. The realization you are losing is refreshing. Edited March 25, 2021 by Symmetry 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 March 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Symmetry said: The Borg. The realization you are losing is refreshing. Yet again outing yourself as @Enthalpic. Such a tool. Meanwhile your fearless leader 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites