Meredith Poor + 898 MP March 16, 2021 (edited) https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-03-16/what-countries-will-fight-over-when-green-energy-dominates?srnd=premium&sref=RzXyyOXY "Global inequalities and rivalries will instead likely center on access to technology and finance, standard setting and control of key raw materials." 'Green' energy is one baseline for 'quality of life'. Others are affordable housing, education, and health care. It's also helpful to have reliable clean water and not being forced to spend hours stuck in traffic. Educated and productive workers, particularly those with children, are most likely to bail out of absolutist regimes that demand unqualified loyalty to the ruling elite or who promote or maintain ethnic disparities. Thus the 'fight' will be over people, in particular the educated and productive working age adults. This 'fight' will take the form of child care incentives, business location, and favorable political climate. Relatively few countries fit this description (many states in the US fail miserably on this criteria). Many of the countries that represent the 'best fit' have severe limits on immigrants. Many of these 'wars' will be in city council meetings, state legislatures, airports, border crossings, open ocean rescue, and peacekeeping by international coalitions. Edited March 16, 2021 by Meredith Poor Further qualify the location of 'wars'. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerry Maddoux + 3,627 GM March 16, 2021 Good questions posed. The general assumption is that there will be no unintended consequences of a dominant green energy. I'm not sure that's a warranted assumption. I'm not well enough versed to speculate on what those unintended consequences might be, but I am old enough to know that energy doesn't come free. Right now the world has access to a fraction of the REE's that are needed for production of renewables energy-generating platforms. Like the article says, there is going to be a mad scramble to obtain those, to gain a competitive advantage. That's likely to bring on conflict. And that totally ignores the climate. There are about 12-14,000 wind turbines in the wind corridor of Texas. No matter how unpopular it might appear, one should ask the question, "Did this wind disturbance help bring down winds from the polar ice cap?" Yes, yes, I understand that the encircling warm-air jet stream winds that corral the polar winds get weaker in the winter, and that the polar winds may break through that encircling barrier. But Texas has only gotten this cold in 2011 (almost but not quite) and last month, when the density of wind energy was 10% and 20% of the total grid, respectively. What will happen when we have 500,000 wind turbines in the central part of America, the wind corridor? And what will happen when someone actually places massive solar farms in Almeria, where they grow all the vegetables for Europe in southern Spain? Does anyone actually think there's not going to be a price paid for this? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith boyd + 178 KB March 17, 2021 When primary energy sources are green, wars will be fought over securing oil supplies. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 March 17, 2021 (edited) Green Energy dominance, odd in Obama's first term the coin phrase was The End Of Big Oil. Move that forward to today Obama 3.0 and it is Green Energy Dominance? Watch the China closely, they are the center proproganda source for everything green, after all right now they do possess 70% of the green mfg industry...at the same time they possess minimal oil based resources...imagine that. It would seem that cannot play the game to much longer so changing the rules may well fit into their narrative. Edited March 17, 2021 by Eyes Wide Open 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,325 RG April 3, 2021 What if solar was installed 30% over consumption during the day and basically provide free energy when the sun shined. Yep, refineries and steel plants along with concrete. The drop in price for everything would more than make up for the cost of the solar. Build a huge battery storage facility? Fill it for free. Got a electric car? Fuel is free. This is my kind of disruption. AC and free 😎 cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites