Ecocharger + 1,546 DL June 3, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 5:50 AM, Jay McKinsey said: So you admit defeat. I accept your capitulation. Expand I accept that you have capitulated to fossil fuel vehicles, one of which is parked in your very own driveway, Jay. Thank you for acknowledging my victory by your purchase. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,491 June 3, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 5:52 AM, Ecocharger said: Your usual nonsense, Jay. The reality is that the strength of the fossil fuel markets is sustaining what is left of the American economy. Biden & Co. are planning huge taxes to try and bail out the government from its reckless spending binges. The stock market? Look at this, https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/How-Long-Will-The-Epic-Rally-In-Energy-Stocks-Last.html Expand And Goldman predicts that Goldman Sachs predicts the surplus will rein in the skyrocketing cost of battery metals. The analysts predict the annual average price of lithium will peak at about $54,000 per metric ton this year—nearly nine times higher than it was in 2020. But they believe the price will quickly drop to $11,000 per metric ton by 2024, which is (merely) double the 2020 price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 June 3, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 5:50 AM, Jay McKinsey said: So you admit defeat. I accept your capitulation. Expand Jay It a time for your capitulation, the quad is now forming in Asia. Another Trump policy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,491 June 3, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 5:56 AM, Ecocharger said: I accept that you have capitulated to fossil fuel vehicles, one of which is parked in your very own driveway, Jay. Thank you for acknowledging my victory by your purchase. Expand My purchase was 12 years ago. The Model S was still 2 years in the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,491 June 3, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 5:58 AM, Eyes Wide Open said: Jay It a time for your capitulation, the quad is now forming in Asia. Another Trump policy. Expand Post it in politics, irrelevant to energy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,546 DL June 3, 2022 (edited) On 6/3/2022 at 5:58 AM, Jay McKinsey said: And Goldman predicts that Goldman Sachs predicts the surplus will rein in the skyrocketing cost of battery metals. The analysts predict the annual average price of lithium will peak at about $54,000 per metric ton this year—nearly nine times higher than it was in 2020. But they believe the price will quickly drop to $11,000 per metric ton by 2024, which is (merely) double the 2020 price. Expand The reality of what is happening defies that prediction, in the very words quoted here. "They believe"....pathetic. Here is the reality, "Energy is leading the S&P 500, jumping by 57% YTD. Out of the top ten best-performing stocks in the S&P 500 year to date, nine are energy companies" On 6/3/2022 at 6:00 AM, Jay McKinsey said: My purchase was 12 years ago. The Model S was still 2 years in the future. Expand Your fossil fuel car still sits there in your driveway, it has not been replaced by an EV. That acknowledges my victory. Edited June 3, 2022 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,491 June 3, 2022 (edited) On 6/3/2022 at 6:01 AM, Ecocharger said: The reality of what is happening defies that prediction, in the very words quoted here. "They believe"....pathetic. Here is the reality, "Energy is leading the S&P 500, jumping by 57% YTD. Out of the top ten best-performing stocks in the S&P 500 year to date, nine are energy companies" Your fossil fuel car still sits there in your driveway, it has not been replaced by an EV. That acknowledges my victory. Expand Because of a war time shock. Only an imbecile thinks that it is a long term trend. High oil prices are just driving up the demand for EVs. Edited June 3, 2022 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,546 DL June 3, 2022 (edited) On 6/3/2022 at 6:05 AM, Jay McKinsey said: Because of a war time shock. Only an imbecile thinks that it is a long term trend. High oil prices are just driving up the demand for EVs. Expand Nonsense, Jay, the war merely revealed the underlying strength and power of the fossil fuel sector, which is the only segment still propping up the American economy. Old Biden is hanging on to the fossil fuels sector with the hope of massive tax grabs to help bail out his wild spending plans. Your own fossil fuel car sits in your driveway, a mute acknowledgment of the victory of fossil fuels. Edited June 3, 2022 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,491 June 3, 2022 (edited) On 6/3/2022 at 6:12 AM, Ecocharger said: Nonsense, Jay, the war merely revealed the underlying strength and power of the fossil fuel sector, which is the only segment still propping up the American economy. Old Biden is hanging on the fossil fuels sector with the hope of massive tax grabs to help bail out his wild spending plans. Expand No the war showed fossil fuels last gasp. That is why Putin knew it was now or never because the Russian economy was rapidly being ramped out of existence. Now the effort to get rid of fossil fuels has gone into overdrive. Edited June 3, 2022 by Jay McKinsey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,546 DL June 3, 2022 (edited) On 6/3/2022 at 6:15 AM, Jay McKinsey said: No the war showed fossil fuels last gasp. That is why Putin knew it was now or never because the Russian economy was rapidly being ramped out of existence. Expand Your logic is counterfactual, Jay, the stock markets are ramping up in the fossil fuel stocks, showing that smart investors are betting on oil and gasoline for the long haul. You yourself park a fossil fuel vehicle in your own driveway, which acknowledges the supremacy of fossil fuels. Here is your pork pie hat, Jay. https://www.trendhim.ca/paolo-pork-pie-moda-panama-hat-p.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsq6Ov9GQ-AIVFJJbCh0wwQWhEAQYAiABEgJGJfD_BwE Edited June 3, 2022 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,491 June 3, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 6:17 AM, Ecocharger said: Your logic is counterfactual, Jay, the stock markets are ramping up in the fossil fuel stocks, showing that smart investors are betting on oil and gasoline for the long haul. You yourself park a fossil fuel vehicle in your own driveway, which acknowledges the supremacy of fossil fuels. Expand The stock market is notorious for being short sighted and quarterlies based. Clearly you never studied economics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,546 DL June 3, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 6:20 AM, Jay McKinsey said: The stock market is notorious for being short sighted and quarterlies based. Clearly you never studied economics. Expand The stock market reflects underlying demand forces in the American economy, Jay. Fossil fuels are hot. You park a fossil fuel vehicle in your own driveway, which cements my point. And you have to rely on me not just for basic financial analysis, but I have to correct your nomenclature for haberdashery. This is what is known as a "pork pie hat", like the one which you wear. https://www.bon-clic-bon-genre.eu/mon-porkpie-ete.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,491 June 3, 2022 (edited) On 6/3/2022 at 6:30 AM, Ecocharger said: The stock market reflects underlying demand forces in the American economy, Jay. Fossil fuels are hot. You park a fossil fuel vehicle in your own driveway, which cements my point. And you have to rely on me not just for basic financial analysis, but I have to correct your nomenclature for haberdashery. This is what is known as a "pork pie hat", like the one which you wear. https://www.bon-clic-bon-genre.eu/mon-porkpie-ete.htm Expand Yet EV sales just keep increasing at a fantastic rate. Hand made Panama Fedoras are much more difficult to predict because dummies like you don't know what is going on. Edited June 3, 2022 by Jay McKinsey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,546 DL June 3, 2022 (edited) On 6/3/2022 at 6:50 AM, Jay McKinsey said: Yet EV sales just keep increasing at a fantastic rate. Hand made Panama Fedoras are much more difficult to predict because of dummies like you don't know what is going on. Expand EVs are less than 1% of the vehicle market value, not even a marginal interest. What counts is the huge fossil fuel sector which is currently propping up the American economy and providing a taxation target for a desperate American government bent on wild spending sprees. Irresponsible government spending will soon bring about a cleansing result in the midterms. Yes, that pork pie hat which you sport in that picture above is a genuine artifact from pre-WWI fashion. Edited June 3, 2022 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,491 June 3, 2022 (edited) On 6/3/2022 at 6:54 AM, Ecocharger said: EVs are less than 1% of the vehicle market value, not even a marginal interest. What counts is the huge fossil fuel sector which is currently propping up the American economy and providing a taxation target for a desperate American government bent on wild spending sprees. Irresponsible government spending will soon bring about a cleansing result in the midterms. Yes, that pork pie hat which you sport in that picture above is a genuine artifact from pre-WWI fashion. Expand You are clueless and you have no idea what a straw Fedora or fashion are. This is my hat: Edited June 3, 2022 by Jay McKinsey 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,291 DM June 3, 2022 (edited) On 6/3/2022 at 6:30 AM, Ecocharger said: The stock market reflects underlying demand forces in the American economy, Jay. Fossil fuels are hot. You park a fossil fuel vehicle in your own driveway, which cements my point. And you have to rely on me not just for basic financial analysis, but I have to correct your nomenclature for haberdashery. This is what is known as a "pork pie hat", like the one which you wear. https://www.bon-clic-bon-genre.eu/mon-porkpie-ete.htm Expand The stock market reflects underlying demand forces in the American economy,???? Is this why the market cap for Tesla is 729 Billion dollars and Ford is only 54 Billion????? demand forces makes Tesla worth over 13 times Ford....Got it Edited June 3, 2022 by notsonice 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,546 DL June 4, 2022 (edited) On 6/3/2022 at 4:56 PM, Jay McKinsey said: You are clueless and you have no idea what a straw Fedora or fashion are. This is my hat: Expand You can keep it. That is not the same hat as in your photograph. In the photo, you are wearing a pork pie hat. Edited June 4, 2022 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,546 DL June 4, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 8:13 PM, notsonice said: The stock market reflects underlying demand forces in the American economy,???? Is this why the market cap for Tesla is 729 Billion dollars and Ford is only 54 Billion????? demand forces makes Tesla worth over 13 times Ford....Got it Expand Market value for vehicles of EVs is less than 1%. That is not even a marginal player. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,491 June 4, 2022 (edited) On 6/4/2022 at 1:18 AM, Ecocharger said: You can keep it. That is not the same hat as in your photograph. In the photo, you are wearing a pork pie hat. Expand No you are just a clueless buffoon. Same hat. Here is the uncropped version of my avatar photo and I will keep it. It is a Goorin Bros. Edited June 4, 2022 by Jay McKinsey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 June 4, 2022 On 6/4/2022 at 1:34 AM, Jay McKinsey said: No you are just a clueless buffoon. Same hat. Here is the uncropped version of my avatar photo and I will keep it. It is a Goorin Bros. Expand Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,491 June 4, 2022 On 6/4/2022 at 2:25 AM, Eyes Wide Open said: Expand Nah, just correcting stupidity. Just like I always correct you. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 June 4, 2022 On 6/4/2022 at 2:27 AM, Jay McKinsey said: Nah, just correcting stupidity. Just like I always correct you. Expand Why thankyou for your generous introduction.... America’s Summer of Rolling Blackouts Green energy policies are making the nation’s electric-power grid increasingly unstable. https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-summer-of-rolling-blackouts-green-energy-grid-north-american-electric-reliability-corporation-11653683348 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,491 June 4, 2022 On 6/4/2022 at 2:36 AM, Eyes Wide Open said: Why thankyou for your generous introduction.... America’s Summer of Rolling Blackouts Green energy policies are making the nation’s electric-power grid increasingly unstable. https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-summer-of-rolling-blackouts-green-energy-grid-north-american-electric-reliability-corporation-11653683348 Expand Hasn't happened. Although failing fossil fuel plants, particularly in Texas, are a concern. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 June 4, 2022 On 6/4/2022 at 2:52 AM, Jay McKinsey said: Hasn't happened. Although failing fossil fuel plants, particularly in Texas, are a concern. Expand BUT OF COURSE! Once again that analytical mind of yours is in top form. An uncertain future for America’s wind energy capital About 2,200 wind turbines were built in Texas in 2017, more than ever before, as wind industry companies try to snag billions of dollars in federal tax subsidies before they expire at the end of 2019. This has set off a wind rush nationwide, but it’s also set up a fight at the state level to regulate this overlooked industry without clipping its wings. https://publicintegrity.org/politics/state-politics/an-uncertain-future-for-americas-wind-energy-capital/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 June 4, 2022 (edited) On 6/4/2022 at 2:52 AM, Jay McKinsey said: Hasn't happened. Although failing fossil fuel plants, particularly in Texas, are a concern. Expand Deregulated energy markets made Texas a clean energy giant. https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/457353-deregulated-energy-markets-made-texas-a-clean-energy-giant/ The Kracken Arises...Albeit Green. Edited June 4, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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