GREEN NEW DEAL = BLIZZARD OF LIES

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C02 is destroying the earth cooking it like an egg. Current evidence is it is worses then we thought. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEZ9HFlqzms

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CO2 is 0.4% at present. In Cretacean period it was 3.0% with of course higher temperatures. So even if our industrial activities will increase CO2 to 0.8% till 2100 it will mean 1 Centigrade plus for all of us, we can challenge this, no problem. My Poland will be even more pleasant without harsh winters.

 

 

 

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typo

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49 minutes ago, Marcin2 said:

CO2 is 0.4% at present. In Cretacean period it was 3.0% with of course higher temperatures. So even if our industrial activities will increase CO2 to 0.8% till 2100 it will mean 1 Centigrade plus for all of us, we can challenge this, no problem. My Poland will be even more pleasant without harsh winters.

Some do not want to challenge the problem and instead pretend it is non-existent.  At least you accept that you are damaging the planet, you just happen to live in a cool area so are ok with until you die (<2100).  Some humans might want to live past 2100, we will be dead but the damage we did may be unrepairable by that point.

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7 hours ago, Marcin2 said:

CO2 is 0.4% at present. In Cretacean period it was 3.0% with of course higher temperatures. So even if our industrial activities will increase CO2 to 0.8% till 2100 it will mean 1 Centigrade plus for all of us, we can challenge this, no problem. My Poland will be even more pleasant without harsh winters.

 

 

 

Atmospheric anthropogenic CO2 contributes almost nothing to climate change, something like below 1/10th of 1%. Almost nothing.

Trying to inflate this into a crucial issue for the planet is a sick joke. Just political chicanery.

But, no one ever got poor by betting on human gullibility. The politicians know that.

Edited March 1 by Ecocharger

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25 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

But, no one ever got poor by betting on human gullibility. The politicians know that.

That historical fact has just been broken. Another first and last for the Green Dream...Destroying Normality on every civilized nation on earth.

The Multibillion-Dollar Clean Energy Bet Gone Wrong

Offshore wind turbines are proving too risky for many utilities

S. power companies raced to get in on the offshore wind boom a few years ago. Now some are rushing to get out.

Already, utilities have unloaded pieces of a planned New Jersey wind farm and a yet-to-be-built seabed off Massachusetts. Now, “for sale” signs sit on stakes in four developments aimed at electrifying hundreds of thousands of homes in New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island and Virginia.

 

https://www.wsj.com/business/energy-oil/renewable-energy-wind-utility-companies-reconsider-329df2b7

 

Orsted Books $4 Billion in Impairments, Walks Away From Two U.S. Offshore Projects

And now to Validate your point Ecocharger....it's complicated as they say...

Wind Farms Are Overstating Their Output — And Consumers Are Paying For It

Dozens of British wind farms run by some of Europe’s largest energy companies have routinely overestimated how much power they’ll produce, adding millions of pounds a year to consumers’ electricity bills, according to market records and interviews with power traders.

These extra costs are linked to a growing problem with Britain’s outdated electricity network: On blustery days, too much wind power risks overloading the system, and the grid operator must respond by paying some firms not to generate. This “curtailment” costs consumers hundreds of millions of pounds each year.

Adding to that expense, some wind farm operators exaggerate how much energy they say they intend to produce, which boosts the payments they receive for turning off, according to nine people — traders, academics and market experts — most of whom agreed to discuss this controversial behavior only on condition of anonymity.

In effect, they said, the grid has paid some wind farms not to generate power that they wouldn’t have produced anyway.

Bloomberg News analyzed 30 million records from 2018 through June 2023 to compare wind operators’ daily forecasts of the energy they planned to generate to their actual production when they weren’t curtailed. Out of 121 wind farms in the analysis, 40 overstated their output by 10% or more on average, and 27 of those overestimated by at least 20%

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-uk-wind-farms-overstate-output/

Edited March 1 by Eyes Wide Open

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1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

That historical fact has just been broken. Another first and last for the Green Dream...Destroying Normality on every civilized nation on earth.

The Multibillion-Dollar Clean Energy Bet Gone Wrong

Offshore wind turbines are proving too risky for many utilities

S. power companies raced to get in on the offshore wind boom a few years ago. Now some are rushing to get out.

Already, utilities have unloaded pieces of a planned New Jersey wind farm and a yet-to-be-built seabed off Massachusetts. Now, “for sale” signs sit on stakes in four developments aimed at electrifying hundreds of thousands of homes in New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island and Virginia.

 

https://www.wsj.com/business/energy-oil/renewable-energy-wind-utility-companies-reconsider-329df2b7

 

Orsted Books $4 Billion in Impairments, Walks Away From Two U.S. Offshore Projects

And now to Validate your point Ecocharger....it's complicated as they say...

Wind Farms Are Overstating Their Output — And Consumers Are Paying For It

Dozens of British wind farms run by some of Europe’s largest energy companies have routinely overestimated how much power they’ll produce, adding millions of pounds a year to consumers’ electricity bills, according to market records and interviews with power traders.

These extra costs are linked to a growing problem with Britain’s outdated electricity network: On blustery days, too much wind power risks overloading the system, and the grid operator must respond by paying some firms not to generate. This “curtailment” costs consumers hundreds of millions of pounds each year.

Adding to that expense, some wind farm operators exaggerate how much energy they say they intend to produce, which boosts the payments they receive for turning off, according to nine people — traders, academics and market experts — most of whom agreed to discuss this controversial behavior only on condition of anonymity.

In effect, they said, the grid has paid some wind farms not to generate power that they wouldn’t have produced anyway.

Bloomberg News analyzed 30 million records from 2018 through June 2023 to compare wind operators’ daily forecasts of the energy they planned to generate to their actual production when they weren’t curtailed. Out of 121 wind farms in the analysis, 40 overstated their output by 10% or more on average, and 27 of those overestimated by at least 20%

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-uk-wind-farms-overstate-output/

Orsted????

 

old news......they have been in financial troubles for quite a while......

They underbid/over estimated in the US and pulled out with a huge loss... 

the project they pulled out of......moving forward

Enjoy the read

https://electrek.co/2024/02/29/canceled-new-york-offshore-wind-comeback/

These canceled New York offshore wind farms totaling 1.7 GW just officially made a comeback

Michelle Lewis | Feb 29 2024 - 12:09 pm PT

 

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2 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

But, no one ever got poor by betting on human gullibility. The politicians know that.

 

Tell that to pillow man, Giuliani, Powell...

It is so easy to shoot down your silly ideas.  Try to think a bit before posting.

Edited March 2 by TailingsPond

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4 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

That historical fact has just been broken. Another first and last for the Green Dream...Destroying Normality on every civilized nation on earth.

The Multibillion-Dollar Clean Energy Bet Gone Wrong

Offshore wind turbines are proving too risky for many utilities

S. power companies raced to get in on the offshore wind boom a few years ago. Now some are rushing to get out.

Already, utilities have unloaded pieces of a planned New Jersey wind farm and a yet-to-be-built seabed off Massachusetts. Now, “for sale” signs sit on stakes in four developments aimed at electrifying hundreds of thousands of homes in New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island and Virginia.

 

https://www.wsj.com/business/energy-oil/renewable-energy-wind-utility-companies-reconsider-329df2b7

 

Orsted Books $4 Billion in Impairments, Walks Away From Two U.S. Offshore Projects

And now to Validate your point Ecocharger....it's complicated as they say...

Wind Farms Are Overstating Their Output — And Consumers Are Paying For It

Dozens of British wind farms run by some of Europe’s largest energy companies have routinely overestimated how much power they’ll produce, adding millions of pounds a year to consumers’ electricity bills, according to market records and interviews with power traders.

These extra costs are linked to a growing problem with Britain’s outdated electricity network: On blustery days, too much wind power risks overloading the system, and the grid operator must respond by paying some firms not to generate. This “curtailment” costs consumers hundreds of millions of pounds each year.

Adding to that expense, some wind farm operators exaggerate how much energy they say they intend to produce, which boosts the payments they receive for turning off, according to nine people — traders, academics and market experts — most of whom agreed to discuss this controversial behavior only on condition of anonymity.

In effect, they said, the grid has paid some wind farms not to generate power that they wouldn’t have produced anyway.

Bloomberg News analyzed 30 million records from 2018 through June 2023 to compare wind operators’ daily forecasts of the energy they planned to generate to their actual production when they weren’t curtailed. Out of 121 wind farms in the analysis, 40 overstated their output by 10% or more on average, and 27 of those overestimated by at least 20%

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-uk-wind-farms-overstate-output/

The Green plan is to create economic chaos when the futile attempts to transition to renewables inevitably fail.

The panic from the dire climate forecasts coupled with economic breakdown will create the pathway for revolutionary governments to take over.

A rather transparent scheme, like most revolutionary designs.

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1 hour ago, Ecocharger said:

The Green plan is to create economic chaos when the futile attempts to transition to renewables inevitably fail.

The panic from the dire climate forecasts coupled with economic breakdown will create the pathway for revolutionary governments to take over.

A rather transparent scheme, like most revolutionary designs.

Actually one can make things quite simple. What continent has abundant fossil fuel resources..what continent has absolutely none? 

And now I shall defer to a my redneck heritage...The EU is a broke dick dog when it comes to fossil fuel resources. Such Is Life comes to mind.

I leave that with you...my shallow mind does not have the capacity to grasp such matters.

Then there is the Russia...what a chit show that is.

Edited March 2 by Eyes Wide Open

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14 hours ago, Marcin2 said:

CO2 is 0.4% at present. In Cretacean period it was 3.0% with of course higher temperatures. So even if our industrial activities will increase CO2 to 0.8% till 2100 it will mean 1 Centigrade plus for all of us, we can challenge this, no problem. My Poland will be even more pleasant without harsh winters.

 

 

 

you obviously have no education in math or science.....

.4%.......  or 4000 PPM????? NO   it is 400 PPM today...                 .04%

 

3.0 percent or 30,000 PPM??????? NO it was 3000 PPM            .3 percent

you have no math skills

.8 percent in 2100....

temperature will be 3 degree centigrade higher than normal and the ICE caps will be half gone

we can challenge this, no problem???????????

your plan????? every has a boat????

Do they have Universities in Poland???

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3 hours ago, notsonice said:

you obviously have no education in math or science.....

.4%.......  or 4000 PPM????? NO   it is 400 PPM today...                 .04%

 

3.0 percent or 30,000 PPM??????? NO it was 3000 PPM            .3 percent

you have no math skills

.8 percent in 2100....

temperature will be 3 degree centigrade higher than normal and the ICE caps will be half gone

we can challenge this, no problem???????????

your plan????? every has a boat????

Do they have Universities in Poland???

Meanwhile here in reality, sea level rise is a perfect linear graph everywhere in the world for well over 100 years.  So much for rising temps and glaciers melting due to CO2... Gosh Golly Gee, hard REAL facts, not bull Shit "computer models"

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2 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Meanwhile here in reality, sea level rise is a perfect linear graph everywhere in the world for well over 100 years.  So much for rising temps and glaciers melting due to CO2... Gosh Golly Gee, hard REAL facts, not bull Shit "computer models"

a perfect linear graph everywhere in the world for well over 100 years.....?????????

and you do not back up your BS once again...and you are an engineer???????????

here is reality.???????...........please try to fit your straight line to the charts below........notice it is not possible

so much for your bull shit 

 

when do you predict that sea level rise will stop or decline??????? and when do you predict that CO2 levels will stop rising or decline???? so do you have a Foot in the Mouth computer model?

history and the current trends in the past couple of hundred years is not your friend 

on the chart below the lowpoint is 1890.....and the highpoint is today .....notice the current trend..........

 

https://www.sealevels.org/

 

 

Edited March 2 by notsonice

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how much will the sea level rise if the polar ice caps melt?????

about 70 meters

 

The whole world will never be underwater. But our coastlines would be very different. If all the ice covering Antarctica , Greenland, and in mountain glaciers around the world were to melt, sea level would rise about 70 meters (230 feet). The ocean would cover all the coastal cities.

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2 hours ago, notsonice said:

a perfect linear graph everywhere in the world for well over 100 years.....?????????

and you do not back up your BS once again...and you are an engineer???????????

here is reality.???????...........please try to fit your straight line to the charts below........notice it is not possible

so much for your bull shit 

 

when do you predict that sea level rise will stop or decline??????? and when do you predict that CO2 levels will stop rising or decline???? so do you have a Foot in the Mouth computer model?

history and the current trends in the past couple of hundred years is not your friend 

on the chart below the lowpoint is 1890.....and the highpoint is today .....notice the current trend..........

 

https://www.sealevels.org/

 

 

Sigh: Water: is a liquid.  Gravity works the same everywhere on earth in a consistent manner.  Yes, it gets slightly lower at the poles... Even a child knows this.  There is no such thing as cumulative tidal gauge graph unless you are a brainless chump... Once again you LIE via ignorance or omission take your pick: If you weren't a liar, or in this case most likely just DUMB, you would have put in a graph from single station: Any station from anywhere in the world with 100 years of tidal gauges.  If had done so as get this: Water is a liquid and due to gravity is level EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD, you would have seen every SINGLE station is linear. 

Water cannot rise more rapidly one place in the world compared to another. 

Here is one such link: https://external-preview.redd.it/MfiGtn24w5HS-NB9Wfc0_V1Jm1pO_4FUnMP_-BKlA4I.png?auto=webp&s=2526577c5058fa3b552a57bc57e73342526f16e8

Not that composite LIE so called "graph" drivel you posted.  Water dear friend is a liquid, it comes to level ... get this EVERYWHERE in the world at the same time with a tiny difference technically between Atlantic and Pacific.  Tidal gauges tied to land subside and rise depending on where they are and FRAUDS give "weight" to some stations more than others to get said "curved graph and hope and pray everyone is as DUMB as you are who does not know that water comes to a level due to a thing called gravity as it is a liquid.  Or who are as indoctrinated into stupid think as you are and will Stupidly never use their brain as they are too damned LAZY to look up any single Tidal Gauge station. 

There are hundreds of other simple tidal gauge samples.   Go for it. 

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6 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Meanwhile here in reality, sea level rise is a perfect linear graph everywhere in the world for well over 100 years.  So much for rising temps and glaciers melting due to CO2... Gosh Golly Gee, hard REAL facts, not bull Shit "computer models"

Yet, you can post BS from a computer... Hmm.

Do you really fully understand how your computer works?  Be honest. Consider that things beyond your understanding and ability can be done by computer models and robotics. 

Ask ChatGPT if global warming is a real concern.  Then ask it to repair a toaster.  It can do both in seconds.  AI has no bias.

"Yes, global warming is a real and pressing concern. It refers to the long-term increase in Earth's average surface temperature due to human activities, primarily the emission of greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), and nitrous oxide (N2O). These gases trap heat in the atmosphere, leading to a gradual warming of the planet.

There is a scientific consensus that human activities, particularly the burning of fossil fuels for energy and transportation, deforestation, and industrial processes, are the primary drivers of global warming. The consequences of global warming are numerous and include:

1. Climate Change: Rising temperatures lead to changes in weather patterns, such as more frequent and severe heatwaves, storms, and precipitation events. These changes can disrupt ecosystems, agriculture, and water supplies.

2. Melting Ice Caps and Glaciers: Higher temperatures cause polar ice caps and glaciers to melt, contributing to rising sea levels. This can lead to coastal erosion, loss of habitat for wildlife, and increased risk of flooding in coastal areas.

3. Ocean Acidification: Increased CO2 levels in the atmosphere also lead to higher levels of CO2 in the oceans, causing them to become more acidic. This can harm marine life, including coral reefs, shellfish, and other marine organisms.

4. Loss of Biodiversity: Changes in climate and habitat loss due to deforestation can lead to the extinction of plant and animal species. Loss of biodiversity can have cascading effects on ecosystems and human societies.

5. Health Impacts: Global warming can also have direct and indirect effects on human health. Heatwaves can cause heat-related illnesses and deaths, while changes in weather patterns can lead to the spread of diseases like malaria and dengue fever.

Addressing global warming requires a concerted effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, transition to renewable energy sources, and adapt to the changes that are already occurring. It is a complex and multifaceted problem that requires action at both individual and societal levels.

 

 

 

 

How to repair a toaster

 

ChatGPT

Repairing a toaster can be a relatively simple task, depending on the issue. Here are some common problems and potential solutions:

1. Toaster Won't Turn On:

   • Check the outlet to ensure it's working.
   • Inspect the power cord for damage. If it's frayed or damaged, it should be replaced.
   • If the outlet and cord are fine, the issue may be with the internal wiring or heating element. In this case, it's best to have a professional repair it.

2. Toaster Doesn't Toast Evenly:

   • Check the toaster's crumb tray and clean it. A buildup of crumbs can affect the toaster's performance.
   • Ensure the toaster slots are clean and free from debris.
   • If the toaster still doesn't toast evenly, the heating elements may need to be replaced. This should be done by a professional.

3. Toaster Heats Unevenly or Too Slowly:

   • Check if the toaster has a temperature control setting and adjust it if necessary.
   • Clean the toaster slots and crumb tray.
   • If the toaster still heats unevenly or too slowly, the heating elements may be worn out and need replacement.

4. Toaster Lever Won't Stay Down:

   • Make sure the toaster is plugged in and receiving power.
   • Check if the toaster has a cancel button. Press it to reset the toaster.
   • If the lever still won't stay down, the latch mechanism may be broken and need replacement.

5. Toaster Smells Like Burning:

   • Unplug the toaster immediately.
   • Check for any visible damage, such as melted plastic or exposed wires.
   • If there's no visible damage, the issue may be with the internal wiring or heating element. In this case, it's best to have a professional repair it.

6. Toaster Pops Up Too Soon:

   • Check if the toaster has a temperature control setting and adjust it if necessary.
   • Clean the toaster slots and crumb tray.
   • If the toaster still pops up too soon, the thermostat or timer may be faulty and need replacement.

For any repairs that involve electrical components or internal wiring, it's best to have a professional technician handle the job for safety reasons."

Edited March 2 by TailingsPond

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For fun I asked ChatGPT "Is oilprice.com a reputable source of information?"  Not a bad analysis IMO.

"As of my last update in January 2022, Oilprice.com is a well-established online platform that provides news, analysis, and commentary on the energy industry, including oil, natural gas, renewable energy, and related topics. It has been operating since 2009 and has gained a reputation for delivering timely and accurate information on energy markets, policy developments, and technological advancements.

However, like any media source, it's essential to approach the information presented on Oilprice.com with a critical eye. While the platform has a history of providing valuable insights and analysis, it's always a good idea to verify information from multiple sources, especially when it comes to complex and rapidly evolving topics like energy markets.

Additionally, it's worth noting that Oilprice.com is primarily focused on the energy industry and may not cover other sectors or topics as extensively. As with any source of information, it's essential to consider the context and potential biases when evaluating the content provided by Oilprice.com or any other media outlet."

 

 

Edited March 2 by TailingsPond

[TailingsPond + 500]

2 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Sigh: Water: is a liquid.

Seriously?

Water exits in three states on earth simultaneously.

[TailingsPond + 500]

13 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Water dear friend is a liquid, it comes to level ... get this EVERYWHERE in the world at the same time with a tiny difference technically between Atlantic and Pacific.  Tidal gauges tied to land subside and rise depending on where they are and FRAUDS give "weight" to some stations more than others to get said "curved graph and hope and pray everyone is as DUMB as you are who does not know that water comes to a level due to a thing called gravity as it is a liquid.  Or who are as indoctrinated into stupid think as you are and will Stupidly never use their brain as they are too damned LAZY to look up any single Tidal Gauge station. 

 

There are hundreds of other simple tidal gauge samples.   Go for it. 

Yeah this guy has never heard of rain, flooding, tsunamis, hurricanes, etc.

Tell the people of New Orleans, New York, Japan, etc. that the sea level is always constant.

When you can't even understand that water also exists as ice and vapour, or observe empirical evidence, why would we listen to any of your BS?

Edited March 3 by TailingsPond

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7 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Ask ChatGPT if global warming is a real concern.  Then ask it to repair a toaster.  It can do both in seconds.  AI has no bias.

Ya Don't Say? While I cannot be sure it seems AI has been tainted a smidgen

 

[TailingsPond + 500]

2 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Ya Don't Say? While I cannot be sure it seems AI has been tainted a smidgen

 

What terms / words were used to generate that?  AI only creates what the users asks for.  You or others put on that ethnic "taint" - not the computer.

Furthermore, that is clearly not ChatGPT as ChatGPT will not generate images.

Try Harder racist.  Do you think Jesus was white?

Edited March 3 by TailingsPond

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1 hour ago, TailingsPond said:

What terms / words were used to generate that?  AI only creates what the users asks for.  You or others put on that ethnic "taint" - not the computer.

Furthermore, that is clearly not ChatGPT as ChatGPT will not generate images.

Try Harder racist.  Do you think Jesus was white?

AI they all look/sound the same Built in human bias...go figure!

 

Google apologizes for ‘missing the mark’ after Gemini generated racially diverse Nazis

 / 

Generative AI has a history of amplifying racial and gender stereotypes — but Google’s apparent attempts to subvert that are causing problems, too.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/21/24079371/google-ai-gemini-generative-inaccurate-historical

Edited March 3 by Eyes Wide Open

[TailingsPond + 500]

1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

AI they all look/sound the same Built in human bias...go figure!

No shit. A human has to make the query and the AI can only use internet information that humans made.

A crappy human questions a database full of porn and conspiracy theories... what do you expect?

The problem is not the AI math, it is the users questions and the filthy data set provided.

Edited March 3 by TailingsPond

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19 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Sigh: Water: is a liquid.  Gravity works the same everywhere on earth in a consistent manner.  Yes, it gets slightly lower at the poles... Even a child knows this.  There is no such thing as cumulative tidal gauge graph unless you are a brainless chump... Once again you LIE via ignorance or omission take your pick: If you weren't a liar, or in this case most likely just DUMB, you would have put in a graph from single station: Any station from anywhere in the world with 100 years of tidal gauges.  If had done so as get this: Water is a liquid and due to gravity is level EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD, you would have seen every SINGLE station is linear. 

Water cannot rise more rapidly one place in the world compared to another. 

Here is one such link: https://external-preview.redd.it/MfiGtn24w5HS-NB9Wfc0_V1Jm1pO_4FUnMP_-BKlA4I.png?auto=webp&s=2526577c5058fa3b552a57bc57e73342526f16e8

Not that composite LIE so called "graph" drivel you posted.  Water dear friend is a liquid, it comes to level ... get this EVERYWHERE in the world at the same time with a tiny difference technically between Atlantic and Pacific.  Tidal gauges tied to land subside and rise depending on where they are and FRAUDS give "weight" to some stations more than others to get said "curved graph and hope and pray everyone is as DUMB as you are who does not know that water comes to a level due to a thing called gravity as it is a liquid.  Or who are as indoctrinated into stupid think as you are and will Stupidly never use their brain as they are too damned LAZY to look up any single Tidal Gauge station. 

There are hundreds of other simple tidal gauge samples.   Go for it. 

Not that composite LIE so called "graph" drivel you posted????

so all you have left is denial when presented the scientific facts and evidence

Love it when you are triggered by scientific facts and evidence..............none of your fellow deniers even come to your aid anymore

Enjoy the Green Agenda..............

[Ecocharger + 1,383]

It's over...it's over. R.I.P. to the jaded dreams of Green paradise.

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/02/03/24-plugin-vehicle-share-in-europe/

"Europe’s passenger plugin electric car market had a historic drop in December, with its 294,200 registrations quite far from the 413,500 registrations of a year ago. That is a massive 29% drop YoY, which is the worst drop in over 10 years. This time, both plugin powertrains were hit with falling sales. BEVs were down 25% to 205,922 units, which is — if we exclude the COVID-related drop of April 2020 — the first time BEVs were in the red since December 2016! PHEVs performed even worse, dropping 36% in December, to some 88,000 units, their worst performing month since June 2019, when they also saw sales drop by 36%."

[TailingsPond + 500]

13 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

It's over...it's over. R.I.P. to the jaded dreams of Green paradise.

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/02/03/24-plugin-vehicle-share-in-europe/

You said that months ago.  Why are you still writing about something that is long over?

Did you read the whole article to cherry pick those biased quotes?  If you did you would have noticed the following.  Yep, the plugins grew faster than the overall market.

"Despite this horrible result in December, the full year performance wasn’t that bad. Plugins progressed by 16% to over three million units, which allowed them to grow slightly faster than the overall market, which in the same period grew by 14%."

 

Keep posting how the green revolution is over with articles like that! However, if you honestly believe the green revolution was over you wouldn't need to convince yourself or others and could just STFU. 

Once again, the link you provided said plugins grew by 16% versus 14% for the market.