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1 minute ago, Boat said:

Thanks for the link. Doesn’t surprise me though. Trump certainly had a different view of Russia. Dmitry Medvedev was a different politician. Cooperation began. Then Putin, then Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and the Ukrain. 

Medvedev is believed to be Putin's puppet. Also, a fool.

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17 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Medvedev is believed to be Putin's puppet. Also, a fool.

If he was such a puppet and he was forced to rule a certain way……… why did it seem like the opposite. 

 

19 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Medvedev is believed to be Putin's puppet. Also, a fool.

 

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On 4/29/2021 at 1:24 AM, Jay McKinsey said:

The turbines are recyclable, it takes time for industry to develop the value chain to implement it. In most part that comes from volume which is growing as more turbines reach the end of their life cycle. There just hasn't been enough turbine blade retirements to make recycling economically viable, that is rapidly changing.

No known way to recycle fiberglass. Easier to switch to mechanically superior carbon fiber, which is combustible.

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On 12/2/2021 at 4:43 PM, Boat said:

If he was such a puppet and he was forced to rule a certain way……… why did it seem like the opposite. 

 

 

Baby Medvedev at 0:55

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzGo4c6U8os

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6 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Out of date information. LFP will be 50% of the market in a year or two.

Tesla’s shift to LFP cells to shake global battery industry

The LFP batteries’ global market shares rose to 24.1% in the first half of this year from 14.8% a year earlier, according to market tracker SNE Research, on surging sales of the Tesla Model 3 and the Hongguang MINI EV in China. On the other hand, market shares of NCM622 and NCM523 – common NCM types – fell to 22% and 16% from 22.5% and 19.4%, respectively, during the period.

https://www.kedglobal.com/newsView/ked202110220007

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5 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

No known way to recycle fiberglass. Easier to switch to mechanically superior carbon fiber, which is combustible.

No known way to recycle fiberglass???? cement plant feed...you would be amazed on what they put into them these days......High Temperature and the polymers ....poof  energy, the silica is okay up to 6 percent in cement. Cement makers get paid a nice fee for disposing of the odds and ends that you really cannot landfill....Think tires....they replace the coal needs to some degree in cement making. Recycling by fire

Repurposing Used Green Energy Assets 2021-06-03 10:04:00

Making Cement by Recycling Old Wind Turbine Blades

GE Renewable Energy signed an agreement with Veolia to recycle onshore wind turbine blades in the United States.

 

GE Renewable Energy signed an agreement with Veolia to recycle its onshore wind turbine blades in the United States. This recycling contract, the first of its kind in the U.S. wind turbine industry, will turn the blades into a raw material for use in cement manufacturing. The result: a 27% reduction in CO2 emissions and a 13% reduction in water consumption. A single wind turbine blade that weighs 7 US tons recycled through this process enables the cement kiln to avoid consuming nearly 5 tons of coal, 2.7 tons of silica, 1.9 tons of limestone, and nearly a ton of additional mineral-based raw materials.

This solution, which can be rapidly deployed at scale, increases the environmental benefits of the wind industry.

 In order to turn the blades into raw material, Veolia will use a co-processing solution that has already proven its effectiveness in Europe: once removed from the wind turbines, the blades - mainly composed of fiberglass - will be shredded at a Veolia plant in Missouri. The resulting material will then be used in the kilns to replace the coal, sand and clay needed to make cement. More than 90% of the blade will be reused: 65% as raw material in the cement plants, and 28% transformed into energy required for the chemical reaction in the kiln.

„Sustainable disposal of composites such as wind turbine blades has been a challenge, not only for the wind turbine industry, but also for aerospace, maritime, automotive and construction industries“, explains Anne McEntee, CEO of GE Renewable Energy's Digital Services Business

 

"By recycling wind turbine blades for use in cement manufacturing, we reduce the amount of coal, sand and minerals needed and so produce greener cement. We have processed more than 100 blades so far“, added Bob Cappadona, CEO for Veolia North America's Environmental Solutions and Services Division.

In Missouri, the Veolia treatment plant located 70 miles (110 km) northwest of Saint-Louis, employs 20 people.

 

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Natural gas has a bright future.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/LNG-Suppliers-Are-Very-Confident-In-Asias-Strong-Gas-Demand.html

"Asia’s LNG demand has been growing by a whopping 21 Mt this year

Asia will need a lot of natural gas and LNG in the coming decades to reduce emissions from its power generation sector by replacing coal capacity with gas-fired electricity generation

Asia’s natural gas demand is set to nearly double by 2050"

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14 hours ago, Boat said:

You said Biden policy would cause a US oil shortage. Now there seems to be plenty of oil without using government lands. 
President Biden's calls on OPEC to increase production earlier this year were received poorly by the U.S. shale patch, which believes it can take care of the supply problem.

 

US producers just don’t believe the hype or the BS. Now let’s remind US producers of the flaring you can see from space. 

https://eogdata.mines.edu/download_global_flare.html I used to live a few thousand feet from one of these in Bakersfield, California. What a waste of a natural resource!

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6 hours ago, notsonice said:

No known way to recycle fiberglass???? cement plant feed...you would be amazed on what they put into them these days......High Temperature and the polymers ....poof  energy, the silica is okay up to 6 percent in cement. Cement makers get paid a nice fee for disposing of the odds and ends that you really cannot landfill....Think tires....they replace the coal needs to some degree in cement making. Recycling by fire

Repurposing Used Green Energy Assets 2021-06-03 10:04:00

Making Cement by Recycling Old Wind Turbine Blades

GE Renewable Energy signed an agreement with Veolia to recycle onshore wind turbine blades in the United States.

 

GE Renewable Energy signed an agreement with Veolia to recycle its onshore wind turbine blades in the United States. This recycling contract, the first of its kind in the U.S. wind turbine industry, will turn the blades into a raw material for use in cement manufacturing. The result: a 27% reduction in CO2 emissions and a 13% reduction in water consumption. A single wind turbine blade that weighs 7 US tons recycled through this process enables the cement kiln to avoid consuming nearly 5 tons of coal, 2.7 tons of silica, 1.9 tons of limestone, and nearly a ton of additional mineral-based raw materials.

This solution, which can be rapidly deployed at scale, increases the environmental benefits of the wind industry.

 In order to turn the blades into raw material, Veolia will use a co-processing solution that has already proven its effectiveness in Europe: once removed from the wind turbines, the blades - mainly composed of fiberglass - will be shredded at a Veolia plant in Missouri. The resulting material will then be used in the kilns to replace the coal, sand and clay needed to make cement. More than 90% of the blade will be reused: 65% as raw material in the cement plants, and 28% transformed into energy required for the chemical reaction in the kiln.

„Sustainable disposal of composites such as wind turbine blades has been a challenge, not only for the wind turbine industry, but also for aerospace, maritime, automotive and construction industries“, explains Anne McEntee, CEO of GE Renewable Energy's Digital Services Business

 

"By recycling wind turbine blades for use in cement manufacturing, we reduce the amount of coal, sand and minerals needed and so produce greener cement. We have processed more than 100 blades so far“, added Bob Cappadona, CEO for Veolia North America's Environmental Solutions and Services Division.

In Missouri, the Veolia treatment plant located 70 miles (110 km) northwest of Saint-Louis, employs 20 people.

 

A "recycling" Al Capone would approve of :)

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7 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Out of date information. LFP will be 50% of the market in a year or two.

Tesla’s shift to LFP cells to shake global battery industry

The LFP batteries’ global market shares rose to 24.1% in the first half of this year from 14.8% a year earlier, according to market tracker SNE Research, on surging sales of the Tesla Model 3 and the Hongguang MINI EV in China. On the other hand, market shares of NCM622 and NCM523 – common NCM types – fell to 22% and 16% from 22.5% and 19.4%, respectively, during the period.

https://www.kedglobal.com/newsView/ked202110220007

https://www.kedglobal.com/newsView/ked202107270011

Surging battery material costs put roadblock to EV growth

Lithium prices nearly double, cobalt costs jump 63% so far this year

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1 hour ago, ronwagn said:

https://www.kedglobal.com/newsView/ked202107270011

Surging battery material costs put roadblock to EV growth

Lithium prices nearly double, cobalt costs jump 63% so far this year

LFP does not use cobalt.

Battery manufacturing efficiency increases and the rise in oil prices are off setting the rise in lithium prices. I know this is difficult for you to understand but lithium is a relatively small one time cost component in a battery that lasts for a couple decades. Expensive oil is a weekly cost component in an ICE vehicle.

But forget reality let's have some fun. So Ron, just when do you say EV sales are going to start decreasing? 

 

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2 hours ago, ronwagn said:

Expected Chilly Winter Weather?????

Nat gas is going to drop under $4 in the next few days. Do you think it can hold at $3.60....... Looks like winter is on hold. Global warming is not a Hoax

 

NatGasWeather said Tuesday forecasts pointed to increasing warmth expectations for the first half of December, with milder adjustments spread across the 15-day projection period.

“The overnight data remained exceptionally bearish the rest of this work week and again Dec. 9-15 as most of the U.S. experiences temperatures 10-30 degrees warmer than normal,” the firm said. “…What also makes the overnight data bearish is that the end of the 15-day forecast was again quite warm with the upper pattern, suggesting bearish weather headwinds in the 10-15 day period will carry over to forecast days 16-20.”

Widespread cold, the forecaster added, may not arrive in the Lower 48 until the final week of December.

Natural Gas Price Prediction – Prices Drop on Warm Weather Forecast

 

Tue, November 30, 2021, 12:31 PM·1 min read
 
Natural gas broke down through support levels. The weather is expected much warmer than normal throughout the entire United States for the next 2-weeks which should put downward pressure on natural gas demand.

Technical Analysis

On Tuesday, natural gas prices dropped falling through to support near the November lows at 4.65. Target support are the July lows at 3.60. Resistance is seen near the 10-day moving average at 4.96. The 10-day moving average has crossed below the 50-day moving average, which means a short-term downtrend is in place. Short-term momentum has turned negative as the fast stochastic generated a crossover sell signal. Medium-term momentum is reversed and turned negative as the MACD (moving average convergence divergence) is about to generate a crossover sell signal.

did you not get the memo, November was the much warmer than normal over most of the US

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2 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

A "recycling" Al Capone would approve of :)

Perhaps the demise of Jimmy Hoffa??

Why wear cement overshoes, when you can be part of someone else's overshoes?

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17 hours ago, Boat said:

Israel has the nukes to take the world out, maybe N Korea. It only takes minutes to vaporize the worlds largest cities. Being afraid of Russia is so 1960’s. 
If any country decided to destroy data infrastructure they could bring world transactions to a halt. World disruption hangs by a thread in many areas. But that’s no reasoning to give a thug like Putin anything. He is an enemy who can’t be bought. However you can end Russian trade easily enough. They are but a financial fly in the global ointment. 

Israel? I will defer  to a famous redneck commentary. Double dumb ass....

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50 minutes ago, turbguy said:

Perhaps the demise of Jimmy Hoffa??

Why wear cement overshoes, when you can be part of someone else's overshoes?

A recycling you couldn't refuse!

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13 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

coal replacing nat gas for one season........If you really think coal is coming back buy a coal mine in the US....Lots of them for sale real cheap /abandoned . 

U.S. annual electric power sector generation by source

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20 minutes ago, notsonice said:

coal replacing nat gas for one season........If you really think coal is coming back buy a coal mine in the US....Lots of them for sale real cheap /abandoned . 

U.S. annual electric power sector generation by source

Nope I dont

If you read the article it says its coal's last hurrah! D'oh!

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On 12/2/2021 at 9:09 PM, Jay McKinsey said:

Out of date information. LFP will be 50% of the market in a year or two.

Tesla’s shift to LFP cells to shake global battery industry

The LFP batteries’ global market shares rose to 24.1% in the first half of this year from 14.8% a year earlier, according to market tracker SNE Research, on surging sales of the Tesla Model 3 and the Hongguang MINI EV in China. On the other hand, market shares of NCM622 and NCM523 – common NCM types – fell to 22% and 16% from 22.5% and 19.4%, respectively, during the period.

https://www.kedglobal.com/newsView/ked202110220007

If true, this would merely equate to economic EV segment growing faster than premium. A Captain Obvious kind of expectation.

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23 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Not if it is shale

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_return_on_investment#Shale_Oil

Relative abundance of financing in US has been obfuscating that, but the sector is deeply in debt. Note how #1 Exxon does not frack and #2 Chevron very little. Much easier to do it the old fashioned way, by ripping off a banana republic like Guyana or Russia.

Technological advantage for US is not obvious. Russia is on the EOR cutting edge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_oil_recovery#Plasma-pulse

Not to speak of the activities in the Arctic, where nobody is even close.

Actually both Chevron and Exxon are heavily invested in shale oil.  Exxon's domestic US shale operations are conducted mostly through it's subsidiary XTO (formerly Crosstimbers Oil) so it may not be obvious to a casual observer.  Both have pulled back from shale gas however as a long period of low natural gas prices in the US was (and to an extent still is) making it hard to make money on it.  

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23 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Canada is a rich country, they can wait. Ultimately, price in USD matters not. Only the

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_return_on_investment

does, and they have the worst.

Actually, Wiki says that shale is worse, which is only obfuscated by free process heat from associated gas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_return_on_investment#Oil_sands

Both are pretty crap, though.

the wiki article is confusing to someone not familiar with the specific terminology of upstream oil and gas.  oil shale (what the wikipedia refers to) is organic rich shale which is mined, then processed at surface with surfactants chemicals and heat to produce oil.  Shale oil is what is drilled into and fractured to produce oil and gas.  The energy ROI on shale oil is MUCH better - roughly in the lower third of the conventional oil return.  

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