GREEN NEW DEAL = BLIZZARD OF LIES

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Peak Oil ? did it already happen??

 

battery storage and EVs need batteries and the factories are getting built fast....

 battery storage will be the norm everywhere....

Where will you store your electricity In a bank setup in your garage or in your car itself ?????

 

January 6, 20222:11 AM MSTLast Updated 17 hours ago

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Vietnam car maker VinFast to build U.S. battery factory as it goes all-electric

• VinFast to cease gasoline-powered car production by end-2022
• Potential U.S. plant sites narrowed down to 'about 3' - VinFast Global CEO
• Starting price for a VinFast car at $41,000
• VinFast to establish EV plant in Germany

SAN FRANCISCO, Jan 6 (Reuters) - Vietnam's VinFast plans to build electric vehicle battery cells and packs in a new U.S. manufacturing complex, its global chief executive told Reuters, as the company pledged to transform itself into an all-electric automaker by the end of this year.

VinFast, part of Vingroup JSC (VIC.HM), the largest conglomerate in the Communist-ruled country, became the country's first full-fledged domestic car maker when gasoline-powered models built under its own badge hit the streets in 2019.

"We will build our gigafactory in the U.S. as well," Le Thi Thu Thuy, Vingroup vice chair and VinFast Global CEO said, referring to the new battery facility in an interview during her U.S. visit to attend the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.

The company will continue to source batteries from its suppliers, she added.

 

The company, which began selling electric vehicles (EVs) in Vietnam at the end of 2021, said in a statement on Thursday it planned to become what it said would be the first car company to cease making gasoline-powered cars and transition to all-electric vehicle production from late 2022.

VinFast is betting big on the U.S. market, where it hopes its electric SUVs and a battery leasing model will be enough to tempt consumers away from the likes of Tesla (TSLA.O) and General Motors (GM.N).

The VinFast logo is seen on a car during the first press day of the Paris auto show, in Paris, France, October 2, 2018. REUTERS/Regis Duvignau

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• VinFast to cease gasoline-powered car production by end-2022
• Potential U.S. plant sites narrowed down to 'about 3' - VinFast Global CEO
• Starting price for a VinFast car at $41,000
• VinFast to establish EV plant in Germany

SAN FRANCISCO, Jan 6 (Reuters) - Vietnam's VinFast plans to build electric vehicle battery cells and packs in a new U.S. manufacturing complex, its global chief executive told Reuters, as the company pledged to transform itself into an all-electric automaker by the end of this year.

VinFast, part of Vingroup JSC (VIC.HM), the largest conglomerate in the Communist-ruled country, became the country's first full-fledged domestic car maker when gasoline-powered models built under its own badge hit the streets in 2019.

 

 

The company, which began selling electric vehicles (EVs) in Vietnam at the end of 2021, said in a statement on Thursday it planned to become what it said would be the first car company to cease making gasoline-powered cars and transition to all-electric vehicle production from late 2022.

VinFast is betting big on the U.S. market, where it hopes its electric SUVs and a battery leasing model will be enough to tempt consumers away from the likes of Tesla (TSLA.O) and General Motors (GM.N).

We will build our gigafactory in the U.S. as well," Le Thi Thu Thuy, Vingroup vice chair and VinFast Global CEO said, referring to the new battery facility in an interview during her U.S. visit to attend the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.

The company will continue to source batteries from its suppliers, she added.

 

Thuy said VinFast will initially assemble battery packs with cells sourced from its supplier at its U.S. complex before starting its own production there.

"We have narrowed down from I think, over 50 sites to about three sites," she said.

She will visit some sites during her trip before making a decision this year, adding that the "mega site" would also include an electric bus factory.

In December, Vingroup said it had started building a battery cell plant in Vietnam. The company is looking to initially produce 100,000 battery packs per year, with $174 million in investment, and then upgrade capacity to one million.

EV PLANTS

VinFast previously told Reuters it had plans to start producing electric cars in the U.S. in the late 2024. read more

The company said that on Thursday it was seeking to establish an EV plant in Germany.

"The era of shipping cars around the world is over, especially since COVID-19. You must have the factory close to the market in order to win over your customers," VinFast said in a statement.

VinFast said prices for its VF8 sport utility vehicle (SUV) started from $41,000 in the United States, and that it would apply blockchain technology to record orders and confirm ownership. By comparison, a Tesla (TLSA.O) SUV sells for around $50,000.

Vingroup said it was targeting global electric vehicle sales of 42,000 in 2022.

Shares of Vingroup rose as much as 5.8% on Thursday after it revealed VinFast's EVs line-up and the plans to go all-electric. VinFast is eyeing a share listing in the United States this year.

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It's getting cold. What happened to global warming?

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Keystone-Pipeline-Shuts-Down-Amid-Frigid-Weather.html

"TC Energy shut down the Keystone pipeline for several hours for unplanned maintenance as temperatures in the area of the Hardisty terminal were expected to drop to minus 35 Celsius.

Reuters reported that the emergency maintenance began on the evening of Tuesday and lasted until last evening. The Keystone pipeline carries close to 600,000 barrels of Canadian crude daily.

Meanwhile, Bloomberg has reported that frigid weather was disrupting the flow of oil in western Canada and northern U.S. states. Temperatures from Alberta to North Dakota are in deep sub-zero territory, and besides the Keystone pipeline, oil wells are also beginning to get affected.

This is coming at a bad time for U.S. crude oil supply, Bloomberg notes, with inventories recording drawdowns every week for more than two months now, inching closer to the three-year low reported in September."

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6 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

You got nothing so we can dismiss you and your claim. 

You got less than nothing. You have a talent for misunderstanding and misreading.

Edited January 7, 2022 by Ecocharger

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1 hour ago, Ecocharger said:

You got less than nothing.

Seems I've got skyrocketing EV sales and you have collapsing ICE sales.

Edited January 7, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

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3 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Seems I've got skyrocketing EV sales and you have collapsing ICE sales.

You are talking about less than 1% of stock, so again that is nothing.

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12 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

But the recall is for ICE. I guess you will have to take Mercedes ICE off your buy list. Fortunately they do have some nice EVs for you that haven't been recalled.

That was my point Jay!

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5 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Seems I've got skyrocketing EV sales and you have collapsing ICE sales.

Lol. Collapsing?? 

Yeah. Not yet they're not, and probably not until at least 2030. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/961138/ice-vehicle-sales-selected-world-regions/

Here's a little article about Tesla owner's issues in -30°C. Not like Jay would know anything about it. 

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/prairie-tesla-owners-battle-loss-of-heat-amid-extreme-cold-weather-after-software-update-1.5729102

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2 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

You are talking about less than 1% of stock, so again that is nothing.

Today's new car market is tomorrow's used car stock.

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This global warming is a bitch!

Kentucky: First tornadoes... now heavy snow blankets US state

https://news.sky.com/video/first-tornadoes-now-snow-blankets-kentucky-12510615

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14 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

That was my point Jay!

Your right, I wasn't expecting you to be disagreeing with the point you have been trying to make for days now. I'm glad we are in agreement that Mercedes EV are better than their ICE.

Edited January 7, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

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40 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Your right, I wasn't expecting you to be disagreeing the point you have been trying to make for days now. I'm glad we are in agreement that Mercedes EV are better than their ICE.

I wouldnt say "better" as they are very expensive but then again most Mercs are.

The ICE vehicles have a pretty robust record regarding safety and reliability over decades which I think even you would agree with.

The new EV's are also well made IMO, just a quality auto company like BMW and Audi!

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3 hours ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

Lol. Collapsing?? 

Yeah. Not yet they're not, and probably not until at least 2030. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/961138/ice-vehicle-sales-selected-world-regions/

Here's a little article about Tesla owner's issues in -30°C. Not like Jay would know anything about it. 

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/prairie-tesla-owners-battle-loss-of-heat-amid-extreme-cold-weather-after-software-update-1.5729102

You have got to be kidding? That sales chart is completely whacked. It is a projection from 2015-2018.

 

It gets the US right in 2020 but is completely wrong for Europe and China. As for its 2025 and 2030 projections it puts the US as the presumable leader in EV adoption but in reality China and Europe are.

The actual numbers for car sales in 2020, includes EV so ICE is somewhat less:

Annual car sales in various major markets monitored by the VDA were as follows between 2013 and 2020:

Region	2020	2019	2018	2017	2016	2015	2014	2013
Europe (EU+UK+EFTA)	11,961,200	15,805,800	15,624,500	15,631,700	15,131,700	14,201,900	13,006,500	12,308,200
Russia*	1,598,800	1,759,500	1,800,600	1,595,700	1,425,800	1,601,200	2,491,400	2,777,400
USA*	14,450,800	16,965,200	17,215,200	17,134,700	17,465,000	17,386,300	16,435,300	15,531,600
Japan	3,810,000	4,301,100	4,391,200	4,386,400	4,146,500	4,215,900	4,699,600	4,562,300
Brazil*	1,954,800	2,665,600	2,475,400	2,176,000	1,988,600	2,480,500	3,333,400	3,579,900
India	2,435,100	2,962,100	3,394,700	3,229,100	2,966,600	2,772,700	2,570,500	2,554,000
China	19,790,000	21,045,000	23,256,300	24,171,400	23,693,400	20,047,200	18,368,900	16,303,700
*Light vehicles		–	–	–	–	–	–	–
Combined:	56,000,700	65,504,300	68,157,900	68,325,000	66,817,600	62,705,700	60,905,600	57,617,100
Source: VDA

https://www.best-selling-cars.com/international/2020-full-year-international-worldwide-car-sales/

An example of ICE sale collapse from Germany: 

Looking at the new registrations from January to December of this year, the picture is as follows: A total of 355,961 electric cars were newly registered – an increase of 83.3 per cent (share of around 13.6 per cent) compared to the previous year (194,163 new registrations, share of around 6.7 per cent). The increase in plug-in hybrids, on the other hand, was somewhat smaller. From January to December 2021, the KBA recorded a total of 325,449 new PHEV registrations – an increase of 62.3 per cent compared to the previous year (200,469 new registrations).

With the increasing shares of (partially) electrified cars, the share of pure combustion vehicles is consequently decreasing. In 2021, new registrations of petrol cars fell by 28.6 per cent compared to the previous year – a share of 37.1. Diesel cars accounted for a share of 20 per cent of new registrations and recorded a decline of 36 per cent.

https://www.electrive.com/2022/01/06/germany-marks-48436-new-ev-registrations-in-december/

 

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15 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

I wouldnt say "better" as they are very expensive but then again most Mercs are.

The ICE vehicles have a pretty robust record regarding safety and reliability over decades which I think even you would agree with.

The new EV's are also well made IMO, just a quality auto company like BMW and Audi!

The EQS is less expensive than an S and looks to be a better car.

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2 hours ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

 

Here's a little article about Tesla owner's issues in -30°C. Not like Jay would know anything about it. 

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/prairie-tesla-owners-battle-loss-of-heat-amid-extreme-cold-weather-after-software-update-1.5729102

It is a software problem caused by and update. Not good but not an inherent EV problem. ICE cars also break down and stop running in bad conditions.

Here is what the woman who said her Tesla almost killed her family said later in the thread:

Regularly hit -40 every winter and have had many people with Tesla’s in the province not have this issue before. It’s actually a better vehicle for comfort in the frigid temps b/c it had cabin heat faster then an ICE. We always pack good winter clothes and blankets in case https://twitter.com/TSelvig/status/1476664747281956870

Ya, sounds like a software problem with the heat pump. Service has no fix at the moment for the issue and it’s plaguing most M3 and MY especially since the xtreme cold in west Canada

Thanks! I was able to get a loaner and it is currently in service

 

 

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On 1/6/2022 at 1:17 AM, notsonice said:

 

yet winters are warmer than average year after year after year now.......The chart below does not contain 2020 as the chart was made in Jan of 2020...Only a braindead person lives in denial of what is happening.....

 

 

USA National Forecast

January-March Temperature Outlook: Much of U.S. Could See Mild First Three Months of 2022

By weather.com meteorologists

December 16, 2021

As a person who lives in a cold climate., I think global warming is great. People who say we should contribute to fight global warming are the most arrogant people on the planet. They think they own the planet and deserve to decide its fate. They are evil, self worshipping, tinpot gods who deserve to be spat on.

Success doesn't come to the smartest or the strongest, but to him who can adapt best.

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2 hours ago, Michael Sanches said:

As a person who lives in a cold climate., I think global warming is great. People who say we should contribute to fight global warming are the most arrogant people on the planet. They think they own the planet and deserve to decide its fate. They are evil, self worshipping, tinpot gods who deserve to be spat on.

Success doesn't come to the smartest or the strongest, but to him who can adapt best.

there are usually two sides  to a coin..........

they might have used less appropriate word that led to confusion....... Climate change is probably more appropriate. Global warming or cooling is part of the cycle or the terminology. 

Climate change

is a result of our collective action over the decades or centuries.........

if 'fight' means race against time to reduce the impact, it may stand........ Since the causal agent is our collective action, then, the reverse action of ours would be the solution, no?

If 'fight' merely means to suppress partial causes of temperature change with various technological designs separately, having half baked green drives, campaigns, protests, conferences that meet on regular interval to come to conclusion made 50 years ago........... then, it is futile......... due to ignorance of mankind........... and arrogance...........

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The hysterical mavens of mayhem are at it again, churning out wild accusations of  climate damage against the normal functioning of an economy. Their idea of "science" is strongly biased and uninformed.

Come on, people, grow up!

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/First-Green-Quantitative-Easing-Of-A-Central-Bank-Fails-To-Work-As-Planned.html

"However, a study published on Friday by SOAS University of London found that the Bank of England’s so-called tilting approach will not significantly reduce the Weighted Average Carbon Intensity (WACI) of the CBPS portfolio. This carbon intensity, the study authors say, would only be reduced by 7 percent by 2025, compared to the bank’s 25-percent target.

According to the study, “the approach that the Bank has taken to green the CBPS lacks ambition,” and the bank continues to be committed to the principle of ‘market neutrality’, despite having recognized its inherent carbon bias.

Carbon intensity could be reduced more by reducing the share of bond buying in carbon-intensive industries, the authors of the study suggest.

“The climate emergency cannot be addressed through economic policies that simply tinker around the edges. A sharp reduction in emissions requires bold changes in the design of economic policies and the implementation of unprecedented measures that will transform the structure of our financial systems,” they said."

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FMG purchases battery-electric locomotives from Progress Rail

By Chris Guss | January 7, 2022

The new locomotive model BE14.5BB will have 14.5 megawatt hours energy capacity

 

PERTH, Australia — Fortescue Metals Group announced today it has purchased two new battery-operated locomotives from Progress Rail to haul ore from mine to port in northwest Australia. The new eight-axle locomotives will have an energy capacity of 14.5 megawatt hours and will be built at Progress Rail’s facility in Sete Lagoas, Brazil.

Fortescue Chief Executive Officer Elizabeth Gaines says, “The purchase of these new battery powered locomotives marks an important milestone in the decarbonisation of Fortescue’s locomotive fleet and demonstrates our commitment to achieving carbon neutrality for Scope 1 and 2 emissions by 2030, as we diversify from a pure play iron ore producer to a green renewables and resources company.”

The new locomotive model will be called BE14.5BB and will most likely utilize a similar frame design from Progress Rail’s SD70ACe-BB that’s previously been built in Brazil. The SD70ACe-BB model is currently used in meter gauge service in South America and has a frame that’s over 2 feet longer than the domestic SD70ACe-T4 to accommodate the longer trucks underneath. Based on the BE14.5BB illustration from Fortescue, the unit will apparently use the same truck design used under existing SD70ACe-BBs, but with larger traction motors to operate on Frotescue’s standard gauge track in Australia.

To accommodate the large amount of batteries and equipment to store this much energy, the locomotive will feature a full-width carbody design to maximize storage space on the locomotive. Fortescue is expected to take delivery of the first BE14.5BB locomotive in 2023.

This is the second battery-electric locomotive from Progress Rail after its six-axle Joule switching locomotive received its first order in 2019. This switching locomotive is also being built in Brazil with the first, a BE1.9C, delivered in late 2020 to Brazilian mining company Vale. Progress Rail’s second Joule, a BE2.4C is being constructed for Pacific Harbor Lines in California.

 

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North America’s Largest Lithium-Ion Battery Recycling Facility to Open in August

JANUARY 6, 2022 BY EMILY HOLBROOK

(Credit: Pixabay)

Battery Resourcers, a vertically integrated lithium-ion battery recycling and engineered materials company, will open a commercial-scale, lithium-ion battery recycling facility in Covington, Ga. When the 154,000-square-foot facility is fully operational in August 2022, it will be North America’s largest battery recycling facility with capacity to process 30,000 metric tons of discarded lithium-ion batteries and scrap per year — returning battery grade lithium, cobalt and nickel back into the battery supply chain. As demand for electric vehicles (EVs) increases, industry analysts and the federal government agree the United States needs to build a sustainable battery recycling infrastructure. The opening of this facility will help meet that demand.

Battery Resourcers is investing $43 million in the facility. The site is strategically located near several EV manufacturing hubs and lithium-ion gigafactories.

Plans are already in motion to open an additional facility for precursor and cathode-active material production in 2023 using the company’s patented Hydro-to-Cathode technology. Compared to mining and production of new materials, the Hydro-to-Cathode recycling process is 93% cleaner at a 59% lower cost. A recent study published in the scholarly journal, Joule, found recycled cathode from the Hydro-to-Cathode process outperforms new cathode materials in terms of cycle life by as much as 53%.

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Clean Power

Offshore Wind Catches Fire In Empire State While Others Fiddle

Another sign that coal is toast: New York State stakes another $500 million to beat its East Coast rivals to the offshore wind energy punch.

By

Tina Casey

Published

2 hours a

In the race to harvest offshore wind energy along the Atlantic coast, New York is not messing around. The Empire State has just launched a new $500 million investment program aimed at sealing the title of Offshore Queen, as announced by Governor Kathy Hochul during her State of the State address this week. New York better watch out, though. Little old New Jersey is already nipping at its heels.

$500 Million More For 2,000 New Green Jobs

The new $500 million wind program will accelerate New York’s already impressive offshore wind energy portfolio. To date, the state claims  5 offshore projects and 5 ports under development, and has procured a total of 4,300 megawatts worth of offshore wind energy towards a goal of 9,000.

“New York’s current offshore wind project portfolio represents the largest suite of offshore wind projects under active development in the nation,” explains NYSERDA, the New York State Energy Research and Development Agency.

That is so, and they are not letting the grass grow under their feet. Governor Hochul’s big wind energy announcement will muscle up the state’s ports, manufacturing, and supply infrastructure, creating more than 2,000 new green jobs along with the new clean kilowatts.

The $500 million is just for starters. Hochul expects to leverage private capital to add more than $2 billion to the state’s economy. As she explains, the aim is to ensure that “New York has the strongest offshore wind energy market along the Eastern Seaboard, enabling us to be the offshore wind supply chain hub for other projects up and down the coast.”

More Offshore Wind Energy For New York State

Governor Hochul also announced that NYSERDA is launching its next offshore wind energy procurement program this year. They anticipate at least 2 gigawatts in new projects coming into the the pipeline.

According to NYSERDA, the 2 gigawatts would bring the state’s total offshore wind to the equivalent of 4.5 million homes, so the next hurdle is getting offshore wind energy over to where people can use it. They have that covered, too.

“To realize an offshore wind grid able to deliver at least 6 gigawatts of offshore wind energy directly into New York City while minimizing onshore and ocean floor impacts, state agencies will conduct a New York State Cable Corridor Study to identify strategic offshore wind cable corridors and access key points of interconnection to the grid,” Hochul announced.

Apparently you ain’t seen nothing yet. All of this activity is taking place in relatively shallow waters, where conventional monopile wind turbine construction is the norm. Hochul also let slip that NYSERDA is already working on a new offshore wind master plan that will tap deeper waters farther offshore, which means that floating wind turbines will be in the mix.

Don’t Look Back, Something Might Be Gaining On You

The new financial firepower builds on an advantage gained by New York, after rival state New Jersey let an Obama-era wind energy grant slip through its fingers.

New Jersey had a shot at becoming the very first East Coast state with an offshore wind farm, thanks in part to a 2014 US Department of Energy grant aimed at spurring innovation in the offshore industry. The total funding pot was $141 million spread among three projects, one of which was the proposed 6-turbine Fishermen’s Energy demonstration wind farm off the coast of New Jersey.

Unfortunately for wind fans, the administration of former Governor Chris Christie was apparently not a willing partner. Uncertainty over the future of the state’s wind industry abounded during his tenure, partly because its Public Service Commission was slow to form an appropriate regulatory structure for wind energy. Fishermen’s Energy encountered one obstacle after another and the Energy Department finally had to claw back the company’s $47 million share of the innovation grant in 2017.

So, despite its generous helping of federal offshore wind lease areas ripe for the picking all along its coastline, New Jersey sat on the sidelines while New York raced ahead, that is, until Governor Christie left office.

Since then, New Jersey has shaken itself out of the doldrums. The state is already threatening New York’s plans to dominate the Atlantic Coast for monopile wind turbine manufacturing, and offshore lease activity has picked up considerably.

Offshore Wind Energy Rivalry Could Be A Friendly One

One prize that New Jersey missed out on was a national wind energy R&D consortium established by the Energy Department in 2017. New York State was a front runner in the competition to lead the program, and NYSERDA won the $18.5 million funding prize in 2018.

Now it looks like everyone is going to be in one big happy family. Earlier this week, the New Jersey Board of Public Utilities announced that it has joined the National Offshore Wind Research and Development Consortium, which it describes as a “prominent U.S. offshore wind research organization.”

“Established in 2018, NOWRDC is national not-for-profit public-private partnership focused on advancing offshore wind technology in the U.S. through high impact research projects and cost-effective responsible development, while maximizing other economic and social benefits,” NJBPU adds.

NJBPU President Joseph L. Fiordaliso, who was appointed to his post by current New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy, could hardly contain his enthusiasm.

“We are excited to be joining NOWRDC as the representative for the State of New Jersey,” he said. “Our participation in this prominent national organization will aid our offshore wind efforts and play a key role in helping us meet Governor Murphy’s goal of 7,500 MW of offshore wind energy by 2035.”

“New Jersey’s membership in NOWRDC allows the state to participate in regional research and monitoring activities as recommended by the New Jersey Offshore Wind Strategic Plan and to further the research into offshore wind activities with a goal of lowering the cost of Offshore Wind,” NJBPU added, further adding that the membership “provides New Jersey a platform to collaborate with other states in coordinating regional monitoring and scientific and technical research at the state and regional levels to address issues related to offshore wind energy project planning, siting, construction, and operation.

Others Fiddle

They’re going to need all the help they can get. Coastal and fishing industry stakeholders in New Jersey have already geared up for a fight over the new lease areas, so stay tuned for more on that.

Meanwhile, it’s worth noting that President Joe Biden’s Build Back Better climate action bill would help push things along even faster, if only West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin would stop fiddling around and start supporting the 50-strong Democratic caucus in the Senate. With his vote and Vice President Kamala Harris as tie-breaker, Build Back Better is a shoe-in.

Senator Manchin has been holding onto his vote, for reasons best known only to himself. It could be a case of sour grapes, considering that landlocked West Virginia will not share in the offshore wind gold rush. Still, there are plenty of opportunities to grow new green jobs in the Mountain State, and Build Back Better would assist families with child care and other expenses related to employment.

Manchin’s Republican colleague, West Virginia Senator Shelley Moore Capito, could push Build Back Better over the finish line by voting with the Democratic caucus, but she and all 49 other Republican senators are holding back, too. In that context it may be somewhat unfair to blame Senator Manchin for singlehandedly killing his own party’s signature legislation, but them’s the breaks.

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3 hours ago, specinho said:

there are usually two sides  to a coin..........

 

they might have used less appropriate word that led to confusion....... Climate change is probably more appropriate. Global warming or cooling is part of the cycle or the terminology. 

 

Climate change

is a result of our collective action over the decades or centuries.........

 

if 'fight' means race against time to reduce the impact, it may stand........ Since the causal agent is our collective action, then, the reverse action of ours would be the solution, no?

If 'fight' merely means to suppress partial causes of temperature change with various technological designs separately, having half baked green drives, campaigns, protests, conferences that meet on regular interval to come to conclusion made 50 years ago........... then, it is futile......... due to ignorance of mankind........... and arrogance...........

Yes, but you can buy donut holes with plenty of fat and carbs. Russia, China, India, etc. are greatly benefiting by not going GREEN. 

Edited January 7, 2022 by ronwagn
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Pure ICE sales in UK continue to collapse! 36% decrease.

 

 

 

Edited January 7, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

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32 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Pure ICE sales in UK continue to collapse!

 

 

 

Jay, when you live on an island the size of Great Britain hybrids make total sense. British and European gasoline and diesel prices are so much higher than ours. 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/drove-electric-van-cross-country-155054015.html Britain

Edited January 7, 2022 by ronwagn
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The fact EV’s is going to take over is old conversation. When AI takes over you will be able to charge your car at multiple places and never get in the car. You may choose to store your car in a parking garage that comes with free car washes. Energy and/or software companies might have a car division, chip division, stamp division, battery division, datalink satellite division, wind-solar division.etc

Chargers to rent may be anywhere you want to park. You may charge wirelessly on a stretch of road at 70 mph. We’re not talking Trump news here boys. We’re talking the future. 
 

You may own a driverless shopping cart that picks up goods, brings them to the house. After unloading you send it out for service, a car wash, go recharge then pick up the kids on the way home. Your cart may inform you of its schedule for the day. Lol

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2 hours ago, ronwagn said:

Jay, when you live on an island the size of Great Britain hybrids make total sense. British and European gasoline and diesel prices are so much higher than ours. 

Hybrid sales decreased. BEV was only category that increased sales.

Edited January 7, 2022 by Jay McKinsey