Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: U.S. Saw Its 4th-Hottest Year On Record In 2021, Fueled By Record-Warm December https://cleantechnica.com/2022/01/11/u-s-saw-its-4th-hottest-year-on-record-fueled-by-record-warm-december/ Hardly a neutral site...and the winter is not over yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 12, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, notsonice said: Plans can and do change.??? you planning on buying a coal mine this year???? you real be super rich??? ha ha ha I have no plans to buy an EV...Jay and I are still clinging to our ICE vehicles. Look for coal to play an increasing role in electricity generation. Edited January 12, 2022 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 12, 2022 (edited) The Tesla recalls are huge, equivalent to last year's total sales. No ICE production line has experienced such as drastic a recall. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-recalls-over-475000-electric-vehicles-2021-12-30/ "The model years affected in the recall range from 2014 to 2021, and the total number of recalled vehicles is almost equivalent to the half a million vehicles Tesla delivered last year. Around 200,000 Tesla vehicles will be recalled in China, the country's market regulator said on Friday. The U.S. electric vehicle manufacturer is recalling 356,309 2017-2020 Model 3 vehicles to address rearview camera issues and 119,009 Model S vehicles due to front hood problems, the federal regulator said. Tesla could not be reached for comment." Edited January 12, 2022 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Ecocharger said: Hardly a neutral site...and the winter is not over yet. 2021 is over pal and it was the 4th warmest year ever...........You cannot turn back the clock, History is not your friend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Ecocharger said: I have no plans to buy an EV...Jay and I are still clinging to our ICE vehicles. Look for coal to play an increasing role in electricity generation. Jay and you are buds???? Get your self a scooter. Had an uncle who drove a scooter....Too many DUI's ....you do not need a drivers license to drive one....Peak oil....when there are more charging stations than gas stations...... Taiwan soon to have more Gogoro electric scooter battery swap stations than gas stations Micah Toll - Jan. 12th 2022 2:56 am PT Electric scooter manufacturer Gogoro is famous for its battery-swapping network of GoStations that extensively covers its native Taiwan. The system has become so popular that it will soon eclipse the number of gas stations on the island nation. Gogoro’s battery swap stations look something like a bright green and white vending machine. Users of Gogoro’s batteries (which include scooters of many different brands thanks to its partnerships), simply roll up to a station and swap out their depleted battery for a freshly charged unit. A subscription service makes it a quick and easy process that takes just a few seconds. At the end of 2021, Gogoro counted a total of 2,215 GoStations nationwide, according to the Taipei Times. The number of gas stations stood barely higher at 2,487. At Gogoro’s current rate of expansion, 2022 very well may be the year that the number of GoStations surpasses the number of gas stations. While that may be just an interesting factoid for Taiwan, it paints an important picture of what’s to come for much of Asia and the rest of the world. Gogoro has aggressively expanded into major two-wheeler countries in the past year, where motorcycles and scooters make up a majority of the vehicles on the road in many cities. Replacing those loud, polluting gas-powered vehicles with silent and emission-free electric scooters and motorcycles will make a large impact on these cities, measurable in both the decibel and air particulate levels. This past April, Gogoro announced that it was entering the Indian market and partnering with Hero Motorcorp, the world’s largest motorcycle builder. Gogoro followed up shortly afterwards with another announcement that it would enter the Chinese market thanks to a new three-way partnership with two-wheeler leaders Yadea and DCJ. Barely another month went by before Gogoro announced yet another partnership, this time with massive manufacturer Foxconn to produce its electric scooters and swappable batteries. The rapid expansion continued as Gogoro then announced a partnership with Gojek in November that would see expansion into the large Indonesian market. Even as Gogoro expands across the Asian continent, its position in the local Taiwanese market grows stronger. According to a Gogoro representative, 28% of all two-wheeled vehicles sold in Taipei last month were Gogoro-powered, with December marking Gogoro’s largest sales month ever. The news comes as Gogoro prepares to go public on the Nasdaq via a SPAC deal that will see it listed under the ticker GGR. When announced last year, the deal was expected to be finalized sometime this quarter. Electrek’s Take Gogoro is just one company among dozens that are spreading electric scooters and motorcycles around the world. But Gogoro’s innovative approach to its GoStations and the company’s rapid expansion has put it in a league of its own. Seriously, just look at a graph of its domestic e-scooter sales compared to competitors. Now with so many companies jumping aboard the Gogoro train and putting the iconic green and black batteries in their own scooters, Gogoro is becoming something of a de facto standard in swappable batteries for light electric vehicles. Gogoro isn’t the only swappable battery game in town, but it is by far the largest. And perhaps a de facto standard is exactly what is needed to further accelerate the adoption of swappable battery technology for light EVs. I just hope we get to see some light electric cars with a half dozen Gogoro batteries in back. Now that would make my day! FTC: We use income earning auto affiliate links. More. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Gagen + 713 January 12, 2022 3 hours ago, notsonice said: yes I know the chart is old.....2021 production will near 600 million tons...last seen in the early 70's....Nothing on the horizon to reverse the long term trend. Anyone rejoicing over a dead cat bounce will be disappointed that the cat is really dead and is headed further down in the long term. 2022 is not the time to be opening a steam coal mine in the US. yeah - your chart got me wondering just what the numbers were, so I looked them up, and lo and behold there is recent data available! I would not have guessed that it fell so quickly, but it did. Coal for electricity generation is headed for the 'dustbin of history' at least in North America and good riddance, it's unpleasant stuff. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, notsonice said: 2021 is over pal and it was the 4th warmest year ever...........You cannot turn back the clock, History is not your friend The winter is still ongoing, and it looks cold. The winter pays no attention to the New Year break. Time to stoke up those coal-burners. Edited January 12, 2022 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, notsonice said: Jay and you are buds???? Get your self a scooter. Had an uncle who drove a scooter....Too many DUI's ....you do not need a drivers license to drive one....Peak oil....when there are more charging stations than gas stations...... Taiwan soon to have more Gogoro electric scooter battery swap stations than gas stations Micah Toll - Jan. 12th 2022 2:56 am PT Electric scooter manufacturer Gogoro is famous for its battery-swapping network of GoStations that extensively covers its native Taiwan. The system has become so popular that it will soon eclipse the number of gas stations on the island nation. Gogoro’s battery swap stations look something like a bright green and white vending machine. Users of Gogoro’s batteries (which include scooters of many different brands thanks to its partnerships), simply roll up to a station and swap out their depleted battery for a freshly charged unit. A subscription service makes it a quick and easy process that takes just a few seconds. At the end of 2021, Gogoro counted a total of 2,215 GoStations nationwide, according to the Taipei Times. The number of gas stations stood barely higher at 2,487. At Gogoro’s current rate of expansion, 2022 very well may be the year that the number of GoStations surpasses the number of gas stations. While that may be just an interesting factoid for Taiwan, it paints an important picture of what’s to come for much of Asia and the rest of the world. Gogoro has aggressively expanded into major two-wheeler countries in the past year, where motorcycles and scooters make up a majority of the vehicles on the road in many cities. Replacing those loud, polluting gas-powered vehicles with silent and emission-free electric scooters and motorcycles will make a large impact on these cities, measurable in both the decibel and air particulate levels. This past April, Gogoro announced that it was entering the Indian market and partnering with Hero Motorcorp, the world’s largest motorcycle builder. Gogoro followed up shortly afterwards with another announcement that it would enter the Chinese market thanks to a new three-way partnership with two-wheeler leaders Yadea and DCJ. Barely another month went by before Gogoro announced yet another partnership, this time with massive manufacturer Foxconn to produce its electric scooters and swappable batteries. The rapid expansion continued as Gogoro then announced a partnership with Gojek in November that would see expansion into the large Indonesian market. Even as Gogoro expands across the Asian continent, its position in the local Taiwanese market grows stronger. According to a Gogoro representative, 28% of all two-wheeled vehicles sold in Taipei last month were Gogoro-powered, with December marking Gogoro’s largest sales month ever. The news comes as Gogoro prepares to go public on the Nasdaq via a SPAC deal that will see it listed under the ticker GGR. When announced last year, the deal was expected to be finalized sometime this quarter. Electrek’s Take Gogoro is just one company among dozens that are spreading electric scooters and motorcycles around the world. But Gogoro’s innovative approach to its GoStations and the company’s rapid expansion has put it in a league of its own. Seriously, just look at a graph of its domestic e-scooter sales compared to competitors. Now with so many companies jumping aboard the Gogoro train and putting the iconic green and black batteries in their own scooters, Gogoro is becoming something of a de facto standard in swappable batteries for light electric vehicles. Gogoro isn’t the only swappable battery game in town, but it is by far the largest. And perhaps a de facto standard is exactly what is needed to further accelerate the adoption of swappable battery technology for light EVs. I just hope we get to see some light electric cars with a half dozen Gogoro batteries in back. Now that would make my day! FTC: We use income earning auto affiliate links. More. Better take an umbrella when going for a drive. And some ear muffs to keep warm in this heavy cold frigid time. Sorry, my standard of living is well above the electrified scooter stage. Edited January 12, 2022 by Ecocharger 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 12, 2022 (edited) Oil prices are still in the early stage of a massive upswing cycle. When panicked governments declare war on fossil fuels, the folks who voted them into power are the ones who get whacked by misguided policy. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Can-The-World-Avoid-A-Global-Oil-Supply-Crunch.html "The world may soon face a major oil supply shortage as spare capacity continues to dwindle and reserve replacement rates fall The number of new oil and gas discoveries may have hit a 75-year low in 2021, highlighting a major issue for future production The ESG investing craze and activist investors have driven money away from the oil industry, which may add to the pain and cost of the energy transition " Edited January 12, 2022 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 January 13, 2022 https://news.yahoo.com/does-anyone-even-want-electric-190100408.html 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 January 13, 2022 https://qz.com/2111985/maersk-cant-find-enough-green-fuel-for-its-carbon-neutral-ships/?utm_source=YPL Maersk can’t find enough green fuel to power its carbon-neutral ships 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 January 13, 2022 9 hours ago, Rob Plant said: I think in Europe yep almostly certainly. Globally not so much, I can see that still increasing up to 2030 and maybe 2035 China is one year behind Europe and the US is two years behind China. China passenger EV sales increased from 6.2% market share in 2020 to 15.5% in 2021. http://en.caam.org.cn/Index/show/catid/54/id/1656.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 January 13, 2022 (edited) 5 out of 10 Most Satisfying Cars are PEVs!!! Based on the data collected from its most recent survey, Consumer Reports ranked the Ford Mustang Mach-E as its third most satisfying car as 87 percent of owners surveyed indicated they would buy the EV crossover again if given the chance. That places it behind the Chevrolet Corvette (97 percent) and Mazda MX-5 Miata (89 percent), ties it with the Kia Telluride (87 percent) and Tesla Model Y (87), and ranks it ahead of the Toyota RAV4 Prime (86 percent), Tesla Model 3 (85 percent), Volkswagen ID.4 (84 percent), Ford Mustang (84 percent), and Hyundai Tucson (84 percent). https://fordauthority.com/2022/01/87-percent-of-ford-mustang-mach-e-owners-would-buy-again/ Edited January 13, 2022 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Jay McKinsey said: China is one year behind Europe and the US is two years behind China. China passenger EV sales increased from 6.2% market share in 2020 to 15.5% in 2021. http://en.caam.org.cn/Index/show/catid/54/id/1656.html And less than 1% of rolling stock...miniscule. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Jay McKinsey said: 5 out of 10 Most Satisfying Cars are PEVs!!! Based on the data collected from its most recent survey, Consumer Reports ranked the Ford Mustang Mach-E as its third most satisfying car as 87 percent of owners surveyed indicated they would buy the EV crossover again if given the chance. That places it behind the Chevrolet Corvette (97 percent) and Mazda MX-5 Miata (89 percent), ties it with the Kia Telluride (87 percent) and Tesla Model Y (87), and ranks it ahead of the Toyota RAV4 Prime (86 percent), Tesla Model 3 (85 percent), Volkswagen ID.4 (84 percent), Ford Mustang (84 percent), and Hyundai Tucson (84 percent). https://fordauthority.com/2022/01/87-percent-of-ford-mustang-mach-e-owners-would-buy-again/ Most of the highly rated vehicles are ICE...no surprise. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 13, 2022 (edited) The government prognosticators are calling for lower oil prices, and the private forecasters are calling for much higher oil prices...no surprise, the government has its own agenda, to placate the dissatisfied ICE owners who voted for Biden & Co. The average Joe in America is getting shafted by misguided energy policies. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/EIA-Sees-Oil-Prices-Dropping-In-2022-2023.html "The administration’s forecast is markedly different from that of Goldman Sachs, for example, which said last week that oil prices could reach $95 if Iran doesn’t return to the market this year, while commodities overall are set for a supercycle that could potentially last a decade. Goldman’s call for Brent Crude prices for the first quarter of 2022 is $85 per barrel, assuming that Iran could legitimately return to the market later this year. But an Iranian return now looks increasingly unlikely, and without Iranian exports, we could be looking at $95 oil, according to Jeff Currie, global head of commodities research at Goldman Sachs. Last month, Goldman Sachs forecast crude oil prices could hit $100 in 2023 as demand growth outpaces supply growth." Edited January 13, 2022 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 January 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: And less than 1% of rolling stock...miniscule. This is a year old, the new numbers should be out soon: At the end of 2020, an important milestone was reached when 4.92 million new energy vehicles (NEVs), including battery electric, plug-in hybrid, and fuel cell vehicles, were operating on China’s roads. These were 1.75% of the country’s total vehicle stock https://theicct.org/blog/staff/china-new-energy-vehicles-jan2021 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 January 13, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: Most of the highly rated vehicles are ICE...no surprise. You are certainly math challenged, so much for your econometrics. 5 out of 10 does not 'most' make. 5 are PEV and 5 are pure ICE. Not to mention that there are 10x as many ICE models on the market yet PEV took half of the highly rated spots. Edited January 13, 2022 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 January 13, 2022 Ohioans spent $211 million subsidizing two coal plants over last two years BY: JAKE ZUCKERMAN - JANUARY 12, 2022 4:00 AM https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/01/12/ohioans-spent-211-million-subsidizing-two-coal-plants-over-last-two-years/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: This is a year old, the new numbers should be out soon: At the end of 2020, an important milestone was reached when 4.92 million new energy vehicles (NEVs), including battery electric, plug-in hybrid, and fuel cell vehicles, were operating on China’s roads. These were 1.75% of the country’s total vehicle stock https://theicct.org/blog/staff/china-new-energy-vehicles-jan2021 What percentage of that vehicle stock were recalled due to the Tesla fiasco? Quite a large recall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: You are certainly math challenged, so much for your econometrics. 5 out of 10 does not 'most' make. 5 are PEV and 5 are pure ICE. Not to mention that there are 10x as many ICE models on the market yet PEV took half of the highly rated spots. You are the last person who should mention econometrics, of which you are woefully under-trained, judging from your posts. In volume terms this test weights heavily in favor of ICE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Ecocharger said: What percentage of that vehicle stock were recalled due to the Tesla fiasco? Quite a large recall. Non-sequitur. However Tesla is fixing all the cars at the customer's convenience. Tesla sales keep skyrocketing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: You are the last person who should mention econometrics, of which you are woefully under-trained, judging from your posts. In volume terms this test weights heavily in favor of ICE. Ha! What idiocy. In volume terms this weights completely toward PEVs. PEVs make up a small fraction of the market but garnered half of the top ratings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Jay McKinsey said: Non-sequitur. However Tesla is fixing all the cars at the customer's convenience. Tesla sales keep skyrocketing. Not quite skyrocketing, they are getting some bad publicity, enough to dissuade me from considering one of their products. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 13, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said: Ha! What idiocy. In volume terms this weights completely toward PEVs. PEVs make up a small fraction of the market but garnered half of the top ratings. Weightings should be by volume of sales, to give a more accurate picture of actual market share. Producing a vehicle for a niche market is less of an achievement, involving many fewer satisfied customers. Edited January 13, 2022 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites