Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Wombat One said: Not at all. Very easy to reduce fuel consumption during war and use the excess food to offset a lack of imports. The UK had fuel rationing during WW2. Heck, everybody had their Aluminium frypans confiscated to help build aircraft. Our ethanol production has nothing to do with food or fuel security. It has everything to do with corruption and waste. It has been an ecological disaster. If Iowa didn't have the first Presidential primary there wouldn't be any ethanol mandate. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 13, 2022 World’s Largest Electrolyzer Plant Now Under Construction Gladstone, Queensland, home to one of the fossil fuel industry’s largest export hubs, will soon become home to the world’s largest electrolyzer plant. Not only that, but Fortescue Future Industries will also manufacture wind turbines, solar panels, batteries, and cables there in a Green Energy Manufacturing Centre. This is all part of the green hydrogen update in Australia. US-based Plug Power will partner with Fortescue Future Industries (FFI) to manufacture its technology in Australia. It is expected that the electrolyzers will be used at the nearby Gibson Island hydrogen facility. Gibson Island has been used to produce fertilizer from methane. It is in the process of being converted to use green hydrogen as a feedstock. “The electrolyser facility will have an initial capacity of two gigawatts per annum — more than doubling current global production, and enough to produce more than 200,000 tonnes of green hydrogen each year,” FFI writes. By 2030, FFI plans to create 15 million tons of green hydrogen a year. That would require more than 200 gigawatts (GW) of new wind and solar generation and a lot more electrolyzers and clean water. “FFI’s goal is to become the world’s leading, integrated, fully renewable energy and green products company, powering the Australian economy and creating jobs for Australians as the world transitions away from fossil fuels,” FFI writes. “Fortescue Future Industries is ahead of the curve. The electrolyzer facility is set to be complete by early next year and will quickly scale up to meet the growing demand for electrolyzers,” FFI CEO Julie Shuttleworth said. “We plan to manufacture other renewable energy components in future expansions.” In a deal with the Queensland government, the green hydrogen projects in Gladstone will be linked to the main power grid and supplied with renewable energy from Queensland’s increasing number of renewable energy projects. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 March 13, 2022 (edited) On 3/11/2022 at 12:12 PM, Jay McKinsey said: You are beyond daft, you are beyond dumb. Argonne National Lab is a revered gov't institution since 1946. You just can't handle the truth that EV sales are skyrocketing and that you were wrong so you choose to continue to be wrong and deny reality. Daft you say, now that is quite interesting. A world in chaos propelled by the Green Revolution. Frankly Captian Chaos I could care less if EV vehicles gain traction in the market place. After all they are merely a commodity nothing more nothing less. Yes daft would be quite appropriate. Central Asia Faces Financial Chaos As Russia’s Economy Collapses Edited March 13, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,382 DL March 13, 2022 (edited) On 3/10/2022 at 10:08 PM, Jay McKinsey said: No, it is a decreasing supply commodity. Coal is hot and getting hotter......more coal, more coal! https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-To-Expand-Coal-Use-As-It-Prioritizes-Energy-Security.html "Despite pledges to contribute to global efforts of reducing emissions, China will continue to maximize the use of coal in coming years as it caters to its energy security, the top Chinese policymakers said this week. Chinese President Xi Jinping has told representatives from its biggest coal-producing region, Inner Mongolia, that China "could not part from reality" and that it is "rich in coal, poor in oil and short of gas," Reuters reported on Friday." Edited March 13, 2022 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 March 13, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: Coal is hot and getting hotter......more coal, more coal! https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-To-Expand-Coal-Use-As-It-Prioritizes-Energy-Security.html "Despite pledges to contribute to global efforts of reducing emissions, China will continue to maximize the use of coal in coming years as it caters to its energy security, the top Chinese policymakers said this week. Chinese President Xi Jinping has told representatives from its biggest coal-producing region, Inner Mongolia, that China "could not part from reality" and that it is "rich in coal, poor in oil and short of gas," Reuters reported on Friday." Indeed....China not only is ramping up coal, they now have Russia in there portfolio. Unlimited oil&coal, PT Barnum once made commentary on such events.. P.T. Barnum There's a sucker born every minute Edited March 13, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 13, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Indeed....China not only is ramping up coal, they now have Russia in there portfolio. Unlimited oil&coal, PT Barnum once made commentary on such events.. P.T. Barnum There's a sucker born every minute China NEV sales at 22% new market share in February, up 181% YoY China's retail sales of new energy passenger vehicles were 272,000 units in February, up 180.5 percent year-on-year the CPCA said. That includes 206,000 BEVs and 66,000 PHEVs. Retail sales of all passenger vehicles in February were 1.246 million units, up 4.2 percent year-on-year. The penetration of NEVs in China was 21.8 percent of retail sales in February, up 13 percentage points from 8.1 percent in February 2021. https://cnevpost.com/2022/03/08/chinas-wholesale-sales-of-passenger-nevs-at-317000-units-in-feb-up-189-year-on-year/ Edited March 13, 2022 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 13, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: Coal is hot and getting hotter......more coal, more coal! https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-To-Expand-Coal-Use-As-It-Prioritizes-Energy-Security.html "Despite pledges to contribute to global efforts of reducing emissions, China will continue to maximize the use of coal in coming years as it caters to its energy security, the top Chinese policymakers said this week. Chinese President Xi Jinping has told representatives from its biggest coal-producing region, Inner Mongolia, that China "could not part from reality" and that it is "rich in coal, poor in oil and short of gas," Reuters reported on Friday." China plans huge wind and solar power rollout in Gobi desert Published on 09/03/2022, 4:13pm The goal is to install 450GW of renewable energy capacity by 2030, more than twice the US’ installed wind and solar generating fleet The Gobi Desert spans Mongolia and China (Photo: Svdmolen/Wikimedia) ) By Joe Lo and Isabelle Gerretsen China plans to build 450 gigawatts of wind and solar power capacity in the Gobi desert by 2030, government planner He Lifeng said on Saturday. That’s more than twice the total amount of solar and wind power installed in the USA. Client Earth’s China representative Dimtri De Boer said: “450GW is really huge. That would be the lion’s share of new solar and wind capacity installation until 2030.” The Gobi desert straddles China’s northern border with Mongolia. The land is cheap and there is lots of wind and sunshine. A map of China with the windiest areas in red. (Photo: Global Wind Atlas/Screenshot)) The province of Inner Mongolia, which includes most of China’s Gobi desert, is the biggest producer of coal in China and has pursued a coal-led recovery from the Covid-19 pandemic. China has brought the costs of manufacturing solar panels down and is able to use these cheap domestic panels in projects like this. “It only makes sense to deploy domestically made renewable energy equipments in big scale as a way to contribute to climate action as well as economic growth,” Li said. Similar programmes in the early 2010s were hampered by bottlenecks in the grid infrastructure to deliver the electricity to major cities. This meant renewable producers had to make less electricity than they could have done. “That problem has largely been solved,” Li said. “Building stuff in China is never a problem.” Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis analyst Simon Nicholas agreed. He told Climate Home: “China is a world leader in long distance transmission and has been building ultra high voltage direct current transmission lines for years now so if anyone can do it, China can.” Edited March 13, 2022 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 March 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said: China NEV sales at 22% new market share in February, up 181% YoY China's retail sales of new energy passenger vehicles were 272,000 units in February, up 180.5 percent year-on-year the CPCA said. That includes 206,000 BEVs and 66,000 PHEVs. Retail sales of all passenger vehicles in February were 1.246 million units, up 4.2 percent year-on-year. The penetration of NEVs in China was 21.8 percent of retail sales in February, up 13 percentage points from 8.1 percent in February 2021. https://cnevpost.com/2022/03/08/chinas-wholesale-sales-of-passenger-nevs-at-317000-units-in-feb-up-189-year-on-year/ CCP website, so true to form About us Electric vehicle news from China Website https://cnevpost.com/ Industries Motor Vehicle Manufacturing Company size 1-10 employees Headquarters Shanghai 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 13, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: CCP website, so true to form About us Electric vehicle news from China Website https://cnevpost.com/ Industries Motor Vehicle Manufacturing Company size 1-10 employees Headquarters Shanghai Yes, of course, any data that disagrees with your world view is fake news. But claims by Xi that they are going to use more coal you believe completely. Edited March 13, 2022 by Jay McKinsey 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old-Ruffneck + 1,177 er March 13, 2022 (edited) China To Expand Coal Use As It Prioritizes Energy Security | OilPrice.com Them "green EV Cars" really aren't too "green" in all reality, Jay.....sorry to say Edited March 13, 2022 by Old-Ruffneck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 13, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Old-Ruffneck said: China To Expand Coal Use As It Prioritizes Energy Security | OilPrice.com You believe everything Xi says? @Eyes Wide Open must object to this as fake news Edited March 13, 2022 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 March 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jay McKinsey said: Yes, of course, any data that disagrees with your world view is fake news. But claims by Xi that they are going to use more coal you believe completely. My view? I am no politician, my views would be rather insulting to many. Suggesting a bounty on environmental activists seems rather appropriate, not to be confused however with environmental reasoning...However it would require some time clearly define the lines...perhaps a decade or two? Ok back to reality of....Fake News. China Is Planning to Build 43 New Coal-Fired Power Plants. Can It Still Keep Its Promises to Cut Emissions? https://time.com/6090732/china-coal-power-plants-emissions/ Edited March 13, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 13, 2022 48 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: My view? I am no politician, my views would be rather insulting to many. Suggesting a bounty on environmental activists seems rather appropriate, not to be confused however with environmental reasoning...However it would require some time clearly define the lines...perhaps a decade or two? Ok back to reality of....Fake News. China Is Planning to Build 43 New Coal-Fired Power Plants. Can It Still Keep Its Promises to Cut Emissions? https://time.com/6090732/china-coal-power-plants-emissions/ From your article: China is a renewable energy leader, accounting for about 50% of the world’s growth in renewable energy capacity in 2020. The world’s most populous nation is also out in front on key green technologies such as electric vehicles, batteries and solar power. “They are No. 1 in technology developments in zero emissions industries,” says Tim Buckley, the director of energy finance studies for Australia and South Asia at the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA). Aerial view of a wind-solar hybrid photovoltaic power station in Zaozhuang, Shandong Province of China on September 12, 2020. Li Zongxian—VCG/Getty Images China’s carbon-dioxide emissions growth slowed in the second quarter of 2021 “indicating that the rapid emissions growth seen since the end of the COVID-19 lockdown in early 2020 could be coming to an end,” according to the CREA and GEM report. “I think that it’s clear that there’s already a shift from the runaway expansion of all kinds of industry and construction that we’ve seen for the past year and a bit to trying to at least moderate the pace,” Lauri Myllyvirta, a lead analyst at CREA who worked on the report. He says that the newly announced projects will be important to watch. “These are the ones that will test whether it’s still acceptable to keep building these things.” 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 March 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said: From your article: China is a renewable energy leader, accounting for about 50% of the world’s growth in renewable energy capacity in 2020. The world’s most populous nation is also out in front on key green technologies such as electric vehicles, batteries and solar power. “They are No. 1 in technology developments in zero emissions industries,” says Tim Buckley, the director of energy finance studies for Australia and South Asia at the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA). Aerial view of a wind-solar hybrid photovoltaic power station in Zaozhuang, Shandong Province of China on September 12, 2020. Li Zongxian—VCG/Getty Images China’s carbon-dioxide emissions growth slowed in the second quarter of 2021 “indicating that the rapid emissions growth seen since the end of the COVID-19 lockdown in early 2020 could be coming to an end,” according to the CREA and GEM report. “I think that it’s clear that there’s already a shift from the runaway expansion of all kinds of industry and construction that we’ve seen for the past year and a bit to trying to at least moderate the pace,” Lauri Myllyvirta, a lead analyst at CREA who worked on the report. He says that the newly announced projects will be important to watch. “These are the ones that will test whether it’s still acceptable to keep building these things.” Yes Jay, China is full of empty ambition. The Story of China's Ghost Cities and Its 65 Million Empty Homes There is a ghostly London, Manhattan, and Paris lying within China. https://interestingengineering.com/chinas-ghost-cities-and-its-65-million-empty-homes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 March 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said: China’s carbon-dioxide emissions growth slowed in the second quarter of 2021 “indicating that the rapid emissions growth seen since the end of the COVID-19 lockdown in early 2020 could be coming to an end,” according to the CREA and GEM report. While we're here and lower emissions growth perhaps China has found away to just wash it all away.... China to expand weather modification program to cover area larger than India https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/03/asia/china-weather-modification-cloud-seeding-intl-hnk/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,382 DL March 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: China NEV sales at 22% new market share in February, up 181% YoY China's retail sales of new energy passenger vehicles were 272,000 units in February, up 180.5 percent year-on-year the CPCA said. That includes 206,000 BEVs and 66,000 PHEVs. Retail sales of all passenger vehicles in February were 1.246 million units, up 4.2 percent year-on-year. The penetration of NEVs in China was 21.8 percent of retail sales in February, up 13 percentage points from 8.1 percent in February 2021. https://cnevpost.com/2022/03/08/chinas-wholesale-sales-of-passenger-nevs-at-317000-units-in-feb-up-189-year-on-year/ Still less than 1% of the vehicle market....a mere drop in the bucket. This is still an ICE world. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,382 DL March 13, 2022 (edited) Oil markets have no where to go but UP! https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Oil-Could-See-Its-Biggest-Supply-Shock-Since-1973.html "Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the sanctions that have been levied against it have sent shockwaves through global energy markets. Inventories in major oil-consuming developed economies, including in the United States, have been falling steadily. The energy crisis today is “comparable in intensity, in brutality, to the oil shock of 1973,” France’s Economy and Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire said." Edited March 14, 2022 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 14, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: Still less than 1% of the vehicle market....a mere drop in the bucket. This is still an ICE world. Actually it is 2% of the total Chinese vehicle fleet on an annualized basis. I guess you already forgot that we went over this last month. Edited March 14, 2022 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 649 March 14, 2022 15 hours ago, Wombat One said: Interesting. When I asked the head of ANSTO in 1995 what he thought about Star Wars, he simply said "Star Wars is dead"! I guess he was right, but hypersonic missiles are just as effective only cheaper? Hence the belligerence of Xitler and Poo-tin? Indeed, it was not until Trump came up with the Space Force that China and Russia revealed their hypersonic weapons to the world. I think that Mr Biding His Time ought to at least warn Mr Poo-tin that genocide rarely pays off and is the fastest way to get your own country destroyed. There will be no face-saving peace agreement, much too late for that. I hear that 100's of thousands of Russians tried to escape to Finland, Sweden, and Norway but half of them got sent to jail. Also, half the Russian troops are eating rations that had an expiry date of 2015. Every good commander knows you must feed the troops properly so that goes to show what an incompetent commander-in-chief that Poo-tin really is? Too busy playing the geo-political chessboard and not noticing any of the details lol. The Chinese are the opposite. Fixated on the details such as building 80 "Ghost Cities" for their citizens to move into when the nuclear winter arrives, but have absolutely no strategy to actually win a world war. They think that their numbers will suffice when that is actually their Achille's heel lol. The strong point of the Chinese lies in their undercover undermining of every nation on earth. No Putin is asking for their military help. Biden's family has gotten rich off of them as have many in our congress and our crony capitalists working in concert. Bribery goes a long way when you are talking about millions of dollars at a time. Our elites are beholden to China to make most of our everyday products and do not want to try to compete paying American wages. The best answer is to deal with nations that our not our biggest antagonost worldwide. We need more alliances with South America or China will end up controlling it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 649 March 14, 2022 https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-gas-prices-soar-buyers-find-fewer-fuel-efficient-car-options-11647163804?mod=hp_lead_pos4 As Gas Prices Soar, Buyers Find Fewer Fuel-Efficient Car Options With SUV and truck sales booming in recent years, many auto makers scaled back on smaller options; electric-vehicles remain limited 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,382 DL March 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: Actually it is 2% of the total Chinese vehicle fleet on an annualized basis. I guess you already forgot that we went over this last month. I guess you forgot how to calculate the vehicle market....everything gets included, new and used, that gives less than 1% of the total vehicle market to your hobby horse. By the way, why have you not purchased an EV yourself? If your advice to others is worth anything, you should take it yourself and buy an EV. Edited March 14, 2022 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,382 DL March 14, 2022 (edited) Oil prices are headed upwards to the heavens, what a ride we are on. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Could-Oil-Prices-Really-Hit-200.html "Commodity prices, including oil and natural gas, are all over the place. Russia’s aggression in Ukraine, and the subsequent retaliation from the West, have sent global supply chains into chaos. Oil prices could soar even higher if new sanctions are levied on Russia’s energy industry." Edited March 14, 2022 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 March 14, 2022 41 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said: https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-gas-prices-soar-buyers-find-fewer-fuel-efficient-car-options-11647163804?mod=hp_lead_pos4 As Gas Prices Soar, Buyers Find Fewer Fuel-Efficient Car Options With SUV and truck sales booming in recent years, many auto makers scaled back on smaller options; electric-vehicles remain limited Below Ron have a read. The Ford family is at its best collecting checks. If they were to never interfere with Ford Motor again again...the auto ind would be in by far better place. Perhaps the world. American Icon: Alan Mulally and the Fight to Save Ford Motor Company Continued http://www.outofthisworldleadership.com/blog-posts/american-icon-alan-mulally-and-the-fight-to-save-ford-motor-company-continued/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 14, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: I guess you forgot how to calculate the vehicle market....everything gets included, new and used, that gives less than 1% of the total vehicle market to your hobby horse. By the way, why have you not purchased an EV yourself? If your advice to others is worth anything, you should take it yourself and buy an EV. Ok dippy, I guess we have to go through the numbers again for your mathematically challenged midget mind.: China has a vehicle fleet of 300 million vehicles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicles_per_capita Thus 1% of the total vehicle fleet is 3 million vehicles. Last year NEV sales were 3.3 million or 1.1% of the total vehicle fleet. https://www.electrive.com/2022/01/11/china-counts-more-than-3-million-nev-sales-in-2021/#:~:text=In China%2C around 3.3 million,month with 505%2C000 NEV cars. In January of this year NEV sales more than doubled YoY for a Total: 372,615 (up 115%) In February of this year NEV sales more than doubled to 272,000 units in February, up 180.5 percent year-on-year As both months were well over double YoY results, extrapolation says that this year will be well over double that of last year. Thus well over 2% of total vehicles in China. Will I have to do this math for you every month? Edited March 14, 2022 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuarterCenturyVet + 312 JL March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said: Ok dippy, I guess we have to go through the numbers again for your mathematically challenged midget mind.: China has a vehicle fleet of 300 million vehicles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicles_per_capita Thus 1% of the total vehicle fleet is 3 million vehicles. Last year NEV sales were 3.3 million or 1.1% of the total vehicle fleet. https://www.electrive.com/2022/01/11/china-counts-more-than-3-million-nev-sales-in-2021/#:~:text=In China%2C around 3.3 million,month with 505%2C000 NEV cars. In January of this year NEV sales more than doubled YoY for a Total: 372,615 (up 115%) In February of this year NEV sales more than doubled to 272,000 units in February, up 180.5 percent year-on-year As both months were well over double YoY results, extrapolation says that this year will be well over double that of last year. Thus well over 2% of total vehicles in China. Will I have to do this math for you every month? The world, you ignorant fuckface, is what he's talking about. I know you're a pedantic geriatric dickmouth, but cherry picking only China isn't going to help you. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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