footeab@yahoo.com + 2,135 March 14, 2022 Jay... et al.... The number of EV's sold is massively influenced by Chinese numbers.... What they consider an EV car is not even sold outside of China.(yet) Most of them can seat 4 at best, a sack of groceries, and has a range of ~200km that no one dares get in a crash in. Truth be told, that is pretty much all you need in super population dense Europe/Eastern China or pretty much any other major city anywhere in the world. Still waiting for the cobalt free LiNMC batteries. Supposedly Iron/Aluminum + doping agent using same machines already in use with a massive 500kW/kg is in testing here in USA... we shall see. If that becomes reality, then only Nickel is the real stumbling block and raw lithium mining. If this happens, the world supply transportation companies will change overnight. End user will still not care as no different than ICE other than they will have to update their home etc, but what happens to all the homes that require 3 such cars being charged every night... Right... they are going to be charged during the day... uh huh sure... All on July 4th or Christmas day or Thanksgiving day or whatever holiday is equivalent in your country who is reading this.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 14, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, QuarterCenturyVet said: The world, you ignorant fuckface, is what he's talking about. I know you're a pedantic geriatric dickmouth, but cherry picking only China isn't going to help you. The subject was China, I only gave China sales numbers not global, and they are by far the largest car market in the world. But you aren't bright enough to know that are you? Edited March 14, 2022 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 14, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: Jay... et al.... The number of EV's sold is massively influenced by Chinese numbers.... What they consider an EV car is not even sold outside of China.(yet) Most of them can seat 4 at best, a sack of groceries, and has a range of ~200km that no one dares get in a crash in. Truth be told, that is pretty much all you need in super population dense Europe/Eastern China or pretty much any other major city anywhere in the world. Still waiting for the cobalt free LiNMC batteries. Supposedly Iron/Aluminum + doping agent using same machines already in use with a massive 500kW/kg is in testing here in USA... we shall see. If that becomes reality, then only Nickel is the real stumbling block and raw lithium mining. If this happens, the world supply transportation companies will change overnight. End user will still not care as no different than ICE other than they will have to update their home etc, but what happens to all the homes that require 3 such cars being charged every night... Right... they are going to be charged during the day... uh huh sure... All on July 4th or Christmas day or Thanksgiving day or whatever holiday is equivalent in your country who is reading this.... Most China EVs are actually rather standard cars. The mini EVs of which you speak were only about 20% of sales. We already have nickel and cobalt free LFP and that is going to go a long ways in the market. Then there are a slew of other chemistries in the works. Tesla just got EPA cert for their second LFP vehicle in the US. Most of the EVs will still have a good deal of juice in the battery and don't need to be charged from 0 to 100% every night. The simple solution is an intelligent splitter to handle several cars and the dryer. They already exist. Holidays are very low electrical demand days so that is not a problem. Edited March 14, 2022 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 14, 2022 (edited) This is one of the best selling NEVs in China, no nickel or cobalt: With BYD being no stranger to pioneering in the industry, the Han series continues to break new ground. The Han EV’s long-range pure electric version has a remarkable single-charge range of 605 kilometers (376 miles) based on the NEDC test cycle. The four-wheel-drive high-performance version possesses an acceleration of 0 to 100km/h (approximately 62 mph) in just 3.9 seconds, making it China’s fastest EV in production, Edited March 14, 2022 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nsdp + 449 eh March 14, 2022 (edited) On 3/11/2022 at 11:00 AM, kshithij Sharma said: The second link clearly says that hydrogen is stored under low pressure. But such low pressure storage of hydrogen makes little sense. Even fuel cells in space shuttles and submarine AIPs have some type of hydrogen storage. But they don't work in practical life simply because of low quantity or complexity of stored hydrogen. We need containers that store large quantity of pressurised hydrogen just like pressurised natural gas is stored. Such technology in mass scale is not feasible yet. About hydrogen pipelines, hydrogen pipelines in plants like urea production, syngas production, refineries using hydrogenation etc are not really effective. I am talking of pressurised hydrogen pipelines just like how Natural gas is sent in pressurised pipelines. Low pressured pipes are not something to discuss about. High pressure hydrogen handling is still a big problem which is not yet resolved If you look at the attached pdf page 8,https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2020/01/f70/fcto-fcs-h2-scale-2019-workshop-19-meeks.pdf you will find a chart listing three salt dome storage facilities in Texas that store 2400metric tons of H2 (81GWH) at 1986bar = 198600 kilopascal at Clemens Dome operating for 40 years; 3690 tons of H2(123 GWH) at 2204 bar = 220400 kilopascal at Moss Bluff; and 8230 metric tons of H2(274GWH) at 2929 bar = 292900 kilopascal at Spindletop/."he facility is capable of holding enough hydrogen to back up a large-scale steam methane reformer (SMR) unit for 30days. " https://www.airliquide.com/sites/airliquide.com/files/2017/01/03/usa-air-liquide-operates-the_world-s-largest-hydrogen-storage-facility.pdf Total is 14,320 metric tons of hydrogen. Using the design of DOE Morgantown WV published in 1996 with a fuel cell and topping and bottoming cycles at a 72.3% efficiency that is 474 GWH(474,000,000kwh) with just three caverns . You sir have obviously demonstrated gross ignorance and bias. Edited March 14, 2022 by nsdp correct gwhto kwh conversion 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nsdp + 449 eh March 14, 2022 (edited) On 3/12/2022 at 3:02 PM, Eyes Wide Open said: One thought on that thread, and watching the Ukraine being swept away. President Biden’s national security adviser, "Jake Sullivan" is referred to in one of the indictments obtained by special counsel John Durham in his investigation into the origins of the Russia probe of former President Donald Trump, Fox News https://nypost.com/2021/11/09/biden-nsa-jake-sullivans-future-questioned-over-russia-hoax-role/ Oh great stupid one, do you not know that Mr, Durham has come under investigation for violations Federal Rules of procedure for doing what you have done. That is cherry picking dates and emails in violation of Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963), and omitting/altering evidence that contradicts his time line. Edited March 14, 2022 by nsdp spelling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,080 DM March 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, QuarterCenturyVet said: The world, you ignorant fuckface, is what he's talking about. I know you're a pedantic geriatric dickmouth, but cherry picking only China isn't going to help you. @Selva....hope you put an end to his behavior Edited March 14, 2022 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 March 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, nsdp said: Oh great stupid one, do you not know that Mr, Durham has come under investigation for violations Federal Rules of procedure for doing what you have done. That is cherry picking dates and emails in violation of Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963), and omitting/altering evidence that contradicts his time line. Lions,Tigers, and bears Ohh my! That would make for great copy. Durham under indictment for Clinton campaign election fraud. I'd call the Times and get the ball rolling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nsdp + 449 eh March 14, 2022 21 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Lions,Tigers, and bears Ohh my! That would make for great copy. Durham under indictment for Clinton campaign election fraud. I'd call the Times and get the ball rolling. Boy do you seem to be illiterate. Durham is under judicial ethics violations for the way he conducted his investigation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,080 DM March 14, 2022 if a few weeks these hit the streets...... Enjoy Exclusive Ford F-150 Lightning Winter Ride-Along Proves This Truck Is Ready for Every Season We experience Ford's new all-electric truck from the passenger seat as engineers put it through the wringer in nasty winter conditions. Craig Cole March 11, 2022 2:00 a.m. Ford's upcoming F-150 Lighting sounds like a legitimately transformative product. This all-electric truck has respectable range, is surprisingly affordable in its base form and should offer all the features, ruggedness and capability F-Series customers expect. In fact, some 200,000 eager beavers have already plunked down money to reserve one. But despite the Lightning's myriad benefits over combustion-powered pickups, it is still an EV, which means cold weather use could be a serious issue. To see how this battery-powered F-150 handles winter's worst, Ford invited me to Michigan's remote -- and frigid -- Upper Peninsula for some exclusive passenger-seat time in the truck. And yes, you read that correctly, passenger seat time. Ford wouldn't let me climb behind the wheel when the truck was revealed last spring and I was barred from the captain's chair again. Still, there is plenty you can glean from an extended ride-along. For starters, the Lightning is a stable and planted pickup, even when driven in a way you'd never do on public roads. Cameron Dillon, a powertrain calibration engineer at Ford, demonstrated how agile this all-electric pickup is by sliding it around a groomed snowfield. This gigantic -- and slippery -- surface gave him plenty of space to get the truck sideways, which he had no trouble doing. "I laugh, because my brother, he always tells people that for my job I just come up north and drift cars around," Dillon said while drifting the Lightning. "So, there's some truth to that for sure." Dillon's been working on fine-tuning how this truck puts power to the pavement -- or in this case, to hard-packed snow and ice -- to make sure it responds intuitively and precisely to driver commands. 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning Dances in the Snow See all photos +41 More What's particularly interesting about this demonstration is that our steed has not been treated to any special modifications to increase its performance. "So, everything [we're] doing today, this truck is strictly production," noted Dillon, which means owners will be able to switch traction and stability control off at the push of a button if they want to get squirrely. "So, what we're doing to change the response of the vehicle is strictly shifting the power from the front and the rear, to change how the vehicle is behaving," explained Dillon, "[and] the heart of it is, these controls are active all the time." Even from the passenger seat you can tell this truck's electric drivetrain reacts immediately to inputs, since there are no camshaft phasers to deal with, ignition timing to adjust, turbo boost to manage or even a transmission; all the normal complexities associated with internal combustion are gone. The Lightning features a pair of three-phase, fixed-magnet AC electric motors, one at the front and another at the rear. This gives the truck up to 563 horsepower and 775 pound-feet of torque when fitted with the extended-range battery pack, which should be able to go up to 300 miles between charges. The standard battery assembly is estimated to offer 230 miles of range with a still-potent 426 hp and the same measure of torque. For particular gnarly situations, the Lightning also offers a locking rear differential. Dillon's demonstration illustrated how this all-electric truck responds in at-the-limit situations that customers hopefully won't experience on the street -- 'cause you shouldn't drive recklessly on public roads. Naturally, engineers learned important lessons tuning the Mustang Mach-E's all-wheel-drive system and applied those to this project to make sure the Lightning is smooth and intuitive. Enlarge Image The new Lightning should be ready for every kind of weather condition. Nick Miotke/Roadshow On-road performance Driven more normally on a small, snowy road course, the Lightning feels exactly like a conventional F-150 -- but better. Thanks to an independent rear suspension, there's no rear-end shimmy or shake when rolling over irregular surfaces, something you often get with live-axle setups. Joel Bloch, a vehicle integration engineer, explained that Ford went with this setup to meet certain packaging requirements and to help accommodate a full-size spare tire. . Bloch explained engineers were also able to deliver those improved road manners without impacting the truck's payload or towing performance. The Lightning is estimated be able to haul 2,000 pounds of cargo and drag trailers weighing up to 10,000 pounds, legit numbers to be certain. "The truck feels very planted, you feel very in control, especially on low-mu (low-grip) surfaces," Bloch said while snaking the Lightning around a lower-speed road course. Indeed, this rig is remarkably car-like and extremely rigid, free of any rattles or jiggles. "I think you definitely feel the fact that the vehicle is a little heavier than a gas F-150 is today," he acknowledged, "but that weight just feels very controlled and planted as you're going around turns no matter what the surface is." Enlarge Image Higher-trim versions of the Lightning come with a huge, 15.5-inch infotainment screen. Nick Miotke/Roadshow Cold-weather range anxiety Of course, husky curb weights are a major issue with EVs and so is cold weather, which can have a significant impact on range. When asked how frosty conditions impact the Lightning's performance, Bloch didn't have a precise answer. "I think something that all automakers are going to struggle with is really publishing a value on that. We do know that, based on the physics of the battery pack, you're going to experience a degraded range number in cold ambient conditions," he said, an issue that is in no way unique to Ford. "The really big thing that we're focusing on is educating customers on how they can improve that," Bloch added. He encourages drivers to plug into Level 2 chargers whenever possible to precondition the battery. Route planning on long trips is super important, too. Trailering will also have a major impact on how far this all-electric truck can go between charges. Helping customers tow with confidence, Bloch explained the Lightning intelligently estimates range based on how you're currently driving and your history. Speed is also factored in, as is route planning. You can even set up unique towing profiles in the infotainment system so the truck learns how efficient a specific trailer is, because dragging a small rowboat is totally different than pulling an overloaded camper. But regardless of its impact on range, Bloch said, "The F-150 Lighting towing is quite possibly one of the greatest experiences from a performance standpoint ... it's going to be amazing." The instant torque of those electric motors should move nearly any load almost effortlessly. One potentially significant downside to driving a Lightning in cold weather, however, is the truck's resistive heater, a power-hungry device that works like a hairdryer. This design is not as efficient as newer heat pumps, but Bloch explained Ford went the resistive route because of packaging. Remember, even though there are significant differences, the Lightning is still essentially an F-150. Starting with an existing vehicle instead of a clean-sheet design -- like the Rivian R1T and GMC Hummer EV Pickup -- comes with benefits and trade-offs. "I think using our proven capability of the F-Series lineup, honestly, gives us more credit than a lot of the ground-up EV manufacturers," Bloch said. Ford's manufacturing teams already know how to build hundreds of thousands of F-Series truck each year, something that will allow them to get the Lightning out to customers in large volumes faster. Enlarge Image Ford already builds hundreds of thousands of F-Series trucks every year, so it can take advantage of that know-how and those vast economies of scale to get the Lightning to customers faster. Ford Lightning strikes soon Based on my time in the passenger seat, this new Lightning feels like a truck that can do just about anything. It builds on the current-generation F-150's all-around excellence while providing immense capability and improved handling in adverse conditions, including nasty winter weather. Lightnings are expected to start shipping this spring, something the development team is psyched about. "I personally am super excited to get these trucks out into customer hands," Bloch said. "I think they're absolutely going to love them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,080 DM March 14, 2022 (edited) Is the Ford F-150 Lightning the Key to the Electric Future? by Charles Singh Published on March 13, 2022 The Ford F-150 Lightning is the Blue Oval’s first electric pickup truck. The electric pickup truck may be more important than consumers realize. Can the F-150 Lightning make a huge impact in the fight against climate change? Electric pickup trucks play an important role in the electric future The 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning | Ford Motor1 claims that electric pickup trucks have an important role to play in the reduction of carbon emissions. Since pickup trucks have poorer gas mileage than most cars and SUVs, truck owners switching to electric vehicles makes a greater impact than car or SUV drivers making the switch. If a large number of truck drivers switch from internal combustion engine vehicles to electric vehicles, they can significantly decrease the amount of greenhouse gases produced by automobiles. Luckily for the environment, several large automakers are rolling out electric pickup trucks in the next few years. Automakers like Ford and Stellantis are releasing electric trucks to appeal to the modern pickup truck driver. These electric trucks have all the capability of internal combustion engine trucks, and in some cases, even more power. Electric pickup trucks play an important role in our struggle to deal with the climate crisis because the pickup truck segment is one of the most popular vehicle segments in America. If automakers are able to create popular electric truck models, the world can see a drastic decline in carbon emissions over time. To successfully reduce carbon emissions, an automaker would need to produce an electric pickup truck that American truck lovers can easily get behind. Enter the Ford F-150 Lightning. How many F-150 Lightning reservations are there? 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning front 3/4 | Matthew Skwarczek, MotorBiscuit RELATED: Here’s What a Fully Loaded 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning Platinum Gets You Electrek claimed that there were over 200,000 F-150 Lightning reservations back in December 2021. Clearly, there’s an interest in the Blue Oval’s first electric pickup truck. Ford is achieving great success in electric vehicle sales by electrifying two of its signature nameplates: the Mustang and the F-150. Some consumers were skeptical about how those two legendary nameplates would perform as EVs, but sales show that some consumers are willing to give electric Ford vehicles a try. The Ford F-150 Lightning hasn’t even arrived at dealerships yet and it is already wildly popular. Ford’s electric pickup truck is here to stay. The Blue Oval is already set to begin production on a second-generation F-150 Lightning in 2025. Is the Ford F-150 Lightning a good pickup truck? RELATED: The Electric Ram 1500 Will Shock the Ford F-150 Lightning The Ford F-150 Lightning starts at $39,974. After electric vehicle tax incentives, its price could be closer to $32,474. The electric pickup’s standard range battery will be able to power the vehicle for 230 miles. The long-range battery is capable of powering the EV for 300 miles. The base model can produce a whopping 426 horsepower and 775 lb-ft of torque. The F-150 Lightning has yet to release but appears to be both practical and affordable. The Blue Oval has done it again and created a truck that could become an American staple over time like the F-150. Edited March 14, 2022 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 March 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, nsdp said: Boy do you seem to be illiterate. Durham is under judicial ethics violations for the way he conducted his investigation. It's past your bedtime is it not? Then again maybe you lost some clarity in the translation. Suggesting that special counsel John Durham may be playing to the press, a federal judge overseeing his case against a Democratic Party-tied lawyer warned prosecutors and defense attorneys to be “mindful” that their filings focus on issues that matter to the court. https://lawandcrime.com/russia-investigation/judge-chides-durham-team-for-putting-extraneous-information-in-court-documents-you-folks-have-an-audience-of-one-and-thats-me/ The 26-page indictment of former cybersecurity attorney and Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann by special counsel John Durham is as detailed as it is damning on the alleged effort to push a false Russia collusion claim before the 2016 presidential campaign. One line, however, seems to reverberate for those of us who have followed this scandal for years now: "You do realize that we will have to expose every trick we have in our bag." That warning from an unnamed "university researcher" captures the most fascinating aspect of the indictment in describing a type of Nixonian dirty tricks operation run by - or at least billed to - the Clinton campaign. With Nixon, his personal attorney and the Committee to Re-Elect the President (CREEP) paid for operatives to engage in disruptive and ultimately criminal conduct targeting his opponents. With Clinton, the indictment and prior disclosures suggest that Clinton campaign lawyers at the law firm of Perkins Coie helped organize an effort to spread Russia collusion stories and trigger an investigation. Durham accuses Sussmann of lying to the general counsel of the FBI in September 2016 when Sussmann delivered documents and data to the FBI supposedly supporting a claim that Russia's Alfa Bank was used as a direct conduit between former President Trump's campaign and the Kremlin. According to Durham, Sussman told the FBI general counsel that he was not delivering the information on behalf of any client. The indictment not only details multiple billings to the Clinton campaign as the data was collected and the documents created; it claims Sussman billed the campaign for the actual meeting with the FBI. At the time, Perkins Coie attorney Marc Elias was general counsel for the Clinton campaign. Both men have since left the firm. https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/572861-clinton-lawyers-indictment-reveals-bag-of-tricks Let's go big or go home...welcome back to home base. Even for those of us who followed and wrote on the Russia investigation for five years, much has been revealed in the last year. It was disclosed in October, for instance, that President Obama was briefed by his CIA director, John Brennan, on July 28, 2016, on intelligence suggesting that Hillary Clinton planned to tie then-candidate Donald Trump to Russia as “a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server.” The date was significant because the Russia investigation was initiated July 31, 2016, just three days later. https://jonathanturley.org/2021/08/16/beware-the-eephus-washington-on-edge-as-durham-prepares-possible-indictments-and-report/ Edited March 14, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,080 DM March 14, 2022 7 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: My view? I am no politician, my views would be rather insulting to many. Suggesting a bounty on environmental activists seems rather appropriate, not to be confused however with environmental reasoning...However it would require some time clearly define the lines...perhaps a decade or two? Ok back to reality of....Fake News. China Is Planning to Build 43 New Coal-Fired Power Plants. Can It Still Keep Its Promises to Cut Emissions? https://time.com/6090732/china-coal-power-plants-emissions/ your article is out of date.............Try posting something from 2022. ENERGY No new coal power plants ‘in principle’ China Dialogue March 3, 2022 On 28 February, the National Energy Administration (NEA) suggested it will “further clarify the strict control of coal power plant projects, and in principle not [permit] the construction of any new coal power plants designed exclusively for electricity generation.” The NEA was responding to proposals made at last year’s “Twin Sessions” meetings of top legislators, on the role of coal power in 2021–2025, in the context of China reaching carbon neutrality by 2060. The response leaves space, however, for new co-generation coal-powered facilities, such as plants that generate both power and heat, which are commonly used in energy-intensive industrial processes. It also permits the construction of new coal power plants for electricity generation “to a certain extent”, in order to ensure stability in the power system. No further details are given on the space left for approving coal power plants. Last year saw a total freeze on coal power plant approval. However, 33GW worth of coal power capacity, which had ben approved pre-2021, did enter construction, according to the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air. So far this year, five new coal power plants, with a total capacity of 7.3GW, have received construction approval. The NEA’s response comes against a backdrop of increasing financial difficulties for coal power plants amid rising coal prices. Last year, Datang Power, one of China’s largest state-owned power producers, lossed a net 9.7–11.6 billion yuan (US$1.5–1.8 billion), according to China Energy News. Coal prices are surging to historic highs this week as markets react to the sanctions placed on Russia, the world’s third largest coal exporter. In its response, the NEA also stated its “active support” for the further development of hydro, solar and wind power, and the development of transmission links between provinces. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kshithij Sharma + 78 March 14, 2022 3 hours ago, nsdp said: If you look at the attached pdf page 8,https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2020/01/f70/fcto-fcs-h2-scale-2019-workshop-19-meeks.pdf you will find a chart listing three salt dome storage facilities in Texas that store 2400metric tons of H2 (81GWH) at 1986bar = 198600 kilopascal at Clemens Dome operating for 40 years; 3690 tons of H2(123 GWH) at 2204 bar = 220400 kilopascal at Moss Bluff; and 8230 metric tons of H2(274GWH) at 2929 bar = 292900 kilopascal at Spindletop/."he facility is capable of holding enough hydrogen to back up a large-scale steam methane reformer (SMR) unit for 30days. " https://www.airliquide.com/sites/airliquide.com/files/2017/01/03/usa-air-liquide-operates-the_world-s-largest-hydrogen-storage-facility.pdf Total is 14,320 metric tons of hydrogen. Using the design of DOE Morgantown WV published in 1996 with a fuel cell and topping and bottoming cycles at a 72.3% efficiency that is 474 GWH(474,000,000kwh) with just three caverns . You sir have obviously demonstrated gross ignorance and bias. It is mentioned that it can store with 50% efficiency for 1.7days. Having enough capacity to sustain SMR is not the question but the question is about how long can it hold Hydrogen with enough efficiency for generating power. Try to understand the difference between SMR & power generation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, kshithij Sharma said: It is mentioned that it can store with 50% efficiency for 1.7days. Having enough capacity to sustain SMR is not the question but the question is about how long can it hold Hydrogen with enough efficiency for generating power. Try to understand the difference between SMR & power generation Haha, dude, it can store indefinitely. The 1.7 means it can power a 1GW 50% efficient generator for 1.7 days. Edited March 14, 2022 by Jay McKinsey 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, notsonice said: your article is out of date.............Try posting something from 2022. ENERGY No new coal power plants ‘in principle’ China Dialogue March 3, 2022 On 28 February, the National Energy Administration (NEA) suggested it will “further clarify the strict control of coal power plant projects, and in principle not [permit] the construction of any new coal power plants designed exclusively for electricity generation.” The NEA was responding to proposals made at last year’s “Twin Sessions” meetings of top legislators, on the role of coal power in 2021–2025, in the context of China reaching carbon neutrality by 2060. The response leaves space, however, for new co-generation coal-powered facilities, such as plants that generate both power and heat, which are commonly used in energy-intensive industrial processes. It also permits the construction of new coal power plants for electricity generation “to a certain extent”, in order to ensure stability in the power system. No further details are given on the space left for approving coal power plants. Last year saw a total freeze on coal power plant approval. However, 33GW worth of coal power capacity, which had ben approved pre-2021, did enter construction, according to the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air. So far this year, five new coal power plants, with a total capacity of 7.3GW, have received construction approval. The NEA’s response comes against a backdrop of increasing financial difficulties for coal power plants amid rising coal prices. Last year, Datang Power, one of China’s largest state-owned power producers, lossed a net 9.7–11.6 billion yuan (US$1.5–1.8 billion), according to China Energy News. Coal prices are surging to historic highs this week as markets react to the sanctions placed on Russia, the world’s third largest coal exporter. In its response, the NEA also stated its “active support” for the further development of hydro, solar and wind power, and the development of transmission links between provinces. So this explains Xi's pep talk he gave the coal industry that the fossil fools here have been ranting and posting about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,315 RG March 14, 2022 5 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: Jay... et al.... The number of EV's sold is massively influenced by Chinese numbers.... What they consider an EV car is not even sold outside of China.(yet) Most of them can seat 4 at best, a sack of groceries, and has a range of ~200km that no one dares get in a crash in. Truth be told, that is pretty much all you need in super population dense Europe/Eastern China or pretty much any other major city anywhere in the world. Still waiting for the cobalt free LiNMC batteries. Supposedly Iron/Aluminum + doping agent using same machines already in use with a massive 500kW/kg is in testing here in USA... we shall see. If that becomes reality, then only Nickel is the real stumbling block and raw lithium mining. If this happens, the world supply transportation companies will change overnight. End user will still not care as no different than ICE other than they will have to update their home etc, but what happens to all the homes that require 3 such cars being charged every night... Right... they are going to be charged during the day... uh huh sure... All on July 4th or Christmas day or Thanksgiving day or whatever holiday is equivalent in your country who is reading this.... Most of the world dosent have big city driving like say Houston that has 8 lanes of wall to wall cars going 75. You do need a safe car. Lots of people die per year even with heavier cars. If the dream of AI hits the road there should be less cars and they could set the speed at sixty basically slowing down traffic flow. Buy there will be plenty of Texans wanting to go 90 mph. Rual US with small towns would be fine for electric. Many towns you can’t go above 20 mph. So yea, a golf cart works. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,635 RP March 14, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 10:27 PM, Jay McKinsey said: The six wind farms are on top of two already cleared by the government on 18 February this year, which have a capacity of 65.5 MW. Theyll need a hell of a lot more than 65.5MW if theyre moving away from Russian gas as they claim, thats a miniscule amount. Try 10-15GW and that will put a large hole in their dependency on gas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,635 RP March 14, 2022 UK renewable energy capacity set to double by 2026, when offshore wind will overtake onshore https://www.energyvoice.com/renewables-energy-transition/wind/uk-wind/274960/uk-renewable-energy-capacity-double-2026/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,635 RP March 14, 2022 China To Expand Coal Use As It Prioritizes Energy Security https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-To-Expand-Coal-Use-As-It-Prioritizes-Energy-Security.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,635 RP March 14, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 5:00 PM, kshithij Sharma said: The second link clearly says that hydrogen is stored under low pressure. But such low pressure storage of hydrogen makes little sense. Even fuel cells in space shuttles and submarine AIPs have some type of hydrogen storage. But they don't work in practical life simply because of low quantity or complexity of stored hydrogen. We need containers that store large quantity of pressurised hydrogen just like pressurised natural gas is stored. Such technology in mass scale is not feasible yet. About hydrogen pipelines, hydrogen pipelines in plants like urea production, syngas production, refineries using hydrogenation etc are not really effective. I am talking of pressurised hydrogen pipelines just like how Natural gas is sent in pressurised pipelines. Low pressured pipes are not something to discuss about. High pressure hydrogen handling is still a big problem which is not yet resolved Hydrogen On Track To Become A $1 Trillion Per Year Industry https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Renewable-Energy/Hydrogen-On-Track-To-Become-A-1-Trillion-Per-Year-Industry.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,315 RG March 14, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 10:57 PM, TailingsPond said: They make a good point that we shouldn't use food to run cars when people are starving. You can't eat oil directly, you can eat corn. How about no children if you can’t afford to feed, clothe, medical and educate them. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,315 RG March 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Rob Plant said: China To Expand Coal Use As It Prioritizes Energy Security https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-To-Expand-Coal-Use-As-It-Prioritizes-Energy-Security.html Did the Mongolian coal ever show up. Or is this the same shortage from 2 years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 476 GE March 14, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Boat said: How about no children if you can’t afford to feed, clothe, medical and educate them. Well either you make abortions mandatory for "unlicensed couples" or outlaw sex. Good luck with either of those. Edited March 14, 2022 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Rob Plant said: China To Expand Coal Use As It Prioritizes Energy Security https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-To-Expand-Coal-Use-As-It-Prioritizes-Energy-Security.html They are actually clamping down on coal growth and Xi was giving a pep talk to the coal industry that the transition to renewables would take time and that coal would be around for awhile. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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