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2 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Congratulations on the new Rav4 hybrid. But you could have gotten a Prime.

More importantly though is the fact that you are not a Green so the only reason you got a hybrid was to save money. Yet another great example of Green technologies being lower cost than fossil. Thank you for helping make my point.

The Rav4 hybrid was my wifes pick, not mine. I just paid for it. We traded AWD Rav4 2016 on it. Both are all wheel drive and I paid extra for the 2020 as is much nicer, more options auto. Mileage doesn't mean squat to me. I have several trucks, all F-350's that burn some diesel. My weekly fuel runs around 350 now at 5.00 a gallon. I pass the extra cost on like any other business man. No better EV truck made that will pull the weights I do for many miles. Diesel still a better choice as miles and weight don't work well together. The Rivian midweight truck like the F-250 but it need special power panels for several trucks to charge 13 hours at night. I will let others "test" the durability of these very pricey trucks. Unfortunately Illinois has very high rates for commercial business' even in off hours. No breaks for plug in.

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the death of coal one turbine at a time  or in this case 356 wind turbines

Massive new wind farm goes online in Oklahoma
The Traverse Wind Energy Center has 356 wind turbines providing 1,484 megawatts of wind-powered energy — saving customers an estimated $3 billion in electricity costs over the next 30 years

By
Shirin Ali | March 28, 2022

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In this Monday, June 12, 2017 file photo, wind turbines are pictured near El Reno, Okla.Sue Ogrocki/ AP

Story at a glance

  • American Electric Power (AEP) announced its Traverse Wind Energy Center began operating on March 21, providing wind-powered energy to Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana.
  • The center marks the largest wind farm built at one time in North America.
  • It’s expected to generate 3.8 million megawatt hours annually for AEP’s Oklahoma customers.

One of the largest wind farms built in North America is now up and running in Oklahoma, providing wind power to customers in the state as well as to neighboring Arkansas and Louisiana. 

American Electric Power (AEP), a Columbus-based power company, announced its Traverse Wind Energy Center began operating on March 21. 

The Traverse center is expected to generate 3.8 million megawatt hours annually for AEP’s Public Service Company of Oklahoma and Southwestern Electric Power Company customers in Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana — saving customers an estimated $3 billion in electricity costs over the next 30 years. 

The Traverse center is the largest of three wind projects of AEP’s North Central Energy Facilities, with 356 wind turbines providing 1,484 megawatts of clean energy.


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AEP is one of the largest electric energy companies in the U.S, serving 5.5 million Americans across nearly a dozen states, including Arkansas, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia and West Virginia. 

Roughly 45 percent of AEP’s plants use coal-fueled power while natural gas represents about 28 percent and 7 percent comes from nuclear. The remaining 17 percent comes from a combination of wind, hydro, pumped storage and other sources.  

“AEP is investing $8.2 billion in regulated renewables and nearly $25 billion in the transmission and distribution systems through 2026 to modernize the grid, enhance reliability and resilience and deliver more emissions-free energy to our customers,” said Nicholas K. Atkins, AEP chairman, president and CEO, in a statement. 

Atkins also said AEP plans to add about 16,000 megawatts of wind and solar to their North Central region by 2030, to hit the company’s goal of net zero carbon emissions by 2050. 

Wind power is gaining steam in the U.S., as the Biden administration announced last week that it had secured the first offshore wind energy lease sale off the coast of the Carolinas. The Interior Department projects that area could provide 1.3 gigawatts of offshore wind energy — enough to power nearly 500,000 homes.

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On 4/23/2021 at 11:01 AM, Meredith Poor said:

Name calling and label slapping, as usual. If the title on your topic is 'Blizzard of Lies' then itemize the lies and bring to 'truth' to bear on them. All anyone does with the name calling and irrelevant expositions on hypocrisy is muddle up the discussion.

Those lies have been exposed here, just read the items on science exaggeration and fossil fuel misrepresentation. 

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15 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Congratulations on the new Rav4 hybrid. But you could have gotten a Prime.

More importantly though is the fact that you are not a Green so the only reason you got a hybrid was to save money. Yet another great example of Green technologies being lower cost than fossil. Thank you for helping make my point.

Jay, you own and drive an internal combustion vehicle reliant on fossil fuels...thank you for making my point again.

Happy wheels, old man.

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8 hours ago, notsonice said:

 

the death of coal one turbine at a time  or in this case 356 wind turbines

Massive new wind farm goes online in Oklahoma
The Traverse Wind Energy Center has 356 wind turbines providing 1,484 megawatts of wind-powered energy — saving customers an estimated $3 billion in electricity costs over the next 30 years

By
Shirin Ali | March 28, 2022

ca_okwindfarm_ap.jpg?width=1600

In this Monday, June 12, 2017 file photo, wind turbines are pictured near El Reno, Okla.Sue Ogrocki/ AP

Story at a glance

  • American Electric Power (AEP) announced its Traverse Wind Energy Center began operating on March 21, providing wind-powered energy to Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana.
  • The center marks the largest wind farm built at one time in North America.
  • It’s expected to generate 3.8 million megawatt hours annually for AEP’s Oklahoma customers.

One of the largest wind farms built in North America is now up and running in Oklahoma, providing wind power to customers in the state as well as to neighboring Arkansas and Louisiana. 

American Electric Power (AEP), a Columbus-based power company, announced its Traverse Wind Energy Center began operating on March 21. 

The Traverse center is expected to generate 3.8 million megawatt hours annually for AEP’s Public Service Company of Oklahoma and Southwestern Electric Power Company customers in Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana — saving customers an estimated $3 billion in electricity costs over the next 30 years. 

The Traverse center is the largest of three wind projects of AEP’s North Central Energy Facilities, with 356 wind turbines providing 1,484 megawatts of clean energy.


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AEP is one of the largest electric energy companies in the U.S, serving 5.5 million Americans across nearly a dozen states, including Arkansas, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia and West Virginia. 

Roughly 45 percent of AEP’s plants use coal-fueled power while natural gas represents about 28 percent and 7 percent comes from nuclear. The remaining 17 percent comes from a combination of wind, hydro, pumped storage and other sources.  

“AEP is investing $8.2 billion in regulated renewables and nearly $25 billion in the transmission and distribution systems through 2026 to modernize the grid, enhance reliability and resilience and deliver more emissions-free energy to our customers,” said Nicholas K. Atkins, AEP chairman, president and CEO, in a statement. 

Atkins also said AEP plans to add about 16,000 megawatts of wind and solar to their North Central region by 2030, to hit the company’s goal of net zero carbon emissions by 2050. 

Wind power is gaining steam in the U.S., as the Biden administration announced last week that it had secured the first offshore wind energy lease sale off the coast of the Carolinas. The Interior Department projects that area could provide 1.3 gigawatts of offshore wind energy — enough to power nearly 500,000 homes.

World-wide coal production and coal based energy have reached all-time highs now, and will continue to increase going forward.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

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The demand for fossil fuels is strong and getting stronger.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/There-Is-No-Short-Term-Solution-To-Europes-Oil-Addiction.html

"Russia provides 29 percent of the crude oil that Europe consumes, as well as 51 percent of the oil products that the continent consumes. And Europe consumes a lot of oil and oil products despite its eager energy shift. But that's not all. Two years ago, the European Union received almost 97 percent of the oil and oil products it consumed from external sources, according to Eurostat. In other words, the EU is more import-dependent than India when it comes to oil.

Obviously, with such a degree of dependence, an oil embargo on the union's biggest supplier would be a disaster for the continent. This means that the discussions held last week and reported on in abundance by the media were likely nothing more than an exercise in political posturing. It was obvious from day one such an embargo was not happening anytime soon.

An immediate oil embargo on Russian imports "from one day to the next would mean plunging our country and the whole of Europe into a recession," Germany's Chancellor Olaf Sholz said last week, as quoted by Reuters' John Kemp."

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Interesting wind farms are going up in red wind states. But the love to hate is what’s talked about while they live with turbines the size of sky scrapers. Seems weird that with so much hate these wind farms keep going up decade after decade. All the fear of intermittency doesn't seem to scare Oklahoma. Big storms don’t seem to kill in Oklahoma either. Kansas loves wind, These states are as red as it gets. It’s true they are not being loyal to Trump. It seems money talks, bull shyt is losing to wind?

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6 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

World-wide coal production and coal based energy have reached all-time highs now, and will continue to increase going forward.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Especially from those Coal digging Mongrels. We can’t wait for the numbers. Tap, tap, tap,         waiting.

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2 minutes ago, Boat said:

Especially from those Coal digging Mongrels. We can’t wait for the numbers. Tap, tap, tap,         waiting.

The numbers have already been given to you. Start reading, lazy-bones.

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8 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

The demand for fossil fuels is strong and getting stronger.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/There-Is-No-Short-Term-Solution-To-Europes-Oil-Addiction.html

"Russia provides 29 percent of the crude oil that Europe consumes, as well as 51 percent of the oil products that the continent consumes. And Europe consumes a lot of oil and oil products despite its eager energy shift. But that's not all. Two years ago, the European Union received almost 97 percent of the oil and oil products it consumed from external sources, according to Eurostat. In other words, the EU is more import-dependent than India when it comes to oil.

Obviously, with such a degree of dependence, an oil embargo on the union's biggest supplier would be a disaster for the continent. This means that the discussions held last week and reported on in abundance by the media were likely nothing more than an exercise in political posturing. It was obvious from day one such an embargo was not happening anytime soon.

An immediate oil embargo on Russian imports "from one day to the next would mean plunging our country and the whole of Europe into a recession," Germany's Chancellor Olaf Sholz said last week, as quoted by Reuters' John Kemp."

Nice stats, but not anymore. Russias new area of expertise is losing Generals and military equipment.

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Has XI asked Putin for the billions lost due to supply chains shut down for the belt road to nowhere? That was supposed to end in Europe. Hmmmmm. Lots and lots of billions. Did you know China was Ukraines biggest trade partner? 

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5 minutes ago, Boat said:

Has XI asked Putin for the billions lost due to supply chains shut down for the belt road to nowhere? That was supposed to end in Europe. Hmmmmm. Lots and lots of billions. Did you know China was Ukraines biggest trade partner? 

What is your attempted point?....Hmmmmmm.

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Oil demand is strong going forward and oil is easily the hottest commodity on the markets.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/International-Energy-Forum-150-Oil-Is-Possible.html

"Secretary-General of the International Energy Forum McMonigle: Oil prices could spike to $150 per barrel.

Current IEF projections point to an impact of around 1.5 million barrels per day (bpd) on Russian oil supply.

McMonigle: We’re in store for a lot of volatility and higher prices over the next several months."

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Canada can afford to run pipelines over their own land now. They can refine their own oil. They can hire Texans to teach them. Probably some running Russians that could use a welding job. I don’t think Texans can weld in the cold. Some wear a stocking hat at 94 degrees. 

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You know the Saudi killed around 82 jailed prisoners recently? Let’s kick them out of that refinery they own in the US. Worth 20 billion? Like Putin, you can’t trade with people like that. If you want to trade you kiss unicorn ass. Lol

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10 minutes ago, Boat said:

Canada can afford to run pipelines over their own land now. They can refine their own oil. They can hire Texans to teach them.

Laughable. The arrogance that the USA knows something we don't about our oil.

 

 

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Volvo Trucks announced that it received a record order of 110 electric trucks from Maersk, and all those trucks should be delivered by early next year.

Commercial electric truck deployment is rapidly growing, and Volvo Trucks is emerging as a leader.

The company is aiming for 50% of its trucks to be electric by 2030.

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3 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Laughable. The arrogance that the USA knows something we don't about our oil.

 

 

They can refine their own oil?????????....I do not think Canadians know how to do it very well....why else would they export crude to the US and import finished refined products

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4 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

World-wide coal production and coal based energy have reached all-time highs now, and will continue to increase going forward.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

did you smell coffee when you read the whole article...... I will post it again so you can smell the coffee......

Atkins also said AEP plans to add about 16,000 megawatts of wind and solar to their North Central region by 2030, to hit the company’s goal of net zero carbon emissions by 2050. 

Wind power is gaining steam in the U.S., as the Biden administration announced last week that it had secured the first offshore wind energy lease sale off the coast of the Carolinas. The Interior Department projects that area could provide 1.3 gigawatts of offshore wind energy — enough to power nearly 500,000 homes.

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21 minutes ago, notsonice said:

They can refine their own oil?????????....I do not think Canadians know how to do it very well....why else would they export crude to the US and import finished refined products

Externalities.

We can produce way more crude than we need for the refineries we have.

If we can make money without refining it why not? 

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34 minutes ago, TailingsPond said:

Externalities.

We can produce way more crude than we need for the refineries we have.

If we can make money without refining it why not? 

It is obvious Canadians do not posses the intelligence to refine their own oil.

 

as the other poster made clear.....

Canada can afford to run pipelines over their own land now. They can refine their own oil. They can hire Texans to teach them.

 

Big E.....were you kicked off this site last year or did you put yourself in self -exile?????......Just asking for a friend

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On 3/28/2022 at 2:27 PM, Boat said:

Pumped Hydro doesn't have to be on a river. It just needs enough water to match evaporation. It also needs one elevated pool of water and one lower pool of water. Solar and/or wind can supply the electricity to pump water uphill when it’s cheap. Of course you recreate electricity when prices are higher. The balance renewables need can be expanded by forgetting about fish territory. Any big hill near an ocean or lake works if cheap land is near. Just another area tech will make more relevant as time goes by. 

While your statement is true, there are LARGE regions with no elevation change worthy of the word.  Pumped storage is cheap and obvious in places where nature made it easy.  It’s perfectly infeasible in places where it isn’t.  

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UK Looks To Triple Solar And More Than Quadruple Offshore Wind Power

By Charles Kennedy - Mar 29, 2022, 1:30 PM CDT

 

The UK’s Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy is set to soon unveil targets to triple solar power capacity, quadruple offshore wind installation, and double onshore wind this decade, as part of boosting energy security and becoming less reliant on foreign energy supplies, the Financial Times reported on Tuesday, citing sources close to the government’s plans.

According to those plans, the UK will target to triple its current solar power capacity to 50 gigawatts (GW) from 14 GW now, more than quadruple offshore wind to 50 GW from 11 GW, and boost onshore wind installations to 30 GW by 2030 from 15 GW now. Boosting nuclear power generation capacity will also feature in the new energy security plan of the UK, which pledged earlier this month to phase out by the end of 2022 Russian oil imports after Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.

It hasn’t been an easy process to draft an energy security strategy for the long term, an aide told FT, adding that “Discussions are ongoing.”

 

The UK has targets for offshore wind development, but the solar and onshore capacity installation targets would be the first.

As early as in October 2020, the UK’s Prime Minister Boris Johnson said that the United Kingdom would aim to become a global leader in offshore wind energy, powering every home in the country with wind by 2030.

Despite the UK’s net-zero pledge and its ambitious renewable electricity targets, the country will continue to rely on oil and gas from the North Sea, Johnson said in early February.

After Russia invaded Ukraine at the end of February, the UK doubled down on its commitment to net-zero by 2050, but it also reiterated its support for its domestic oil and gas resources.

Earlier this year, industry body Offshore Energies UK (OEUK) warned that the UK could become much more vulnerable to price shocks and geopolitical events unless new offshore fields are approved and developed—and the UK’s gas production could plummet by 75 percent by 2030.

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20 hours ago, notsonice said:

did you smell coffee when you read the whole article...... I will post it again so you can smell the coffee......

Atkins also said AEP plans to add about 16,000 megawatts of wind and solar to their North Central region by 2030, to hit the company’s goal of net zero carbon emissions by 2050. 

Wind power is gaining steam in the U.S., as the Biden administration announced last week that it had secured the first offshore wind energy lease sale off the coast of the Carolinas. The Interior Department projects that area could provide 1.3 gigawatts of offshore wind energy — enough to power nearly 500,000 homes.

Read the world production and demand numbers for coal, not just for ONE country...coal demand is growing by leaps and bounds. All-time high production and usage levels.

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Here is where California is getting clobbered in terms of standard of living. The Green Mania which has gripped California law-makers has reduced personal driving and increased fuel bills.

This is a self-created disaster, economic self-strangulation caused by Green activists.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Why-Oil-Prices-Are-Finally-Falling.html

"Mobility levels in California have seen only meager growth in recent weeks despite a seasonal uptick taking place across the country, indicating that a prolonged period of high fuel prices would temper seasonality patterns.   

- Gasoline retail prices have averaged $5.70 per gallon over the latest reporting week in California, some $1.50 per barrel above the national average, with current daily prices already at $5.92 per gallon.

- Against this background, weekend mobility data in California has decoupled itself from the nationwide pattern of growth, lingering at levels seen in early 2022. "

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