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22 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

Ok thanks for the heads up and I agree on the battery issues.

For any European who hasnt driven in North America before it is an eye opener when it comes to scale when they finally do.

I once did a 7 hour road trip one way and never left Florida, you'd really struggle to do that in most European countries without crossing a border.

Talahassee to Miami I take it...😃  Navy?

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5 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

Most EV's have a range of 200-250 miles or more so I guess a "long journey" would be more than that.

My question is in the US how many times a month does the average American travel more than that, genuinely I have no idea, if its regularly then they arent much use and will only catch on in urban areas.

In North America or Russia distances are longer. I would not drive a golf cart more than a couple of blocks without getting annoyed.

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5 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Here is evidence:

India aims to cut power output from at least 81 coal-fired plants over 4 years

NEW DELHI, May 30 (Reuters) - India plans to reduce power generation from least 81 coal-fired utilities over the next four years, the federal power ministry said in a letter, in an effort to replace expensive thermal generation with cheaper green energy sources.

The plan aims to maximize green energy potential and save costs, the letter sent to top energy department officials of state and federal government said, but will not involve shutting down old and expensive power plants. India has 173 coal-fired plants.

"The thermal power plants in future shall operate up to the technical minimum to accommodate cheaper renewable energy when it is available," the ministry said in the letter dated May 26.

https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/india-plans-phase-down-least-81-coal-fired-utilities-4-years-document-2022-05-30/

 

I guess you missed this, Jay, Nothing to get excited about. India seems to change its plans every few weeks.

"...will not involve shutting down old and expensive power plants. India has 173 coal-fired plants."

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Oil prices will continue to spiral upwards driven by hot demand.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Upward-Pressure-On-Oil-Prices-Is-Only-Going-To-Increase.html

"Less than a week after OPEC+ decided to speed up its production curtailments and bring 648,000 b/d into the markets in July-August, ICE Brent is back above $120 per barrel. There are several reasons why the initial downward pressure on oil prices did not last. First of all, doubts started creeping in about whether OPEC+ can produce more - in this sense, the steep OSP hikes certainly didn't help. Second, everything is set for a particularly robust period of summer demand and global crude inventories are likely to continue declining. With expectations of weaker macroeconomics still yet to hit demand, the upcoming weeks will see considerable bullish pressure. "

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4 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

Oil prices will continue to spiral upwards driven by hot demand.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Upward-Pressure-On-Oil-Prices-Is-Only-Going-To-Increase.html

"Less than a week after OPEC+ decided to speed up its production curtailments and bring 648,000 b/d into the markets in July-August, ICE Brent is back above $120 per barrel. There are several reasons why the initial downward pressure on oil prices did not last. First of all, doubts started creeping in about whether OPEC+ can produce more - in this sense, the steep OSP hikes certainly didn't help. Second, everything is set for a particularly robust period of summer demand and global crude inventories are likely to continue declining. With expectations of weaker macroeconomics still yet to hit demand, the upcoming weeks will see considerable bullish pressure. "

ICE Brent is back above $120 per barrel????

are you sure you do not work for Tesla??????.....You are making a great case for EVs....Keep up the good work

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ICE Brent is back above $120 per barrel????

are you sure you do not work for Tesla??????.....You are making a great case for EVs....Keep up the good work

No, just pointing out the hot demand for oil and gasoline. That indicates that people still need to travel from A to B using fossil fuels.

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6 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

Source?

sxcoal.com Policy,  Thermal Coal,  Thermal Power 2022-05-31 10:41:50
 
it is right under the title    sxcoal.com. Enjoy the death of coal
 
 

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1 minute ago, notsonice said:
sxcoal.com Policy,  Thermal Coal,  Thermal Power 2022-05-31 10:41:50
 
it is right under the title    sxcoal.com. Enjoy the death of coal
 
 

Coal production is ramping up to all-time highs, hope you enjoy that.

Do you enjoy your current fossil fuel vehicle?

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2 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

No, just pointing out the hot demand for oil and gasoline. That indicates that people still need to travel from A to B using fossil fuels.

hot demand???? just a market in turmoil because of  Russia. You really are slow....Please stay in school Junior...You may pass the 6th grade one of these days

 

And thanks for posting the high price......No one noticed it at all.......lol ,,,,,How much is Elon paying you????

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1 minute ago, Ecocharger said:

Coal production is ramping up to all-time highs, hope you enjoy that.

Do you enjoy your current fossil fuel vehicle?

ramping up??? India is cutting demand ....did you love the article

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20 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

I guess you missed this, Jay, Nothing to get excited about. India seems to change its plans every few weeks.

"...will not involve shutting down old and expensive power plants. India has 173 coal-fired plants."

do you understand they are cutting consumption of coal ....

the article points out............

an effort to replace expensive thermal generation with cheaper green energy sources.

The plan aims to maximize green energy potential and save costs

Enjoy the death of coal ....... Only an idiot advocates  burning coal to generate electricity these days.....Yep that would make Trump an Idiot........

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4 minutes ago, notsonice said:

ramping up??? India is cutting demand ....did you love the article

India is planning to increase coal production. 

And demand for oil and gasoline will continue to soar into the stratosphere thanks to the heavy demand from fossil fuel vehicles, like the one you drive.

Thanks for adding to the demand for fossil fuels with your driving habits.

1 minute ago, notsonice said:

do you understand they are cutting consumption of coal ....

the article points out............

an effort to replace expensive thermal generation with cheaper green energy sources.

The plan aims to maximize green energy potential and save costs

Enjoy the death of coal ....... Only an idiot advocates  burning coal to generate electricity these days.....Yep that would make Trump an Idiot........

No, coal production will increase in India, enjoy it.

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The hot demand for oil will be causing oil prices to soar and that will create a long term demand bulge for fossil fuels.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Trading-Giant-Trafigura-Sees-Oil-Headed-To-150-This-Year.html

"The oil price predictions follow other analyst predictions this week, with Goldman raising its price target for Brent to $140 in the third quarter of this year. Citi also lifted its oil price forecast, to $113 per barrel for the second quarter, and $99 per barrel for the third quarter. Barclays sees oil prices averaging $111 this year—an $11 per barrel price increase from its last estimate.

The price predictions vary wildly – a $40 swing—but so do their reasons for making the upward adjustments. Citi cits a delayed Iran deal, Barclays cites the EU ban on Russian crude oil imports, while Goldman’s price estimation was largely a factor of increased Chinese demand.

Other bullish factors include Saudi Arabia’s recently announced price hikes to its prized market, Asia, and OPEC+’s move to increase production more than it was expected to, signaling to the market that the group sees a need for more oil—now.

Another bullish factor for oil is the question of OPEC+’s ability to meet its new targets."

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Just now, Ecocharger said:

India is planning to increase coal production. 

And demand for oil and gasoline will continue to soar into the stratosphere thanks to the heavy demand from fossil fuel vehicles, like the one you drive.

Thanks for adding to the demand for fossil fuels with your drivin habits.

No, coal production will increase in India, enjoy it.

you obviously live your life in denial. You post no facts , all you do is babble BS........PS it is summer.....My electric bike gets me around just fine....you should get one ...

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1 minute ago, notsonice said:

you obviously live your life in denial. You post no facts , all you do is babble BS........PS it is summer.....My electric bike gets me around just fine....you should get one ...

Read the facts before you babble.

And thanks for driving your fossil fuel vehicle and adding to the hot demand for oil and gasoline.

I appreciate it. Very much.

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1 minute ago, Ecocharger said:

The hot demand for oil will be causing oil prices to soar and that will create a long term demand bulge for fossil fuels.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Trading-Giant-Trafigura-Sees-Oil-Headed-To-150-This-Year.html

"The oil price predictions follow other analyst predictions this week, with Goldman raising its price target for Brent to $140 in the third quarter of this year. Citi also lifted its oil price forecast, to $113 per barrel for the second quarter, and $99 per barrel for the third quarter. Barclays sees oil prices averaging $111 this year—an $11 per barrel price increase from its last estimate.

The price predictions vary wildly – a $40 swing—but so do their reasons for making the upward adjustments. Citi cits a delayed Iran deal, Barclays cites the EU ban on Russian crude oil imports, while Goldman’s price estimation was largely a factor of increased Chinese demand.

Other bullish factors include Saudi Arabia’s recently announced price hikes to its prized market, Asia, and OPEC+’s move to increase production more than it was expected to, signaling to the market that the group sees a need for more oil—now.

Another bullish factor for oil is the question of OPEC+’s ability to meet its new targets."

with Goldman raising its price target for Brent to $140 in the third quarter of this year....Boy you sure make buying an EV look attractive.......I bet you hate it when you tank up your clunker........

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1 minute ago, notsonice said:

with Goldman raising its price target for Brent to $140 in the third quarter of this year....Boy you sure make buying an EV look attractive.......I bet you hate it when you tank up your clunker........

I love it when you tank up your fossil fuel vehicle....thank you.

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https://www.weforum.org/

More electric cars are now sold every week than in the whole of 2012

 
More electric cars are now sold per week than in all of 2012
18 Feb 2022
  1. Johnny Wood Writer, Formative Content

 
Electricity
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  • The global electric car market is growing exponentially.
  • Worldwide sales hit 6.6 million in 2021, almost doubling from the previous year.
  • But carmakers must overcome challenges such as rising material costs and potential shortages of microchips to maintain market growth.

Think back a decade. In 2012, the nascent electric vehicle (EV) market was starting to gain momentum, with global sales of 130,000 cars. Today, that number of electric cars is sold every week.

While the market for petrol and diesel cars has been dampened by the economic fallout from COVID-19, demand for EVs continues to increase.

Factors like climate change and commitments to reach net-zero are helping drive the global shift to emissions-free motoring.

What's the World Economic Forum doing about the transition to clean energy?

Moving to clean energy is key to combating climate change, yet in the past five years, the energy transition has stagnated.

Energy consumption and production contribute to two-thirds of global emissions, and 81% of the global energy system is still based on fossil fuels, the same percentage as 30 years ago. Plus, improvements in the energy intensity of the global economy (the amount of energy used per unit of economic activity) are slowing. In 2018 energy intensity improved by 1.2%, the slowest rate since 2010.

Effective policies, private-sector action and public-private cooperation are needed to create a more inclusive, sustainable, affordable and secure global energy system.

Benchmarking progress is essential to a successful transition. The World Economic Forum’s Energy Transition Index, which ranks 115 economies on how well they balance energy security and access with environmental sustainability and affordability, shows that the biggest challenge facing energy transition is the lack of readiness among the world’s largest emitters, including US, China, India and Russia. The 10 countries that score the highest in terms of readiness account for only 2.6% of global annual emissions.

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To future-proof the global energy system, the Forum’s Shaping the Future of Energy and Materials Platform is working on initiatives including, Systemic Efficiency, Innovation and Clean Energy and the Global Battery Alliance to encourage and enable innovative energy investments, technologies and solutions.

Additionally, the Mission Possible Platform (MPP) is working to assemble public and private partners to further the industry transition to set heavy industry and mobility sectors on the pathway towards net-zero emissions. MPP is an initiative created by the World Economic Forum and the Energy Transitions Commission.

Is your organisation interested in working with the World Economic Forum? Find out more here.

 
A chart to show global sales and sales market share of electric cars between 2010 and 2021
Sales of electric cars made up almost 9% of the global market in 2021.
Image: IEA

Global sales of electric cars reached 2.2 million in 2019. A year later, while demand for conventional cars contracted, sales of electric cars rose to 3 million, accounting for 4.1% of the world market, according to the International Energy Agency (IEA).

Market momentum has continued, with EV sales more than doubling on the year in 2021 to 6.6 million – accounting for almost 9% of the global market. All net growth in car sales around the world in that year came from electric vehicles.

There are now around 16 million electric cars on the world’s roads, according to an IEA estimate. While operating these vehicles requires the equivalent of Ireland’s total electricity generation, they prevent CO2 exhaust emissions reaching the atmosphere – think of it as removing 16 million oil-fuelled cars from the roads.

A chart to show the monthly sales of electric cars in major car markets, comparing 2020 and 2021
China’s electric car sales in 2021 surpassed total global sales for the previous year.
Image: IEA

Total monthly car sales tend to follow an upward trend as a year unfolds. That said, 2021’s sales in the top-three global markets – China, the US and Europe – were more than 50% higher for each month of the year than in 2020.

In China, the world’s fastest-growing EV market, sales doubled in each month of 2021 compared with a year earlier. Overall in 2021, more electric cars were sold in China than were sold throughout the world in 2020.

Europe experienced 70% market growth, selling 2.3 million fully electric and hybrid electric vehicles in 2021, while US sales more than doubled to beyond half a million vehicles.

The numbers look positive for continued market growth across major markets, but the road ahead for electric vehicles may contain some hidden bumps.

Auto manufacturers must contend with looming supply-side challenges, including increasing bulk material costs. Steel prices doubled in 2021, with aluminium prices spiking by up to 70% and copper up by more than a third.

A floor sign of available electric car charging
EV manufacturers could face supply-side shortages in the coming years.
Image: Unsplash/Michael Marais

While these additional costs impacted both conventional and electric vehicle production, EVs also faced specific price challenges associated with battery manufacture, including year-on-year increases for essential materials like lithium carbon (up by 150%), graphite (up by 15%) and nickel (up by 25%). And while there may be a lag before material price hikes hit consumers, the trend is a cause for concern when it comes to market growth.

Another challenge facing the industry is a global shortage of microchips, which has slowed and at times halted production of cars and other products. It’s a shortage that particularly impacts EVs, as their electronic components mean they need 2.3 times more microchips than cars with an internal combustion engine.

Compounding the woes of EV manufacturers, in-demand critical minerals such as lithium and cobalt could be in short supply as early as 2025 unless significant new investment is channelled into expanding production capacity, the IEA says.

Winning the confidence of consumers has been a key part of boosting EV adoption worldwide. The challenge now for car manufacturers and policymakers will be getting new capacity set up to resolve looming supply disruptions, if they are to ensure that electric vehicles continue charging forwards.

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13 minutes ago, notsonice said:

https://www.weforum.org/

More electric cars are now sold every week than in the whole of 2012

 
More electric cars are now sold per week than in all of 2012
18 Feb 2022
  1. Johnny Wood Writer, Formative Content
 

 

 
 
Electricity
Xh5l0zdNHuXAdsxpLgYgSKBOX-Jd7K4XeqNrxM6SHn8.png
 
  • The global electric car market is growing exponentially.
  • Worldwide sales hit 6.6 million in 2021, almost doubling from the previous year.
  • But carmakers must overcome challenges such as rising material costs and potential shortages of microchips to maintain market growth.

Think back a decade. In 2012, the nascent electric vehicle (EV) market was starting to gain momentum, with global sales of 130,000 cars. Today, that number of electric cars is sold every week.

While the market for petrol and diesel cars has been dampened by the economic fallout from COVID-19, demand for EVs continues to increase.

Factors like climate change and commitments to reach net-zero are helping drive the global shift to emissions-free motoring.

What's the World Economic Forum doing about the transition to clean energy?

Moving to clean energy is key to combating climate change, yet in the past five years, the energy transition has stagnated.

Energy consumption and production contribute to two-thirds of global emissions, and 81% of the global energy system is still based on fossil fuels, the same percentage as 30 years ago. Plus, improvements in the energy intensity of the global economy (the amount of energy used per unit of economic activity) are slowing. In 2018 energy intensity improved by 1.2%, the slowest rate since 2010.

Effective policies, private-sector action and public-private cooperation are needed to create a more inclusive, sustainable, affordable and secure global energy system.

Benchmarking progress is essential to a successful transition. The World Economic Forum’s Energy Transition Index, which ranks 115 economies on how well they balance energy security and access with environmental sustainability and affordability, shows that the biggest challenge facing energy transition is the lack of readiness among the world’s largest emitters, including US, China, India and Russia. The 10 countries that score the highest in terms of readiness account for only 2.6% of global annual emissions.

zgwLF7Hp8Fat4vnN0V0Ntn9ZMehqJKXVUJTAaFYi

To future-proof the global energy system, the Forum’s Shaping the Future of Energy and Materials Platform is working on initiatives including, Systemic Efficiency, Innovation and Clean Energy and the Global Battery Alliance to encourage and enable innovative energy investments, technologies and solutions.

Additionally, the Mission Possible Platform (MPP) is working to assemble public and private partners to further the industry transition to set heavy industry and mobility sectors on the pathway towards net-zero emissions. MPP is an initiative created by the World Economic Forum and the Energy Transitions Commission.

Is your organisation interested in working with the World Economic Forum? Find out more here.

 
A chart to show global sales and sales market share of electric cars between 2010 and 2021
Sales of electric cars made up almost 9% of the global market in 2021.
Image: IEA

Global sales of electric cars reached 2.2 million in 2019. A year later, while demand for conventional cars contracted, sales of electric cars rose to 3 million, accounting for 4.1% of the world market, according to the International Energy Agency (IEA).

Market momentum has continued, with EV sales more than doubling on the year in 2021 to 6.6 million – accounting for almost 9% of the global market. All net growth in car sales around the world in that year came from electric vehicles.

There are now around 16 million electric cars on the world’s roads, according to an IEA estimate. While operating these vehicles requires the equivalent of Ireland’s total electricity generation, they prevent CO2 exhaust emissions reaching the atmosphere – think of it as removing 16 million oil-fuelled cars from the roads.

A chart to show the monthly sales of electric cars in major car markets, comparing 2020 and 2021
China’s electric car sales in 2021 surpassed total global sales for the previous year.
Image: IEA

Total monthly car sales tend to follow an upward trend as a year unfolds. That said, 2021’s sales in the top-three global markets – China, the US and Europe – were more than 50% higher for each month of the year than in 2020.

In China, the world’s fastest-growing EV market, sales doubled in each month of 2021 compared with a year earlier. Overall in 2021, more electric cars were sold in China than were sold throughout the world in 2020.

Europe experienced 70% market growth, selling 2.3 million fully electric and hybrid electric vehicles in 2021, while US sales more than doubled to beyond half a million vehicles.

The numbers look positive for continued market growth across major markets, but the road ahead for electric vehicles may contain some hidden bumps.

Auto manufacturers must contend with looming supply-side challenges, including increasing bulk material costs. Steel prices doubled in 2021, with aluminium prices spiking by up to 70% and copper up by more than a third.

A floor sign of available electric car charging
EV manufacturers could face supply-side shortages in the coming years.
Image: Unsplash/Michael Marais

While these additional costs impacted both conventional and electric vehicle production, EVs also faced specific price challenges associated with battery manufacture, including year-on-year increases for essential materials like lithium carbon (up by 150%), graphite (up by 15%) and nickel (up by 25%). And while there may be a lag before material price hikes hit consumers, the trend is a cause for concern when it comes to market growth.

Another challenge facing the industry is a global shortage of microchips, which has slowed and at times halted production of cars and other products. It’s a shortage that particularly impacts EVs, as their electronic components mean they need 2.3 times more microchips than cars with an internal combustion engine.

Compounding the woes of EV manufacturers, in-demand critical minerals such as lithium and cobalt could be in short supply as early as 2025 unless significant new investment is channelled into expanding production capacity, the IEA says.

Winning the confidence of consumers has been a key part of boosting EV adoption worldwide. The challenge now for car manufacturers and policymakers will be getting new capacity set up to resolve looming supply disruptions, if they are to ensure that electric vehicles continue charging forwards.

EVs are less than 1% of the vehicle market value. That will not change going forward.

Keep filling up your gas tank and driving your fossil fuel car. That makes my day, as they say in California.

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the death of coal brought to you with Solar Panels from Sleepy Joe

Biden invokes Defense Production Act to boost solar panel manufacturing

The president is also issuing a two-year tariff exemption on solar panel imports from several Southeast Asian nations.
Image: Joe Biden

President Joe Biden speaks during an event to award the Public Safety Officer Medals of Valor in the East Room of the White House, on May 16, 2022.Al Drago / Bloomberg via Getty Images

 
 
 

June 6, 2022, 8:59 AM MDT / Updated June 6, 2022, 9:09 AM MDT

 

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden is using his executive powers Monday to boost the domestic production of solar panels and their parts and will issue a 24-month tariff exemption on imports of the products from several countries.

The White House said Biden will authorize the use of the Defense Production Act to accelerate manufacturing of solar panels in the United States as a way to strengthen the administration's efforts to shift the country toward clean energy.

 

The move will allow the Department of Energy to "rapidly expand" U.S. manufacturing of solar panel parts, power grid infrastructure such as transformers, heat pumps, building insulation and other equipment, the White House said in a news release.

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Biden is also directing that "master supply agreements" are used "to increase the speed and efficiency with which domestic clean electricity providers can sell their products to the U.S. government," the release said.

In addition, Biden is using his executive authority to temporarily allow tariff-free solar panel imports from Cambodia, Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam.

“President Biden has invoked the Defense Production Act so that the U.S. can take ownership of its clean energy independence,” Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said in a statement. “For too long the nation’s clean energy supply chain has been over-reliant on foreign sources and adversarial nations."

 

Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo said in a statement that imported solar panels are "an important component to addressing the immediate demands of bringing additional energy sources online and addressing the energy needs of the American people."

 

"As droughts cripple the West and Russia’s unwarranted invasion of Ukraine have placed increasing strains on America’s energy market, preventing disruptions to the electric power system, diversifying our energy sources and responding to the climate crisis have never been more urgent, and solar energy is an essential component of meeting those needs," she said.

The exemption for the four countries comes after a Commerce Department investigation into whether solar panels imported from those nations were circumventing tariffs on goods made in China, according to Reuters.

"I remain committed to upholding our trade laws and ensuring American workers have a chance to compete on a level playing field," Raimondo said.

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5 minutes ago, notsonice said:

the death of coal brought to you with Solar Panels from Sleepy Joe

Biden invokes Defense Production Act to boost solar panel manufacturing

The president is also issuing a two-year tariff exemption on solar panel imports from several Southeast Asian nations.
Image: Joe Biden

President Joe Biden speaks during an event to award the Public Safety Officer Medals of Valor in the East Room of the White House, on May 16, 2022.Al Drago / Bloomberg via Getty Images

 
 
 

June 6, 2022, 8:59 AM MDT / Updated June 6, 2022, 9:09 AM MDT

 

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden is using his executive powers Monday to boost the domestic production of solar panels and their parts and will issue a 24-month tariff exemption on imports of the products from several countries.

The White House said Biden will authorize the use of the Defense Production Act to accelerate manufacturing of solar panels in the United States as a way to strengthen the administration's efforts to shift the country toward clean energy.

 

The move will allow the Department of Energy to "rapidly expand" U.S. manufacturing of solar panel parts, power grid infrastructure such as transformers, heat pumps, building insulation and other equipment, the White House said in a news release.

1645158491935_now_tonight_jjo_army_climate_220217_1920x1080-8ng1li.jpg
 
 

Biden is also directing that "master supply agreements" are used "to increase the speed and efficiency with which domestic clean electricity providers can sell their products to the U.S. government," the release said.

In addition, Biden is using his executive authority to temporarily allow tariff-free solar panel imports from Cambodia, Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam.

“President Biden has invoked the Defense Production Act so that the U.S. can take ownership of its clean energy independence,” Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said in a statement. “For too long the nation’s clean energy supply chain has been over-reliant on foreign sources and adversarial nations."

 

Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo said in a statement that imported solar panels are "an important component to addressing the immediate demands of bringing additional energy sources online and addressing the energy needs of the American people."

 

"As droughts cripple the West and Russia’s unwarranted invasion of Ukraine have placed increasing strains on America’s energy market, preventing disruptions to the electric power system, diversifying our energy sources and responding to the climate crisis have never been more urgent, and solar energy is an essential component of meeting those needs," she said.

The exemption for the four countries comes after a Commerce Department investigation into whether solar panels imported from those nations were circumventing tariffs on goods made in China, according to Reuters.

"I remain committed to upholding our trade laws and ensuring American workers have a chance to compete on a level playing field," Raimondo said.

Plans, plans.....plans always change.

What doesn't change is that fossil fuel vehicle in your driveway.

You probably drive one of those old dirty fossil fuel vehicles that emits a ton of stuff.

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5 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

Plans, plans.....plans always change.

What doesn't change is that fossil fuel vehicle in your driveway.

The increase in coal use you keep yammering about is also just a plan. A plan that is changing.

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6 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

The increase in coal use you keep yammering about is also just a plan. A plan that is changing.

There are plans and there are plans....the ones that make market sense actually happen.

What the reality is relates to that fossil fuel car you drive every day, emitting a ton of stuff.

Requires a public acknowledgment and apology for those who believe that fossil fuel cars are a problem.

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Just now, Ecocharger said:

There are plans and there are plans....the ones that make market sense actually happen.

Yep, that is why India is going to replace as much expensive coal as they can with low cost renewables.

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6 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Yep, that is why India is going to replace as much expensive coal as they can with low cost renewables.

The plans call for a huge ramp up of coal production, in line with the need for energy security.

Aided and abetted by your own choice of driving vehicle, that fossil fuel car you drive every day, emitting a ton of material.

You should offer an apology to those who believe that is a problem, Jay. Those are very sensitive eco people.

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