GREEN NEW DEAL = BLIZZARD OF LIES

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12 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

Oil prices have nowhere to go but up. Last time I looked, the highways and streets were full of fossil fuel vehicles.

It certainly may be true oil prices may stay high for decades. But most of the volume for transportation will be gone. The sky’s will finally go back to blue. 

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12 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Don't you just hate how I keep proving you wrong. Correcting all your mistakes is nearly a full time job.

Proving me wrong in which respect? Opinions are just that. Mistakes, not a mistake if it can be fixed. Yer Old and Slow learner. You can drive a non-petrol car but you don't. Are ya so old the Math doesn't compute to trade in your car for your bragging car Tesla? No, you spew out a bunch of graphs that are irrelevant to the topic "GREEN NEW DEAL = BLIZZARD OF LIES" with math that economics majors laugh at. I've run a successful business 32 years and here in the Mid-west even diesel at 6.00 a gallon still is king over electric vehicles. I have small fleet of one ton Fords with 16k gv trailers. I am not lacking work and the excess price on diesel which if wasn't being shipped to EU at a rate of over 1mmb per day wouldn't get passed on to consumer. In the end the consumer gets the shaft as I personally am not paying the extra 3.25$ a gallon. My materials have risen now 3 times and guess who is paying that new 35% more cost in materials??? Not me. I provide a service and you provide a-lot of hot air....California should tax you extra for just being plumb dumb. But Californians love polluted streets with junkies and drunks. No.1 socialist state. Enjoy paying your taxes for all the social programs. Go ahead and copy/paste more graphs and charts, it makes you feel superior to everyone else on here 'cept yer bedmate Notsonice.

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7 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

It isn't so! Numbers allow you to see reality. and show everyone how clueless fools like you are.

Storage makes renewables reliable and dispatchable but you just can't comprehend that can you?

Europe’s grid-scale energy storage capacity will expand 20-fold by 2031

Ambitious European net zero targets, cutting dependency on Russian fossil fuel, regulatory change and growing investor confidence will unlock 42 GW of vital energy storage capacity https://www.woodmac.com/news/opinion/europes-grid-scale-energy-storage-capacity-will-expand-20-fold-by-2031/

20GWh pumped hydro energy storage plant starting operations in Switzerland https://www.energy-storage.news/20gwh-pumped-hydro-energy-storage-plant-starting-operations-in-switzerland/

Swedish firms ink deal to make green hydrogen with wind power https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/12/sweden_green_hydrogen/

Quinbrook to build 460MWh BESS at former coal plant site in Wales, UK

Vattenfall starts filling up 200MW thermal storage tower in Berlin

Construction starts on 200MWh Fluence BESS projects in Lithuania for 2022 completion

 

Your numbers are meaningless, a false construct. Below would be stark reality, yet if the EU chooses this path of chaos so be it. There are two dynamics in life that are terribly difficult to overcome. Poverty&Ignorance. 

The Netherlands Calls On Large Energy Users To Reduce Consumption

The Netherlands said on Monday that large energy consumers would need to cut back on their usage beginning at the start of next year, Reuters has reported.

The restrictions are coming as part of the government’s desire to scale back CO2 emissions as well as reduce its reliance on Russian energy products.

Under the new rule, large energy consumers will be forced to invest in all possible energy savings measures, provided the investment can be recouped within a five-year span. The government will fund regulations to aid in the enforcement of such a plan.

 

 

By Julianne Geiger - Jul 04, 2022, 6:30 PM CDT

Edited July 5, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open

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3 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Your numbers are meaningless, a false construct. Below would be stark reality, yet if the EU chooses this path of chaos so be it. There are two dynamics in life that are terribly difficult to overcome. Poverty&Ignorance. 

The Netherlands Calls On Large Energy Users To Reduce Consumption

The Netherlands said on Monday that large energy consumers would need to cut back on their usage beginning at the start of next year, Reuters has reported.

The restrictions are coming as part of the government’s desire to scale back CO2 emissions as well as reduce its reliance on Russian energy products.

Under the new rule, large energy consumers will be forced to invest in all possible energy savings measures, provided the investment can be recouped within a five-year span. The government will fund regulations to aid in the enforcement of such a plan.

 

 

By Julianne Geiger - Jul 04, 2022, 6:30 PM CDT

Which is due to a war. But you can't figure that out either.  It also doesn't mean any real decrease to output. Your post clearly says "provided the investment can be recouped within a five-year span." That means in year 6 it starts making them money. But then that is what real numbers and economics do for you.

Edited July 5, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

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14 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Which is due to a war. But you can't figure that out either.  It also doesn't mean any real decrease to output. Your post clearly says "provided the investment can be recouped within a five-year span." That means in year 6 it starts making them money. But then that is what real numbers and economics do for you.

Do please recall the failure correctly, be it Putin or mother nature both have been proven to be unpredictable since their beginning. Only mindless children would place the trust in such area's..

Analysis: Weak winds worsened Europe's power crunch; utilities need better storage

OSLO/COPENHAGEN, Dec 22 (Reuters) - Wind speeds were milder than usual in Europe this year, so windmills across the bloc generated less electricity which worsened a crunch that sent power prices to record highs as utilities had to buy more coal and scarce, costly, natural gas.

Reporting by Nora Buli in Oslo and Stine Jacobsen in Copenhagen; Editing by Susanna Twidale, Simon Webb and David Gregorio

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/weak-winds-worsened-europes-power-crunch-utilities-need-better-storage-2021-12-22/

Edited July 5, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open

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1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Do please recall the failure correctly, be it Putin or mother nature both have been proven to be unpredictable since their beginning. Only mindless children would place the trust in such area's..

 utilities need better storage

OSLO/COPENHAGEN, Dec 22 (Reuters) - Wind speeds were milder than usual in Europe this year, so windmills across the bloc generated less electricity which worsened a crunch that sent power prices to record highs as utilities had to buy more coal and scarce, costly, natural gas.

Reporting by Nora Buli in Oslo and Stine Jacobsen in Copenhagen; Editing by Susanna Twidale, Simon Webb and David Gregorio

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/weak-winds-worsened-europes-power-crunch-utilities-need-better-storage-2021-12-22/

And I just gave you a long list of storage projects with many, many more to come. But again that is beyond your comprehension.

Here are some more

Mitsubishi Power enters European storage market with 371MWh BESS projects in Ireland

June 23, 2022

Mitsubishi Power is entering the European energy storage market with four BESS projects totalling 371MWh for ION Renewables in Ireland.

 

German EV industry opens up ‘second use’ battery market for energy storage

June 14, 2022

German battery energy storage system (BESS) project developer Tricera Energy has built its business using ‘second use’ battery modules from the country’s automotive sector, its COO told Energy-Storage.news.

 

Sand Battery Trials Begin In Finland

Polar Night Energy in Finland is touting its new sand battery technology while NREL is testing a similar concept.

The sand battery is the idea of two Finnish engineers, Markku Ylönen and Tommi Eronen. It is simplicity itself. Make a really big pile of sand. Heat it with excess renewable electricity to around 500º C (932º F), then use that heat later to heat homes, factories, even swimming pools. They say the sand can stay hot for 3 months or more. Together they founded Polar Night Energy, which has completed its first installation — 100 tons of sand inside what looks very much like a silo — in the town of Kankaanpää.

 

Edited July 5, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

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South Africa: 300MW liquid metal battery storage deal

US startup Ambri has received a customer order in South Africa for a 300MW/1,400MWh energy storage system based on its proprietary liquid metal battery technology.

The company touts its battery as being low-cost, durable and safe as well as suitable for large-scale and long-duration energy storage applications.

Ambri has signed the deal with South African renewable energy power producer and retailer, Earth & Wind to deploy the tech at a combined wind and solar PV generation plant in the country’s Eastern Cape region.

Ambri’s battery cells use liquid calcium alloy anodes with a molten salt electrolyte and solid antimony particles in the cathodes. These are arranged into stainless steel containers and integrated as DC-coupled containerised battery energy storage systems (BESS).

Ambri battery cells don't use anything that is even remotely rare.

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4 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

South Africa: 300MW liquid metal battery storage deal

US startup Ambri has received a customer order in South Africa for a 300MW/1,400MWh energy storage system based on its proprietary liquid metal battery technology.

The company touts its battery as being low-cost, durable and safe as well as suitable for large-scale and long-duration energy storage applications.

Ambri has signed the deal with South African renewable energy power producer and retailer, Earth & Wind to deploy the tech at a combined wind and solar PV generation plant in the country’s Eastern Cape region.

Ambri’s battery cells use liquid calcium alloy anodes with a molten salt electrolyte and solid antimony particles in the cathodes. These are arranged into stainless steel containers and integrated as DC-coupled containerised battery energy storage systems (BESS).

Ambri battery cells don't use anything that is even remotely rare.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-61996520

Climate change: 'Sand battery' could solve green energy's big problem

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Tesla Wins American-Made Index With 4 Of 10 Most American-Made Cars

A new study conducted by Cars.com shows that Tesla represents four out of the 10 most American-made cars, as detailed in a report from Business Insider. Of Tesla’s cars on the list, the Model Y landed the first spot on the publication’s 2022 American-Made Index, with the Model 3 ranking second. In fifth and sixth place were the Model S and Model X, only falling behind the Lincoln Corsair and the Honda Passport.

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On 7/3/2022 at 11:28 AM, Blackbag99 said:

Sorry once again I disagree.

I would be a coal buyer all day long, not because I think it has a future, but because it has none.

And when you get to solar, Perovskite crystals means 70% more output for 30% less money. The reality is that fossil fuels have no future. Not that there isn't a ship ton to made before that happens. It will fund my retirement until I die.

Apparently wildlife has no future in your fantasy retirement plan.

 

While touted as green technology, alternative energy sources are not always Earth friendly. Production of solar panels, for example, results in pollution emitted into the environment. More widely known are the adverse impacts of wind and solar farms on animals, particularly birds. Birds can be killed when they try to fly through the rotating blades of wind turbines and they can die from overheating when they fly over large solar farms. They can also die due to displacement from their natural environment. In this new effort, the researchers veered from simply counting the number of birds that are killed by alternative power sources and looked instead to gauge the impact of the combined toll that alternative power plants are taking on populations of vulnerable bird species in California.

 

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On 7/5/2022 at 1:19 AM, Jay McKinsey said:

It isn't so! Numbers allow you to see reality. and show everyone how clueless fools like you are.

Storage makes renewables reliable and dispatchable but you just can't comprehend that can you?

Europe’s grid-scale energy storage capacity will expand 20-fold by 2031

Ambitious European net zero targets, cutting dependency on Russian fossil fuel, regulatory change and growing investor confidence will unlock 42 GW of vital energy storage capacity https://www.woodmac.com/news/opinion/europes-grid-scale-energy-storage-capacity-will-expand-20-fold-by-2031/

20GWh pumped hydro energy storage plant starting operations in Switzerland https://www.energy-storage.news/20gwh-pumped-hydro-energy-storage-plant-starting-operations-in-switzerland/

Swedish firms ink deal to make green hydrogen with wind power https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/12/sweden_green_hydrogen/

Quinbrook to build 460MWh BESS at former coal plant site in Wales, UK

Vattenfall starts filling up 200MW thermal storage tower in Berlin

Construction starts on 200MWh Fluence BESS projects in Lithuania for 2022 completion

 

It is striking that everything in CAPS makes it "on the verge of" but  in all of the compilation of "may happen, starting to, planning on, forecasting, trying, it is noted nothing is "WORKING"!

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20 minutes ago, JoMack said:

It is striking that everything in CAPS makes it "on the verge of" but  in all of the compilation of "may happen, starting to, planning on, forecasting, trying, it is noted nothing is "WORKING"!

You seem befuddled as ever. Nothing in my post was in all caps and the 20GWh pumped hydro plant went online last week.

A pumped hydro energy storage (PHES) plant with a capacity of 20GWh in Valais, Switzerland will begin operations on Friday 1 July.

Edited July 6, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

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16 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

You seem befuddled as ever. Nothing in my post was in all caps and the 20GWh pumped hydro plant went online last week.

Hmmmm, send the facts after 1 year Jay.  Then we'll see who is "befuddled"!  And who on earth uses "befuddled" anymore?

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1 hour ago, JoMack said:

Apparently wildlife has no future in your fantasy retirement plan.

 

While touted as green technology, alternative energy sources are not always Earth friendly. Production of solar panels, for example, results in pollution emitted into the environment. More widely known are the adverse impacts of wind and solar farms on animals, particularly birds. Birds can be killed when they try to fly through the rotating blades of wind turbines and they can die from overheating when they fly over large solar farms. They can also die due to displacement from their natural environment. In this new effort, the researchers veered from simply counting the number of birds that are killed by alternative power sources and looked instead to gauge the impact of the combined toll that alternative power plants are taking on populations of vulnerable bird species in California.

 

A picture is worth a thousand words

 

The wind industry’s mass slaughter of birds and bats is well-known, bu

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18 minutes ago, JoMack said:

A picture is worth a thousand words

 

The wind industry’s mass slaughter of birds and bats is well-known, bu

The article that picture is from is about a report that is obvious junk. It does not differentiate between concentrating solar which is obsolete and going away and photovoltaic panels. It attributes all the deaths from CSP equally to simple black stationary panels which it says are a problem because birds kill themselves by flying into them. That is utterly stupid. 

"Fatalities of birds predominantly are thought to be caused by collisions with ... PV panels"

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.211558

Edited July 6, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

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5 hours ago, JoMack said:

It is striking that everything in CAPS makes it "on the verge of" but  in all of the compilation of "may happen, starting to, planning on, forecasting, trying, it is noted nothing is "WORKING"!

  On 7/5/2022 at 12:19 AM, Jay McKinsey said:

It isn't so! Numbers allow you to see reality. and show everyone how clueless fools like you are.

Storage makes renewables reliable and dispatchable but you just can't comprehend that can you?

Europe’s grid-scale energy storage capacity will expand 20-fold by 2031

Ambitious European net zero targets, cutting dependency on Russian fossil fuel, regulatory change and growing investor confidence will unlock 42 GW of vital energy storage capacity https://www.woodmac.com/news/opinion/europes-grid-scale-energy-storage-capacity-will-expand-20-fold-by-2031/

20GWh pumped hydro energy storage plant starting operations in Switzerland https://www.energy-storage.news/20gwh-pumped-hydro-energy-storage-plant-starting-operations-in-switzerland/

Swedish firms ink deal to make green hydrogen with wind power https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/12/sweden_green_hydrogen/

Quinbrook to build 460MWh BESS at former coal plant site in Wales, UK

Vattenfall starts filling up 200MW thermal storage tower in Berlin

Construction starts on 200MWh Fluence BESS projects in Lithuania for 2022 completion

 

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5 hours ago, JoMack said:

 

It is striking that everything in CAPS makes it "on the verge of" but  in all of the compilation of "may happen, starting to, planning on, forecasting, trying, it is noted nothing is "WORKING"!

It is striking that everything in CAPS???????????????

 

Jethro, head back to the 3rd grade, nothing is in all caps.......................

 

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4 hours ago, JoMack said:

Hmmmm, send the facts after 1 year Jay.  Then we'll see who is "befuddled"!  And who on earth uses "befuddled" anymore?

Dude, what are you smoking????? stay away from drugs

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On 7/5/2022 at 2:19 AM, Jay McKinsey said:

It isn't so! Numbers allow you to see reality. and show everyone how clueless fools like you are.

Storage makes renewables reliable and dispatchable but you just can't comprehend that can you?

Europe’s grid-scale energy storage capacity will expand 20-fold by 2031

Ambitious European net zero targets, cutting dependency on Russian fossil fuel, regulatory change and growing investor confidence will unlock 42 GW of vital energy storage capacity https://www.woodmac.com/news/opinion/europes-grid-scale-energy-storage-capacity-will-expand-20-fold-by-2031/

20GWh pumped hydro energy storage plant starting operations in Switzerland https://www.energy-storage.news/20gwh-pumped-hydro-energy-storage-plant-starting-operations-in-switzerland/

Swedish firms ink deal to make green hydrogen with wind power https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/12/sweden_green_hydrogen/

Quinbrook to build 460MWh BESS at former coal plant site in Wales, UK

Vattenfall starts filling up 200MW thermal storage tower in Berlin

Construction starts on 200MWh Fluence BESS projects in Lithuania for 2022 completion

 

Natural gas prices are still high and getting higher in Europe.

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21 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Which is due to a war. But you can't figure that out either.  It also doesn't mean any real decrease to output. Your post clearly says "provided the investment can be recouped within a five-year span." That means in year 6 it starts making them money. But then that is what real numbers and economics do for you.

Says the non-economist.

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13 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Tesla Wins American-Made Index With 4 Of 10 Most American-Made Cars

A new study conducted by Cars.com shows that Tesla represents four out of the 10 most American-made cars, as detailed in a report from Business Insider. Of Tesla’s cars on the list, the Model Y landed the first spot on the publication’s 2022 American-Made Index, with the Model 3 ranking second. In fifth and sixth place were the Model S and Model X, only falling behind the Lincoln Corsair and the Honda Passport.

Which means exactly what? The era of international trade has succeeded the old Smoot-Hawley nonsense...and long ago.

https://www.thebalance.com/smoot-hawley-tariff-lessons-today-4136667

Edited July 6, 2022 by Ecocharger

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3 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

Which means exactly what? The era of international trade has succeeded the old Smoot-Hawley nonsense...and long ago.

https://www.thebalance.com/smoot-hawley-tariff-lessons-today-4136667

So now you are a globalist. 

 

Under the AMI Hood

Now in its 17th year, Cars.com’s American-Made Index ranks vehicles built and bought in the U.S. for the 2022 model year. We consider five major factors:

• Location(s) of final assembly
• Percentage of U.S. and Canadian parts
• Countries of origin for all available engines
• Countries of origin for all available transmissions
• U.S. manufacturing workforce

While we don’t reveal the weighting and calculation methodology, all five factors above play a significant role, as do a number of disqualifiers explained below. Models are ranked on a 100-point scale, with heavier curb weights functioning as a tiebreaker when necessary.

Final assembly location(s)

Arguably the most important factor for index qualification is final assembly at one of 48 U.S. plants run by 16 major automaker groups and their subsidiaries that currently mass-produce light-duty passenger vehicles. (We adopt the Federal Highway Administration’s definition of light-duty vehicles, which allows for up to 10,000 pounds’ gross vehicle weight rating.)

But automakers run scores of additional plants for powertrains, castings, stampings, batteries and other vehicle parts, while third-party suppliers run additional facilities beyond that. And just because a model may be made in a U.S. assembly plant doesn’t necessarily mean it’s exclusively made here. We account for this with scoring reductions for imported volume.

Percentage of U.S. and Canadian parts

This component employs data from the American Automobile Labeling Act, which has been in effect since 1994 and requires automakers to report the overall percentage of U.S. and Canadian content, by value, for most vehicles they sell. Some automakers report a single percentage per given model sold; others break out unique percentages by powertrain, trim level or assembly location. In such cases, the AMI employs sales-weighted averages for the score.

Combining Canadian and U.S. parts content is a clear flaw of the AALA that we can’t reverse-engineer, but a clear advantage is that unlike other leading systems rating domestic automotive content — e.g., calculations for regional value content under trade agreements or delineations for import versus domestic cars in fuel-economy mandates — the AALA makes this information more legible for the public. The act requires automakers disclose this percentage on window stickers or nearby placards for most vehicles not yet sold (though we’ve come across dealerships that don’t comply).

While automakers don’t furnish U.S. versus Canadian parts content and public data don’t exist to distinguish each, we compensate by factoring in engine and transmission origins to more accurately identify two major cost-intensive components of each vehicle.

Countries of origin for all available engines

The AALA mandates automakers report the country of origin for all available engines and transmissions, but it can get complex — a nameplate might have one available engine from one country but another from a different country. As with U.S. and Canadian parts content, the AMI applies sales-weighted scoring to account for the variances.

Countries of origin for all available transmissions

The process plays out similarly among transmissions, another AALA requirement. For example, the same transmission can come from one or another country, depending on the car. Again, the index applies weighted scores as needed.

U.S. manufacturing workforce

The AALA doesn’t focus on labor value, especially in a vehicle’s final assembly. Thus, we analyze each automaker’s direct U.S. workforce involved in the manufacture of light-duty vehicles and their parts, factored against that automaker’s U.S. production footprint, to determine its workforce factor.

There are also factors accounted for to disqualify vehicles. Regardless of assembly location, these vehicles are ineligible:

• Models with a gross vehicle weight rating above 8,500 pounds — mostly full-size vans, three-quarter- and 1-ton pickup trucks, and larger commercial vehicles — which are exempt from AALA requirements.
• Models from automakers that build fewer than 1,000 cars in a given model year. Such cars are exempt from certain AALA requirements.
• Models set for imminent discontinuation, or production moving outside the U.S., without a clear U.S.-built successor.
• Models not yet on sale at the time of the study (in this case, spring 2022) even if they’re from the current model year.
• Models intended solely for government or commercial fleets.
• Models that don’t meet minimum sales or inventory thresholds. (Such thresholds cover roughly 98% of all passenger vehicle sales, so exclusions here are minimal.)
• Models for which we cannot verify sufficient information from automakers, dealership audits, Cars.com inventory and government records.

Among FHWA light-duty vehicles fully assembled in the U.S., the above disqualifications knocked 45 model-year 2022 vehicles off the list:

• Acura NSX; Buick Encore GX; Cadillac CT4; Chevrolet Bolt EV and Bolt EUV, Express, Silverado 1500 Limited and Silverado HD, and Spark; Ford Bronco Sport, E-Series, F-Series Super Duty, Police Interceptor Utility and Transit; GMC Savana, and Sierra 1500 Limited and Sierra HD; Honda Clarity Plug-in Hybrid and Insight; Jeep Grand Cherokee WK; Lucid Air; Mercedes-Benz Sprinter; Nissan NV, NV200 and Rogue Sport; Ram HD and ProMaster; Rivian R1S and R1T; Toyota Avalon and Sequoia; Volkswagen Passat
• Electric, hybrid or plug-in hybrid versions of the BMW X5; Ford Escape, Explorer, F-150, Police Interceptor Utility and Transit; Karma GS-6; Lincoln Aviator and Corsair; Toyota Tundra; and Volvo S60

This year’s study draws on data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, all major automakers and Automotive News, as well as analyses of 263,211 vehicles in Cars.com inventory and in-person audits of 423 dealer vehicles.

A given model under AMI consideration includes all variants under the root nameplate unless they’re substantially electrified or use separate platforms. For example, the GMC Yukon includes the extended-length Yukon XL, while the Ford Mustang includes the high-performance Mustang Shelby GT500 — but the Toyota Camry and Camry Hybrid have separate AMI billing, as the latter has substantial electrification. (“Substantial” is important; we judge milder hybrid applications, like the Jeep Wrangler’s eTorque V-6, as acceptable to fold into the parent vehicle’s ranking.) Under our platform rule, vehicles like the Jeep Grand Cherokee and Grand Cherokee WK are separate AMI entrants due to their different underlying architecture.

By contrast, vehicles with different root nameplates are always distinct regardless of the architecture. The Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon pickups have almost identical underpinnings, but since they have different names, they’re listed separately.

Edited July 6, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

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8 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

So now you are a globalist. 

Speaking to global issues....

Amid energy crisis, E.U. says gas, nuclear can sometimes be ‘green’

By Emily Rauhala

 and 

Quentin Ariès

 

Updated July 6, 2022 at 11:07 a.m. EDT|Published July 6, 2022 at 6:02 a.m. EDT

 

Anti-nuclear protesters take part in demonstrations in Strasbourg, France, ahead of a vote at the European Parliament on a motion to block the European Commission's plans to grant a green label to gas and nuclear investments on July 6. (Patrick Hertzog/AFP/Getty Images)

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BRUSSELS — European lawmakers voted Wednesday to move ahead with a plan to label some nuclear and natural gas power as “green” energy, a closely watched decision that could shape climate policy for years to come.

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At issue is a European Union framework known as the “E.U. taxonomy” that is intended to guide investment toward projects that are in line with the bloc’s goal to be climate neutral by 2050.

In February, weeks before Russian President Vladimir Putin launched an invasion of Ukraine, the E.U.’s executive arm presented a plan to classify some natural gas and nuclear power as “transitional” green investments in some circumstances, spurring a furious backlash.

 

Five months later, as Russia wields natural gas as a weapon and the global energy crisis intensifies, legislators at the European Parliament rejected an objection to the proposal in a 328-to-278 vote.

 

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Those who support including gas and nuclear argue that they are needed to ease the transition to renewables, especially given the impact of the war on energy prices. The European Commission welcomed the vote, saying it was “pragmatic and realistic approach” to helping countries toward climate neutrality.

Critics are not convinced. Many fear the bloc is getting weak-kneed when it comes to climate goals. There were audible “boos” when the tally was read at the seat of Parliament in Strasbourg, France. A news release from the Greenpeace environmental activist group called it “dirty politics” that would “keep more money flowing to Putin’s war chest.”

 

“This will delay a desperately needed real sustainable transition and deepen our dependency on Russian fuels,” climate and environmental activist Greta Thunberg wrote Wednesday on Twitter. “The hypocrisy is striking, but unfortunately not surprising.”

 

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The decision comes as the war in Ukraine drags into its fifth month and European leaders face skyrocketing gas prices, threats of additional Russian cutoffs and growing domestic calls for governments to do more.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen on Wednesday said the commission was drawing up emergency plans to “protect our Single Market and industrial supply chains from disruptions.” There will also be a special meeting on July 26 for ministers to discuss “winter preparedness” for the energy sector.

 

At the heart of the debate is whether gas-fired generators and nuclear power plants can ever, under any circumstances, be considered sustainable or green.

 

Before the war, the inclusion of gas was backed by member states that argued it was needed as a “bridge” while countries weaned themselves off fossil fuels and increased their renewable capacity. France and others pushed for the inclusion of nuclear power, despite strong opposition from Germany.

 

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The plan was opposed not just by environmentalists but by some E.U. advisers and even the chief executive of a group representing large investors. Critics said the European Commission’s effort to “protect private investors from greenwashing” risked turning into greenwashing on an even larger scale.

Those who oppose the inclusion of gas in the green taxonomy have expressed concern that it will incentivize investment in fossil fuels and delay the E.U.’s transition to renewable energy. There are also concerns that it will establish a precedent, leading to similar guidelines elsewhere.

 

The war in Ukraine added new complexities to the debate. The war has made Europe rethink its reliance on Russia, particularly when it comes to fossil fuels, and has amplified calls for an accelerated energy transition.

 

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The E.U. has agreed to phase out imports of coal and oil from Russia to hit the Kremlin’s war chest. But the bloc remains dependent on gas from Russia — a fact not lost on Putin, who has used this leverage to threaten and punish.

But defenders of the plan argue that the war has heightened the need for rapid investment in the infrastructure required to import gas from places other than Russia. They hope the new rules will spur a surge of investment in new gas pipelines or facilities for the import of liquefied natural gas.

“The ‘Immaculate Energy Transition’ does not exist,” Luis Garicano, a Spanish member of the European Parliament, tweeted Wednesday. “A sensible transition requires more than just renewables.”

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14 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Speaking to global issues....

Amid energy crisis, E.U. says gas, nuclear can sometimes be ‘green’

By Emily Rauhala

 and 

Quentin Ariès

 

Updated July 6, 2022 at 11:07 a.m. EDT|Published July 6, 2022 at 6:02 a.m. EDT

 

Anti-nuclear protesters take part in demonstrations in Strasbourg, France, ahead of a vote at the European Parliament on a motion to block the European Commission's plans to grant a green label to gas and nuclear investments on July 6. (Patrick Hertzog/AFP/Getty Images)

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BRUSSELS — European lawmakers voted Wednesday to move ahead with a plan to label some nuclear and natural gas power as “green” energy, a closely watched decision that could shape climate policy for years to come.

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At issue is a European Union framework known as the “E.U. taxonomy” that is intended to guide investment toward projects that are in line with the bloc’s goal to be climate neutral by 2050.

In February, weeks before Russian President Vladimir Putin launched an invasion of Ukraine, the E.U.’s executive arm presented a plan to classify some natural gas and nuclear power as “transitional” green investments in some circumstances, spurring a furious backlash.

 

Five months later, as Russia wields natural gas as a weapon and the global energy crisis intensifies, legislators at the European Parliament rejected an objection to the proposal in a 328-to-278 vote.

 

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Those who support including gas and nuclear argue that they are needed to ease the transition to renewables, especially given the impact of the war on energy prices. The European Commission welcomed the vote, saying it was “pragmatic and realistic approach” to helping countries toward climate neutrality.

Critics are not convinced. Many fear the bloc is getting weak-kneed when it comes to climate goals. There were audible “boos” when the tally was read at the seat of Parliament in Strasbourg, France. A news release from the Greenpeace environmental activist group called it “dirty politics” that would “keep more money flowing to Putin’s war chest.”

 

“This will delay a desperately needed real sustainable transition and deepen our dependency on Russian fuels,” climate and environmental activist Greta Thunberg wrote Wednesday on Twitter. “The hypocrisy is striking, but unfortunately not surprising.”

 

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The decision comes as the war in Ukraine drags into its fifth month and European leaders face skyrocketing gas prices, threats of additional Russian cutoffs and growing domestic calls for governments to do more.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen on Wednesday said the commission was drawing up emergency plans to “protect our Single Market and industrial supply chains from disruptions.” There will also be a special meeting on July 26 for ministers to discuss “winter preparedness” for the energy sector.

 

At the heart of the debate is whether gas-fired generators and nuclear power plants can ever, under any circumstances, be considered sustainable or green.

 

Before the war, the inclusion of gas was backed by member states that argued it was needed as a “bridge” while countries weaned themselves off fossil fuels and increased their renewable capacity. France and others pushed for the inclusion of nuclear power, despite strong opposition from Germany.

 

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The plan was opposed not just by environmentalists but by some E.U. advisers and even the chief executive of a group representing large investors. Critics said the European Commission’s effort to “protect private investors from greenwashing” risked turning into greenwashing on an even larger scale.

Those who oppose the inclusion of gas in the green taxonomy have expressed concern that it will incentivize investment in fossil fuels and delay the E.U.’s transition to renewable energy. There are also concerns that it will establish a precedent, leading to similar guidelines elsewhere.

 

The war in Ukraine added new complexities to the debate. The war has made Europe rethink its reliance on Russia, particularly when it comes to fossil fuels, and has amplified calls for an accelerated energy transition.

 

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The E.U. has agreed to phase out imports of coal and oil from Russia to hit the Kremlin’s war chest. But the bloc remains dependent on gas from Russia — a fact not lost on Putin, who has used this leverage to threaten and punish.

But defenders of the plan argue that the war has heightened the need for rapid investment in the infrastructure required to import gas from places other than Russia. They hope the new rules will spur a surge of investment in new gas pipelines or facilities for the import of liquefied natural gas.

“The ‘Immaculate Energy Transition’ does not exist,” Luis Garicano, a Spanish member of the European Parliament, tweeted Wednesday. “A sensible transition requires more than just renewables.”

 

Nuclear is green. The part about natural gas is just some replacement of Russian gas that won't be available because of the war. Using Russian gas was always part of the transition plan. This is a complete nothing burger.

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54 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Nuclear is green.

How Australia is turning to coal plants for its green energy future

https://www.fdiintelligence.com/content/feature/how-australia-is-turning-to-coal-plants-for-its-green-energy-future-81043

 

 

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Power companies ask EU to step in on Spanish profit claw-back plan

Spain says older emissions-free plants have received a profits boost from high power prices in the broader market that has been increased because they are exempt from paying for pollution permits needed to burn fossil fuels such as gas and coal

Now that statement overshadow's even Jay @ his best!

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/power-companies-ask-eu-step-spanish-profit-claw-back-plan-2022-06-27/

Edited July 7, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open