GREEN NEW DEAL = BLIZZARD OF LIES

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12 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

Indeed sigh!

I have never EVER disagreed that undoubtedly wind turbines cause death to predatory birds.

However my point was that compared to buildings, vehicle strikes and predatory cats the volume of deaths is miniscule. This concept and many written studies (already sent to you) you fail to recognise.

I will leave it there as youre boring me now.

Thank you for proving yet again, zero discernment.  An ostrich is the same as a chickadee in your world.  👍🤡👍.

Or in this case 80% loss of habitat = 80% drop in deaths as you have an 80% drop in births...  Pretty damned hard to count dead if they are never born to begin with......  A desert has very little life.  Wind Turbine deserts. 

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You did see that in the US bald eagles went from 70,000 prs to over 300,000 prs. The leading killer in the 60’s was poisoning. Oil, gas, chemicals and the like. Dems have been fighting greed, pollution, because they hate Dems dying. PS, my guess is bigger bird populations in spite of renewables are the results regulations that need further tightening. 

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China's wholesale sales of passenger NEVs hit record 632,000 units in Aug, CPCA data show

 Sep 8, 2022 17:44 GMT+8

In terms of wholesale sales, China's new energy passenger vehicle penetration rate reached a record 30.1 percent in August, the first time it exceeded 30 percent.

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21 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

China's wholesale sales of passenger NEVs hit record 632,000 units in Aug, CPCA data show

 Sep 8, 2022 17:44 GMT+8

In terms of wholesale sales, China's new energy passenger vehicle penetration rate reached a record 30.1 percent in August, the first time it exceeded 30 percent.

It is time for the CCP to quietly into the night. Personally I grow not only tired of your posting...but a direct threat to western civilization. 

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11 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Thank you for proving yet again, zero discernment.  An ostrich is the same as a chickadee in your world.  👍🤡👍.

Or in this case 80% loss of habitat = 80% drop in deaths as you have an 80% drop in births...  Pretty damned hard to count dead if they are never born to begin with......  A desert has very little life.  Wind Turbine deserts. 

Yawn!

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5 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

It is time for the CCP to quietly into the night. Personally I grow not only tired of your posting...but a direct threat to western civilization. 

Chinas trying to do something. 60 million in lockdown? They can tell those interested in human rights. We’re fair, we lock everybody up. 

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https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards/combinedwindandsolar

This shows the great job wind and solar do today on the ERCOT Grid today. 

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

This series of charts shows the potential if enough wind, solar and batteries would last for 12 hrs. Matching the base load at night should be the goal. 
Musk will be offering a 2hr and 4 hr battery pack from his new plant in Calif. the work is not done. Seems we need a 12 hr pack in my view. 

 

Edited September 9, 2022 by Boat

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On 9/8/2022 at 3:26 AM, notsonice said:

the death of coal sped up by Sleepy Joe

highlight of the article.....Cumulative solar installations across all market segments will nearly triple in size, growing from 129GW today to 336GW by 2027.

which means the percentage of electicity generated from solar in the US will go from 5 percent today to 15 percent in 5 years.... coupled with wind at 17  percent in five years and nuclear/hyrdo  at 20 percent. The US will be over 50% non fossil fuels in electric power generation by the end of 2027

 

 

US solar market 'will grow by 62GW in five years'

88 September 2022 05:00r 2022 05:00

The Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) will help the US solar market grow 40% over baseline projections by 2027, equal to 62GW of additional solar capacity, according to new forecasts in the US Solar Market Insight Q3 2022 report.

 

Published by Solar Energy Industries Association (SEIA) and Wood Mackenzie, the utility-scale sector will lead the solar industry’s growth over the next five years with 162GW of new capacity.

 

Cumulative solar installations across all market segments will nearly triple in size, growing from 129GW today to 336GW by 2027.

SEIA president and chief executive Abigail Ross Hopper said: "This report provides an early look at how the Inflation Reduction Act is going to transform America’s energy economy, and the forecasts show a wave of clean energy and manufacturing investments that will uplift communities nationwide.

 

"With this incredible opportunity comes a responsibility to clearly address concerns over forced labor and ensure that we have ethical supply chains throughout the world."

Despite a rosy outlook for the next five years, solar installation forecasts for 2022 have dropped to 15.7GW, the market’s lowest total since 2019, due primarily to a Commerce Department tariff investigation.

 

In June, the White House paused new solar tariffs for two years, providing some relief to the market.

 

However, the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act (UFLPA) went into effect on June 21 and has resulted in detentions of solar modules, exacerbating ongoing supply chain challenges.

The report finds that the UFLPA could limit solar deployment through 2023 due to module availability constraints, delaying the near-term effectiveness of the IRA to 2024 and beyond.

 

Principal analyst at Wood MacKenzie and lead author of the report Michelle Davis said: "The Inflation Reduction Act has given the solar industry the most long-term certainty it has ever had.

 

"Ten years of investment tax credits stands in stark contrast to the one-, two-, or five-year extensions that the industry has experienced in the last decade.

 

"It’s not an overstatement to say that the IRA will lead to a new era for the U.S. solar industry."

Demand for rooftop solar is at historic highs in the face of power outages and increasing electricity prices.

 

The residential solar segment set a record for the fifth consecutive quarter with nearly 180,000 American households installing solar in Q2.

 

The IRA will drive an additional 7.3GW of residential solar capacity over the next five years, and the new standalone storage tax credit across all market segments is expected to improve grid reliability.

Even as supply chain constraints slowed the market, solar accounted for 39% of all new electric generating capacity additions in the first half of 2022.

 

The US solar market now represents about 4.5% of the nation’s electricity mix.

That is only a marginal change, restricted to the electricity sector.

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11 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

China's wholesale sales of passenger NEVs hit record 632,000 units in Aug, CPCA data show

 Sep 8, 2022 17:44 GMT+8

In terms of wholesale sales, China's new energy passenger vehicle penetration rate reached a record 30.1 percent in August, the first time it exceeded 30 percent.

NEV means what? Some new type of fossil fuel vehicle?

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11 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

It is time for the CCP to quietly into the night. Personally I grow not only tired of your posting...but a direct threat to western civilization. 

Aww, poor EWO, your tired of my continuously showing how wrong you are. Remember last year when you predicted that EV sales would decrease in 2021? Or how about that prediction that VW was going to take over Giga Berlin?

Edited September 9, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

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44 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

NEV means what? Some new type of fossil fuel vehicle?

 I have explained this to you before.

NEV are BEV, PHEV and HFC combined. Are you smart enough to know what those acronyms stand for?

Battery electric vehicles (BEVs) continue to account for the vast majority of NEV sales, with wholesale sales of 490,000 units in August, up 92.0 percent year-on-year, standing at 77.5 percent of all NEV sales.

Edited September 9, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

[Boat + 1,323]

56 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

That is only a marginal change, restricted to the electricity sector.

You don’t know this but as electric cars increase, nat gas won’t be needed to refine  oil to diesel and gasoline. A major part of FF demand is the FF it takes to refine. Good for the air though. Bet that chaps your a##. 

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1 hour ago, Ecocharger said:

That is only a marginal change, restricted to the electricity sector.

You mean the electricity sector that fuels 30% of China, the world's largest car market by far, new car sales.

Just look at that growth, from 8% in Jan 21 to 30% in Aug 22:

Edited September 9, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

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44 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

 I have explained this to you before.

NEV are BEV, PHEV and HFC combined. Are you smart enough to know what those acronyms stand for?

Battery electric vehicles (BEVs) continue to account for the vast majority of NEV sales, with wholesale sales of 490,000 units in August, up 92.0 percent year-on-year, standing at 77.5 percent of all NEV sales.

In other words, this total includes fossil fuel vehicles.

Okay, thanks for conceding the point, old man.

I am getting tired of you conceding points, it seems to be your bad habit.

Edited September 9, 2022 by Ecocharger

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26 minutes ago, Boat said:

You don’t know this but as electric cars increase, nat gas won’t be needed to refine  oil to diesel and gasoline. A major part of FF demand is the FF it takes to refine. Good for the air though. Bet that chaps your a##. 

Good for the air? How do you figure that? We do need to clean the air, so to speak. A different kind of pollution.

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18 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

In other words, this total includes fossil fuel vehicles.

Oaky, thanks for conceding the point, old man.

I am getting tired of you conceding points, it seems to be your habit.

PHEV are only partially fossil powered and account for only 22% of NEV sales. That means 23% of China new car sales are BEV.  HFC is hydrogen, did you know that?

 

Edited September 9, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

[Ecocharger + 1,446]

A small but hopeful ray of intelligent thought on the horizon, Britain's new Prime Minister is heeding the numbers which call for a more rational energy policy and energy philosophy going forward.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Power-Shortages-Loom-Over-Europe.html

"The new UK government of Liz Truss might become one of the most pro-oil ones globally as she announced the opening up of some 130 license blocks in the North Sea as well as the controversial lifting of the ban on hydraulic fracturing in the country.

The previous government of Boris Johnson suspended licensing activities in 2020 as the UK took on ambitious climate goals, whilst the ban on fracking was introduced in 2019 amid opposition from environmentalists.

UK North Sea oil output has been declining for years and is currently at some 900,000 b/d (equivalent to 82% of its needs), in contrast to rising production in Norway’s offshore zone.

Attesting to the weak drilling activity, there were only 5 exploration wells drilled in the UK in 2021, a record low, with a similar number expected this year, according to OEUK data."

Edited September 10, 2022 by Ecocharger

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7 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

You mean the electricity sector that fuels 30% of China, the world's largest car market by far, new car sales.

Just look at that growth, from 8% in Jan 21 to 30% in Aug 22:

Again those are nothing but percentages, which are easy to attain starting from a low base.

Still hanging on to those outdated tricks, Jay?

[Ecocharger + 1,446]

19 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

China's wholesale sales of passenger NEVs hit record 632,000 units in Aug, CPCA data show

 Sep 8, 2022 17:44 GMT+8

In terms of wholesale sales, China's new energy passenger vehicle penetration rate reached a record 30.1 percent in August, the first time it exceeded 30 percent.

So 70% of Chinese new vehicle sales were fossil fuel cars, and 100% of Chinese used vehicles sales (about three times the size of the new market) were fossil fuel cars, and 100% of Chinese new truck, bus, train and ship sales were fossil fuel units, so the fossil fuel sector continued to expand at an astronomical rate in China.

Thanks for the information, Jay, very enlightening.

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1 hour ago, Ecocharger said:

So 70% of Chinese new vehicle sales were fossil fuel cars, and 100% of Chinese used vehicles sales (about three times the size of the new market) were fossil fuel cars, and 100% of Chinese new truck, bus, train and ship sales were fossil fuel units, so the fossil fuel sector continued to expand at an astronomical rate in China.

Thanks for the information, Jay, very enlightening.

Oh you and your non sense. 

The Chinese new car market is actually larger than the used car market by almost 10 million units:

And of course you can never comprehend that old cars are retired and 100% of the old cars being retired are ICE. The growth in ICE each year has to be offset by subtracting all the ICE cars that retired.

Oh and most of their trains are electric.

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12 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Oh you and your non sense. 

The Chinese new car market is actually larger than the used car market by almost 10 million units:

And of course you can never comprehend that old cars are retired and 100% of the old cars being retired are ICE. The growth in ICE each year has to be offset by subtracting all the ICE cars that retired.

Oh and most of their trains are electric.

Retirement rates are negligible. 

So, according to your source, the trade volume of used cars, which are 100% fossil fuel vehicles, presumably excluding trucks, was 3.85 million in 2010, which means presumably officially registered sales. That seems like a very tiny number for China, so I guess it does not include the vast majority of used car sales.

And in 2021 there were 17.59 officially registered used car sales, about a 457% increase in about ten years, a huge growth rate.

Usually in every other country, used vehicle sales are three times the new vehicle sales. China is probably the same.

So we have for China

70% of new car sales are fossil fuel

100% of used car sales are fossil fuel

100% of new truck sales are fossil fuel

100% of used truck sales are fossil fuels

100% of new highway bus sales are fossil fuel

100% of used highway bus sales are fossil fuel

100% of new freight train engine sales are fossil fuel

100% of used freight train engine sales are fossil fuel

100% of new work vehicle sales are fossil fuel

100% of used work vehicle sales are fossil fuel

100% of new airplane sales are fossil fuel

100% of used airplane sales are fossil fuel

Altogether fossil fuel transportation by value would be well over 99% of the sales markets.

Electric is miniscule and insignificant.

Edited September 10, 2022 by Ecocharger

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Here is where the rubber meets the road. The Green revolution and climate mania has brought about an energy strangulation of the European economies and a drastic reduction in the standard of living for the average consumer.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/EU-Ministers-Call-For-10-Cut-In-Energy-Consumption.html

"EU energy ministers are calling for a 10% reduction in electricity consumption. 

According to the WSJ, the electricity rationing plan appears to have support from many member states. 

Today’s emergency meeting is just the latest of many efforts the EU has made to quash economic upheaval due to industry shutdowns, and to prevent protests due to skyrocketing energy prices. "

Edited September 10, 2022 by Ecocharger

[Boat + 1,323]

So when OPEC and Russia cut and interrupt fossile fuels o’l Eco believes renewables are at fault. Lol Yes you can still read fake news on a daily basis. Renewables are the one thing OPEC and Russia have not attacked. Here in America nat gas didn’t need to be cut. Lack of maintenance and weatherization cut supplies and cost hundreds of lives and 10’s of billions. Causing a rush in renewable spending ol eco kinda missed. 

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On 9/10/2022 at 8:01 AM, Ecocharger said:

Here is where the rubber meets the road. The Green revolution and climate mania has brought about an energy strangulation of the European economies and a drastic reduction in the standard of living for the average consumer.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/EU-Ministers-Call-For-10-Cut-In-Energy-Consumption.html

"EU energy ministers are calling for a 10% reduction in electricity consumption. 

I bet a lot of people would have higher quality of life if they used less electricity. 

Put down your phone, turn off Netflix, go outside, exercise, actually interact with others.

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10 hours ago, Boat said:

So when OPEC and Russia cut and interrupt fossile fuels o’l Eco believes renewables are at fault. Lol Yes you can still read fake news on a daily basis. Renewables are the one thing OPEC and Russia have not attacked. Here in America nat gas didn’t need to be cut. Lack of maintenance and weatherization cut supplies and cost hundreds of lives and 10’s of billions. Causing a rush in renewable spending ol eco kinda missed. 

The attack on fossil fuels leaves any country vulnerable to energy shortages, it does not take a genius to understand that.

I guess you kinda missed that.

Edited September 11, 2022 by Ecocharger