GREEN NEW DEAL = BLIZZARD OF LIES

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4 hours ago, notsonice said:

China imports of coal, the world's biggest importer, are estimated falling to  182 million tonnes in 2022 and 176 million tonnes in 2023, from 246 million tonnes in 2021

Do you get excited over a falling in coal consumption in China in 2022 compared to 2021?

 

 

Not only have China’s coal imports from Russia risen in recent months but so have the country’s production levels. According to data from the National Bureau of Statistics, China mined 2.19 billion tonnes of coal from January to June, an increase of 11 percent year on year. 

Falling?? Re-read plz.

Edited September 16, 2022 by Old-Ruffneck

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12 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

How is this new technology on the rise if they aren't building any new coal plants?

Conversion technology...you never heard of that?

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Just now, Ecocharger said:

Conversion technology...you never heard of that?

No conversions are happening.

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12 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Global Coal-Fired Power Generation Falls as Prices Soar and China Slows

Global coal-fired power generation fell by 1.2% during the first half of 2022 from a year earlier, according to an analysis of energy consumption data, as a sharp economic slowdown in China and a surge in global coal prices after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine crimped demand.

Meanwhile, power generation from renewable sources increased 17% year-over-year in the first half, led by capacity increases in the U.S. and China, according to a report published Thursday by S&P Global Commodity Insights, a market research firm.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/global-coal-fired-power-generation-falls-as-prices-soar-and-china-slows-11662656704

 

 

Do you bother to read your own stuff, Jay? I guess not.

"...the biggest factor in lower coal-fired power generation so far this year was the marked slowdown in economic growth in the world's top consumer of coal, China, which accounts for more than half of global coal consumption. Due to renewed COVID-related lockdowns in the spring of 2022 and the crisis in the real estate sector, Chinese coal-fired power generation dropped in the first half of 2022 by 1.2 percent compared to the same period of 2021, per S&P Global Commodity Insights."

Nothing to do with renewables, that is pure hogwash.

Here is the big picture, for those who have trouble reading large print articles.

"In a report by the International Energy Agency (IEA), published last month, the organisation warned that global coal demand could once again hit an all-time high, with E.U. consumption rising by an estimated 7 percent, adding to a 14 percent increase in 2021. "

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8 hours ago, notsonice said:

here is the real reality ........

Coal is not ramping up.....  ??? deadcat bounces will not serve you well. The cat is still dead

with E.U. consumption rising by an estimated 7 percent, adding to a 14 percent increase in 2021..???????

 

and the reality

form the article posted below....................In 2021 compared with 2018 (in Europe) , hard coal and brown coal (mostly lignite) consumption decreased by 27% and 25.5%, respectively.

Anything looks good compared to 2020...remember  2020??? the year your master lead the world into an whopper of a recession (some would call 2020 a depression year)

 

now add up your so called ramping up of  2022 and compare it to 2018 and you still have a decrease in consumption in Europe...Like I said a deadcat bounce........What does 7 percent added onto 57.2 million tonnes get you???? did it make up for the 2020 collapse?????

 

 

Coal production and consumption see rebound in 2021 

PrintCoal production and consumption see rebound in 2021

02/05/2022

 

In 2021, EU coal production and consumption saw an increase compared with 2020, experiencing a rebound following the low 2020 and 2019 values, which were partially caused by the measures related to the COVID-19 pandemic. However, production and consumption were still lower than the pre-pandemic 2018 figures. This affected both hard coal and brown coal.

Following a consistent decline since 1990, the decrease in the consumption of both types of coal accelerated in 2019 and continued in 2020. In 2021 compared with 2018, hard coal and brown coal (mostly lignite) consumption decreased by 27% and 25.5%, respectively. However, the full extent of the pandemic’s influence on coal production and consumption will become clearer in the following years.

Hard coal: EU production fell by more than three quarters since 1990

In 2021, the EU produced 57 million tonnes of hard coal (-79% compared with 1990). The number of Member States producing hard coal has also decreased since then, from 13 in 1990 to only 2 in 2021: Poland (96% of the total EU production) and Czechia (4%).

 

 

Source datasets: nrg_cb_sff and nrg_cb_sffm

 

Similarly, the consumption of hard coal has consistently decreased since 1990, with an accelerated decrease since 2019. In 2021, the EU consumption of hard coal stood at 160 million tonnes (-59% compared with 1990). The reasons behind lower consumption of hard coal are the energy shift towards natural gas and renewables for electricity production, as well as a decrease in the production of coke oven coke, used in various industries such as for the production of iron and steel.

However, hard coal production experienced a larger decrease than the consumption, leading to an increase in hard coal import dependency, consistently above 50% in the 2010s. Over this last decade, Russia was the largest supplier of hard coal to the EU, and its share in EU hard coal imports increased while the share for other suppliers decreased or stayed stable. In 2020, the latest year with data available, Russia accounted for 56% of hard coal imports, followed by the United States (17%) and Australia (15%).

Brown coal: the decline of lignite in the EU continues

Similarly to hard coal, the continuous decrease of brown coal consumption has accelerated from 2019 onwards. In 2021, the EU consumption of brown coal, mostly lignite, is estimated at 277 million tonnes (-60% compared with 1990). The vast majority of brown coal in the EU is used for electricity production: during the 21st century, more than 90% of brown coal was used for this purpose.

 

 

 Source datasets: nrg_cb_sff and nrg_cb_sffm

 

97% of the total brown coal consumption in the EU is taken up by 6 countries: Germany (46%), Poland (19%), Czechia (11%), Bulgaria (10%), Romania (6%) and Greece (5%). 

The production and consumption figures for brown coal are very similar, as it is almost always consumed in the production countries. Thus, there is very little trade in brown coal and the EU’s import dependency for it is insignificant.

 

 

Methodological notes: 

• The 2021 figures are based on cumulated monthly data.

 

 

 

 

Out of date.

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Here is where the rubber meets the road, the rare materials needed for EVs is being squeezed at the source.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Who-Pays-The-Price-For-Americas-Aggressive-Climate-Policies.html

"In the Democratic Republic of Congo, hope for a better life dissolves as well-funded Ugandan-led extremist groups force children as young as six into cobalt mines."

Edited September 16, 2022 by Ecocharger

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16 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

"In the Democratic Republic of Congo, hope for a better life dissolves as well-funded Ugandan-led extremist groups force children as young as six into cobalt mines."

 

What a load of sensationalist BS.

"Electric vehicles make children work in cobalt mines!"

Exploitation long predates EVs.

Edited September 16, 2022 by TailingsPond

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On 9/9/2022 at 9:10 AM, Jay McKinsey said:

Aww, poor EWO, your tired of my continuously showing how wrong you are. Remember last year when you predicted that EV sales would decrease in 2021? Or how about that prediction that VW was going to take over Giga Berlin?

Ford CEO Farley explains why the brand isn't going all-electric like GM

Ford CEO says the future of the auto industry isn't "monolithic"

Your franchise agreements are collapsing, dealer agreements are about to take center stage.

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7 hours ago, Old-Ruffneck said:

Not only have China’s coal imports from Russia risen in recent months but so have the country’s production levels. According to data from the National Bureau of Statistics, China mined 2.19 billion tonnes of coal from January to June, an increase of 11 percent year on year. 

Falling?? Re-read plz.

yep a rise in domestic production (of crappy coal) Imported coal has a much higher BTU content than Chinas typically unwashed coal.....and a dramatic drop in imports plus a drop of 2 percent in electricity production....

Plus the price of steel is crashing as the world price of steel plummets off a cliff. China steel is taking a dump

 Cement production has crashed

Enjoy the next few months in Coal , the China recession is getting worse

 

China is on a collision course in coal consumption

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3 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Ford CEO Farley explains why the brand isn't going all-electric like GM

Ford CEO says the future of the auto industry isn't "monolithic"

Your franchise agreements are collapsing, dealer agreements are about to take center stage.

You are the one who said this couldn't happen.

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4 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

You are the one who said this couldn't happen.

Im the one who stated the dealer body would sue and win...if they attempted such a grandiose departure. The Green movement has already been capped with partial implementation...Ford is about to blunder once again...

Ford gives dealers an ultimatum on EV sales

Ford has given dealers in its 3,000-strong network an ultimatum and a deadline: If they want to sell EVs, they’ll need to invest their own money into the endeavor, meet other selling standards and add fast charging at their locations.

Dealers will have until October 31 to decide to buy in. If they do, they’ll be authorized to get in on Ford’s Model e business starting January 2024. Those who don’t can stick with Ford Blue, the automaker’s internal combustion engine unit.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/14/ford-gives-dealers-an-ultimatum-on-ev-sales/

Edited September 17, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open

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9 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Im the one who stated the dealer body would sue and win...if they attempted such a grandiose departure. The Green movement has already been capped with partial implementation...Ford is about to blunder once again...

Ford gives dealers an ultimatum on EV sales

Ford has given dealers in its 3,000-strong network an ultimatum and a deadline: If they want to sell EVs, they’ll need to invest their own money into the endeavor, meet other selling standards and add fast charging at their locations.

Dealers will have until October 31 to decide to buy in. If they do, they’ll be authorized to get in on Ford’s Model e business starting January 2024. Those who don’t can stick with Ford Blue, the automaker’s internal combustion engine unit.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/14/ford-gives-dealers-an-ultimatum-on-ev-sales/

Yes you said the dealers would sue and win and  yet they aren't suing and they aren't winning. All you have done is point out another thing you were wrong about.

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The greenest vehicle show case.............. animal carts.... e.g. horse, cow, etc.

 

 

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On 9/16/2022 at 2:06 AM, Blackbag99 said:

The only problem is that all assets quoted about the sustainablity of battery technology is last decades tech. No one needs cobalt, Lithium is an abundant metal!

https://justthenews.com/world/lithium-prices-skyrocket-posing-headache-electric-vehicle-manufacturers

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Oil and coal may recover to previous levels or they may not. One thing for sure if new consumptions levels are reached, don’t expect big gains. It won’t take long for renewables and nat gas to fill the void caused by Putin. The electric car will kill transportation oil consumption along with oil producers influence in politics. Coal will stay on a reduced plateau then return to stranded assets. This transition has been a couple decades in the making but is unstoppable. 

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On 9/16/2022 at 12:30 PM, TailingsPond said:

What a load of sensationalist BS.

"Electric vehicles make children work in cobalt mines!"

Exploitation long predates EVs.

This creates problems for cobalt sources, squeezes EV prices upwards, which means EVs are not the answer for universal personal transportation.

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On 9/16/2022 at 3:41 PM, notsonice said:

yep a rise in domestic production (of crappy coal) Imported coal has a much higher BTU content than Chinas typically unwashed coal.....and a dramatic drop in imports plus a drop of 2 percent in electricity production....

Plus the price of steel is crashing as the world price of steel plummets off a cliff. China steel is taking a dump

 Cement production has crashed

Enjoy the next few months in Coal , the China recession is getting worse

 

China is on a collision course in coal consumption

Coal production plans show increase in coal.

Edited September 18, 2022 by Ecocharger

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4 hours ago, Boat said:

Oil and coal may recover to previous levels or they may not. One thing for sure if new consumptions levels are reached, don’t expect big gains. It won’t take long for renewables and nat gas to fill the void caused by Putin. The electric car will kill transportation oil consumption along with oil producers influence in politics. Coal will stay on a reduced plateau then return to stranded assets. This transition has been a couple decades in the making but is unstoppable. 

No, you are talking Green revolution and government intervention which is related to a weak science. That science weakness is the Achilles heel.

Before long, this whole climate panic will be placed in proper perspective, and the anti-CO2 mania will be reduced to nothing but a bad dream. Reality will prevail.

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On 9/17/2022 at 11:17 AM, specinho said:

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The greenest vehicle show case.............. animal carts.... e.g. horse, cow, etc.

 

 

 

you still holding onto your horse drawn world? I bet you are doing the same with your coal powered steam engine

 

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On 9/18/2022 at 10:02 AM, Ecocharger said:

Coal production plans show increase in coal.

Peak coal happened in 2013/2014

yet you babble on without posting real numbers on how coal is ramping up. 

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the death of coal one solar panel at a time..........

 

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2022/09/16/solar-power-station-set-becker-minnesota-regulators-approve

Minnesota regulators OK building massive solar power station near Becker

Xcel says it expects the Sherco Solar project to be fully operational by late 2025

Mathew Holding Eagle III

September 16, 2022 11:11 AM

 

The Sherco Solar project will be built adjacent to the existing Sherco coal-fired power plant. All three units of the coal plant are scheduled to be retired by 2030.

Kirsti Marohn | MPR News file

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State regulators have signed off on Xcel Energy’s plan to start construction on the largest solar-energy project in the Upper Midwest.

The Minnesota Public Utilities Commission reported that, once completed, the Sherco Solar project near Becker, northwest of the Twin Cities, is expected to cut carbon emissions by nearly 300,000 tons annually as the electricity it produces replaces some of the power generated by the Sherco coal-fired plant that's set to close by 2030.

The cost of the solar project is estimated at $575 million. Regulators say the project will generate approximately $240 million for the local economy over its lifetime. The Public Utilities Commission gave final approval for the plan Thursday.

Xcel says it expects the Sherco Solar project to be fully operational by late 2025. When finished it will produce 460 megawatts of power.

In a statement, Xcel said the project is vital to its plan to transition power generation from coal and have all its electricity production be carbon-free by 2050.

In approving the solar project Thursday, the commission noted broad support for the plan from surrounding communities and deemed it a cost-effective energy investment.

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the additional output by renewables equivelent to 320 million tonnes  coal  China by 2025 from 2020 ........all from renewables

Renewables in China

......from 680Mtce

in 2020 to 1,000Mtce

in 2025

 

The Death of Coal one solar panel at a time.........

 

China released its 14th five-year plan (FYP) for renewable energy on 1 June, outlining the country’s renewable energy roadmap for the five years 2021-2025.

This is the first sub-sector plan issued since the 14FYP for a modern energy system, published earlier this year. Among all the documents that China has issued under the so-called “1+N” policy framework for enforcing its climate pledges, the energy plan and its sub-sector plan on renewable energy might be the most fundamental to China’s decarbonisation.

China’s climate pledge (its “nationally determined contribution”, or NDC) aimed for 1,200 gigawatts (GW) of wind and solar power capacity by 2030, and for 25% of energy consumption to be met by non-fossil fuels by 2030. Achieving these goals is expected to ensure China’s carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions peak before 2030, but to fall short of a pathway towards carbon neutrality.

Therefore, to the extent that the new 14FYP for renewables can meet or overperform on its goals, it would also contribute to China’s effort to peak carbon emissions early and help bridge the global emission reduction gap towards a 1.5C pathway.

What is in the renewable energy plan?

The 14th FYP for renewable energy sticks with the previously announced vision of 25% of China’s energy coming from non-fossil sources by 2030. In order to increase the share from 15.9% in 2020 to 20% by 2025, the plan lays out a framework with a series of targets and actions.

Specifically, these cover: renewable energy production in million tonnes of coal equivalent (Mtce), overall and for non-electricity supplies; renewable electricity generation in terawatt hours (TWh); and renewable energy share in the grid (%), overall and for non-hydro sources. The details for each of the targets are shown in the table below.

	End of 2020 Actual	2025 target in 14FYP	2030 NDC target
Non-fossil fuel share of total energy consumption	15.9%	20%	25%
Renewable energy output	680Mtce	1,000Mtce	Wind and solar capacity 1,200GW
Renewable energy (excluding electricity)	60Mtce	60Mtce
Renewable electricity	2,210TWh	3,300TWh
Renewable electricity share	28.8%	33%
Non-hydro renewable electricity share	11.4%	18%

Unlike renewable development plans over the past decade, the new version abandons the mandatory generation capacity increase targets, which were the focus of the previous two renewable FYPs.

For example, the 13th FYP for renewable energy aimed for renewable power capacity, in total, to reach 680GW by 2020 – and for wind to reach 210GW.

But, in some respects, the new plan increases ambition. For example, it requires “newly increased renewable generation [to] make up more than 50% of the incremental electricity consumption” – in other words, that at least half of the increase in demand be covered by renewables.

Based on estimated growth in demand and the planned expansion of nuclear and hydropower, our analysis suggests that this target means generation from wind and solar would need to increase by around 150TWh annually over the 14th FYP period from 2021-2025.

This can be compared with the 100TWh annual average increase from wind and solar seen during the 13th FYP period – and the 255TWh increase recorded during 2021.

Will China overperform its renewable targets?

China has a track record of overperforming on renewable energy development goals in the last three FYPs. Since China first included a renewable goal in its energy plan, in the 11th FYP period, most of the quantitative goals for development of the sector have seen overperformance, especially wind and solar total capacity growth targets.

 

The new renewable plan targets total renewable energy output of at least 1,000Mtce by 2025 – up from 680Mtce in 2020 – which means an annual increase of at least 64Mtce is needed.

To generate that much energy, based on the current energy mix, at least 100GW of wind and solar capacity needs to be added annually in the next five years. This is more than the annual increase of more than 75GW from 2021 to 2030 needed to reach China’s NDC goal of 1,200GW of wind and solar by 2030 – meaning the renewable plan is likely to lead to overperformance.

Ambitious implementation at the local level could also contribute to overperformance at the national level. Reviewing the 14th FYPs for energy development issued by each province, 23 out of 34 regions and areas have set wind and solar capacity growth targets, amounting to more than 120GW per year between 2021 to 2025.

(Analysis published by Carbon Brief in May found at least 570GW of capacity set to be built during the 14FYP period, while recent press reports suggest more than 150GW could be built this year.)

The economic impact of renewable investments

China is experiencing an economic slowdown that has seen carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions fall for three quarters in a row, a trend expected to deepen as a result of strict Covid lockdowns.

China’s cabinet, the State Council, issued a package of measures to stabilise economic performance. Premier Li Keqiang has emphasised that “China’s economy is facing greater challenges than [in] 2020”.

Nevertheless, China’s development of renewable energy is expected to continue soaring.

In the same week as the economic stabilisation package, the Ministry of Finance released what Reuters described as “fiscal and taxation policies to support the shift towards carbon neutrality”, with support for the implementation of the 14th FYP for a modern energy system as the primary action.

Renewable energy investment has been an important economic engine in China and will play an even more significant role in boosting the economy than before, at a time when China faces the economic impact of Covid and uncertainties caused by the Ukraine crisis.

In 2021, China’s investment in clean energy took up more than 30% of the total global investment, according to the International Energy Agency, and this trend will continue.  

Implications for the global energy transition

Cheap renewables offer an answer to climate change, the energy crisis and inequality. China’s renewable investments will contribute to rising energy output from the sector, as well as offering the potential to boost domestic and global economic growth, by driving down wind and solar cost and by creating economic opportunities in terms of manufacturing and deployment.

Having dominated the solar panel market, China’s companies are now leading the global markets for electric vehicles (EVs) and batteries. Chinese companies CATL and BYD are responsible for producing the batteries for 39% of the world’s EV fleet.

The Global Wind Energy Council’s 2022 report indicates that China recently surpassed the UK and Germany in offshore wind, becoming the largest offshore wind market in the world, accounting for 40% of the global total installed capacity.

According to the new 14th FYP for renewables, China has committed to building offshore power “bases” in five regions. Six coastal provinces’ energy development plans indicate a total of 32GW offshore wind capacity growth during the 14th FYP period 2021-2025, which would represent an increase of more than 60% on the 2020 level.

China’s ambitious development plan means a growing market for all offshore turbine manufacturers, of which the western companies are still leading the market share.  

Challenges of decarbonising the energy mix

The success of the renewable energy plan will rely heavily on building large-scale renewable energy bases and creating market mechanisms leveraging renewable energy integration to the grid.

Meanwhile, the growing penetration of wind and solar in China’s electricity mix will require flexible resources that can balance and accommodate fluctuations in renewable output. These resources include energy storage, demand-side management and flexible operation of fossil fuel plants. 

Prioritising clean and inexpensive ways to balance renewable energy, in support of China’s climate goals, rather than the conventional fossil fuel approach that has been used in the past, will only be possible with smart policy design and appropriately designed pricing signals.

The renewable energy 14FYP includes measures promoting pumped hydro and other energy storage approaches. The National Energy Administration has also announced that permits for new coal power plants would be issued only if the projects are supplementary to renewables.

Despite all these efforts, however, there is still a risk that China’s growing coal capacity could run counter to the country’s efforts to decarbonise its energy mix. 

 

Edited September 18, 2022 by notsonice

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How Illegal Coal Mining Became One Of The Most Dangerous Jobs In India  https://youtu.be/V5J33TWm4Cs

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This does not include existing underground fossil fuels under the land or under the lakes and oceans. It is continuously being produced. Mankind is very small compared to all the methane (natural gas), oil, coal, peat, etc. produced by the dead bodies of living things. 

Edited September 19, 2022 by Ron Wagner