GREEN NEW DEAL = BLIZZARD OF LIES

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On 10/3/2022 at 11:41 PM, Boat said:

Like Clinton became the president because the economy was trashed. Then Obama wins the presidency because the economy was trashed. When you rednecks get 8-12 years in charge the history is a trashed economy. Grow the military, grow the debt, cut regulations, watch the crash. Yea we know the game plan. 

Here is the reality, Biden & Co. are now in a panic because their plans to destroy the economy have been flushed out and exposed for all to see.

The people in charge are running wild with fake pressure points.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/The-White-House-Is-In-A-Panic-To-Stop-The-OPEC-Production-Cut.html

"Figures such as Amos Hochstein, Janet Yellen, and BrettMcGurk have been tasked with making the case for no cuts with Gulf nations, with the CNN reporting noting that the Treasury Secretary’s talking points would focus on potential reputational damage in the West for the Gulf OPEC members that support the cut.

“There is great political risk to your reputation and relations with the United States and the west if you move forward,” CNN cited a talking points draft as saying."

Edited October 5, 2022 by Ecocharger

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On 10/3/2022 at 8:41 PM, Boat said:

Like Clinton became the president because the economy was trashed. Then Obama wins the presidency because the economy was trashed. When you rednecks get 8-12 years in charge the history is a trashed economy. Grow the military, grow the debt, cut regulations, watch the crash. Yea we know the game plan. 

Presidents have zilch to do with economy.  Rather who owns the Representatives and sets the ...    GASP!... budget... Who knew.

Suggest you read the US Constitution for where budget and regulations come from... Starts wit an L and not an E

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18 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

Here is the reality, Biden & Co. are now in a panic because their plans to destroy the economy have been flushed out and exposed for all to see.

The people in charge are running wild with fake pressure points.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/The-White-House-Is-In-A-Panic-To-Stop-The-OPEC-Production-Cut.html

"Figures such as Amos Hochstein, Janet Yellen, and BrettMcGurk have been tasked with making the case for no cuts with Gulf nations, with the CNN reporting noting that the Treasury Secretary’s talking points would focus on potential reputational damage in the West for the Gulf OPEC members that support the cut.

“There is great political risk to your reputation and relations with the United States and the west if you move forward,” CNN cited a talking points draft as saying."

Your a rather strange fellow but you like Trump and Putin so there you go. We don’t look for truth, assurance, empathy or commonsense from your crowd. We also know your bunch in continually disrupting the market trying to make a buck. I push for human rights, cleaner air and water. I promote fairness in all parts of the world. Fortunately my group stays relevant because we’re tech savvy and obviously smarter. Two decades from now FF will play 1/2 the role it does now. Your stranded assets will be like holes the Dems are fixing for you now. A reminder of bygone days. 

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37 minutes ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Presidents have zilch to do with economy.  Rather who owns the Representatives and sets the ...    GASP!... budget... Who knew.

Suggest you read the US Constitution for where budget and regulations come from... Starts wit an L and not an E

In the US the winning Prez gets a few hundred billion to reward the economy he prefers. It has nothing to do with the the Coup group or the Constitution. 

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19 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

Here is the reality, Biden & Co. are now in a panic because their plans to destroy the economy have been flushed out and exposed for all to see.

The people in charge are running wild with fake pressure points.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/The-White-House-Is-In-A-Panic-To-Stop-The-OPEC-Production-Cut.html

"Figures such as Amos Hochstein, Janet Yellen, and BrettMcGurk have been tasked with making the case for no cuts with Gulf nations, with the CNN reporting noting that the Treasury Secretary’s talking points would focus on potential reputational damage in the West for the Gulf OPEC members that support the cut.

“There is great political risk to your reputation and relations with the United States and the west if you move forward,” CNN cited a talking points draft as saying."

You mean the west doesn't like oil producers inflating the worlds economy? Interesting that’s the one thing the worlds economies can agree on. China, Europe and the US all work better with steady prices. Even less poor die with a steady world economy. I don’t expect your bunch to care much but whatever. The woke care. The woke think. The woke live to higher moral standards. 

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13 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Presidents have zilch to do with economy.  Rather who owns the Representatives and sets the ...    GASP!... budget... Who knew.

Suggest you read the US Constitution for where budget and regulations come from... Starts wit an L and not an E

The President creates the budget and a lot of regulations are decided by the executive branch.

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Do these items have anything to do with our high gasoline, diesel, propane, plastics, and other items? What do you think?

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On 10/4/2022 at 10:11 AM, notsonice said:

Electricity is more expensive than gasoline?????

wrong .....a typical EV uses .35  kwh per mile and the average price for electricity sold to consumers (IE at your home) is 15 cents in the US....meaning it costs around 5.3 cents per mile for electricity to power a car.......At $3.50 a gallon for gas you would have to have a car get close to 70 miles per gallon in your car to be as efficient as an EV. The average car, made in 2022, in the US, gets 26 miles per gallon.....

An EV is over 2.5 times more efficient than an ICE vehicle

Your assumption is wrong

No, you continue to be wrong. You do not consider the types of small vehicles that are actually fueled by electricity. Large sedans, pickup trucks, vans, commercial vehicles, large trucks, buses, etc. MPG is great but electric vehicles do not fuel these vehicles with few exceptions. 

You typically do not look at the big picture which includes the price of the vehicles, the interest on that price, and the rising cost of electricity which is subsidized by the taxpayer. It also does not include what normal oil prices can and will be under future administrations that do not restrict oil and gas production. Nor do they include what small ICE cars like my Mitsubishi can get. We love that little car that costs $15,000 dollars and gets 40 mpg. Let the customer decide and let our economy be free without governmental regulations that restrict production for stupid reasons and punish the taxpayers. 

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On 10/5/2022 at 8:38 PM, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Presidents have zilch to do with economy.  Rather who owns the Representatives and sets the ...    GASP!... budget... Who knew.

Suggest you read the US Constitution for where budget and regulations come from... Starts wit an L and not an E

[Ecocharger + 1,474]

On 10/5/2022 at 10:14 PM, Boat said:

Your a rather strange fellow but you like Trump and Putin so there you go. We don’t look for truth, assurance, empathy or commonsense from your crowd. We also know your bunch in continually disrupting the market trying to make a buck. I push for human rights, cleaner air and water. I promote fairness in all parts of the world. Fortunately my group stays relevant because we’re tech savvy and obviously smarter. Two decades from now FF will play 1/2 the role it does now. Your stranded assets will be like holes the Dems are fixing for you now. A reminder of bygone days. 

Where do you see me promoting Putin or Trump? 

You make up garbage faster than Biden & Co.

Get the trash out of your personal mental drainage system.

Edited October 7, 2022 by Ecocharger

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On 10/5/2022 at 10:25 PM, Boat said:

You mean the west doesn't like oil producers inflating the worlds economy? Interesting that’s the one thing the worlds economies can agree on. China, Europe and the US all work better with steady prices. Even less poor die with a steady world economy. I don’t expect your bunch to care much but whatever. The woke care. The woke think. The woke live to higher moral standards. 

It's time for you to end the woke and wake up.

[Ecocharger + 1,474]

What is this...someone dares to tell the truth to Congress? What a shock.

Instead of parroting the petrifying bilge, otherwise known as climate panic, we have some reality breaking through.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Failing-To-Invest-In-Oil-And-Gas-Would-Be-The-Road-To-Hell-For-America.html

"The CEO of JP Morgan, Jamie Dimon, said that banks refusing to fund new oil and gas projects would be “the road to hell for America”.

An unnamed senior executive at a U.S. bank is considering removing the organization from global green commitments due to legal risk.

Dimon highlighted the fact that the current energy crisis has led to rising emissions due to increased coal use as oil and gas was not available."

Edited October 8, 2022 by Ecocharger

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7 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

Half of what you wrote is  Congress... Not Executive branch...  So... try again.  That is what happens when you own all 3 branches of government.  The rest is bastardization o executive orders which have near zero relevance.   3rd all those federal lands should be handed 100% to the states in which they reside.  I'll give the exception to any area 11 miles off shore.  Anything within 11 miles as far as I am concerned should also be state land and NOT under the US Coast Guard jurisdiction. 

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15 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

 

Dimon highlighted the fact that the current energy crisis has led to rising emissions due to increased coal use as oil and gas was not available."

If you knew anything about energy you would know that oil and coal are not substitutes.

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UK Launches Massive Oil & Gas Licensing Round

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/UK-Launches-Massive-Oil-Gas-Licensing-Round.html

Its about time too!

Edited October 10, 2022 by Rob Plant

[Ron Wagner + 710]

Tesla's cost more to insure than a Porsche. https://www.consumerreports.org/car-insurance/electric-vehicles-cost-more-to-insure-than-gasoline-powered-a6372607024/

It costs $20,000 to replace a long range battery for a Tesla! More than a loaded Mitsubishi Mirage!

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On 10/7/2022 at 8:11 PM, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Half of what you wrote is  Congress... Not Executive branch...  So... try again.  That is what happens when you own all 3 branches of government.  The rest is bastardization o executive orders which have near zero relevance.   3rd all those federal lands should be handed 100% to the states in which they reside.  I'll give the exception to any area 11 miles off shore.  Anything within 11 miles as far as I am concerned should also be state land and NOT under the US Coast Guard jurisdiction. 

Compare the price of gasoline,  diesel, and natural gas under President Trump versus the price under the Biden regime which is just two years old! The administrative state is controlled by a Democrat Senate and House and has been for quite awhile. The President sets the tone and Democrats go along with the WOKE bullshit. 

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On 10/7/2022 at 11:40 AM, Ron Wagner said:

No, you continue to be wrong. You do not consider the types of small vehicles that are actually fueled by electricity. Large sedans, pickup trucks, vans, commercial vehicles, large trucks, buses, etc. MPG is great but electric vehicles do not fuel these vehicles with few exceptions. 

You typically do not look at the big picture which includes the price of the vehicles, the interest on that price, and the rising cost of electricity which is subsidized by the taxpayer. It also does not include what normal oil prices can and will be under future administrations that do not restrict oil and gas production. Nor do they include what small ICE cars like my Mitsubishi can get. We love that little car that costs $15,000 dollars and gets 40 mpg. Let the customer decide and let our economy be free without governmental regulations that restrict production for stupid reasons and punish the taxpayers. 

You are wrong....when you compare ......the typical EV in the US is a Tesla....which is not a small compact car by any means

Plain and simple your argurments are based on your flawed assumptions.

Then you post garbage. Typically this is what losers do.....post garbage

 

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1 hour ago, Ron Wagner said:

Compare the price of gasoline,  diesel, and natural gas under President Trump versus the price under the Biden regime which is just two years old! The administrative state is controlled by a Democrat Senate and House and has been for quite awhile. The President sets the tone and Democrats go along with the WOKE bullshit. 

The price of gasoline crashed in 2020..........Thanks to Trumps failure to react to COVID. Do you want to live in 2020 again? 

 

Please keep supporting your GOP party. What do they stand for today???? Head to Georgia with the rest of the GOP losers as Herscel needs your support...... Remember Herscel is a sack of shit and he is the best that the GOP has to offer. Do you want a bunch of Herscels running the US....

 

Wake up as you are swimming is Herschels Bullshit Party

 

PS Trump is not president anymore...........for a good reason ....Ex-President Trump ha ha ha 

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On 10/7/2022 at 7:11 PM, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Half of what you wrote is  Congress... Not Executive branch...  So... try again.  That is what happens when you own all 3 branches of government.  The rest is bastardization o executive orders which have near zero relevance.   3rd all those federal lands should be handed 100% to the states in which they reside.  I'll give the exception to any area 11 miles off shore.  Anything within 11 miles as far as I am concerned should also be state land and NOT under the US Coast Guard jurisdiction. 

Divided states of America.

"DSA, DSA!"

[Ecocharger + 1,474]

Biden & Co. are more concerned about politics than they are about the realities of the energy markets.

But this ignorance is catching up with them,

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Has-OPEC-Dictated-The-Outcome-Of-The-US-Mid-term-Elections.html

"The timing of the OPEC+ output cuts could not have been worse for the Democrats.

Recent polling shows that most Americans continue to have a pessimistic view of the economy.

High inflation, record-level interest and mortgage rates and now rising gas prices are likely to reverse the gains made by Democrats on the economic front."

Edited October 10, 2022 by Ecocharger

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10 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

Compare the price of gasoline,  diesel, and natural gas under President Trump versus the price under the Biden regime which is just two years old! The administrative state is controlled by a Democrat Senate and House and has been for quite awhile. The President sets the tone and Democrats go along with the WOKE bullshit. 

DO not be absurd.  Record low prices for a decade followed by price war with OPEC to drive shale drillers out of business, followed by Covid cratering prices had nothing to do with Biden.  Get real.  As for the rest, yes, agree.  But THOSE problems created under Demonrat control will not manifest for another year or so.  O&G does not work that fast.  Its cycle time is  measured in half decadal swings.  The low prices which started under Obama(who also had nothing to do with it) forced investment into O&G offline compounded by envirowackos without a plan other than decivilization/depopulation, WILL 100% have a giant effect and we might be seeing it now when compounded with Russia about to go offline, but it started, a decade back. 

Only in the USA can drilling to production happen so fast due to shale.  Everywhere else is just starting on Shale and honestly those basins require IMMENSE $$$ to get them going and USA's shale boom started when capital was ~FREE.  Everyone else?  it is not.  USA's shale happened right next to giant existing infrastructure.... places like Argentina?  NOPE and why it is taking them so long to get even a small amount of production(that and union/political corruption)

Geography matters.  Politicians do not help any that is for sure!  But common man, political blunders do not have gargantuan consequences so quickly.... Though emptying out the SPR just might actually do the trick...

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So wrong. ESG is a very large factor and is just coming in. New finds around the world will all develop as long as high prices remain. Big money will come in to make more money, as it always does. Congress is changing BIGLY soon. The whole world has oil and gas available nearby. It just hasn't been developed yet. Shale oil was known of long ago and could have been developed. Now the science is fully developed and can be used anywhere money can be invested.  

Russian natural gas and oil will find its way to market through India, China, Turkey, etc. It will just take time. It will be at a discount but it will affect worldwide prices. LNG is going to be used wherever piped gas is not available. 

 

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On 10/10/2022 at 10:35 AM, notsonice said:

The price of gasoline crashed in 2020..........Thanks to Trumps failure to react to COVID. Do you want to live in 2020 again? 

 

Please keep supporting your GOP party. What do they stand for today???? Head to Georgia with the rest of the GOP losers as Herscel needs your support...... Remember Herscel is a sack of shit and he is the best that the GOP has to offer. Do you want a bunch of Herscels running the US....

 

Wake up as you are swimming is Herschels Bullshit Party

 

PS Trump is not president anymore...........for a good reason ....Ex-President Trump ha ha ha 

Wait and see what happens at the next election. Americans are tired of the Biden administration and want an " All of the above" energy policy. The longer that Biden continues to stop the development of energy the longer his party declines. They are devoid of practical ideas and are living in a fantasy land that is increasingly being ridiculed by the majority. 

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On 10/10/2022 at 10:25 AM, notsonice said:

You are wrong....when you compare ......the typical EV in the US is a Tesla....which is not a small compact car by any means

Plain and simple your argurments are based on your flawed assumptions.

Then you post garbage. Typically this is what losers do.....post garbage

 

I spoke of a far less expensive vehicle for a reason. People can afford it. They can also afford many other ICE vehicles and small hybrid or short range EVs and hybrids. People like big vehicles. I have a 12 seat NV3500 with leather seats as well as a minivan and my Mirage. I like them all. We will see how vehicles sell. I rarely see any EVs in the Midwest. I do see them in California. 

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Great question! Just under 1% of all the cars in the US are fully electric vehicles (EVs). This number doesn’t account for partial electric and hybrid vehicles.

In 2020, electric and hybrid vehicles saw a huge jump in sales, approximately 76% for hybrids and 83% for fully electric cars. It’s an impressive leap, but overall only 3% of car sales in 2021 were electric cars, and just 5% were hybrids. Looking at the EV market for 2022, though, the number of electric vehicle sales is expected to jump to 5%, as more and more options enter the market.

One factor here for the low sales numbers of electric cars is the price of the most recognizable electric car brand in America. Tesla has long been known as an expensive option, and with their recent price change, this continues to be true. Many Americans simply can’t afford their choice of electric vehicle.

For some consumers, they have questions about the cost of insuring an electric car and how it compares. Luckily, Jerry compares car insurance rates on both electric and gas cars for you to get you the best price possible.

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Edited October 14, 2022 by Ron Wagner