Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, TailingsPond said: You are hanging on to a belief despite demonstrated facts. Logic failure The owner is the Italian company and they control the manufacturing process, that makes it Italian. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 15, 2023 (edited) The Internal Combustion Engine is showing lots of life, and the high end vehicles are breaking sales records. Sales of expensive ICE vehicles are smashing through the limits. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Rolls-Royce-Smashes-Sales-Record-In-2022-As-Ultra-Rich-Splurged-On-Luxury.html "Rolls Royce Motor Cars recorded its highest-ever annual sales in 2022. 2022 was a terrible year for billionaires, many of which lost nearly $2 trillion combined. Despite the turmoil in many asset classes, the ultra-wealthy were increasingly buying luxury cars." Edited January 15, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM January 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: The Internal Combustion Engine is showing lots of life, and the high end vehicles are breaking sales records. Sales of expensive ICE vehicles are smashing through the limits. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Rolls-Royce-Smashes-Sales-Record-In-2022-As-Ultra-Rich-Splurged-On-Luxury.html "Rolls Royce Motor Cars recorded its highest-ever annual sales in 2022. 2022 was a terrible year for billionaires, many of which lost nearly $2 trillion combined. Despite the turmoil in many asset classes, the ultra-wealthy were increasingly buying luxury cars." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM January 15, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: The Internal Combustion Engine is showing lots of life, and the high end vehicles are breaking sales records. Sales of expensive ICE vehicles are smashing through the limits. https://oilprice.com/E Rolls-Royce says it already has hundreds of U.S. orders for its $413,000 Spectre electric vehicle PUBLISHED TUE, OCT 18 202212:43 PM EDTUPDATED TUE, OCT 18 20225:38 PM EDT Robert Frank@ROBTFRANK KEY POINTS Rolls-Royce CEO Torsten Muller-Otvos told CNBC the buyers visited the company’s headquarters in England to get a sneak peak at the Spectre. The company’s first electric vehicle was publicly revealed Tuesday and comes starting price tag of $413,000. General Motors this week unveiled its Celestiq electric vehicle, which starts at more than $300,000. WATCH NOW -Royce unveils its first electric vehicle, the $413,000 Spectre More than 300 U.S. buyers have already put down deposits for Rolls-Royce’s first electric vehicle prior to its unveiling on Tuesday, the luxury automaker’s CEO told CNBC. Rolls-Royce CEO Torsten Muller-Otvos told CNBC that the buyers visited the company’s headquarters in Goodwood, England over the past two weeks to get a sneak peak at the Spectre, which was publicly revealed Tuesday and comes with a starting price tag of $413,000. The two-door coupe, which is sleeker than a typical Rolls, has a range of about 320 miles and can go from 0-60 miles per hour in 4.4 seconds. Rolls-Royce has said its entire product line will be fully electric by 2030. Muller-Otvos said the buyers put down deposits before they even saw the car. “Once they have seen it here, they are delighted,” he said. “The order book looks strong.” Rolls Royce Spectre Courtesy: Rolls-Royce The car is the most expensive of EV coupe on the market and defines a new category of what Rolls calls an “Ultra-Luxury Electric Super Coupé.” General Motors, meanwhile, this week unveiled its Celestiq electric vehicle, which starts at more than $300,000. Muller-Otvos said the switch to EVs is a natural for Rolls, since its cars are already famous for their smooth, quiet rides and quick power. “It needs to be a Rolls-Royce first,” Muller-Otvos said. “That means stability, brilliant quality, timeless materials, flight-on-land, silent propulsion. It carries all these genes Rolls-Royce is famous for.” WATCH NOW VIDEO01:39 Rolls Royce introduces its first EV model “Spectre” Muller-Otvos declined to give specific sales targets or goals for the Spectre. In 2021, Rolls-Royce had a record year in terms of sales and production, delivering 5,586 cars. “In terms of proportion (of sales), I would say Cullinan, our great SUV is one column. The second column is the Ghost, our great limousine. And then comes Spectre as the third column,” he said. Among the special features in the Spectre are an illuminated front grille with 22 LEDs, a flowing aerodynamic “waft” line along the sides modeled after racing yachts and new digital intelligence system called Spirit. Its famous “Spirit of Ecstasy” hood ornament was also be redesigned, with a more modern look. Rolls Royce Spectre Courtesy: Rolls-Royce Other Rolls Royce models offer the popular “starlight headliner,” with over 1,400 tiny stars that light up on the car roof at night. As a special option, Spectre will offer the “Illuminated Fascia” of over 5,500 stars along the doors and roof. “Spectre is the most perfect product that Rolls Royce has ever produced,” Muller-Otvos said. nergy/Energy-General/Rolls-Royce-Smashes-Sales-Record-In-2022-As-Ultra-Rich-Splurged-On-Luxury.html "Rolls Royce Motor Cars recorded its highest-ever annual sales in 2022. 2022 was a terrible year for billionaires, many of which lost nearly $2 trillion combined. Despite the turmoil in many asset classes, the ultra-wealthy were increasingly buying luxury cars." Rolls-Royce says it already has hundreds of U.S. orders for its $413,000 Spectre electric vehicle PUBLISHED TUE, OCT 18 202212:43 PM EDTUPDATED TUE, OCT 18 20225:38 PM EDT Robert Frank@ROBTFRANK KEY POINTS Rolls-Royce CEO Torsten Muller-Otvos told CNBC the buyers visited the company’s headquarters in England to get a sneak peak at the Spectre. The company’s first electric vehicle was publicly revealed Tuesday and comes starting price tag of $413,000. General Motors this week unveiled its Celestiq electric vehicle, which starts at more than $300,000. WATCH NOW VIDEO01:07 Rolls-Royce unveils its first electric vehicle, the $413,000 Spectre More than 300 U.S. buyers have already put down deposits for Rolls-Royce’s first electric vehicle prior to its unveiling on Tuesday, the luxury automaker’s CEO told CNBC. Rolls-Royce CEO Torsten Muller-Otvos told CNBC that the buyers visited the company’s headquarters in Goodwood, England over the past two weeks to get a sneak peak at the Spectre, which was publicly revealed Tuesday and comes with a starting price tag of $413,000. The two-door coupe, which is sleeker than a typical Rolls, has a range of about 320 miles and can go from 0-60 miles per hour in 4.4 seconds. Rolls-Royce has said its entire product line will be fully electric by 2030. Muller-Otvos said the buyers put down deposits before they even saw the car. “Once they have seen it here, they are delighted,” he said. “The order book looks strong.” Rolls Royce Spectre Courtesy: Rolls-Royce The car is the most expensive of EV coupe on the market and defines a new category of what Rolls calls an “Ultra-Luxury Electric Super Coupé.” General Motors, meanwhile, this week unveiled its Celestiq electric vehicle, which starts at more than $300,000. Muller-Otvos said the switch to EVs is a natural for Rolls, since its cars are already famous for their smooth, quiet rides and quick power. “It needs to be a Rolls-Royce first,” Muller-Otvos said. “That means stability, brilliant quality, timeless materials, flight-on-land, silent propulsion. It carries all these genes Rolls-Royce is famous for.” WATCH NOW VIDEO01:39 Rolls Royce introduces its first EV model “Spectre” Muller-Otvos declined to give specific sales targets or goals for the Spectre. In 2021, Rolls-Royce had a record year in terms of sales and production, delivering 5,586 cars. “In terms of proportion (of sales), I would say Cullinan, our great SUV is one column. The second column is the Ghost, our great limousine. And then comes Spectre as the third column,” he said. Among the special features in the Spectre are an illuminated front grille with 22 LEDs, a flowing aerodynamic “waft” line along the sides modeled after racing yachts and new digital intelligence system called Spirit. Its famous “Spirit of Ecstasy” hood ornament was also be redesigned, with a more modern look. Rolls Royce Spectre Courtesy: Rolls-Royce Other Rolls Royce models offer the popular “starlight headliner,” with over 1,400 tiny stars that light up on the car roof at night. As a special option, Spectre will offer the “Illuminated Fascia” of over 5,500 stars along the doors and roof. “Spectre is the most perfect product that Rolls Royce has ever produced,” Muller-Otvos said. 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Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 16, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, notsonice said: Rolls-Royce says it already has hundreds of U.S. orders for its $413,000 Spectre electric vehicle PUBLISHED TUE, OCT 18 202212:43 PM EDTUPDATED TUE, OCT 18 20225:38 PM EDT Robert Frank@ROBTFRANK KEY POINTS Rolls-Royce CEO Torsten Muller-Otvos told CNBC the buyers visited the company’s headquarters in England to get a sneak peak at the Spectre. The company’s first electric vehicle was publicly revealed Tuesday and comes starting price tag of $413,000. General Motors this week unveiled its Celestiq electric vehicle, which starts at more than $300,000. WATCH NOW VIDEO01:07 Rolls-Royce unveils its first electric vehicle, the $413,000 Spectre More than 300 U.S. buyers have already put down deposits for Rolls-Royce’s first electric vehicle prior to its unveiling on Tuesday, the luxury automaker’s CEO told CNBC. Rolls-Royce CEO Torsten Muller-Otvos told CNBC that the buyers visited the company’s headquarters in Goodwood, England over the past two weeks to get a sneak peak at the Spectre, which was publicly revealed Tuesday and comes with a starting price tag of $413,000. The two-door coupe, which is sleeker than a typical Rolls, has a range of about 320 miles and can go from 0-60 miles per hour in 4.4 seconds. Rolls-Royce has said its entire product line will be fully electric by 2030. Muller-Otvos said the buyers put down deposits before they even saw the car. “Once they have seen it here, they are delighted,” he said. “The order book looks strong.” Rolls Royce Spectre Courtesy: Rolls-Royce The car is the most expensive of EV coupe on the market and defines a new category of what Rolls calls an “Ultra-Luxury Electric Super Coupé.” General Motors, meanwhile, this week unveiled its Celestiq electric vehicle, which starts at more than $300,000. Muller-Otvos said the switch to EVs is a natural for Rolls, since its cars are already famous for their smooth, quiet rides and quick power. “It needs to be a Rolls-Royce first,” Muller-Otvos said. “That means stability, brilliant quality, timeless materials, flight-on-land, silent propulsion. It carries all these genes Rolls-Royce is famous for.” WATCH NOW VIDEO01:39 Rolls Royce introduces its first EV model “Spectre” Muller-Otvos declined to give specific sales targets or goals for the Spectre. In 2021, Rolls-Royce had a record year in terms of sales and production, delivering 5,586 cars. “In terms of proportion (of sales), I would say Cullinan, our great SUV is one column. The second column is the Ghost, our great limousine. And then comes Spectre as the third column,” he said. Among the special features in the Spectre are an illuminated front grille with 22 LEDs, a flowing aerodynamic “waft” line along the sides modeled after racing yachts and new digital intelligence system called Spirit. Its famous “Spirit of Ecstasy” hood ornament was also be redesigned, with a more modern look. Rolls Royce Spectre Courtesy: Rolls-Royce Other Rolls Royce models offer the popular “starlight headliner,” with over 1,400 tiny stars that light up on the car roof at night. As a special option, Spectre will offer the “Illuminated Fascia” of over 5,500 stars along the doors and roof. “Spectre is the most perfect product that Rolls Royce has ever produced,” Muller-Otvos said. Sales of Rolls Royce internal combustion engine vehicles have smashed all-time sales limits this past year, while the new EV has yet to make any appearance. 300 advance orders are not even a drop in the bucket. "Muller-Otvos declined to give specific sales targets or goals for the Spectre" Ha, ha! Edited January 16, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM January 16, 2023 33 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: Sales of Rolls Royce internal combustion engine vehicles have smashed all-time sales limits this past year, while the new EV has yet to make any appearance. 300 advance orders are not even a drop in the bucket. "Muller-Otvos declined to give specific sales targets or goals for the Spectre" Ha, ha! 5,586 for 2021 worldwide sales for 2022, with 6,021 sales in the year worldwide a rise of 435 sales of Spectre up until October18 in the US alone .......More than 300 U.S. buyers now you figure out worldwide sale for Spectre Ending Dec 31.........400? 500? 600? subtract that from 435......Looks like all the growth in sales in 2022 from ICE vehicles....a loss of sales ha ha ha EV's are RR future .......2030 is the change over date and to top it off RR is dropping 2 of their poor selling ICE vehicles in 2023 with no ICE replacements Rolls-Royce has announced that it will end the production of Wraith and Dawn models. The move comes after the company pulled down the models from its US lineup in April last year. Mar 27, 2022 the company has confirmed with Autocar that production for both models will end in 2023, with the company having no plans to produce direct replacements. Müller-Ötvös also added that the Spectre would fill the Wraith’s role in Rolls’ lineup. Get used to it....ICE vehicles going out of production HA HA HA and the topper This is the brand’s first step toward becoming an all-electric brand which it wants to do before the end of the decade Your ICE bucket is going to be empty at RR in 2030 drop in the bucket??? no more ICE drops in the RR bucket HA HA HA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,191 January 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Ecocharger said: The owner is the Italian company and they control the manufacturing process, that makes it Italian. Nope. At best makes it half and then you hope and pray there never is a war. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM January 16, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ecocharger said: The owner is the Italian company and they control the manufacturing process, that makes it Italian. lol you keep telling your self your Chinesse couch is Italian.......it if makes you feel better.... HA HA HA reality your butt is sitting on a couch that makes China stronger and puts real Italian workers out of work and Italian Tanneries out of business. You must be so proud of your self Edited January 16, 2023 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 16, 2023 56 minutes ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: Nope. At best makes it half and then you hope and pray there never is a war. The owner and investor is Italian, they call the tune. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, notsonice said: 5,586 for 2021 worldwide sales for 2022, with 6,021 sales in the year worldwide a rise of 435 sales of Spectre up until October18 in the US alone .......More than 300 U.S. buyers now you figure out worldwide sale for Spectre Ending Dec 31.........400? 500? 600? subtract that from 435......Looks like all the growth in sales in 2022 from ICE vehicles....a loss of sales ha ha ha EV's are RR future .......2030 is the change over date and to top it off RR is dropping 2 of their poor selling ICE vehicles in 2023 with no ICE replacements Rolls-Royce has announced that it will end the production of Wraith and Dawn models. The move comes after the company pulled down the models from its US lineup in April last year. Mar 27, 2022 the company has confirmed with Autocar that production for both models will end in 2023, with the company having no plans to produce direct replacements. Müller-Ötvös also added that the Spectre would fill the Wraith’s role in Rolls’ lineup. Get used to it....ICE vehicles going out of production HA HA HA and the topper This is the brand’s first step toward becoming an all-electric brand which it wants to do before the end of the decade Your ICE bucket is going to be empty at RR in 2030 drop in the bucket??? no more ICE drops in the RR bucket HA HA HA You seem to have misread the numbers again, as usual. The first electric model comes out in December 2023. The success this past year is from Internal Combustion models. "Despite cutting models from its lineup as it geared to face the electric future, Rolls Royce still managed to shift 6,000 cars in 2022. This, according to Auto Express, made for a record year for the company: “The Goodwood marque says that strong performance in the United States, Greater China and Europe drove its global sales increase. And it is confident that it can build on the success this year, with orders for ‘all models’ stretching well into the next 12 months. Rolls-Royce also says the pre-order bank for the all-electric Spectre – a car that’s not due to be delivered until the final quarter of this year – has ‘exceeded expectations’.” In terms of models across its range, the Cullinan SUV was Rolls Royce’s best-selling model over the past 12 months, while the Ghost was the most popular model in Asia-Pacific. It’ll be interesting to see how those top sellers will look at the end of 2023, when Rolls will introduce its first EV, the Spectre." Edited January 16, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 470 January 16, 2023 17 hours ago, TailingsPond said: Like a made in China MAGA hat. you might have gotten things mixed......... Souvenir vs MAGA hat....... One is a sent-away-thing; another is imported for local usages. Or, if we put it another way.......... Souvenir is a child that produced after a one night stand onto the visiting partner and usually given away free or at low price. MAGA hat is a child specially produced upon requested, most probably with a fee, despite from another country. MAGA hat deserves a like............ Globalization might have made low cost campaign possible... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 470 January 16, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, notsonice said: lol you keep telling your self your Chinesse couch is Italian.......it if makes you feel better.... HA HA HA reality your butt is sitting on a couch that makes China stronger and puts real Italian workers out of work and Italian Tanneries out of business. You must be so proud of your self you might have not noticed this sentence:" it is an Italian product, made in China". Like iphone, a product of USA, but some made in china...... Most of us might have low impression on the quality of products produced by China generally. Owing to the volume of production is usually aimed at serving a tentative 1 to 10% of a billion population, raw material has to be planned out........ Would they need to cut purity to hit the mark? Compromise on types of material used? Where would recurrent purchase be if one purchase lasts a life time? etc etc......... A soft reminder, those who owned empires used to have several hundreds of concubines and porcupines, if we are interested to know why they need more money from recurrent sales........... However, sometimes it depends on how things are produced e.g. material and design or parts from USA, assembled in China, might produce things as good as from the original country...... One could sustain factories at home country and yet create more affordable products for many while creating jobs and may be a chain of development to targeted location........ e.g. Japan. There is not just one way how things can be perceived........ Edited January 16, 2023 by specinho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 16, 2023 (edited) Coal usage is up in Germany, the hotbed of Green fanaticism. Expect coal usage to increase going forward. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Germany-Will-Need-To-Hold-Onto-Coal-Power-For-Longer.html "Germany’s hard coal demand from coal-fired power stations increased by 16% last year, new VDKI estimates show, cited by Argus Media. While that’s lower than what VDKI previously predicted, coal usage in Germany is still up, and the country will keep relying on coal for longer than Germany would like. Germany imported 43mn t of hard coal last year, up 4.7%, VDKI estimates. Steam coal imports used for power plants rose 12% to 30mn t." Edited January 16, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 January 16, 2023 (edited) Meet the backers of Green Energy extremists...Ya don't say. https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/meet-the-green-energy-group-behind-the-study-thats-driving-calls-to-ban-gas-stoves/ Meet the Green Energy Group Behind the Study That's Driving Calls To Ban Gas Stoves Rocky Mountain Institute partnered with China to implement 'economy-wide transformation' away from oil and gas Edited January 16, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 January 17, 2023 (edited) This Green malaise is about to wreak havoc inside the auto industry along with the financial arm. Tesla has forever changed the Green landscape. GM will become a absolute chit show in 90 days. Imagine if you will betting a company financial future on a depreciating asset.. https://www.theautopian.com/nearly-70-of-carmaxs-tesla-inventory-disappeared-in-three-days/ Nearly 70% Of CarMax’s Tesla Inventory Disappeared In Three Days https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-discount-car-stocks-51674085042 Tesla Cut Prices—and Sent Auto Stocks Tumbling Edited January 19, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlBub + 14 AB January 17, 2023 On 11/14/2022 at 2:28 PM, turbguy said: Suggested solution: adequate water storage and management for your expected needs. Solution was what we did. You can only store just so much water economically. Not everyone can ignore the "economically" part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 18, 2023 (edited) Oil is still the King of Energy and demand for oil is going to increase dramatically going forward. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/IEA-Sees-Global-Oil-Demand-Hitting-A-Record-High-In-2023.html "The International Energy Agency believes global oil demand will hit a record high of 101.7 million barrels per day this year. The IEA raised its demand estimate by 200,000 bpd, with the agency saying China will drive nearly half of global demand growth. Oil prices continued to rally early on Wednesday morning on IEA estimates that oil markets are set to tighten in 2023." Edited January 18, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP January 19, 2023 18 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Oil is still the King of Energy and demand for oil is going to increase dramatically going forward. Oil + gas most definitely will remain king for many years, without it the world is doomed to poverty. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL January 20, 2023 (edited) China will rapidly increase its coal production going forward. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-To-Accelerate-The-Construction-Of-Coal-Fired-Power-Plants.html "In 2022, China said it would continue to maximize the use of coal in the coming years as it caters to its energy security, despite pledges to contribute to global efforts to reduce emissions. In recent months, China has significantly boosted its coal production, following government orders. China produced a record amount of coal last year, although output ended the year with a decline amid the latest surge in Covid infections. Total Chinese coal output for the year reached 4.496 billion tons, which was a 9-percent increase compared to 2021, according to official statistics data." Edited January 20, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE January 20, 2023 The people got rid of most Kings... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, TailingsPond said: The people got rid of most Kings... Not in my country they didnt 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 January 20, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rob Plant said: Not in my country they didnt https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchies_in_Europe Monarchies in Europe Edited January 20, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE January 20, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Rob Plant said: Not in my country they didn't The Commonwealth et al have largely powerless "Kings" under a constitutional monarchies. The non-democratic monarchies tend to be somewhat dangerous oil producing countries. Powerless kings indeed... get it? The kings have no electricity. Edited January 20, 2023 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE January 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchies_in_Europe Monarchies in Europe USA literally has a holiday to celebrate the removal of monarchy. Be careful now, suggestion to return power to the king is treason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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