GREEN NEW DEAL = BLIZZARD OF LIES

[Rob Plant + 2,756]

4 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

"Vehicles with internal combustion engines can still be newly registered after 2035 if they fill up exclusively with CO2-neutral fuels," he said in a post on Twitter.

They sound expensive!

[turbguy + 1,544]

Blizzard of lies?

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=55960

Renewable generation surpassed coal and nuclear in the U.S. electric power sector in 2022

[Ron Wagner + 710]

That is good but we need to be allowing mining for all the minerals we need to continue building renewables and transmission lines at affordable rates. We also need to see China, India and the rest of the Third World match our efforts without asking us to pay for it. Coal use is still growing worldwide, or close to it. Natural gas and oil development must continue to support transportation and many other needs. Presently, the Biden administration is creating scarcity of many minerals through poor policies. 

[specinho + 470]

On 3/27/2023 at 11:36 AM, Ron Wagner said:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/germany-reaches-deal-eu-future-105332030.html

 

Germany reaches deal with EU on future use of combustion engines

15

Tom Sims and Kate Abnett

Sat, March 25, 2023 at 5:53 AM CDT·2 min read

 

 

 

FILE PHOTO: Cars drive on the Mittlerer Ring in Munich, Germany

By Tom Sims and Kate Abnett

FRANKFURT/BRUSSELS (Reuters) -The European Union and Germany have reached a deal on the future use of combustion engines, officials said on Saturday, an issue that has been closely followed by the auto industry.

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The agreement will allow some combustion engines beyond 2035 and was quickly condemned by a prominent environmental group.

The bloc and its largest economy had been at odds over the planned 2035 phase-out of CO2-emitting cars, but leaders signalled in recent days that they were close to a resolution.

Germany had wanted assurances that new combustion engine cars can be sold beyond the deadline if they run on e-fuels - a request supported by parts of Germany's powerful car industry.

"We have found an agreement with Germany on the future use of e-fuels in cars," Frans Timmermans, head of EU climate policy, said on Twitter.

German Transport Minister Volker Wissing said "the way is clear" with the agreement reached late Friday.

"Vehicles with internal combustion engines can still be newly registered after 2035 if they fill up exclusively with CO2-neutral fuels," he said in a post on Twitter.

Sweden, which holds the EU's rotating presidency, said EU diplomats would vote on Monday to formally approve the 2035 phaseout law.

That would mean energy ministers could then give the law the final sign-off needed for it to enter into force on Tuesday, at a scheduled meeting in Brussels.

Benjamin Stephan of the Greenpeace campaign group said the deal was a setback for climate protection.

"This stinky compromise undermines climate protection in transport, and it harms Europe," he said.

It dilutes the needed focus of the auto industry on efficient electromobility, he said.

(Reporting by Tom Sims and Kate Abnett; editing by Jason Neely and Mike Harrison)

Solar car of light year one, Germany, is into production. They might have reason to do so....

This solar car can go with wind fan in preparation when there is no sun or low intensity than the panel can process. 'o' '-'

[specinho + 470]

4 hours ago, turbguy said:

Blizzard of lies?

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=55960

Renewable generation surpassed coal and nuclear in the U.S. electric power sector in 2022

🤔 Was there a winter somewhere when solar, wind, water energy not working but have to appeal to the reopening of coal power stations?...... '-'

[Ron Wagner + 710]

3 minutes ago, specinho said:

🤔 Was there a winter somewhere when solar, wind, water energy not working but have to appeal to the reopening of coal power stations?...... '-'

Yes, California has an ongoing problem with outages, they have had to restore natural gas plants in the last couple of years. Plants that they had planned to close but finally had to concede to engineers who had been telling them it wouldn't work. California is paying more for energy than any other state aside from Hawaii. 

 

[Rob Plant + 2,756]

5 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

California is paying more for energy than any other state aside from Hawaii. 

Is Hawaii the most expensive because of the Kilauea eruption in 2018? Looking at electricity generation pre the eruption geothermal supplied 31%, following only 17.6%, so I presume the plant's infrastructure was compromised??

Its a shame with all the geothermal on offer it isnt more widely exploited.

[notsonice + 1,255]

15 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

Yes, California has an ongoing problem with outages, they have had to restore natural gas plants in the last couple of years. Plants that they had planned to close but finally had to concede to engineers who had been telling them it wouldn't work. California is paying more for energy than any other state aside from Hawaii. 

 

California is paying more for energy than any other state aside from Hawaii. ????

who cares....the per capita income in California is one of the highest in the US in the top five behind Hawaii and Wash DC.....

guess the people who work at the power companies get paid more and the suppliers get paid more and the cost of construction is higher well because the the per capita income in California  is higher.......20 percent higher than the average in the US

You earn more and you pay more in California....

 

Remember it is location location location or do you prefer to live in a depressed rust belt city in the middle of nowhere USA????

I will take the beaches in California anyday over some end to the road trailer park in Illinois and will have no problem paying for the higher cost of electricity

again Location Location Location.....no free lunch to live a better life....what is it worth to live 3 years longer than average???????????

who lives longer....... 1.	Hawaii	82.3
2.	California	81.7
3.	New York	81.4
4.	Minnesota	80.9
5.	Connecticut	80.9
6.	Massachusetts	80.6
7	Colorado	80.6
8.	New Jersey	80.5
9.	Washington	80.4
10.	Florida	80.2
11.	Utah	80.1
12.	Arizona	80.0
13.	Oregon	79.9
-	Guam[2]	79.9
14.	Rhode Island	79.8
15.	Vermont	79.8
-	Puerto Rico[2]	79.8
16.	North Dakota	79.7
17.	New Hampshire	79.7
18.	Nebraska	79.6
-	U.S. Virgin Islands[2]	79.6
19.	Virginia	79.5
20.	Wisconsin	79.5
21.	Iowa	79.4
22.	Idaho	79.4
23.	Illinois	79.4
24.	Texas	79.2
25.	Maryland	79.2
26.	Alaska	79.0
27.	District of Columbia	79.0
28.	South Dakota	78.9
29.	Wyoming	78.9
30.	Montana	78.9
-	United States	78.8[5]
31.	Maine	78.7
32.	Nevada	78.7
33.	Kansas	78.5
34.	Delaware	78.5
35.	Pennsylvania	78.4
36.	North Carolina	78.1
37.	New Mexico	78.0
38.	Michigan	78.1
39.	Georgia	77.9
40.	Missouri	77.3
41.	South Carolina	77.1
42.	Indiana	77.1
43.	Ohio	77.0
-	Northern Mariana Islands[6]	76.1[6]
44.	Louisiana	76.1
45.	Tennessee	76.0
46.	Oklahoma	76.0
47.	Arkansas	76.0
48.	Kentucky	75.6
49.	Alabama	75.5
50.	Mississippi	74.9
-	American Samoa[6]	74.8[6]
51.	West Virginia	74.8

Edited March 28, 2023 by notsonice

[footeab@yahoo.com + 2,190]

2 hours ago, notsonice said:

California is paying more for energy than any other state aside from Hawaii. ????

who cares....the per capita income in California is one of the highest in the US in the top five behind Hawaii and Wash DC.....

guess the people who work at the power companies get paid more and the suppliers get paid more and the cost of construction is higher well because the the per capita income in California  is higher.......20 percent higher than the average in the US

You earn more and you pay more in California....

 

Remember it is location location location or do you prefer to live in a depressed rust belt city in the middle of nowhere USA????

I will take the beaches in California anyday over some end to the road trailer park in Illinois and will have no problem paying for the higher cost of electricity

again Location Location Location.....no free lunch to live a better life....what is it worth to live 3 years longer than average???????????

who lives longer....... 1.	Hawaii	82.3
2.	California	81.7
3.	New York	81.4
4.	Minnesota	80.9
5.	Connecticut	80.9
6.	Massachusetts	80.6
7	Colorado	80.6
8.	New Jersey	80.5
9.	Washington	80.4
10.	Florida	80.2
11.	Utah	80.1
12.	Arizona	80.0
13.	Oregon	79.9
-	Guam[2]	79.9
14.	Rhode Island	79.8
15.	Vermont	79.8
-	Puerto Rico[2]	79.8
16.	North Dakota	79.7
17.	New Hampshire	79.7
18.	Nebraska	79.6
-	U.S. Virgin Islands[2]	79.6
19.	Virginia	79.5
20.	Wisconsin	79.5
21.	Iowa	79.4
22.	Idaho	79.4
23.	Illinois	79.4
24.	Texas	79.2
25.	Maryland	79.2
26.	Alaska	79.0
27.	District of Columbia	79.0
28.	South Dakota	78.9
29.	Wyoming	78.9
30.	Montana	78.9
-	United States	78.8[5]
31.	Maine	78.7
32.	Nevada	78.7
33.	Kansas	78.5
34.	Delaware	78.5
35.	Pennsylvania	78.4
36.	North Carolina	78.1
37.	New Mexico	78.0
38.	Michigan	78.1
39.	Georgia	77.9
40.	Missouri	77.3
41.	South Carolina	77.1
42.	Indiana	77.1
43.	Ohio	77.0
-	Northern Mariana Islands[6]	76.1[6]
44.	Louisiana	76.1
45.	Tennessee	76.0
46.	Oklahoma	76.0
47.	Arkansas	76.0
48.	Kentucky	75.6
49.	Alabama	75.5
50.	Mississippi	74.9
-	American Samoa[6]	74.8[6]
51.	West Virginia	74.8

Wow, your ignorance is pittiful. 

Life expectancy of each state is identical for each racial sub group regardless of region/state you live in. 

There are a few exceptions, but that is what they are, exceptions(drugs usually). 

Suggest you look up life expectancy by racial group and corresponding BMI.  You will get the real answer for disparity between. 

Give you a hint: For every ~5kg's more you weigh you lose ~1 year of life on average compared to everyone else.

You want to live a long life?  Be short and thin. 

None of which has anything to do with price of electricity.  Rather policy does you pittiful excuse for a human being.

 

[Eyes Wide Open + 3,555]

https://www.rystadenergy.com/news/ev-sales-collapse-as-subsidies-and-tax-credits-come-to-an-abrupt-halt

EV sales collapse as subsidies and tax credits come to an abrupt halt

Edited March 29, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open

[Polyphia + 83]

1 hour ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Wow, your ignorance is pittiful. 

Life expectancy of each state is identical for each racial sub group regardless of region/state you live in. 

There are a few exceptions, but that is what they are, exceptions(drugs usually). 

Suggest you look up life expectancy by racial group and corresponding BMI.  You will get the real answer for disparity between. 

Give you a hint: For every ~5kg's more you weigh you lose ~1 year of life on average compared to everyone else.

You want to live a long life?  Be short and thin. 

None of which has anything to do with price of electricity.  Rather policy does you pittiful excuse for a human being.

 

OK, I looked it up. Life expectancy varies a lot by state, by racial subgroups, and the racial subgroup differences vary by state (an interaction). So where did you get your data? 

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-06-28/which-americans-live-longest-race-region-may-be-key

Some quotations from the article:

"The reasons for the wide variations by state are not clear from this study, which was designed to describe what's going on.

'Our goal here was to give states a benchmark,' Roth said.

But, he noted, many social and health-related policies are set by states, including rules on the Medicaid program that provides health insurance to poor Americans."

-----------

"Many state and local policies, Lee said, could help shape residents' life expectancy -- including those on affordable housing, nutrition assistance, child care, education and criminal justice."

"There are places that are doing better. It is possible," Lee said. "State policies really do have an impact, even if it takes time to see."

---------

Roth agreed that many policies, including ones aimed at aiding young children -- such as nutrition programs and Head Start -- are vital. But he also emphasized the importance of equity in health care.

Roth, a cardiologist, pointed to the example of blood pressure control. Treating high blood pressure with medication can slash the risks of heart attack and stroke -- two major killers in the United States.

----------

"They had enough data to track changes in racial disparities over time within 23 states, for the three largest racial/ethnic groups: Black, white, and Hispanic.

In most of those states, the researchers found, racial disparities narrowed between 1990 and 2019, with the biggest decreases seen in Massachusetts, Connecticut and Oregon. But in seven states, that gap grew among female residents; the same was true for male residents in five states. Missouri topped the list of states with worsening racial disparities."

[notsonice + 1,255]

5 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Wow, your ignorance is pittiful. 

Life expectancy of each state is identical for each racial sub group regardless of region/state you live in. 

There are a few exceptions, but that is what they are, exceptions(drugs usually). 

Suggest you look up life expectancy by racial group and corresponding BMI.  You will get the real answer for disparity between. 

Give you a hint: For every ~5kg's more you weigh you lose ~1 year of life on average compared to everyone else.

You want to live a long life?  Be short and thin. 

None of which has anything to do with price of electricity.  Rather policy does you pittiful excuse for a human being.

 

Shove off loser....

Life expectancy of each state is identical  for each racial sub group regardless of region/state you live in????? what a crock of BS......Whites in California are not as fat as White people in West Virginia....this is the reality

 

Life exectancy in each state is not identical, for each racial sub group regardless of region/state you live indid you not understand the data I presented for all 50 states , quite a range .

 

The best part is the losers in Red States......die younger than the Blue states........Enjoy the thought.....

 

Low cost of living in all of these states below and the lowest life expectancy.............. racial makeup varies quite a bit....but the reality

these states have a lot of low income people regardless of race

 

the worst state West Virginia 92.5 percent white and they lowest life expectancy........nothing but a bunch of fat white whales

Suggest you look up life expectancy by racial group and corresponding BMI??? what a joke....get a brain, moron

Here are some numbers

39. Georgia77.9 

Population
White alone, percent	 59.4%
Black or African American alone, percent(a)	 33.0%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent(a)	 0.5%
Asian alone, percent(a)	 4.6%

40. Missouri77.3 White: 81.29% Black or African American: 11.4% Two or more races: 3.5% Asian: 2.02%

41. South Carolina77.1

42. Indiana77.1   White: 82.28% Black or African American: 9.44% Two or more races: 3.32% Asian: 2.37%

43. Ohio77.0- White: 80.47% Black or African American: 12.36% Two or more races: 3.56% Asian: 2.3%

44. Louisiana76.1 White: 61.25% Black or African American: 32.17% Two or more races: 2.69% Asian: 1.73%

45. Tennessee76.0 

White alone, percent	 78.2%
Black or African American alone, percent(a)	 17.0%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent(a)	 0.5%

46. Oklahoma76.0

47. Arkansas76.0

48. Kentucky75.6

49. Alabama75.5

50. Mississippi

51 . West Virginia74.8 

West Virginia Demographics

• White: 92.52%
• Black or African American: 3.56%
• Two or more races: 2.42%
• Asian: 0.79%
• Other race: 0.51%
• Native American: 0.17%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.03%

Trailer trash, dropouts such as yourself, are unable to understand that life expectancy is higher in areas of the world that cost more to live, including the basics ...like electricity....

 

California costs more to live...and the life expectancy....one of the highest in the US. 

Guess you would not know this as no one in your trailer park has a brain.....

What is the cost to live in West Virginia??? and what is the life expectancy ???? 

 

maybe in your trailer park...cheap living and the life expectancy  ......maybe 70

 

smart people do not live in your neighborhood as they like to keep away from filthy drugged out losers

Worms are smarter than you...

 

Edited March 29, 2023 by notsonice

[notsonice + 1,255]

2 hours ago, Polyphia said:

OK, I looked it up. Life expectancy varies a lot by state, by racial subgroups, and the racial subgroup differences vary by state (an interaction). So where did you get your data? 

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-06-28/which-americans-live-longest-race-region-may-be-key

Some quotations from the article:

"The reasons for the wide variations by state are not clear from this study, which was designed to describe what's going on.

'Our goal here was to give states a benchmark,' Roth said.

But, he noted, many social and health-related policies are set by states, including rules on the Medicaid program that provides health insurance to poor Americans."

-----------

"Many state and local policies, Lee said, could help shape residents' life expectancy -- including those on affordable housing, nutrition assistance, child care, education and criminal justice."

"There are places that are doing better. It is possible," Lee said. "State policies really do have an impact, even if it takes time to see."

---------

Roth agreed that many policies, including ones aimed at aiding young children -- such as nutrition programs and Head Start -- are vital. But he also emphasized the importance of equity in health care.

Roth, a cardiologist, pointed to the example of blood pressure control. Treating high blood pressure with medication can slash the risks of heart attack and stroke -- two major killers in the United States.

----------

"They had enough data to track changes in racial disparities over time within 23 states, for the three largest racial/ethnic groups: Black, white, and Hispanic.

In most of those states, the researchers found, racial disparities narrowed between 1990 and 2019, with the biggest decreases seen in Massachusetts, Connecticut and Oregon. But in seven states, that gap grew among female residents; the same was true for male residents in five states. Missouri topped the list of states with worsening racial disparities."

 

The reality is in states that cost more to live ....people live longer....regardless of racial makeup

and the states that cost more to live also have residents that have obtained higher levels of education

California costs a lot more has a much higher level of education compared to most other states...

Cost of electricity is more in states that cost more to live ..........

 

Location Location Location

Moral of the story.......If you want to live longer do not live in trailer trash red states

 

Edited March 29, 2023 by notsonice

[Ron Wagner + 710]

8 hours ago, notsonice said:

California is paying more for energy than any other state aside from Hawaii. ????

who cares....the per capita income in California is one of the highest in the US in the top five behind Hawaii and Wash DC.....

guess the people who work at the power companies get paid more and the suppliers get paid more and the cost of construction is higher well because the the per capita income in California  is higher.......20 percent higher than the average in the US

You earn more and you pay more in California....

 

Remember it is location location location or do you prefer to live in a depressed rust belt city in the middle of nowhere USA????

I will take the beaches in California anyday over some end to the road trailer park in Illinois and will have no problem paying for the higher cost of electricity

again Location Location Location.....no free lunch to live a better life....what is it worth to live 3 years longer than average???????????

who lives longer....... 1.	Hawaii	82.3
2.	California	81.7
3.	New York	81.4
4.	Minnesota	80.9
5.	Connecticut	80.9
6.	Massachusetts	80.6
7	Colorado	80.6
8.	New Jersey	80.5
9.	Washington	80.4
10.	Florida	80.2
11.	Utah	80.1
12.	Arizona	80.0
13.	Oregon	79.9
-	Guam[2]	79.9
14.	Rhode Island	79.8
15.	Vermont	79.8
-	Puerto Rico[2]	79.8
16.	North Dakota	79.7
17.	New Hampshire	79.7
18.	Nebraska	79.6
-	U.S. Virgin Islands[2]	79.6
19.	Virginia	79.5
20.	Wisconsin	79.5
21.	Iowa	79.4
22.	Idaho	79.4
23.	Illinois	79.4
24.	Texas	79.2
25.	Maryland	79.2
26.	Alaska	79.0
27.	District of Columbia	79.0
28.	South Dakota	78.9
29.	Wyoming	78.9
30.	Montana	78.9
-	United States	78.8[5]
31.	Maine	78.7
32.	Nevada	78.7
33.	Kansas	78.5
34.	Delaware	78.5
35.	Pennsylvania	78.4
36.	North Carolina	78.1
37.	New Mexico	78.0
38.	Michigan	78.1
39.	Georgia	77.9
40.	Missouri	77.3
41.	South Carolina	77.1
42.	Indiana	77.1
43.	Ohio	77.0
-	Northern Mariana Islands[6]	76.1[6]
44.	Louisiana	76.1
45.	Tennessee	76.0
46.	Oklahoma	76.0
47.	Arkansas	76.0
48.	Kentucky	75.6
49.	Alabama	75.5
50.	Mississippi	74.9
-	American Samoa[6]	74.8[6]
51.	West Virginia	74.8

I moved from California to semi-rural Illinois almost 40 years ago. I am nearly 78 and expect to live to about 90 or more, beating all your states. 

[footeab@yahoo.com + 2,190]

27 minutes ago, notsonice said:

Shove off loser....

Life expectancy of each state is identical  for each racial sub group regardless of region/state you live in????? what a crock of BS......Whites in California are not as fat as White people in West Virginia....this is the reality

 

Life exectancy in each state is not identical, for each racial sub group regardless of region/state you live indid you not understand the data I presented for all 50 states , quite a range .

 

The best part is the losers in Red States......die younger than the Blue states........Enjoy the thought.....

 

Low cost of living in all of these states below and the lowest life expectancy.............. racial makeup varies quite a bit....but the reality

these states have a lot of low income people regardless of race

 

the worst state West Virginia 92.5 percent white and they lowest life expectancy........nothing but a bunch of fat white whales

Suggest you look up life expectancy by racial group and corresponding BMI??? what a joke....get a brain, moron

Here are some numbers

39. Georgia77.9 

Population
White alone, percent	 59.4%
Black or African American alone, percent(a)	 33.0%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent(a)	 0.5%
Asian alone, percent(a)	 4.6%

40. Missouri77.3 White: 81.29% Black or African American: 11.4% Two or more races: 3.5% Asian: 2.02%

41. South Carolina77.1

42. Indiana77.1   White: 82.28% Black or African American: 9.44% Two or more races: 3.32% Asian: 2.37%

43. Ohio77.0- White: 80.47% Black or African American: 12.36% Two or more races: 3.56% Asian: 2.3%

44. Louisiana76.1 White: 61.25% Black or African American: 32.17% Two or more races: 2.69% Asian: 1.73%

45. Tennessee76.0 

White alone, percent	 78.2%
Black or African American alone, percent(a)	 17.0%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent(a)	 0.5%

46. Oklahoma76.0

47. Arkansas76.0

48. Kentucky75.6

49. Alabama75.5

50. Mississippi

51 . West Virginia74.8 

West Virginia Demographics

• White: 92.52%
• Black or African American: 3.56%
• Two or more races: 2.42%
• Asian: 0.79%
• Other race: 0.51%
• Native American: 0.17%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.03%

Trailer trash, dropouts such as yourself, are unable to understand that life expectancy is higher in areas of the world that cost more to live, including the basics ...like electricity....

 

California costs more to live...and the life expectancy....one of the highest in the US. 

Guess you would not know this as no one in your trailer park has a brain.....

What is the cost to live in West Virginia??? and what is the life expectancy ???? 

 

maybe in your trailer park...cheap living and the life expectancy  ......maybe 70

 

smart people do not live in your neighborhood as they like to keep away from filthy drugged out losers

Worms are smarter than you...

 

You typed all that BS but refuse to do simple rate math when looking up BMI per state demography... math...

Give ya a hint: its called diet differences.  Fat people regardless of racial identity die younger. 

This isn't rocket science even for the likes of you...

[notsonice + 1,255]

11 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said:

I moved from California to semi-rural Illinois almost 40 years ago. I am nearly 78 and expect to live to about 90 or more, beating all your states. 

 

On average the numbers I presented show that people who live in California live 2.3 years longer than Illinois 

 

Location , Location, Location

 

higher cost of living .......longer life

 

if you still lived in California....95 is possible if you are a healthy 78 year old

Edited March 29, 2023 by notsonice

[notsonice + 1,255]

1 minute ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

You typed all that BS but refuse to do simple rate math when looking up BMI per state demography... math...

Give ya a hint: its called diet differences.  Fat people regardless of racial identity die younger. 

This isn't rocket science even for the likes of you...

you presented nothing...do your own math ...or are you not capable of backing up your own BS

You presented BS and you do not back it up ....as usual

[Polyphia + 83]

7 hours ago, notsonice said:

 

The reality is in states that cost more to live ....people live longer....regardless of racial makeup

and the states that cost more to live also have residents that have obtained higher levels of education

California costs a lot more has a much higher level of education compared to most other states...

Cost of electricity is more in states that cost more to live ..........

 

Location Location Location

Moral of the story.......If you want to live longer do not live in trailer trash red states

 

I wasn't disagreeing with the premise of your post--although I think the issue is more nuanced than location, location, location. In general, I agree with you (and often do).

[Rob Plant + 2,756]

9 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

I moved from California to semi-rural Illinois almost 40 years ago. I am nearly 78 and expect to live to about 90 or more, beating all your states. 

Ron I genuinely hope you live until 90 or more, however most people dont expect to get sick and most think they will live to 90, but dont as the stats bear out!

Everyone dies and everyone knows they will, but weirdly nobody expects to.

Edited March 29, 2023 by Rob Plant

[Ecocharger + 1,474]

On 3/25/2023 at 4:43 PM, turbguy said:

Fossil fuels that contain sulfur (almost all coals do)  will typically emit sulfur oxide compounds in the exhaust gasses, which can effect the pH of precipitation, particularly downwind of the source.

Due to acidification of ponds, lakes, and other effects experienced in the eastern USA from "acidic rain", the EPA placed Oxides of Sulfur under regulation.

An interesting economic impact that effected my State was the sudden "added value" to low sulfur PRB Coal, making it much more marketable to coal fired plants to reduce expenses with controlling sulfur emissions.  Before that legislation, PRB Coals were almost worthless to them, as the heating value of PRB coal (BTU/lb)  was only about 2/3rds of Eastern coals, required very careful handling to minimize dust, and had significantly different ash fusion temperature.

The railroads also made money hand over fist!  I hope you are familiar with that idiom.  If not, google it.

Coal is still king.

[Ecocharger + 1,474]

17 hours ago, notsonice said:

you presented nothing...do your own math ...or are you not capable of backing up your own BS

You presented BS and you do not back it up ....as usual

I have been patiently waiting for you to back something up for a change.

[bloodman33 + 22]

South is getting obliterated by storms created by oil industry climate change.  It is only going to get worse.  I'm excited, and rich from my oil stocks.  Can't wait to donate to AOCs race.  Democrats fight commi Russian loving oil industry defenders. They got my vote.

[bloodman33 + 22]

Oil industry is created more pollen.  People are dying!  Hold them accountable!

[turbguy + 1,544]

4 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

Coal is still king.

Actually, coal's in third place, behind Nat Gas and Nuclear.

Add up the wind, solar and hydro, and they are easily in second place.

EASILY!

 

 

Edited March 30, 2023 by turbguy

[Ron Wagner + 710]

13 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

Ron I genuinely hope you live until 90 or more, however most people dont expect to get sick and most think they will live to 90, but dont as the stats bear out!

Everyone dies and everyone knows they will, but weirdly nobody expects to.

Of course, anyone can die at any time but the older you are the better your odds depending on your present health. All of my organs and blood tests are in excellent shape. I am a retired Psych RN and my wife is an RN Nurse practitioner. We take care of ourselves pretty well. On the other hand, many people avoid medical care and taking care of their health. They bring the averages way down.