bloodman33 + 20 TJ June 22, 2023 The oil industry has killed the planet. You ask why don't I do something. There is nothing to do. Damage has been done. I want the oil companies to be held accountable. Part of that is getting their money. I want money! That's what I want. Why don't I buy a EV. For one I live in an apartment. The oil companies have made humanity dependent on oil. The tipping point is past. The children of the oil executives need to be punished along with the executives. I want their money! That's what I want! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,419 June 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, bloodman33 said: The oil industry has killed the planet. You ask why don't I do something. There is nothing to do. Damage has been done. I want the oil companies to be held accountable. Part of that is getting their money. I want money! That's what I want. Why don't I buy a EV. For one I live in an apartment. The oil companies have made humanity dependent on oil. The tipping point is past. The children of the oil executives need to be punished along with the executives. I want their money! That's what I want! Careful, now. It is actually MONEY that has been at the bottom of this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 649 June 23, 2023 https://dailycaller.com/2023/06/22/here-we-are-five-years-later-jesse-watters-mocks-greta-thunberg-over-deleted-doomsday-prediction-tweet/?utm_medium=push&utm_source=daily_caller&utm_campaign=push ‘Here We Are Five Years Later’: Jesse Watters Mocks Greta Thunberg Over Deleted Doomsday Prediction Tweet Screenshot/Rumble/Fox News HAROLD HUTCHISONREPORTER June 22, 20238:55 PM ET FONT SIZE: Fox News host Jesse Watters mocked environmental activist Greta Thunberg Thursday over her prediction that the world would end if fossil fuels weren’t stopped in five years. Thunberg posted the prediction that the world would end if fossil fuel use wasn’t halted within five years, on June 18, 2023. She deleted the tweet sometime in March. (RELATED: ‘You Can Shove Your Climate Crisis Up Your Arse’: Greta Thunberg Flames Global Climate Summit, Leads ‘Blah Blah Blah’ Chants) “We’re all about to die. You heard that right. The world is ending. It was a hell of a run,” the Fox News host said. “Apparently humanity only has like four and a half hours left until we are all extinct. Nothing we can do about it. Greta Thunberg said so.” “A top climate scientist is warning that climate change will wipe out all of humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels over the next five years,” the deleted tweet read. WATCH: Watters played a video clip of Thunberg’s 2019 rant at a United Nations climate conference. “Five years ago Greta shared this bold prediction, ‘A top climate scientist is warning that climate change will wipe out all of humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels over the next five years,’” Watters said. “Here we are five years later on the day. Sun came up this morning but, like I said, couple hours left. But this isn’t the first time the kid has exaggerated a little.” Police reportedly carried away Thunberg Monday during a protest aiming to disrupt the operation of oil tankers in Sweden. All content created by the Daily Caller News Foundation, an independent and nonpartisan newswire service, is available without charge to any legitimate news publisher that can provide a large audience. All republished articles must include our logo, our reporter’s byline and their DCNF affiliation. For any questions about our guidelines or partnering with us, please contact licensing@dailycallernewsfoundation.org. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 649 June 23, 2023 On 6/13/2023 at 2:19 AM, specinho said: This image below is highly informative... It might also give a hint on how to allow trees to be self sustained amidst city streets... Have been thinking how much energy would it take shall they feed the not moving wind turbines with part of the electricity and let them run despite there is no wind...? Would it be worth it? Or, can they modify the blades to be mechanically incline? For example, old water mill located beside a stream ( shown in a movie) used buckets of water arranged in diagonal arrays as leverage to turn the turbine. Would wind turbine be able to create this leverage i.e. once in the momentum, it would be self sustaining... Do not recall if the buckets were in fixed direction or free moving... The later design could be seen in water park or children play ground where water is spilled from the top into the buckets, creating a force, either when the water is filled or when the water is empty out. Those solar panels... '~' Would it be worth it to use part of the electricity generated to stimulate the jump of electrons? '-' Free sources is probably not really free now, if they want it to work at higher efficiency... 'n' Every cement, asphalt, or gravel road in the world creates heat and the cities of all sizes create heat islands and they have a very strong effect on weather stations and their reported changes used in scientific studies. I have long been a fan of the Arbor Day Society which plants many trees. We have about forty trees on our acre. Six are huge burr oaks. We have dozens of rose of Sharon flowering bushes and others. Learn about The Arbor Day Foundation: https://www.arborday.org/a-tree-can-be/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid-search&utm_campaign=08616-brand&utm_term=arbor day&utm_content=brand&gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4s-kBhDqARIsAN-ipH2gtVF5pbE0nr3VYDSqPxgHq8g0Ot0VJ7kKgjd-ns0he4ZgakN10hQaAqrnEALw_wcB 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,384 DL June 23, 2023 13 hours ago, Rob Plant said: I agree that will take some time but the point is it will reduce and I believe I posted recently that it would be a steady decline from 2025 You mean a decline in the standard of living, I presume. Thanks to irrational climate panic. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,384 DL June 23, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, bloodman33 said: The oil industry has killed the planet. You ask why don't I do something. There is nothing to do. Damage has been done. I want the oil companies to be held accountable. Part of that is getting their money. I want money! That's what I want. Why don't I buy a EV. For one I live in an apartment. The oil companies have made humanity dependent on oil. The tipping point is past. The children of the oil executives need to be punished along with the executives. I want their money! That's what I want! I want you to use your brain for a change....then we can talk. You made yourself dependent on oil and a fossil fuel car with your purchases...that was rational then and it is still rational. Edited June 23, 2023 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 649 June 23, 2023 On 6/14/2023 at 5:19 AM, notsonice said: RENEWABLE ENERGY In a First, Wind and Solar Generated More Power Than Coal in U.S. Wind and solar produced more U.S. power than coal during the first five months of this year, as several coal plants closed and gas prices dropped By Benjamin Storrow, E&E News on June 12, 2023 Solar panels energy in a California desert at sunset with mountains in the background. Credit: thinkreaction/Getty Images CLIMATEWIRE | Wind and solar generated more electricity than coal through May, an E&E News review of federal data shows, marking the first time renewables have outpaced the former king of American power over a five-month period. The milestone illustrates the ongoing transformation of the U.S. power sector as the nation races to install cleaner forms of energy to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from fossil fuels. Power markets have witnessed a precipitous drop in coal-fired generation this year, driven by low natural gas prices, a mild winter and a wave of coal plant retirements. “From a coal perspective, it has been a disaster,” said Andy Blumenfeld, an analyst who tracks the industry at McCloskey by OPIS. “The decline is happening faster than anyone anticipated.” Renewable energy generation exceeded coal-fired power in 2020 and 2022, but only when hydropower was counted as a source of renewable energy, according to figures compiled by the U.S. Energy Information Administration. This year has been different. Wind and solar sources generated a combined 252 terawatt-hours through the first five months of 2023, compared with coal output of 249 TWh, EIA data shows. Hydro generated an additional 117 TWh through May. EIA’s numbers for April and May are preliminary, said Chris Higginbotham, an agency spokesperson. “Our official estimates from the Electric Power Monthly show that combined electricity generation from wind and solar exceeded generation from coal in January, February and March,” he said. “Our real-time data, which is subject to revision, indicate that trend continued in April and May.” Coal generated almost half of the country’s electricity as recently as 2008. It has been in steady decline ever since, as a wave of older coal facilities retired and were replaced by a combination of natural gas and renewables. Yet even by that standard, coal’s sudden drop in 2023 has been remarkable. The beleaguered industry experienced something of a reprieve last year. A spike in natural gas prices, driven by a strong economy and surging energy demand in Europe, where gas markets were thrown into flux by Russia's war in Ukraine, left utilities scrambling for coal. Many signed contracts to purchase coal at elevated prices in 2022, said Blumenfeld, the OPIS analyst. Energy markets have swung in the other direction since then. A relatively mild winter and a slowing U.S. economy has pushed electricity demand down 3 percent this year. Natural gas production has continued to climb. The result has been a glut of gas followed by low prices. Henry Hub, the national benchmark for gas prices, averaged $2.15 cents per million British thermal units in May, down from a high of $8.81 in August 2022. Coal plants will have difficulty competing against gas in that market, analysts said. But structural factors have also contributed to the fall in coal output. The U.S. has retired around 14 gigawatts of coal capacity, or roughly 7 percent of the coal fleet, since the start of 2022. While coal was declining, wind and solar have been growing by leaps and bounds. Power companies added 22.5 GW of wind and solar capacity in the 12 months ending in May, EIA reported last week. Gas, meanwhile, has continued to grow. The result has been a crash in coal generation. EIA figures show that coal was down 27 percent compared with the same time last year and below levels recorded in 2020, when the Covid-19 pandemic shut down large parts of the economy. “I don’t think it’s too shocking those shares of generation paths are crossing,” said Harrison Fell, a researcher at Columbia University. “The writing has been on the wall for coal for a while. There are a lot of incentives to build renewables, and really only delays with interconnections are really holding them back.” The rapid retirement of fossil fuels has prompted growing debate about the reliability of the country’s web of power grids. In recent testimony to Senate lawmakers, North American Electric Reliability Corp. CEO Jim Robb said, “The pace of change is overtaking the reliability needs of the system.” Others said those worries could be eased by unclogging a bottleneck that's preventing clean energy projects from connecting to the grid. “My opinion is we are not at the point of hurting reliability at this point. There are so many things that can be done on the demand side and the generation side to maintain reliability,” said Metin Celebi, an analyst who tracks the industry at the Brattle Group. “But there is this concern that capacity is not coming online fast enough, not because it isn’t economic, but because the interconnection process is really clogged at this time.” The decline in coal generation is a boost to U.S. climate efforts. Coal accounted for 55 percent of power sector emissions in 2022, according to EPA data, despite representing just 20 percent of total power generation. Carbon Monitor, an emissions tracker run by academics, estimates U.S. emissions were down 5.6 percent through April compared with the same time in 2022. Power sector emissions were down by nearly 1 percent. This story also appears in Energywire. Reprinted from E&E News with permission from POLITICO, LLC. Copyright 2023. E&E News provides essential news for energy and environment professionals. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-13/us-electricity-prices-rise-most-in-41-years-as-inflation-endures#xj4y7vzkg US Power Prices Rise Most in 41 Years as Inflation Endures Electricity-price rise of 15.8% is highest since August 1981 Total energy index slipped 5% from July, led by gasoline bills By Naureen S Malik September 13, 2022 at 8:14 AM CDTUpdated onSeptember 13, 2022 at 9:34 AM CDT Share this article 52,000 Million metric tons of greenhouse emissions, most recent annual data +0.97° C May. 2023 increase in global temperature vs. 1900s average 36% Carbon-free net power in the U.S., most recent data Vereeniging, South Africa Most polluted air today, in sensor range -7.95% Today's arctic ice area vs. historic average Open August electricity bills for US consumers jumped the most since 1981, gaining 15.8% from the same period a year ago, according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. Natural gas bills, which crept back up last month after dipping in July, surged 33% from the same month last year, labor data released Tuesday showed. Broader energy costs slipped for a second consecutive month because of lower gasoline and fuel oil prices. Even with that drop, total energy costs were still about 24% above August 2021 levels. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,384 DL June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Ron Wagner said: Every cement, asphalt, or gravel road in the world creates heat and the cities of all sizes create heat islands and they have a very strong effect on weather stations and their reported changes used in scientific studies. I have long been a fan of the Arbor Day Society which plants many trees. We have about forty trees on our acre. Six are huge burr oaks. We have dozens of rose of Sharon flowering bushes and others. Learn about The Arbor Day Foundation: https://www.arborday.org/a-tree-can-be/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid-search&utm_campaign=08616-brand&utm_term=arbor day&utm_content=brand&gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4s-kBhDqARIsAN-ipH2gtVF5pbE0nr3VYDSqPxgHq8g0Ot0VJ7kKgjd-ns0he4ZgakN10hQaAqrnEALw_wcB We need some more CO2 on this planet to keep your trees green. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloodman33 + 20 TJ June 23, 2023 LOL. The oil industry is activity lied and tried to distract the public from the damage they were doing. They are guilty! Without this, we would be 20 years ahead in implementing green solutions. They are guilty! I want their money. I want Ecochargers money too!. Oil reparations now!!! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,384 DL June 23, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, bloodman33 said: LOL. The oil industry is activity lied and tried to distract the public from the damage they were doing. They are guilty! Without this, we would be 20 years ahead in implementing green solutions. They are guilty! I want their money. I want Ecochargers money too!. Oil reparations now!!! Start by apologizing for driving a fossil fuel vehicle. On your knees. I forgive you. Big Brother forgives you. Then start reading the actual science and learn something. Then read Orwell's "1984". Winston. Edited June 23, 2023 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,097 DM June 23, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ecocharger said: You mean a decline in the standard of living, I presume. Thanks to irrational climate panic. a decline in the standard of living??? Kentucky is the winner and they bet on a coal economy now for reality....renewables are driving the price of electricity down and at the same time everyones standard of living gets better.......Less pollution means a better standard of living...IE better health and longer lives Yahoo News Record solar slashes wholesale energy prices, emissions Record rooftop solar generation is cutting wholesale energy costs and taking pressure off the national electricity grid, the latest data... . Apr 27, 2023 Yale E360 In Australia, a Surge in Renewables Drives Down Power Prices At one point in March, renewables briefly supplied two-thirds of Australia's power, according to the grid operator, which says that the... . Apr 28, 2023 The Guardian Weather tracker: power prices dip to negative in Europe amid clean energy boost Over the last week, several European countries had power prices in the wholesale energy market dip into negative values during daylight... . 3 weeks ago Edited June 23, 2023 by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,652 RP June 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Ecocharger said: You mean a decline in the standard of living, I presume. Thanks to irrational climate panic. no i mean a decline in pollution Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,315 RG June 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Ecocharger said: You mean a decline in the standard of living, I presume. Thanks to irrational climate panic. Every year the world wide rate in poverty goes down. Or does the standard of living for the poor count. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,315 RG June 23, 2023 9 hours ago, Ecocharger said: We need some more CO2 on this planet to keep your trees green. C02 disrupts water flows and kills trees. When the reservoirs and water tables disappear buy an rv and a gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,315 RG June 23, 2023 On 6/19/2023 at 8:42 PM, Jay McKinsey said: The batteries are almost all 4 hour duration. Don’t they need to be 6-8 hr batteries in the summer and 24 hr batteries for a several day storm like Texas? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 June 23, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Boat said: Don’t they need to be 6-8 hr batteries in the summer and 24 hr batteries for a several day storm like Texas? 4 hours gets us through the evening peak from 5 till 9 when solar drops off but it is still hot as hell. We are in the process of developing 8 hour and longer batteries for the next stage. The California Energy Commission has chosen Redflow to build a 20 MWh flow battery storage system near the town of Corning. Building on the success of a 2 MWh flow battery system it installed in California over a year ago, the company has now been selected to supply a 20 MWh system The Redflow ZBM3 batteries can supply power for up to 12 hours. The projects represent a key step to help California meet its estimated need for up to 55 GWh of long duration energy storage by 2045 in order to support grid reliability and the state’s clean energy transition targets. Edited June 23, 2023 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloodman33 + 20 TJ June 23, 2023 Ecocharger, I don't care about reading anything. The oil industry is guilty and so is your lying butt. I am coming for you money and the oil industries money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,384 DL June 23, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, notsonice said: a decline in the standard of living??? Kentucky is the winner and they bet on a coal economy now for reality....renewables are driving the price of electricity down and at the same time everyones standard of living gets better.......Less pollution means a better standard of living...IE better health and longer lives Yahoo News Record solar slashes wholesale energy prices, emissions Record rooftop solar generation is cutting wholesale energy costs and taking pressure off the national electricity grid, the latest data... . Apr 27, 2023 Yale E360 In Australia, a Surge in Renewables Drives Down Power Prices At one point in March, renewables briefly supplied two-thirds of Australia's power, according to the grid operator, which says that the... . Apr 28, 2023 The Guardian Weather tracker: power prices dip to negative in Europe amid clean energy boost Over the last week, several European countries had power prices in the wholesale energy market dip into negative values during daylight... . 3 weeks ago You have to measure total cost, not final consumer cost. Edited June 23, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,384 DL June 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Rob Plant said: no i mean a decline in pollution Pollution? Like what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,384 DL June 23, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: 4 hours gets us through the evening peak from 5 till 9 when solar drops off but it is still hot as hell. We are in the process of developing 8 hour and longer batteries for the next stage. The California Energy Commission has chosen Redflow to build a 20 MWh flow battery storage system near the town of Corning. Building on the success of a 2 MWh flow battery system it installed in California over a year ago, the company has now been selected to supply a 20 MWh system The Redflow ZBM3 batteries can supply power for up to 12 hours. The projects represent a key step to help California meet its estimated need for up to 55 GWh of long duration energy storage by 2045 in order to support grid reliability and the state’s clean energy transition targets. The Price Tag, please, how much? You like to dodge the final question. From the post above. "August electricity bills for US consumers jumped the most since 1981, gaining 15.8% from the same period a year ago, according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. Natural gas bills, which crept back up last month after dipping in July, surged 33% from the same month last year, labor data released Tuesday showed. Broader energy costs slipped for a second consecutive month because of lower gasoline and fuel oil prices. Even with that drop, total energy costs were still about 24% above August 2021 levels." Edited June 23, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,384 DL June 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, bloodman33 said: Ecocharger, I don't care about reading anything. The oil industry is guilty and so is your lying butt. I am coming for you money and the oil industries money. Get down on your knees and plead for forgiveness for purchasing a fossil fuel car. Big Brother will forgive you. Learn something about climate change before expressing an opinion. Nice quote from you, "I am coming for YOU, money!" If you are going after money, it is better not to warn money in advance, or else money will escape your search. Edited June 23, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,384 DL June 23, 2023 (edited) Here is what happens when a state depends too much on green electricity. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/environment-and-energy/bitcoin-miners-went-dark-as-texas-power-grid-teetered-on-brink "Bitcoin miners in Texas curbed operations, crimping power usage, as a heat wave drove electricity prices sky-high Tuesday and threatened to cripple the grid in the second-largest US state. The extent of the intentional shutdown and the amount of power conserved for other uses — such as residential air conditioners, medical centers and municipal water systems — was not yet immediately clear. But the curtailments were confirmed by industry participants and grid manager the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, or Ercot." Edited June 23, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 June 23, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: The Price Tag, please, how much? You like to dodge the final question. From the post above. "August electricity bills for US consumers jumped the most since 1981, gaining 15.8% from the same period a year ago, according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. Natural gas bills, which crept back up last month after dipping in July, surged 33% from the same month last year, labor data released Tuesday showed. Broader energy costs slipped for a second consecutive month because of lower gasoline and fuel oil prices. Even with that drop, total energy costs were still about 24% above August 2021 levels." $11.9 million for Redflow https://www.utilitydive.com/news/redflow-california-energy-commission-cec-zinc-bromine-flow-batteries-Paskenta/651912/ A great investment in R&D of this battery tech. Edited June 23, 2023 by Jay McKinsey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 June 23, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: Here is what happens when a state depends too much on green electricity. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/environment-and-energy/bitcoin-miners-went-dark-as-texas-power-grid-teetered-on-brink "Bitcoin miners in Texas curbed operations, crimping power usage, as a heat wave drove electricity prices sky-high Tuesday and threatened to cripple the grid in the second-largest US state. The extent of the intentional shutdown and the amount of power conserved for other uses — such as residential air conditioners, medical centers and municipal water systems — was not yet immediately clear. But the curtailments were confirmed by industry participants and grid manager the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, or Ercot." Bitcoin is a plague on society, a ponzi scheme created by idiot Austrian anarcho capitalists. It needs to be outlawed as it is very expensive and provides no value to society. But with the build out of solar in Texas they soon will have no issues with summer heat waves. Deep red Texas is going green! Texas solar boom turns to battery dash By Eduardo Garcia March 15, 20238:27 AM PDTUpdated 3 months ago March 15 - Texas will continue to lead U.S. solar growth in the coming years as tax incentives in President Biden's Inflation Reduction Act accelerate activity nationwide. The U.S. Energy Information Administration predicts Texas will install 7.7 GW of solar this year, a quarter of all U.S. installations. Some 36 GW in new capacity is expected in Texas in the next five years, according to the U.S. Solar Energy Industry Association (SEIA). At the start of 2022, only 27% of all solar projects in the Texas grid connection queue were coupled with storage and by the end of the year this had risen to 42%, Edited June 23, 2023 by Jay McKinsey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,550 June 23, 2023 2 hours ago, bloodman33 said: Ecocharger, I don't care about reading anything. The oil industry is guilty and so is your lying butt. I am coming for you money and the oil industries money. Ya Don't Say.... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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