GREEN NEW DEAL = BLIZZARD OF LIES

[Ecocharger + 1,384]

11 minutes ago, TailingsPond said:

You've never committed a crime yourself?  Apples don't fall far from trees.

We were young and stupid too.

No, not like that.

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14 minutes ago, TailingsPond said:

Speeding is far more likely to cause injury, death, and property damage than shoplifting.  Yet the wealthy -who can pay tickets easily- downplay it.

You never speed in your gas guzzler?

Once, going 40 in a 30 zone, a minor infringement caught by a waiting policeman on a downslope. Another occasion I got measured by a waiting policeman in the same type of situation, but I braked before he clicked the measurement gun and he waved me on when I tried to pull over to get the ticket, he called out "You're lucky!"

You comparing that to violent break and enter? 

Edited August 27, 2023 by Ecocharger

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1 minute ago, Ecocharger said:

No, not like that.

I've done a good portion of this list! haha.  I got one ticket for public intoxication.

Depending on the jurisdiction, examples of misdemeanors may include: petty theft, prostitution, public intoxication, simple assault, disorderly conduct, trespass, shoplifting, vandalism, reckless driving, indecent exposure, and possession of cannabis for personal use.

[Ecocharger + 1,384]

2 minutes ago, TailingsPond said:

I've done a good portion of this list! haha.  I got one ticket for public intoxication.

Depending on the jurisdiction, examples of misdemeanors may include: petty theft, prostitution, public intoxication, simple assault, disorderly conduct, trespass, shoplifting, vandalism, reckless driving, indecent exposure, and possession of cannabis for personal use.

I don't see violent looting on that list, but it looks like they are scaling back in California and forbidding anyone from interfering with a violent looting in progress.

Up the Revolution!

Edited August 27, 2023 by Ecocharger

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1 minute ago, Ecocharger said:

 

You comparing that to violent break and enter? 

Violent B&E wasn't on that list of changes.  So no. 

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3 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

I don't see violent looting on that list, but it looks like they are scaling back in California and forbidding anyone from interfering with a violent looting in progress.

Up the Revolution!

Vigilantism has long been frowned upon.  Report the crime.

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8 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Speeding is far more likely to cause injury, death, and property damage than shoplifting.  Yet the wealthy -who can pay tickets easily- downplay it.

You never speed in your gas guzzler?

Sounds like you have experienced a very troubled childhood, or unable to take direction. I assume both run deep in your personality.

Edited August 27, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open

[Ecocharger + 1,384]

Here is the epitome of self-destructive energy policy in a panic-driven mindless rush to help the Climate.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Will-Shapiros-Energy-Strategy-Plunge-Pennsylvania-Into-Darkness.html

"“Here in the Commonwealth, we are embracing the advantages that cheaper, lower carbon fuel sources offer,” Shapiro wrote in a letter to the management of PJM Interconnection, the non-profit which maintains the electric grid for Pennsylvania and a dozen other states.

The governor was referring to wind and solar power, which aren’t cheaper than traditional fossil fuel plants and can, in some cases, increase overall carbon emissions. In short, they add costs for consumers and undermine reliability. This scenario has played out dramatically in places like Europe and California, where power outages and soaring prices are undisputed facts."

Edited August 28, 2023 by Ecocharger

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25 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

In short, they add costs for consumers and undermine reliability. This scenario has played out dramatically in places like Europe and California, where power outages and soaring prices are undisputed facts."

Substantibiity at it finest..a world mired in debt and chaos. This blind arrogance is stunning.

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Surged to Record $7 Trillion

Scaling back subsidies would reduce air pollution, generate revenue, and make a major contribution to slowing climate change

 

https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2023/08/24/fossil-fuel-subsidies-surged-to-record-7-trillion

Edited August 28, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open

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47 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Substantibiity at it finest..a world mired in debt and chaos. This blind arrogance is stunning.

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Surged to Record $7 Trillion

Scaling back subsidies would reduce air pollution, generate revenue, and make a major contribution to slowing climate change

 

https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2023/08/24/fossil-fuel-subsidies-surged-to-record-7-trillion

You don't understand your own posts!

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Too funny! 

"Fossil-fuel subsidies surged to a record $7 trillion last year as governments supported consumers and businesses during the global spike in energy prices caused by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the economic recovery from the pandemic."

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Come on people, give the blind guy some razing for his complete stupidity!

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1 hour ago, TailingsPond said:

Too funny! 

"Fossil-fuel subsidies surged to a record $7 trillion last year as governments supported consumers and businesses during the global spike in energy prices caused by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the economic recovery from the pandemic."

Oh I read it quite well..7 trillion in subsides..The sheer obfuscation is beyond reasoning. Startling to its very core. Desperation last call..7 Trillion must be messaging from the Biden admin.

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1 hour ago, TailingsPond said:

Come on people, give the blind guy some razing for his complete stupidity!

Looks like you missed the point.

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22 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

Looks like you missed the point.

You love government fossil fuel subsidies.  Yet say things like this:

"That is how the economy works, friend, if an industry fails in one location putting hard-earned tax dollars into subsidizing it in the wrong location is a waste of money."

 

Let the industry fail yet again...

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On 8/27/2023 at 6:51 PM, Eyes Wide Open said:

Substantibiity at it finest..a world mired in debt and chaos. This blind arrogance is stunning.

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Surged to Record $7 Trillion

Scaling back subsidies would reduce air pollution, generate revenue, and make a major contribution to slowing climate change

 

https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2023/08/24/fossil-fuel-subsidies-surged-to-record-7-trillion

a world mired in debt and chaos....yep and now we know where it is all wasted on...........the article did not even mention how much spent on militaries to protect all the oil assets...What do you think US? 300 ...? 400? billion a year in the US  for the past 20 years just for the Middle East???

and not a penny on safeguarding the wind or sun........

 

Wars have been fought over oil yet none for the sun........

 

 

The IISD said it had calculated that the world's 20 largest economies had spent a record-breaking $1.4 trillion on state support for the coal, oil and gas industry in 2022. The author of the calculations, Tara Laan, said, "These figures are a stark reminder of the massive amounts of public money G20 governments continue to pour into fossil fuels--despite the increasingly devastating impacts of climate change." 

 

 

 

Edited August 29, 2023 by notsonice

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On 8/27/2023 at 8:57 PM, Eyes Wide Open said:

Oh I read it quite well..7 trillion in subsides..The sheer obfuscation is beyond reasoning. Startling to its very core. Desperation last call..7 Trillion must be messaging from the Biden admin.

messaging from the Biden admin???? you drunk again?????

Sleepy Joe sold SPR oil to bring the price of oil down which reduced subsidies....

He is your savoir , enjoy the thought

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On 8/24/2023 at 11:13 AM, Rob Plant said:

All we hear about are subsidies for renewables and EV's, this article may wake a few people up.

G20 Fossil Fuel Subsidies Exceed $1 Trillion Since COP26

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/G20-Fossil-Fuel-Subsidies-Exceed-1-Trillion-Since-COP26.html

This ones just for you @ronwagn

Global Fossil Fuel Subsidies Skyrocket To $7 Trillion

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Global-Fossil-Fuel-Subsidies-Skyrocket-To-7-Trillion.html

Cant wait for the downvote 😄

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53 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

This ones just for you @ronwagn

Global Fossil Fuel Subsidies Skyrocket To $7 Trillion

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Global-Fossil-Fuel-Subsidies-Skyrocket-To-7-Trillion.html

Cant wait for the downvote 😄

You like science fiction, I see? You just located some good stuff there.

Edited August 29, 2023 by Ecocharger

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3 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

You like science fiction, I see? You just located some good stuff there.

That is not science fiction... all it shows is the fool never READ the article past the title utterly clowning himself🤡👍

[Ecocharger + 1,384]

Inventories call the tune in markets, signaling the need for production increases or decreases.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Surprise-Crash-In-Crude-Inventories-Sends-Oil-Prices-Higher.html

"The American Petroleum Institute (API) has reported a massive 11.486-million-barrel draw in U.S. crude inventories, compared with the previous week's 2.418-million-barrel draw as the markets weigh China's economic activity against U.S. crude inventories.

Analysts were expecting an inventory draw of 2.9 million barrels for the week."

Edited August 30, 2023 by Ecocharger

[Rob Plant + 2,652]

12 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

That is not science fiction... all it shows is the fool never READ the article past the title utterly clowning himself🤡👍

[Ecocharger + 1,384]

7 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

You seem to be Euro-centric in your orientation. There are fossil fuel coal/oil demand drivers outside Europe.

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1 hour ago, Ecocharger said:

You seem to be Euro-centric in your orientation. There are fossil fuel coal/oil demand drivers outside Europe.

Yeah, mostly poor, unethical, and highly polluted nations.

Perhaps set your standards higher than China, India or developing nations?  Or should we mimic the poor because it is most cost effective? 

If you wish to live in filth you could always move.  Clearly -with your vast knowledge of economics- you are profoundly wealthy, you could essentially buy some peasants!

 

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2 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Yeah, mostly poor, unethical, and highly polluted nations.

Perhaps set your standards higher than China, India or developing nations?  Or should we mimic the poor because it is most cost effective? 

If you wish to live in filth you could always move.  Clearly -with your vast knowledge of economics- you are profoundly wealthy, you could essentially buy some peasants!

 

California is not the leader in any transition, no one seems to be following the lead they have given on EVs,

https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/what-percent-of-us-car-sales-are-electric

"Electric vehicles account for less than 1% of the 250 million vehicles, SUVs, and light-duty trucks sold in the United States. Because only around 17 million new cars are being built each year, changing the vehicles from gas-powered to electric will be a long process, especially as far as the government is concerned."