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2 hours ago, Polyphia said:

If it fits their narrative, no need to look any further.

He let the truth out before he could filter himself.

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2 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

 

Only because of the stupidity that monetary policy was needed when it was a supply shock that caused the inflation. But you previously stated we were already in a recession. Now you claim the recession is looming. So which is it??   You obviously do not know what you even claim to be talking about. 

My god your article even says the manufacturing downturn is coming to a close.

How are diesel prices responding? Let's take a look.

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They are falling fast. 

And of course I will no doubt have to explain this multiple times again to your morons but diesel is traded as heating oil as it is now the same thing. Some now call it heating oil and some call it diesel.

NYMEX Heating Oil Completes Transition to Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel

As of yesterday, NYMEX heating oil futures and options are now ultra low sulfur diesel fuel (ULSD) futures and options.  The transition is a long time in the making as the CME first announced the transition back in June of 2011.  At that time, the exchange planned to delist heating oil futures and options and to replace them with ULSD futures and options.  However, last May, the exchange announced that rather than delisting the heating oil contracts, they would transition the existing heating oil contracts to ULSD contracts.

 

 

 

Jay, oil and diesel prices fluctuate wildly in the short term, do not read anything much in that.

There is more recession ahead to be seen from the monetary restrictions, hold on to your floppy hat.

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1 hour ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Due to the cost of fossil fuels you imbecile. And of course that article is from last summer because you are an imbecile who does not understand how anything works.

Jay, your expostulations are becoming increasingly out of control.

Get some help.

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53 minutes ago, notsonice said:

Searing Heat????? thanks for adding to evidence of Global Warming caused by the burning of fossil fuels

Texas deserts and heat waves? Imagine that....LMAO 

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On 12/6/2023 at 6:12 AM, TailingsPond said:

In your fantasy.  Here is recap from him.

https://www.cop28.com/en/news/2023/12/COP28-President-recaps-key-wins-from-first-four-days-of-COP28

"Allow me to use this opportunity to bring everyone up to speed on what has been achieved thus far, and in particular in the past three and a half days of COP28. And before I begin, let's remember why we're all here.

We're all here because we made a very clear call to action, and we've been very upfront about it. And we said clearly and repeatedly that the UAE takes this task with humility, responsibility, and we fully understand the urgency behind this matter. And we're here because we very much believe and respect the science.

43% of global emissions must be reduced by 2030. That is 22 gigatons by 2030 and we need to make that happen to keep 1.5 within reach. And I have been crystal clear on the fact that that is a critical success factor if we want to keep 1.5 within reach. Let me say from the outset that everything this presidency has been working on, and continues to work on, is focused on and centered around the science."

Did he say how would 43% of global emission be reduced??

Cutting size of population through breeding habits?

Cutting back massive development projects?

Cutting damaging impact of wild forest fire each year?

Are you still thinking on "stop burning fossil fuel", " drive EV"   and " plant trees" only? 'o'

 

 

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1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Texas deserts and heat waves? Imagine that....LMAO 

 

1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Texas deserts and heat waves? Imagine that....LMAO 

Imagine that....LMAO ?????

what are you laughing at??? yourself for posting garbage again????

try to stay on the topic and try to understand what is being discussed.......We all can see you bounce all over the place

Texas deserts and heat waves????????

 

next time you are in Texas when it is 107 in Dallas try to convince a Texan that 107 degrees is normal in Dallas and that Dallas is a desert.....

 

the article you reference is discussing the fact  it was 107 degrees in Dallas

When did Dallas become located in  a Desert??????? sober up for a change

Dallas is located in North Texas It has a humid subtropical climate (Köppen climate classification: Cfa)

Dallas, Texas gets 39 inches of rain, on average, per year. The US average is 38 inches of rain per year. Dallas averages 1 inches of snow per year.
 
Dallas is located in a desert??????? 

Jay got it right defining you as an imbecile 

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Under the guidance of President Biden, America has become the world oil giant, both producing and consuming more oil than any other country.

Hail the Age of Oil in America! Thank you, Mr. President!

https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/oil-consumption-by-country/#:~:text=The U.S. is currently both,in the map and charts.

"The U.S. is currently both the largest producer and the largest consumer of crude oil in the world,"

                                              consumption                   reserves                 production                  imports

# Country Oil Consumption Oil Reserves Crude Oil Production US Crude Oil Imports
1 United States of America 19,690,000 Mbbl/d 68,800 MMbbl 17,924.2 MMbbl/d  
2 People's Republic of China 11,750,000 Mbbl/d 26,000 MMbbl 4,712.2 MMbbl/d 3 Mbbl/d
3 India 4,489,000 Mbbl/d 4,500 MMbbl 771.4 MMbbl/d 100 Mbbl/d
4 Japan 4,026,000 Mbbl/d   10.2 MMbbl/d 20 Mbbl/d
5 Russia 3,594,000 Mbbl/d 107,800 MMbbl 10,749.5 MMbbl/d 672 Mbbl/d
6 Saudi Arabia 3,237,000 Mbbl/d 297,500 MMbbl 10,815.7 MMbbl/d 430 Mbbl/d
7 Brazil 3,018,000 Mbbl/d 11,900 MMbbl 3,629.1 MMbbl/d 143 Mbbl/d
8 South Korea 2,630,000 Mbbl/d   37.4 MMbbl/d 134 Mbbl/d
9 Germany 2,410,000 Mbbl/d   135 MMbbl/d 8 Mbbl/d
10 Canada 2,379,000 Mbbl/d 168,100 MMbbl 5,468.1 MMbbl/d 4,340 Mbbl/d
11 Mexico 2,027,000 Mbbl/d 6,100 MMbbl 1,905.5 MMbbl/d 711 Mbbl/d
12 Iran 1,922,000 Mbbl/d 157,800 MMbbl 3,450.3 MMbbl/d 3 Mbbl/d
13 France 1,661,000 Mbbl/d   81.5 MMbbl/d 31 Mbbl/d
14 Indonesia 1,615,000 Mbbl/d 2,400 MMbbl 842.3 MMbbl/d 4 Mbbl/d
15 United Kingdom 1,586,000 Mbbl/d 2,500 MMbbl 890.4 MMbbl/d 104 Mbbl/d
16 Singapore 1,582,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d 32 Mbbl/d
17 Spain 1,287,000 Mbbl/d   47.2 MMbbl/d 29 Mbbl/d
18 Thailand 1,272,000 Mbbl/d 300 MMbbl 438.2 MMbbl/d  
19 Italy 1,253,000 Mbbl/d 600 MMbbl 107.7 MMbbl/d 48 Mbbl/d
20 Australia 1,100,000 Mbbl/d 2,400 MMbbl 441.5 MMbbl/d  
21 Netherlands 973,000 Mbbl/d   76.1 MMbbl/d 126 Mbbl/d
22 Taiwan 955,300 Mbbl/d   0.8 MMbbl/d 9 Mbbl/d
23 Turkey 943,700 Mbbl/d   4 MMbbl/d 40 Mbbl/d
24 United Arab Emirates 901,000 Mbbl/d 97,800 MMbbl 3,769.1 MMbbl/d 40 Mbbl/d
25 Iraq 850,000 Mbbl/d 145,000 MMbbl 4,161.5 MMbbl/d 157 Mbbl/d
26 Argentina 803,000 Mbbl/d 2,500 MMbbl 690.2 MMbbl/d 38 Mbbl/d
27 Egypt 802,000 Mbbl/d 3,100 MMbbl 660.8 MMbbl/d 32 Mbbl/d
28 Malaysia 760,000 Mbbl/d 2,700 MMbbl 593.8 MMbbl/d 5 Mbbl/d
29 Venezuela 747,000 Mbbl/d 303,800 MMbbl 604.8 MMbbl/d  
30 Belgium 662,400 Mbbl/d   11.4 MMbbl/d 40 Mbbl/d
31 South Africa 660,000 Mbbl/d   97.9 MMbbl/d 0 Mbbl/d
32 Poland 578,200 Mbbl/d   28.4 MMbbl/d 2 Mbbl/d
33 Pakistan 517,000 Mbbl/d   100.7 MMbbl/d  
34 Kuwait 500,000 Mbbl/d 101,500 MMbbl 2,720.5 MMbbl/d 33 Mbbl/d
35 Philippines 455,500 Mbbl/d   10.3 MMbbl/d  
36 Algeria 428,000 Mbbl/d 12,200 MMbbl 1,414.8 MMbbl/d 40 Mbbl/d
37 Vietnam 422,000 Mbbl/d 4,400 MMbbl 197.7 MMbbl/d  
38 Hong Kong 388,500 Mbbl/d   0.1 MMbbl/d  
39 Colombia 345,000 Mbbl/d 2,000 MMbbl 756.4 MMbbl/d 203 Mbbl/d
40 Chile 337,400 Mbbl/d   11.9 MMbbl/d 2 Mbbl/d
41 Sweden 320,200 Mbbl/d   10.6 MMbbl/d 17 Mbbl/d
42 Nigeria 316,000 Mbbl/d 36,900 MMbbl 1,646.9 MMbbl/d 125 Mbbl/d
43 Greece 299,600 Mbbl/d   4.8 MMbbl/d 0 Mbbl/d
44 Morocco 286,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
45 Qatar 280,000 Mbbl/d 25,200 MMbbl 1,815.1 MMbbl/d 22 Mbbl/d
46 Ecuador 274,000 Mbbl/d 1,300 MMbbl 478 MMbbl/d 168 Mbbl/d
47 Austria 267,500 Mbbl/d   20.1 MMbbl/d  
48 Libya 262,000 Mbbl/d 48,400 MMbbl 1,252.8 MMbbl/d 91 Mbbl/d
49 Ukraine 248,000 Mbbl/d   57.7 MMbbl/d 0 Mbbl/d
50 Peru 240,000 Mbbl/d 700 MMbbl 122.5 MMbbl/d 10 Mbbl/d
51 Portugal 234,700 Mbbl/d   8 MMbbl/d 29 Mbbl/d
52 Norway 227,700 Mbbl/d 7,900 MMbbl 2,026 MMbbl/d 72 Mbbl/d
53 Switzerland 217,400 Mbbl/d   0.3 MMbbl/d 1 Mbbl/d
54 Finland 200,700 Mbbl/d   8.3 MMbbl/d 21 Mbbl/d
55 Israel 199,900 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d 1 Mbbl/d
56 Kazakhstan 186,300 Mbbl/d 30,000 MMbbl 1,864.9 MMbbl/d 33 Mbbl/d
57 Romania 182,000 Mbbl/d 600 MMbbl 74 MMbbl/d 1 Mbbl/d
58 Czech Republic 180,400 Mbbl/d   6.3 MMbbl/d  
59 Cuba 180,000 Mbbl/d   38.4 MMbbl/d  
60 Oman 176,000 Mbbl/d 5,400 MMbbl 978.8 MMbbl/d 8 Mbbl/d
61 Belarus 172,000 Mbbl/d   34.3 MMbbl/d 1 Mbbl/d
62 New Zealand 167,700 Mbbl/d   13.4 MMbbl/d  
63 Jordan 160,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
64 Denmark 158,200 Mbbl/d 400 MMbbl 68 MMbbl/d 1 Mbbl/d
65 Turkmenistan 158,000 Mbbl/d 600 MMbbl 249.7 MMbbl/d  
66 Hungary 157,200 Mbbl/d   35.2 MMbbl/d  
67 Puerto Rico 155,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
68 Ireland 151,700 Mbbl/d   0.6 MMbbl/d 0 Mbbl/d
69 Panama 144,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d 1 Mbbl/d
70 Lebanon 143,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
71 Angola 142,000 Mbbl/d 7,800 MMbbl 1,197.6 MMbbl/d 36 Mbbl/d
72 Syria 140,000 Mbbl/d 2,500 MMbbl 80.8 MMbbl/d  
73 Yemen 140,000 Mbbl/d 3,000 MMbbl 70.1 MMbbl/d  
74 United States Virgin Islands 132,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d 22 Mbbl/d
75 Afghanistan 130,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
76 Dominican Republic 114,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d 0 Mbbl/d
77 Sudan 110,000 Mbbl/d 1,500 MMbbl 66.9 MMbbl/d  
78 Bangladesh 107,000 Mbbl/d   13.5 MMbbl/d  
79 Sri Lanka 107,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
80 Azerbaijan 101,000 Mbbl/d 7,000 MMbbl 711.7 MMbbl/d 0 Mbbl/d
81 Tunisia 98,000 Mbbl/d 400 MMbbl 42.5 MMbbl/d  
82 Guatemala 94,770 Mbbl/d   10.3 MMbbl/d 3 Mbbl/d
83 Kenya 93,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
84 Bulgaria 89,000 Mbbl/d   4.5 MMbbl/d  
85 Bolivia 85,580 Mbbl/d   65.4 MMbbl/d  
86 Slovakia 84,290 Mbbl/d   3.8 MMbbl/d  
87 Serbia 66,230 Mbbl/d   15.2 MMbbl/d  
88 Ethiopia 65,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
89 Ghana 64,320 Mbbl/d   185.7 MMbbl/d 51 Mbbl/d
90 Croatia 63,850 Mbbl/d   12.2 MMbbl/d  
91 Uzbekistan 61,000 Mbbl/d 600 MMbbl 36.2 MMbbl/d  
92 Tanzania 60,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
93 Bahrain 58,000 Mbbl/d   185.3 MMbbl/d 4 Mbbl/d
94 Jamaica 57,600 Mbbl/d   3 MMbbl/d 1 Mbbl/d
95 Luxembourg 56,120 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
96 Costa Rica 54,000 Mbbl/d   0.4 MMbbl/d  
97 Uruguay 54,000 Mbbl/d   0.4 MMbbl/d  
98 Lithuania 53,000 Mbbl/d   4 MMbbl/d 4 Mbbl/d
99 Slovenia 52,300 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
100 Honduras 52,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
101 Cyprus 46,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
102 Trinidad and Tobago 46,000 Mbbl/d 200 MMbbl 81 MMbbl/d 40 Mbbl/d
103 Benin 44,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
104 Senegal 44,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
105 Ivory Coast 43,000 Mbbl/d   33 MMbbl/d  
106 Cameroon 42,000 Mbbl/d   63.2 MMbbl/d 4 Mbbl/d
107 Malta 42,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
108 Papua New Guinea 42,000 Mbbl/d   37.2 MMbbl/d  
109 Cambodia 39,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
110 Paraguay 38,000 Mbbl/d   2 MMbbl/d  
111 Latvia 37,680 Mbbl/d   1.6 MMbbl/d  
112 El Salvador 36,230 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
113 Kyrgyzstan 33,000 Mbbl/d   0.7 MMbbl/d  
114 Nepal 32,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
115 Bosnia and Herzegovina 31,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
116 Democratic Republic of the Congo 30,000 Mbbl/d   22 MMbbl/d  
117 Nicaragua 30,000 Mbbl/d   0.2 MMbbl/d  
118 Estonia 29,140 Mbbl/d   21.8 MMbbl/d 1 Mbbl/d
119 Zimbabwe 29,000 Mbbl/d   0.8 MMbbl/d  
120 Albania 27,000 Mbbl/d   16.1 MMbbl/d  
121 Uganda 27,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
122 Mauritius 26,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
123 Mongolia 26,000 Mbbl/d   16.7 MMbbl/d  
124 Namibia 25,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
125 Botswana 23,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
126 Georgia 23,000 Mbbl/d   0.3 MMbbl/d 0 Mbbl/d
127 Mozambique 23,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
128 Tajikistan 23,000 Mbbl/d   0.3 MMbbl/d  
129 Zambia 23,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
130 Burkina Faso 22,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
131 Gabon 22,000 Mbbl/d 2,000 MMbbl 175 MMbbl/d 0 Mbbl/d
132 Moldova 21,720 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
133 Iceland 19,800 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
134 Haiti 19,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
135 Brunei 18,000 Mbbl/d 1,100 MMbbl 107.3 MMbbl/d 26 Mbbl/d
136 North Korea 18,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
137 Republic of the Congo 18,000 Mbbl/d 2,900 MMbbl 270.9 MMbbl/d 1 Mbbl/d
138 New Caledonia 17,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
139 Fiji 16,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
140 Guinea 16,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
141 Mauritania 16,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
142 Guam 15,400 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
143 Madagascar 15,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
144 Suriname 14,000 Mbbl/d   14.8 MMbbl/d  
145 Togo 14,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
146 Guyana 13,000 Mbbl/d   110.2 MMbbl/d 76 Mbbl/d
147 Niger 13,000 Mbbl/d   8 MMbbl/d  
148 Macau 12,700 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
149 Barbados 12,000 Mbbl/d   1 MMbbl/d  
150 Maldives 11,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
151 South Sudan 11,000 Mbbl/d 3,500 MMbbl 157.1 MMbbl/d  
152 Armenia 8,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
153 Aruba 7,500 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
154 Mali 7,500 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
155 Montenegro 7,500 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
156 Sierra Leone 7,500 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
157 Malawi 7,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
158 Liberia 6,600 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d 1 Mbbl/d
159 Seychelles 6,500 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
160 Djibouti 6,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
161 Rwanda 6,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
162 Somalia 5,700 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
163 Equatorial Guinea 5,200 Mbbl/d 1,100 MMbbl 142.6 MMbbl/d 2 Mbbl/d
164 Antigua and Barbuda 5,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
165 Lesotho 5,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
166 Eswatini 5,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
167 Cayman Islands 4,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
168 Faroe Islands 3,947 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
169 Belize 3,700 Mbbl/d   1.3 MMbbl/d  
170 Eritrea 3,600 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
171 Laos 3,500 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
172 Bermuda 3,300 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
173 Saint Lucia 3,100 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
174 Bhutan 3,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
175 Central African Republic 3,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
176 Guinea-Bissau 2,500 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
177 Chad 2,200 Mbbl/d 1,500 MMbbl 87.9 MMbbl/d  
178 Marshall Islands 2,000 Mbbl/d      
179 Saint Kitts and Nevis 1,900 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
180 Western Sahara 1,700 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
181 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 1,600 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
182 Solomon Islands 1,600 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
183 Burundi 1,500 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
184 Turks and Caicos Islands 1,340 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
185 Comoros 1,300 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
186 British Virgin Islands 1,200 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
187 Dominica 1,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
188 Vanuatu 1,000 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
189 Grenada 860 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
190 Saint Pierre and Miquelon 630 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
191 Montserrat 570 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
192 Nauru 400 Mbbl/d   0 MMbbl/d  
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America's unquenchable thirst for oil and gasoline is causing a rapid increase in American shale oil production, the sky is the limit.

Thank you, President Biden! Let's put the pedal to the floor.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Chevron-Plans-to-Spend-14-Billion-on-Oil-and-Natural-Gas-Production-in-2024.html

"Chevron will allocate $14 billion for upstream investments in 2024, the company said in a budget update that saw the total capex planned for 2024 at between $18.5 billion and $19.5 billion.

That would be an 11% increase on 2023 spending, Reuters noted in a report on the news.

Of the amount dedicated to upstream investment, Chevron plans to spend two-thirds on domestic projects. Of that sum, $6.5 billion will be spent on shale oil and gas, Chevron said. Almost all of that shale spending, or $5 billion, will go towards developments in the Permian."

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13 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

The EVs are now piling up sales lots. Fossil fuel cars have low inventories, they are standing up better to the recession.

As I'm not American, is America actually in recession??

This is the definition

The NBER's Business Cycle Dating Committee defines a recession as “a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, last- ing more than a few months, normally visible in production, employment, real income, and other indicators.

"a few months" is normally at least 1 qtr, I dont believe all of the above are in "significant decline"

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9 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

The world's largest wind farm is casting it's citizens into poverty and you claim my ignorance? Perhaps your short sided arrogance is truly what's on full display here

Wow you really just dont get it do you!

NG has pushed the cost of energy up its renewables that are the cheap powergen sources!

Clue for you EWO wind and sun are free, FF not so much!

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9 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Ya Don't say...just where is this miracle of Green Energy...Fossils fuels have never broken a country...yet Green Energy seems to be a fallacy not capable of providing any power generation

You are an idiot if you honestly believe that

The UK powergen last year was 35.2% renewables you fool as opposed to 35.7% FF

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7 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

Completely unnecessary waste of money on renewables.

Its called energy security!

 

7 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

Completely unnecessary waste of money on renewables.

Its also waaaay cheaper than FF plants! Jeez

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22 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

As I'm not American, is America actually in recession??

This is the definition

The NBER's Business Cycle Dating Committee defines a recession as “a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, last- ing more than a few months, normally visible in production, employment, real income, and other indicators.

"a few months" is normally at least 1 qtr, I dont believe all of the above are in "significant decline"

Oh yeah, it satisfies that definition you gave us, which is fairly broad.

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13 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

You are an idiot if you honestly believe that

The UK powergen last year was 35.2% renewables you fool as opposed to 35.7% FF

World-wide 84% of energy supply is fossil fuel.

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7 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

Its called energy security!

 

Its also waaaay cheaper than FF plants! Jeez

ecochump is either a Luddite or he is not playing with a full deck of cards or both......

thank god the majority of Americans are all in for renewable's 

Jun 28, 2023  The Pew Research Center survey of 10,329 U.S. adults conducted May 30 to June 4, 2023, finds:
 

The Pew Research Center survey of 10,329 U.S. adults conducted May 30 to June 4, 2023, finds:

  • 74% of Americans say they support the country’s participation in international efforts to reduce the effects of climate change.
  • 67% of U.S. adults prioritize the development of alternative energy sources such as wind, solar and hydrogen power over increasing the production of fossil fuel energy sources.
 
 

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3 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

World-wide 84% of energy supply is fossil fuel.

80 percent in 2022.....pay attention you keep quoting 2019 numbers

2023.......78 to 79 percent

Enjoy the transition

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2 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

World-wide 84% of energy supply is fossil fuel.

And dropping fast!

My response was to that nincompoop EWO who claimed NO powergen came from renewables which just about sums up his complete lack of knowledge on the subject!

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5 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

And dropping fast!

My response was to that nincompoop EWO who claimed NO powergen came from renewables which just about sums up his complete lack of knowledge on the subject!

84% has been rock solid stable for many decades.

And now American oil production is skyrocketing. Looks like fossil fuels are not going away.

Biden seems to love oil.

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15 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

84% has been rock solid stable for many decades.

And now American oil production is skyrocketing. Looks like fossil fuels are not going away.

Biden seems to love oil.

Actually you're miles off the truth as usual!

And unsurprisingly provide Zero evidence to back up your claim

Last year global powergen by source only 61% was from FF!!!

World electricity generation by source 2022 | Statista

As Notsonice would say "enjoy the transition to renewables"!!!!

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The World’s Safest and Deadliest Sources of Energy

The World’s Safest and Deadliest Sources of Energy | OilPrice.com

  • Fossil fuels, including coal, oil, and natural gas, contribute to over 60% of the world's energy production and are the top greenhouse gas emitters.
  • Air pollution and accidents from fossil fuel-based energy sources lead to significant human casualties, with coal responsible for 25 deaths per terawatt-hour.
  • Wind, solar, and nuclear energy emerge as the safest options, with fewer than 0.1 annual deaths per terawatt-hour, challenging common perceptions about the safety of nuclear energy.

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1 hour ago, Rob Plant said:

Actually you're miles off the truth as usual!

And unsurprisingly provide Zero evidence to back up your claim

Last year global powergen by source only 61% was from FF!!!

World electricity generation by source 2022 | Statista

As Notsonice would say "enjoy the transition to renewables"!!!!

Nonsense.

Here is from your own screwy people and look what they say.

https://kpmg.com/xx/en/home/insights/2023/06/statistical-review-of-world-energy-2023.html#:~:text=All aspects of the trilemma,urgency into the energy transition.

"Despite record growth in renewables, the share of world energy still coming from fossil fuels remains stubbornly stuck at 82%, which should act as a clarion call for governments "

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59 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

The World’s Safest and Deadliest Sources of Energy

The World’s Safest and Deadliest Sources of Energy | OilPrice.com

  • Fossil fuels, including coal, oil, and natural gas, contribute to over 60% of the world's energy production and are the top greenhouse gas emitters.
  • Air pollution and accidents from fossil fuel-based energy sources lead to significant human casualties, with coal responsible for 25 deaths per terawatt-hour.
  • Wind, solar, and nuclear energy emerge as the safest options, with fewer than 0.1 annual deaths per terawatt-hour, challenging common perceptions about the safety of nuclear energy.

More nonsense. Greenhouse gas from human activity is an insignificant factor in earth temperature change.

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17 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

More nonsense. Greenhouse gas from human activity is an insignificant factor in earth temperature change.

"Nonsense" you say lol They were on about deaths per Twh NOT Greenhouse gas

here let me show you

"But energy production doesn’t just lead to carbon emissions, it can also cause accidents and air pollution that have a significant toll on human life."

"with coal responsible for 25 deaths per terawatt-hour."

Keep promoting coal and keep promoting polluting FF that actually kill people. I feel sorry for you if you want people to continue to die! Why would you want that?

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11 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

Nonsense.

Here is from your own screwy people and look what they say.

https://kpmg.com/xx/en/home/insights/2023/06/statistical-review-of-world-energy-2023.html#:~:text=All aspects of the trilemma,urgency into the energy transition.

"Despite record growth in renewables, the share of world energy still coming from fossil fuels remains stubbornly stuck at 82%, which should act as a clarion call for governments "

We were discussing SPECIFICALLY power generation by source NOT energy consumption!

Please try to keep up.

However from your own post, this

  • Record deployment of wind and solar in the power sector accounted for around 84% of net electricity growth.

I posted the actual numbers and FF powergen is 61% of total powergen globally bit this is reducing rapidly as you kindly pointed out in your article link.

 

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