Old-Ruffneck + 1,246 er December 26, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, notsonice said: yeah trying to get people booted, with your BS post, because you do not like their opinions and politics seems to the rage these days........ In America we still allow people to voice opinions....if you do not like them, shove off in the oil world, Politics runs the show.....unless you think that the Saudis and Russians do not use Oil as a political and economic weapon...... Trump and his supporters, who detest the Green transition, tried shutting down our opinions expressed through our votes, on Jan 6......how is that working out for them????? Now the Green transition is happening ....we voted for it....sucks for you, that it is not Oil and Coal friendly........and now you attack those who vote for it by trying to suppress their opinions. Fool maybe this it not the forum for you........as you do not like the facts the Green transition is happening and Coal is toast in the US and Oil will follow in the footsteps.......Good riddance to those who think they can spew anything they want into the public space. why are you are not attacking your pal Eco for him injecting politics into the forum?????? PS put a cork in it, you senile old fart, we have too many methane emissions already..... Sleepy Joe is in charge and the Green Transition moves ahead one solar panel at a time In America we still allow people to voice opinions....if you do not like them, shove off Trump and his supporters, who detest the Green transition, tried shutting down our opinions expressed through our votes, on Jan 6......how is that working out for them????? That in itself makes no sense? Why I say yer clueless. Probably still driving an ICE like yer bud Jay. 64 isn't old as i still work everyday as I have a successful business, does consume alot of oil and byproducts, now into my 33rd year. Not senile ya twit. I do work with my employees and some have been with me 30+ years. I take care of my customers and my employees as I do understand business. So you can keep spouting rubbish, it is no doubt you fail to understand the true importance of oil. Coal is slipping slowly, which is good. Try and learn some about oil instead of bashing it. Many products and meds etc are here now from oil. Are medicines made from oil? Pharmaceuticals represent about 3% of petrochemical use but almost 99% of pharmaceuticals contain petrochemicals. Petroleum is also the foundation of transporting medicine so that patients can have it when they need it. One 42-gallon barrel of oil creates 19.4 gallons of gasoline. The rest (over half) is used to make things like: Solvents Diesel fuel Motor Oil Bearing Grease Ink Floor Wax Ballpoint Pens Football Cleats Upholstery Sweaters Boats Insecticides Bicycle Tires Sports Car Bodies Nail Polish Fishing lures Dresses Tires Golf Bags Perfumes Cassettes Dishwasher parts Tool Boxes Shoe Polish Motorcycle Helmet Caulking Petroleum Jelly Transparent Tape CD Player Faucet Washers Antiseptics Clothesline Curtains Food Preservatives Basketballs Soap Vitamin Capsules Antihistamines Purses Shoes Dashboards Cortisone Deodorant Shoelace Aglets Putty Dyes Panty Hose Refrigerant Percolators Life Jackets Rubbing Alcohol Linings Skis TV Cabinets Shag Rugs Electrician’s Tape Tool Racks Car Battery Cases Epoxy Paint Mops Slacks Insect Repellent Oil Filters Umbrellas Yarn Fertilizers Hair Coloring Roofing Toilet Seats Fishing Rods Lipstick Denture Adhesive Linoleum Ice Cube Trays Synthetic Rubber Speakers Plastic Wood Electric Blankets Glycerin Tennis Rackets Rubber Cement Fishing Boots Dice Nylon Rope Candles Trash Bags House Paint Water Pipes Hand Lotion Roller Skates Surf Boards Shampoo Wheels Paint Rollers Shower Curtains Guitar Strings Luggage Aspirin Safety Glasses Antifreeze Football Helmets Awnings Eyeglasses Clothes Toothbrushes Ice Chests Footballs Combs CD’s & DVD’s Paint Brushes Detergents Vaporizers Balloons Sun Glasses Tents Heart Valves Crayons Parachutes Telephones Enamel Pillows Dishes Cameras Anesthetics Artificial Turf Artificial limbs Bandages Dentures Model Cars Folding Doors Hair Curlers Cold cream Movie film Contact lenses Drinking Cups Fan Belts Car Enamel Shaving Cream Ammonia Refrigerators Golf Balls Toothpaste Gasoline Edited December 26, 2023 by Old-Ruffneck 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloodman33 + 22 TJ December 27, 2023 I have no problems using oil as ingredients to make stuff. I have problems with burning it, as well as natural gas! Da! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloodman33 + 22 TJ December 27, 2023 That said plastics made from oil are destroying the oceans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloodman33 + 22 TJ December 27, 2023 My cousin Harry can eat and metabolize plastic. We are cloning 1 million Harrys to eat plastic. The problem is he burps CO2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE December 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Old-Ruffneck said: Pharmaceuticals represent about 3% of petrochemical use but almost 99% of pharmaceuticals contain petrochemicals. Petroleum is also the foundation of transporting medicine so that patients can have it when they need it. 3% of petrochemical use... try to maintain your industry off 3%. Organic chemists can make drugs without fossil fuels. Most widely-used drugs are made by bacteria in bioreactors. Do you remember how penicillin was found / originally made? Natural products drug discovery is way more widely used than brute force total synthesis from petrochemicals. 3% is nothing when Luddites talk of EV's but 3% is HUGE when it is from oil... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old-Ruffneck + 1,246 er December 27, 2023 11 hours ago, TailingsPond said: 3% of petrochemical use... try to maintain your industry off 3%. Organic chemists can make drugs without fossil fuels. Most widely-used drugs are made by bacteria in bioreactors. Do you remember how penicillin was found / originally made? Natural products drug discovery is way more widely used than brute force total synthesis from petrochemicals. 3% is nothing when Luddites talk of EV's but 3% is HUGE when it is from oil... You seem to miss this part!!! You're take was 3% out of the whole barrel. Duhhhhh One 42-gallon barrel of oil creates 19.4 gallons of gasoline. The rest (over half) is used to make things like: Solvents Diesel fuel Motor Oil Bearing Grease Ink Floor Wax Ballpoint Pens Football Cleats Upholstery Sweaters Boats Insecticides Bicycle Tires Sports Car Bodies Nail Polish Fishing lures Dresses Tires Golf Bags Perfumes Cassettes Dishwasher parts Tool Boxes Shoe Polish Motorcycle Helmet Caulking Petroleum Jelly Transparent Tape CD Player Faucet Washers Antiseptics Clothesline Curtains Food Preservatives Basketballs Soap Vitamin Capsules Antihistamines Purses Shoes Dashboards Cortisone Deodorant Shoelace Aglets Putty Dyes Panty Hose Refrigerant Percolators Life Jackets Rubbing Alcohol Linings Skis TV Cabinets Shag Rugs Electrician’s Tape Tool Racks Car Battery Cases Epoxy Paint Mops Slacks Insect Repellent Oil Filters Umbrellas Yarn Fertilizers Hair Coloring Roofing Toilet Seats Fishing Rods Lipstick Denture Adhesive Linoleum Ice Cube Trays Synthetic Rubber Speakers Plastic Wood Electric Blankets Glycerin Tennis Rackets Rubber Cement Fishing Boots Dice Nylon Rope Candles Trash Bags House Paint Water Pipes Hand Lotion Roller Skates Surf Boards Shampoo Wheels Paint Rollers Shower Curtains Guitar Strings Luggage Aspirin Safety Glasses Antifreeze Football Helmets Awnings Eyeglasses Clothes Toothbrushes Ice Chests Footballs Combs CD’s & DVD’s Paint Brushes Detergents Vaporizers Balloons Sun Glasses Tents Heart Valves Crayons Parachutes Telephones Enamel Pillows Dishes Cameras Anesthetics Artificial Turf Artificial limbs Bandages Dentures Model Cars Folding Doors Hair Curlers Cold cream Movie film Contact lenses Drinking Cups Fan Belts Car Enamel Shaving Cream Ammonia Refrigerators Golf Balls Toothpaste Gasoline 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE December 27, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Old-Ruffneck said: You seem to miss this part!!! You're take was 3% out of the whole barrel. Duhhhhh One 42-gallon barrel of oil creates 19.4 gallons of gasoline. The rest (over half) is used to make things like: Solvents Diesel fuel Motor Oil Bearing Grease Ink Floor Wax Ballpoint Pens Football Cleats Upholstery Sweaters Boats Insecticides Bicycle Tires Sports Car Bodies Nail Polish Fishing lures Dresses Tires Golf Bags Perfumes Cassettes Dishwasher parts Tool Boxes Shoe Polish Motorcycle Helmet Caulking Petroleum Jelly Transparent Tape CD Player Faucet Washers Antiseptics Clothesline Curtains Food Preservatives Basketballs Soap Vitamin Capsules Antihistamines Purses Shoes Dashboards Cortisone Deodorant Shoelace Aglets Putty Dyes Panty Hose Refrigerant Percolators Life Jackets Rubbing Alcohol Linings Skis TV Cabinets Shag Rugs Electrician’s Tape Tool Racks Car Battery Cases Epoxy Paint Mops Slacks Insect Repellent Oil Filters Umbrellas Yarn Fertilizers Hair Coloring Roofing Toilet Seats Fishing Rods Lipstick Denture Adhesive Linoleum Ice Cube Trays Synthetic Rubber Speakers Plastic Wood Electric Blankets Glycerin Tennis Rackets Rubber Cement Fishing Boots Dice Nylon Rope Candles Trash Bags House Paint Water Pipes Hand Lotion Roller Skates Surf Boards Shampoo Wheels Paint Rollers Shower Curtains Guitar Strings Luggage Aspirin Safety Glasses Antifreeze Football Helmets Awnings Eyeglasses Clothes Toothbrushes Ice Chests Footballs Combs CD’s & DVD’s Paint Brushes Detergents Vaporizers Balloons Sun Glasses Tents Heart Valves Crayons Parachutes Telephones Enamel Pillows Dishes Cameras Anesthetics Artificial Turf Artificial limbs Bandages Dentures Model Cars Folding Doors Hair Curlers Cold cream Movie film Contact lenses Drinking Cups Fan Belts Car Enamel Shaving Cream Ammonia Refrigerators Golf Balls Toothpaste Gasoline Good luck making money only selling 3% of each barrel. Most oil is used for energy. Your claim that half is not used for energy is wrong. Edited December 27, 2023 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE December 27, 2023 Look below most is burned in some way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE December 27, 2023 Shall I make a list of products that need clean water? LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL December 27, 2023 (edited) President Biden has trotted out an enormous Christmas gift for the average American, historic production of oil! The Biden Administration's desperate pleas to the oil producers to increase oil output have been answered. Welcome to the New Age of Oil in America! Keep those fossil fuel cars rolling! https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/US-Shatters-Oil-Production-Records-in-2023.html "The U.S. produced over 4.49 billion barrels of crude oil in 2019, and this record has been exceeded in 2023. The Energy Information Administration's data indicates that the U.S. achieved this milestone around December 15, with a conservative estimate of 13.0 million barrels per day. Alongside oil, the U.S. is also on track to set a new production record for natural gas this year." Biden & Co. understand the central and growing role which oil and natural gas play in the American economy. Oil rules. Edited December 27, 2023 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE December 27, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: President Biden has trotted out an enormous Christmas gift for the average American, historic production of oil! The Biden Administration's desperate pleas to the oil producers to increase oil output have been answered. Welcome to the New Age of Oil in America! Keep those fossil fuel cars rolling! https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/US-Shatters-Oil-Production-Records-in-2023.html "The U.S. produced over 4.49 billion barrels of crude oil in 2019, and this record has been exceeded in 2023. The Energy Information Administration's data indicates that the U.S. achieved this milestone around December 15, with a conservative estimate of 13.0 million barrels per day. Alongside oil, the U.S. is also on track to set a new production record for natural gas this year." Biden & Co. understand the central and growing role which oil and natural gas play in the American economy. Oil rules. Previously you have denounced this administration. At least you are now noticing that trump sucked and that this is an improvement. Progress has been made! Edited December 27, 2023 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM December 27, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: President Biden has trotted out an enormous Christmas gift for the average American, historic production of oil! The Biden Administration's desperate pleas to the oil producers to increase oil output have been answered. Welcome to the New Age of Oil in America! Keep those fossil fuel cars rolling! https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/US-Shatters-Oil-Production-Records-in-2023.html "The U.S. produced over 4.49 billion barrels of crude oil in 2019, and this record has been exceeded in 2023. The Energy Information Administration's data indicates that the U.S. achieved this milestone around December 15, with a conservative estimate of 13.0 million barrels per day. Alongside oil, the U.S. is also on track to set a new production record for natural gas this year." Biden & Co. understand the central and growing role which oil and natural gas play in the American economy. Oil rules. Rome was not built in a day....... EV sales are picking up ....thanks to Sleepy Joe...Your new Hero ...glad to see you praising him and worldwide Gasoline consumption is dropping........... Peak Oil already happened Electricity rules And Green electricity is here today and in the next 20 years .........the main source Coal is already toast in the US Peak Coal happened in 2013 ....did you get your dead cat bounce in 2023???????? Oil will follow in its path........ Enjoy the transition 2023 15 million EVs sold around the world 2024 PHEV and EV sales in the US......... minimum 15 percent of the market Worldwide 2024......20 percent of the market Edited December 27, 2023 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL December 29, 2023 Demand for oil products such as gasoline is skyrocketing, breaking all estimates for expected oil demand. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Record-Global-Gasoline-Consumption-Defies-IEA-Forecast.html "Global gasoline consumption hit a record 26.9 million barrels per day (bpd) this year, exceeding the 2019 peak and defying estimates that the last pre-pandemic year was the time when gasoline demand worldwide would peak." "...the IEA’s latest figures not only show that 2019 wasn’t the peak demand year for global gasoline consumption, but that demand in both 2023 and 2024 would surpass the pre-pandemic levels. Per the latest data reported by Bloomberg’s Blas, gasoline demand globally is set to further rise next year, to top 27 million bpd. " The IEA has now been forced to gorge itself on a Christmas meal of well-cooked crow. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE December 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: Demand for oil products such as gasoline is skyrocketing, breaking all estimates for expected oil demand. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Record-Global-Gasoline-Consumption-Defies-IEA-Forecast.html "Global gasoline consumption hit a record 26.9 million barrels per day (bpd) this year, exceeding the 2019 peak and defying estimates that the last pre-pandemic year was the time when gasoline demand worldwide would peak." "...the IEA’s latest figures not only show that 2019 wasn’t the peak demand year for global gasoline consumption, but that demand in both 2023 and 2024 would surpass the pre-pandemic levels. Per the latest data reported by Bloomberg’s Blas, gasoline demand globally is set to further rise next year, to top 27 million bpd. " The IEA has now been forced to gorge itself on a Christmas meal of well-cooked crow. The estimates were for decline - pay attention to that. Kinda like: "We thought Jimmy was going to fail the 4th grade but he passed!" That doesn't make Jimmy smart. Plus a "Post pandemic" bump in travel was expected by many as family trips were delayed during the lockdowns. Don't celebrate too much big guy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 December 29, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, TailingsPond said: "Post Pandemic" Great thought...the Post Pandemic Green Plauge ...let us start below. From GE to Siemens, the wind energy industry hopes billions in losses are about to end https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/17/from-ge-to-siemens-wind-energy-hopes-its-crisis-is-about-to-end.html#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=17034257780065&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnbc.com%2F2023%2F04%2F17%2Ffrom-ge-to-siemens-wind-energy-hopes-its-crisis-is-about-to-end.html Edited December 29, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE December 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Great thought...the Post Pandemic Green Plauge ...let us start below. From GE to Siemens, the wind energy industry hopes billions in losses are about to end https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/17/from-ge-to-siemens-wind-energy-hopes-its-crisis-is-about-to-end.html#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=17034257780065&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnbc.com%2F2023%2F04%2F17%2Ffrom-ge-to-siemens-wind-energy-hopes-its-crisis-is-about-to-end.html Once again did you read the article? "By and large, the U.S. wind energy industry is in good shape, if the short-term economic issues can be overcome. “It just has to get over this speed bump, most of which is driven by supply chain issues,” said Wood Mackenzie’s Barr. “If all the players involved can make it through the end of this year, we think the future is bright for the industry.” The stakes are high. “To be crystal clear,” Bruch told CNBC back in November, “energy transition without wind energy does not work.”" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 December 29, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, TailingsPond said: Once again did you read the article? "By and large, the U.S. wind energy industry is in good shape, if the short-term economic issues can be overcome. “It just has to get over this speed bump, most of which is driven by supply chain issues,” said Wood Mackenzie’s Barr. “If all the players involved can make it through the end of this year, we think the future is bright for the industry.” The stakes are high. “To be crystal clear,” Bruch told CNBC back in November, “energy transition without wind energy does not work.”" Ya Don't Say Wind turbine troubles have sent one stock tumbling. There are fears it could be a much wider issue PUBLISHED MON, JUL 3 20232:02 AM EDTUPDATED MON, JUL 3 20239:48 AM EDT Elliot Smith@ELLIOTSMITHCNBC KEY POINTS Siemens Energy stock plunged by around 37% on June 23, while other wind companies also saw shares retreat as investors worried that the problems at Gamesa might be a symptom of a wider issue for the industry. “We have been aware for some time that turbine failure rates across the industry can — and should — be more widely understood,” Evgenia Golysheva, vice president of strategy and marketing at ONYX Insight, told CNBC. Industry body WindEurope denied that industry-wide technical failures could be on the horizon, insisting that “the problems at Siemens Gamesa are limited to Siemens Gamesa.” WATCH LIVE https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/03/siemens-energy-wind-turbine-problems-could-be-an-industry-wide-issue.html Edited December 29, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Ya Don't Say Frantically searching Google to find another article that fits your preconceived notions is not the same as a real rebuttal. Try to use your own words instead of copy and paste or GIFs. Just try to read the crap links you post. Most of the time they do not say the thing you want it to say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 December 31, 2023 (edited) On 12/28/2023 at 11:08 PM, TailingsPond said: Frantically searching Google to find another article that fits your preconceived notions is not the same as a real rebuttal. Try to use your own words instead of copy and paste or GIFs. Just try to read the crap links you post. Most of the time they do not say the thing you want it to say. And then there is this.... Fury over 'ecological disaster' at $10bn Orsted offshore wind project Academic 'broken' by claimed silt displacement from Hornsea 3 cabling works to English river https://www.rechargenews.com/wind/fury-over-ecological-disaster-at-10bn-orsted-offshore-wind-project/2-1-1545230 Edited December 31, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 December 31, 2023 (edited) Just another day in the Green Melt down Biggest clean energy disaster in years’: UK auction secures no offshore windfarms This article is more than 3 months old Lack of interest was widely expected after government failed to heed warnings about soaring costs What went wrong at UK’s offshore wind auction? Nils Pratley: does the government still have an offshore wind strategy? Jillian Ambrose Energy correspondent Fri 8 Sep 2023 11.20 EDT No new offshore windfarms will go ahead in the UK after the latest government auction, in what critics have called the biggest clean energy policy failure in almost a decade. None of the companies hoping to build big offshore windfarms in UK waters took part in the government’s annual auction, which awards contracts to generate renewable electricity for 15 years at a set price. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/sep/08/biggest-clean-energy-disaster-in-years-uk-auction-secures-no-offshore-windfarms Edited December 31, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 December 31, 2023 (edited) A nation on the verge of bankruptcy...Is there no shame. Siemens Energy: Germany to bail out key green transition player for €7.5bn https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/siemens-energy-germany-to-bail-out-key-green-transition-player-for-e7-5bn/ Edited December 31, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 December 31, 2023 (edited) One cannot make up the below statement. Siemens Energy to cut 7,800 jobs in face of coal phase-out By Reuters and Christoph Steitz February 1, 202110:23 PM PSTUpdated 3 years ago https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/siemens-energy-cut-7800-jobs-face-coal-phase-out-2021-02-02/ Edited December 31, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said: One cannot make up the below statement. Siemens Energy to cut 7,800 jobs in face of coal phase-out By Reuters and Christoph Steitz February 1, 202110:23 PM PSTUpdated 3 years ago https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/siemens-energy-cut-7800-jobs-face-coal-phase-out-2021-02-02/ coal is toast......have you not been paying attention????? no new coal fired power plants......no need for new steam driven generation equipment are you struggling with understanding the statement, Siemens Energy to cut 7,800 jobs in face of coal phase-out............????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: A nation on the verge of bankruptcy...Is there no shame. Siemens Energy: Germany to bail out key green transition player for €7.5bn https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/siemens-energy-germany-to-bail-out-key-green-transition-player-for-e7-5bn/ Germany on the verge of bankruptcy?????? I don't think so......... Germany is doing very well on its Debt to GDP ratio and it is decreasing over time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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