Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 March 14 2 minutes ago, TailingsPond said: No, you were the one that posted that. "Most aren’t coming back anytime soon" Confused I assume? This Could Be A Gamechanger For Natural Gas In Europe Those days are over. But Germany, the European Union’s biggest economy, still needs natural gas, even if this winter’s storage is nearly full. It’s not full as a result of domestic sources. Germany has traded one form of dependence for another. The filling up of winter storage has come at a high price tag thanks to expensive LNG imports, which are now at risk, as well, due to the Biden administration’s pause on new LNG export projects. At the height of the crisis, the European Union was paying some 40% more for U.S. LNG imports than it was for Russian piped gas. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/This-Could-Be-A-Gamechanger-For-Natural-Gas-In-Europe.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE March 14 2 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Confused I assume? You would be wrong about that as well, pretty standard. You were the one who posted the jobs are not coming back, and then attempt to rebut with a now non-existent European gas venture. MCF energy is on the tsx venture market and has a market cap of a paltry 61 million. A large percentage of companies on the venture market fail, don't bet the bank on that project, if you invest at all (unlikely). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM March 14 13 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Confused I assume? This Could Be A Gamechanger For Natural Gas In Europe Those days are over. But Germany, the European Union’s biggest economy, still needs natural gas, even if this winter’s storage is nearly full. It’s not full as a result of domestic sources. Germany has traded one form of dependence for another. The filling up of winter storage has come at a high price tag thanks to expensive LNG imports, which are now at risk, as well, due to the Biden administration’s pause on new LNG export projects. At the height of the crisis, the European Union was paying some 40% more for U.S. LNG imports than it was for Russian piped gas. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/This-Could-Be-A-Gamechanger-For-Natural-Gas-In-Europe.html and the reality is renewables are eating EU nat gas demands lunch GlobalData on MSN9d Weekly data: US LNG export capacity expected to be 76% higher than EU demand European gas demand has fallen to a ten-year low and is down 20% since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, according to ... EWO you repost just another article trying to discredit Joe Reality Renewables are cratering EU demand for nat gas......will there be any demand in the future for Nat gas electricity generation in the EU Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 March 14 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TailingsPond said: MCF energy is on the tsx venture market and has a market cap of a paltry 61 million. A large percentage of companies on the venture market fail, don't bet the bank on that project, if you invest at all (unlikely). Speaking of venture capital.... 59% of Investors Concerned About Greenwashing in Financial Industry By City A.M - Mar 13, 2024, 9:00 AM CDT Most investors with supposedly sustainable ISAs unknowingly support banks funding fossil fuels. Many believe sustainable funds cannot include fossil fuel companies, highlighting a lack of understanding. Young investors are more skeptical of greenwashing practices by financial institutions. The Financial Conduct Authority is set to bring in new anti-greenwashing rules later this year, but the research found only 10 percent of investors were aware of the new rules. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/59-of-Investors-Concerned-About-Greenwashing-in-Financial-Industry.html Edited March 14 by Eyes Wide Open 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE March 14 1 minute ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Speaking of venture capital.... Venture capital / capitalists is different from trading on the venture exchange. Venture capitalists have loads of cash to invest, conversely many companies on the venture exchange are broke AF. Try again. Do better than just looking at the oilprice main page. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 March 14 (edited) 35 minutes ago, notsonice said: Reality Renewables are cratering EU demand for nat gas......will there be any demand in the future for Nat gas electricity generation in the EU Ya Don't Say..Perhaps coal is doing the heavy lift...Your thoughts? Germany approves bringing coal-fired power plants back online this winter https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germany-approves-bringing-coal-fired-power-plants-back-online-this-winter-2023-10-04/ Edited March 14 by Eyes Wide Open 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 March 14 37 minutes ago, notsonice said: EWO you repost just another article trying to discredit Joe The article is a Oil price article, they take no political positions on politics. Perhaps just cause and effects of market place dynamics. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 March 14 (edited) 51 minutes ago, notsonice said: Reality Renewables are cratering EU demand for nat gas......will there be any demand in the future for Nat gas electricity generation in the EU Fake News? Natural gas is now back in fashion in a very big way and the new mantra is that domestic sources in combination with renewable energy are the only true answer to energy security. In early February, Germany earmarked $16 billion for the construction of four natural gas power plants to complement a renewable energy expansion push. And Austria has recently made its largest natural gas discovery in four decades—enough to increase its domestic production by 50%. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/2-Companies-That-Could-Help-Europe-Win-Its-Energy-War-With-Russia.html Edited March 14 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE March 14 On 3/12/2024 at 2:47 PM, notsonice said: junkscience.com https://junkscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/... [PDF] 10.11648.j.ijaos.20210502.12 - JunkScience.com webSep 10, 2021 · David Coe, Walter Fabinski, Gerhard Wiegleb. The Impact of CO2, H2O and Other “Greenhouse Gases” on Equilibrium Earth Temperatures. International Journal of … File Size: 615KB Page Count: 12 Too funny! If you open the link, the paper was Received: August 2, 2021; Accepted: August 11, 2021; Published: August 23, 2021 You can't even arrange a peer review panel let alone get their responses back that fast. It takes a long time to get a respectable publisher to put your paper to print. These guys just don't understand how it works - at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM March 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Ya Don't Say..Perhaps coal is doing the heavy lift...Your thoughts? Germany approves bringing coal-fired power plants back online this winter https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germany-approves-bringing-coal-fired-power-plants-back-online-this-winter-2023-10-04/ 6 month old article , winter is over....how much coal was used in Germany this last winter??? ha ha ha ewo you really are a slow one, read the article posted below dumbass reality in Germany coal use is now at an alltime low RenewEconomy2d Renewables provide 52 pct of German power in 2023, as wind overtakes coal Renewables accounted for a record 51.8 pct share of electricity consumption in Germany in 2023, as wind output overtook coal ... Edited March 14 by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP March 14 3 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Ya Don't Say Ørsted, which is behind the £8bn Hornsea 3 project off the Yorkshire coast, said on Wednesday it planned to axe up to 800 jobs, pull back from markets in Spain, Portugal and Norway, "and suspend dividend payments to shareholders covering the 2023-25 financial years." Hornsea isnt in Portugal, Spain or Norway so why reference it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP March 14 2 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: China Virus...go figure! The pandemic made 107,000 oil and gas jobs disappear. Most aren’t coming back anytime soon By Matt Egan, CNN Business https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/08/business/oil-gas-jobs/index.html "Most aren’t coming back anytime soon" theres your clue! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP March 14 1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Ya Don't Say..Perhaps coal is doing the heavy lift...Your thoughts? Germany approves bringing coal-fired power plants back online this winter https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germany-approves-bringing-coal-fired-power-plants-back-online-this-winter-2023-10-04/ Oh dear you again jump on headlines and do zero factual research Try this article Coal production and consumption statistics - Statistics Explained (europa.eu) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP March 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Fake News? Natural gas is now back in fashion in a very big way and the new mantra is that domestic sources in combination with renewable energy are the only true answer to energy security. In early February, Germany earmarked $16 billion for the construction of four natural gas power plants to complement a renewable energy expansion push. And Austria has recently made its largest natural gas discovery in four decades—enough to increase its domestic production by 50%. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/2-Companies-That-Could-Help-Europe-Win-Its-Energy-War-With-Russia.html NG is cheap and far less harmful than coal or other FF however renewables are STILL eating into the share of NG powergen in the UK as per the last 12 months figures below and we do have our own NG. Edited March 14 by Rob Plant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP March 14 4 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Confused I assume? This Could Be A Gamechanger For Natural Gas In Europe Those days are over. But Germany, the European Union’s biggest economy, still needs natural gas, even if this winter’s storage is nearly full. It’s not full as a result of domestic sources. Germany has traded one form of dependence for another. The filling up of winter storage has come at a high price tag thanks to expensive LNG imports, which are now at risk, as well, due to the Biden administration’s pause on new LNG export projects. At the height of the crisis, the European Union was paying some 40% more for U.S. LNG imports than it was for Russian piped gas. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/This-Could-Be-A-Gamechanger-For-Natural-Gas-In-Europe.html I very much doubt it German Utility Giant Eyes Massive $46 Billion Investment German Utility Giant Eyes Massive $46 Billion Investment | OilPrice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL March 14 The IEA is now acknowledging the reality of the markets, that oil is going up in demand and in price. Biden's own agency is now open to the truth. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/IEA-Sees-OPEC-Cuts-Pushing-Oil-Markets-Into-a-Supply-Deficit.html "The IEA also raised its 2024 outlook on global oil demand growth, by 110,000 barrels per day (bpd) from the February report. The Paris-based agency revised up its demand growth projection to 1.3 million bpd for 2024, compared to 1.2 million bpd expected in last month’s report. The reasons for the IEA’s upward revision to demand are an improved outlook for U.S. oil demand, and higher demand for bunker fuel use, due to the trade flow disruptions in the Red Sea, which have made many vessel operators to opt for the longer route between Europe and Asia via the Cape of Good Hope in Africa." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL March 14 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rob Plant said: NG is cheap and far less harmful than coal or other FF however renewables are STILL eating into the share of NG powergen in the UK as per the last 12 months figures below and we do have our own NG. Grasping at straws again? There is no "harm" from oil and gasoline, only benefits from improved standard of living. People cannot be fooled indefinitely. Edited March 14 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL March 14 4 hours ago, Rob Plant said: "Most aren’t coming back anytime soon" theres your clue! Lack of substance there...if oil demand continues to grow at current rates, jobs in the sector will have to grow. I guess a course in basic logic is required for these poor folks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL March 14 13 hours ago, TailingsPond said: The paper you like to post clearly says they are attempting to simplify the model. You are arguing for both simplification and increased sophistication. Pick one. Simplification means including all of the relevant variables in a comprehensive set of calculations, not ignoring some major variables because it is too difficult to construct a proper model. The problem with many standard climate models is ignoring the difficult variables and using a defective model. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL March 14 12 hours ago, TailingsPond said: Darwin had plenty of money, the book publishing cost far less than the cost of the 5 year trip. Quality researchers have grants, and make good money themselves. The cost of publication is trivial compared to how much the organization paid for the researches salary, lab equipment, etc. I assure you if you write a paper that is anywhere close to good enough to get in Nature you don't have to worry about a few thousand bucks, somebody will give you lots of money as it brings prestige to the organization. They generally increase your research group funding as well. Do you have any idea how expensive scientific research is? Our lab spent about 1,000,000 CND between salaries and operating expenses, not including capital purchases. A single GC-MS-MS can run well over $300,000. Climate researchers spend big money on supercomputers and the electricity they need. It is beyond silly to think a few thousand in publication expenses is relevant. PS The large hadron collider was almost 5 billion dollars. James Webb telescope was also about 10 billion. Science is expensive. Your point is? The complaint that Coe and his group may have paid for publication costs is not a serious complaint, it appears to be a standard practice in the science journal trade. That was the point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL March 14 (edited) 12 hours ago, TailingsPond said: That is not true. If the paper was good others would reference it in their own papers in agreement of the original author. It would be lauded, but it is not. Heck, Coe still hasn't even earned a PhD. If this paper was any good he would have earned a PhD. https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-coe-7a042b129/ Do you think Einstein was a crappy scientist because his work is referenced far and wide? That is the logic you are using, if ignored means it's good then fame and awards must mean it is bad. https://researchguides.uic.edu/c.php?g=252299&p=1683205 No, that is not the criterion for an important article...in this case no one has attempted to refute the calculations made of the greenhouse gas components, that was the heart of the article. And those calculations indicate that CO2 is not a significant contributor to climate change. You can be sure that this article is well known and no challenge yet appeared. By the way, where did Darwin get his PhD? Cambridge? Edited March 14 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP March 14 58 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: Grasping at straws again? There is no "harm" from oil and gasoline, only benefits from improved standard of living. People cannot be fooled indefinitely. I post FACTS and you post nonsense There is no "harm" from oil and gasoline??? thousands if not millions die each and every year from FF related air pollution in cities around the world. You are seriously deluded and advocate killing people. Air pollution from fossil fuel use is killing 5 million people worldwide every year, a death toll much higher than previously estimated, according to the largest study of its kind. Air pollution from fossil fuels ‘kills 5 million people a year’ | Air pollution | The Guardian 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP March 14 1 hour ago, Ecocharger said: Lack of substance there...if oil demand continues to grow at current rates, jobs in the sector will have to grow. I guess a course in basic logic is required for these poor folks. So EWO's comment is BS then, dont worry they usually are. If, and its an IF, oil grows jobs dont necessarily follow suit as there's these things called improved technology, automation and efficiencies. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP March 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ecocharger said: The IEA is now acknowledging the reality of the markets, that oil is going up in demand and in price. Biden's own agency is now open to the truth. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/IEA-Sees-OPEC-Cuts-Pushing-Oil-Markets-Into-a-Supply-Deficit.html "The IEA also raised its 2024 outlook on global oil demand growth, by 110,000 barrels per day (bpd) from the February report. The Paris-based agency revised up its demand growth projection to 1.3 million bpd for 2024, compared to 1.2 million bpd expected in last month’s report. The reasons for the IEA’s upward revision to demand are an improved outlook for U.S. oil demand, and higher demand for bunker fuel use, due to the trade flow disruptions in the Red Sea, which have made many vessel operators to opt for the longer route between Europe and Asia via the Cape of Good Hope in Africa." Thats less than half the growth in Q4 2023 So its decreasing sharply, exactly as I posted, thanks for confirming the slowdown. Edited March 14 by Rob Plant 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL March 14 4 minutes ago, Rob Plant said: Thats less than half the growth in Q4 2023 So its decreasing sharply, exactly as I posted, thanks for confirming the slowdown. Growing to all-time highs, and continuing to grow. That means growth. I guess the failure of EV sales in Britain and Europe has put you off your game, Rob. Calm down, old boy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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