TailingsPond + 1,009 GE 4 hours ago 22 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Oil production is at another all-time high as the major oil companies ramp up output to meet growing oil demand. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/US-Oil-Output-Hits-Record-High-in-August.html Still using oil price for your words? Did Julianne Geiger even study economics? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,009 GE 4 hours ago (edited) 55 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: The EV transition is officially OVER. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/UK-Government-May-Relax-Rules-On-EV-Targets.html Do you know that Tesla is the largest auto manufacturer in the world? 1.04T market cap. Also the CEO owns the POTUS elect. "The Tesla Model Y was the best-selling vehicle in the world in 2023, selling 1.22 million units globally" Don't kid yourself man, nothing is officially over. Also note you have said "it is over" numerous times in the past yet it continues. P.S. "Zerohedge" is not an official. Edited 3 hours ago by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM 1 hour ago (edited) 2 hours ago, TailingsPond said: Do you know that Tesla is the largest auto manufacturer in the world? 1.04T market cap. Also the CEO owns the POTUS elect. "The Tesla Model Y was the best-selling vehicle in the world in 2023, selling 1.22 million units globally" Don't kid yourself man, nothing is officially over. Also note you have said "it is over" numerous times in the past yet it continues. P.S. "Zerohedge" is not an official. Do you know that Tesla is the largest auto manufacturer in the world?>>>> Tesla produced 1.85 million vehicles in 2023 which does not put Tesla in the top 12 car companies nope not even close....market cap means nothing...........would anyone buy tesla for 1 trillion dollars...............nope .....only an idiot believes Tesla is going to sell more cars next year than this year.........Tesla is at a cross roads Tesla Cyber truck????? oh boy what a flop............. all it takes is Teslas competitors to price their product which is the same as a Tesla EV at a lower price to wipe them out. Look at what is happening in China Tesla last year had 7 percent of the EV market, this year is 3 percent...... and the US market.........only so many buyers who are willing to overpay for a Tesla..... on the valuation..........you have to ask yourself what is their physical plant plus money in the bank worth today??? 1 trillion????? far from it you can buy and sell small amounts of overpriced shares all day...still at the end or the day no one will step in and pay 1 trillion for the whole of Tesla. I have worked for my share of companies that were overvalued on the stock market. Their share prices all ended up in the dumpster , as the respective execs of each company were just engaging into pumping up share values for their own benefit. Tesla Solar????.......poof.....Tesla batteries??? they do not make their own...panasonic makes them With Elons diving into politics he sure is alienating those who would ever think of buying a Tesla fast....... Do you think alot of Trumpers are going to run out and buy a Tesla today???? ha ha ha do not mix politics with a business ever.................... Tariffs are looming and my bet is China will make an example out of Tesla to its own people and Tesla in China will cease to sell any cars in China mid 2025........ you are better off at investing in Tulips than Buying Tesla shares today If you are holding Tesla shares ...........good luck 2023 [edit] Rank Group Country Sold vehicles (2023)[18] 1 Toyota Japan 10,307,395 2 Volkswagen Group Germany 9,239,575 3 Hyundai Motor Group South Korea 7,302,451 4 Stellantis Netherlands 6,392,600 5 General Motors United States 6,188,476 6 SAIC China 5,020,000 7 Ford Motor Company United States 4,413,545 8 Honda Japan 4,188,039 9 Nissan Japan 3,374,271 10 Suzuki Japan 3,225,359 11 BYD Auto China 3,024,417 12 BMW Germany 2,555,342 Edited 1 hour ago by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM 1 hour ago (edited) Rocky roads ahead for Tesla as the Chinesse are taking over the Global EV markets The Driven | Tesla slashes prices of Model 3 and Model Y to counter flagging EV sales Tesla is now offering more incentives than ever to help drive more Q4 sales of its best-selling Model 3 and Model Y EVs. . 1 day ago China's total car production in 2023 was a record 30.16 million vehicles, which included 30 million wholesale deliveries. This was an increase from 2022, when China produced 27,020,615 vehicles. China's 2023 production also included 4.91 million units exported, which was a 58% increase. over 50 percent of all cars made in China today are EVs/PHEVs The United States produced almost 10.6 million motor vehicles in 2023. Edited 1 hour ago by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,009 GE 1 hour ago (edited) 19 minutes ago, notsonice said: Do you know that Tesla is the largest auto manufacturer in the world?>>>> Tesla produced 1.85 million vehicles in 2023 which does not put Tesla in the top 12 car companies market cap means nothing...........would anyone buy tesla for 1 trillion dollars............ If you read carefully the quote was "the Tesla Model Y was the best-selling vehicle" not that Tesla sold the most vehicles. Tesla does have the largest market cap (>1T) and generally companies sell for above market cap. Tesla has massive investor confidence - that is all that matters. Oh, and the CEO owns the POTUS elect. Edited 1 hour ago by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM 55 minutes ago 1 minute ago, TailingsPond said: If you read carefully the quote was "the Tesla Model Y was the best-selling vehicle" not that Tesla sold the most vehicles. Tesla does have the largest market cap (>1T) and generally companies sell for above market cap. Tesla has massive investor confidence - that is all that matters. dude you posted...... Do you know that Tesla is the largest auto manufacturer in the world? stop using drugs........ Tesla is not the largest auto manufacturer in the world you think anyone will step up and pay 1 trillion for Tesla???? again stop using drugs I get it you own shares of Tesla and you are in love with Elon.....and your shares.........Basic investing strategy....do not marry your stock shares newsflash no one that owns a Tesla is in love with Elon any more except you?????????? take a time to read this article https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-falling-california-sales-are-bad-for-elon-musk-2024-10 TRANSPORTATION Why Tesla's sales are slipping in California, and what it means for Elon Musk's car company Nora Naughton Oct 30, 2024, 3:19 PM MDT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM 48 minutes ago (edited) Barron's BYD Shows China’s Car Business Isn’t Getting Easier for Anyone, Including Tesla Prices wars have many casualties, including suppliers who get squeezed by customers looking to save money. . 8 hours ago KTVU FOX 2 San Francisco Newsom's proposed EV rebate under fire, as Tesla may not qualify Governor Gavin Newsom is promising to continue the electric vehicle rebate program in California, but his new proposal could exclude Tesla... . 20 hours ago Rest of World How Tesla’s Mexico plans stalled out Progress on Tesla's Mexico gigafactory has stalled; expected completion date of the Monterrey factory has slipped from mid-2024 to 2025 or... . Jun 20, 2024 Electrek Cybertruck backlog runs out, Model S gets stuck, GM hits a sales milestone Tesla's Cybertruck is now available in Canada – and, like in the US, there's no waiting! Plus, we've got an "actually" smart summon Tesla... . 3 weeks ago Torque News MG 4 Takes Top EV Sales Spot In Australia From Tesla MG takes the top sales spot in Australia from the Model Y. Tesla is evolving to become just another car company, and other car brands, like MG, are moving into... . 3 weeks ago Edited 36 minutes ago by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,009 GE 36 minutes ago (edited) 19 minutes ago, notsonice said: dude you posted...... Do you know that Tesla is the largest auto manufacturer in the world? Tesla is not the largest auto manufacturer in the world you think anyone will step up and pay 1 trillion for Tesla???? Oct 30, 2024, 3:19 PM MDT They have the highest selling model, and the largest valuation (1.04T). Nothing I wrote was incorrect. Tesla could use credit instruments to buy both Ford (44.4B) and GM (65.2B). Deny that Elon has a voice in the POTUS elect ear if you want. Maybe consider trying some drugs? Edited 36 minutes ago by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM 24 minutes ago 1 minute ago, TailingsPond said: They have the highest selling model, and the largest valuation (1.04T). Nothing I wrote was incorrect. Tesla could use credit instruments to buy both Ford (44.4B) and GM (65.2B). Deny that Elon has a voice in the POTUS elect ear if you want. you think that Elons sleeping with Trump is good for selling Teslas to Trumpers??????????????? You think Trump is a poster child for the green agenda and buying EVs?????????? ha ha ha Elon is going to change Trump?????? ha ha ha ha a voice in the elect ear?????? good grief and you think that will help sell EVs?????? to fans of Trump.....stop using drugs ha ha ha you are a fool in love with your shares in Tesla . So you think Trump is going to change course and tell his supporters that they all should buy Teslas and dump their clunlers???? ha ha ha ha OK you convince Old ruff neck that he should get rid of his F350's and buy Cybertrucks.....ha ha ha Elon really has laid a giant turd with the Cyber truck and his Tesla car models are outdated..........and overpriced and sales are heading for the dumpster No more waiting for buying a Tesla.....you buy a new one today and you get delivery on the spot....... Nothing I wrote was incorrect.??????????? again stop using drugs Do you know that Tesla is the largest auto manufacturer in the world?????? pure BS the largest valuation?? so you have sold everything you own today and have put it all into Tesla????? of course no one is singing the tune that Tesla sales are booming anymore. hang onto your shares.........you can only hope a new sucker is born today to step up and buy them overpriced and competition is coming out with better vehicles and a lower price........... Competition sucks if you own Tesla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,009 GE 14 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, notsonice said: the largest valuation?? so you have sold everything you own today and have put it all into Tesla????? You are normally above this type of logical error. I am just observing the current state of the market - I don't have to sell everything and put it all into Tesla to notice reality. Do not argue against the empirical data that Tesla is the largest vehicle company by valuation. Saying "the market valuation is wrong" is not an argument against the fact that the market currently values Tesla a lot. Look at the world the way it is not the way it should be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM 8 minutes ago 1 minute ago, TailingsPond said: You are normally above this type of logical error. I am just observing the current state of the market - I don't have to sell everything and put it all into Tesla to notice reality. Do not argue against the empirical data that Tesla is the largest vehicle company by valuation. Saying "the market valuation is wrong" is not an argument against the fact that the market currently values Tesla a lot. Look at the world the way it is not the way it should be. dude ...do you ever go to Vegas????? smart man takes his winning off the table and runs ............... Do not argue against the empirical data that Tesla is the largest vehicle company by valuation.???????? empirical??????? fundamentals point to a lower valuation on every level Hey one should have never argued about the value of Tulips in the 17th century Tulip bubble...ha ha ha at best the real value of Tesla today is maxed out in the 160 to 200 range...enjoy the fall Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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