0R0 + 6,251 June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, -trance said: First off employers have been requiring drug testing, medical exams, etc. for a very long time. You consent to the testing as a condition of the employment, it is not forced on you. Secondly, the military has actually been forcing immunizations and other drugs on soldiers for a very long time. Plenty of mandatory vaccinations. https://www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/Health-Readiness/Immunization-Healthcare/Vaccine-Recommendations/Vaccine-Recommendations-by-AOR You also subject yourself to military law when you join. It does have limits Yes, there are medical requirements that are not asking medical questions. The responses are "fit for work", yes no to drug test. Those are legitimate work related questions that do not tell the employer of a medical condition. Check what the scope of legal employer medical questions are. Very limited, at no time is an employer allowed to ask you about a particular medical condition or treatment status. The preponderance of employers asking these questions regarding testing masking and vaccination will result in a plethora of class action lawsuits. Since the CDC's recommendations have no power of law and its officials have no ethics guidelines prohibiting lying to the public, but the science DOES have the force of law, CDC and illegal government edicts will provide employers no legal cover. This is a nonsense counter on your part as it sweeps the differentiating particulars aside. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 June 18, 2021 (edited) The law allows an employer to condition a job offer on the applicant answering certain medical questions or successfully passing a medical exam, but only if all new employees in the same job have to answer the questions or take the exam. https://www.eeoc.gov/pre-employment-inquiries-and-medical-questions-examinations The federal EEO laws do not prevent an employer from requiring all employees physically entering the workplace to be vaccinated for COVID-19, https://www.eeoc.gov/wysk/what-you-should-know-about-covid-19-and-ada-rehabilitation-act-and-other-eeo-laws Edited June 18, 2021 by Jay McKinsey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-trance + 114 GM June 18, 2021 47 minutes ago, 0R0 said: Those are legitimate work related questions that do not tell the employer of a medical condition. I've undergone several medicals for employment reasons. Almost all the medical information remains private in the physician's file. They just check boxes on the employers form and sign-off on the thing. Funny thing is the amount of examination the doctors have actually done has varied wildly. One time I got a lazy doctor; she took my BP and signed the form saying she performed a physical and I was okay to work. Another time I got vision, hearing, serial blood pressure checks, full body exam including a "digital exam", vaccination records check which resulted in a tetanus booster. I was not too pleased that my employer hired someone to put a finger in my bum! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Gato + 254 Bs June 19, 2021 15 hours ago, Rob Plant said: Yeah if youve had Covid you will have antibodies to the virus obviously or your dead! It is undeniable though that if you have the vaccine you also will have antibodies to protect you!! Interestingly though the vaccine will also make it far more likely that if you do contract the virus it will be less transmissable. Herd immunity is great, bring it on! Lets just get the old, infirm and vulnerable vaccinated first eh! There's no immunity like natural immunity. There are vaccinated people getting covid again all over the place. They tried twice to have cruise sailings ion the US, and both times they had positive covid cases in the crews who were all vaccinated. Your government hates you you appearantly and wants to control you, and appearantly not in very good physical shape as a population I'd wager. Italy had such a large die off to covid due to their older population. There's got to be underlying co-morbidities in the population for the large death count to occur. I'd move to Texas if I were you. Easy to get across the border right now 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN June 19, 2021 17 hours ago, 0R0 said: People receiving the vaccine have no CV19 antibodies at all. The blood banks can not use their blood plasma to produce convalescent plasma to treat CV19 patients. The antibodies produced by the synthetic spike protein are not useful for fighting off the virus. Possibly because the synthetic spike protein folds differently than the one presented by the live virus. It is possible that the vaccines sampled for approval are not what the pharma companies produced for use. "Right now the FDA does not allow the plasma of those vaccinated to be used. The reason why is because the vaccine causes spike antibodies, and for convalescent plasma, they need nucleocapsid antibodies." https://wsiltv.com/2020/12/25/vaccine-could-be-trouble-for-blood-banks-making-plasma-treatments/ ORO You made some extremely important points. Anyone with common sense should recognize that there is a big difference between natural immunity and "cellular hi-jacked spike protein production" which causes the body to react wildly different than natural immunity. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN June 19, 2021 12 hours ago, El Gato said: I'd move to Texas if I were you. Easy to get across the border right now That's funny! and true! In Texas starting September 1st, anyone over age 21 who doesn't have a criminal record can carry a holstered pistol without a license. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN June 19, 2021 The data released yesterday, June 11, 2021, lists 5,888 deaths among 329,021 cases of injuries following COVID-19 shots. There are also another 5,884 life-threatening cases, 43,892 ER visits, 4,583 permanent disabilities, and 19,597 hospitalizations. To put this into perspective, these totals represent a 6-month period since December, 2020, when the FDA gave emergency use authorization to these shots, and the death total now exceeds all deaths recorded in VAERS following vaccinations for the past 29 years, since the beginning of 1992. The European database of suspected drug reaction reports is EudraVigilance, which also tracks reports of injuries and deaths following the experimental COVID-19 “vaccines.” Their report through May 22, 2021 lists 12,184 deaths and 1,196,190 injuries following injections of four experimental COVID-19 shots Do people recognize the significance of that VAERS number (see the RED )? They stopped the Swine Flu vaccine after 25 deaths. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0R0 + 6,251 June 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Tom Nolan said: The data released yesterday, June 11, 2021, lists 5,888 deaths among 329,021 cases of injuries following COVID-19 shots. There are also another 5,884 life-threatening cases, 43,892 ER visits, 4,583 permanent disabilities, and 19,597 hospitalizations. To put this into perspective, these totals represent a 6-month period since December, 2020, when the FDA gave emergency use authorization to these shots, and the death total now exceeds all deaths recorded in VAERS following vaccinations for the past 29 years, since the beginning of 1992. The European database of suspected drug reaction reports is EudraVigilance, which also tracks reports of injuries and deaths following the experimental COVID-19 “vaccines.” Their report through May 22, 2021 lists 12,184 deaths and 1,196,190 injuries following injections of four experimental COVID-19 shots Do people recognize the significance of that VAERS number (see the RED )? They stopped the Swine Flu vaccine after 25 deaths. Take note that there are already 150,000 cases of deaths documented to have been edited out of VAERS database if I got the referenced line item right (it may have been other adverse reactions as well) it is fake. There are people online documenting changes made to the VAERS entries one by one, all million of them. i should add that some airlines are considering a vaccinated passenger ban because of the severe increase in air travel related blood clots among the vaccinated. They are also entering into emergency recruitment and training of pilots to replace those dying of blood clots while flying following a vaccination for CV19. This is going to be a major crimes against humanity case against the vaccine makers and promoters, particularly politicians and government officials, public health authorities, and the social media and MSM that suppressed information on HCQ and other cures. Let's see who Fauci throws under the bus when his time comes up. MSM ratings continue to plunge as some former stars are readily beaten by videos of otters escaping a popcorn machine. Not to speak of "truthers" negating the MSM narratives. The MSM either come on board in reporting truth and win back some market share or face their advertisers leaving them high an dry after having driven their news coverage into corporate/DNC propaganda. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 June 19, 2021 @Rob Plant you're in the UK no? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP June 21, 2021 (edited) On 6/19/2021 at 10:28 PM, Ward Smith said: @Rob Plant you're in the UK no? Ward 11 deaths out of 10K+ is a very low death rate, so an 18% increase on sod all is still sod all. we are currently going through our 3rd wave. What you need to compare is the second wave cases where we had 10K+ cases and had hundreds dying from it each day. The percentage increases you state above are pre 3rd wave and all from an extremely low base. If you compare apples with apples ie second wave data to the third wave data the number of hospitalizations and deaths are a fraction of what they were, even allowing for the Delta variant which is far more transmissable than previous strains. Hospital admissions 'slowly rising' - and it's the young and unvaccinated coming in, warns health boss Hospital admissions are "slowly rising" but are nothing like the rates seen during previous waves, Chris Hopson, chief executive of NHS Providers, has said. He told Times Radio: "Two weeks ago, on 4 June, we had 800 COVID-19 patients in hospital; as of Friday it was 1,170. "In November there were 14,700 and (in the) January/February peak, there were 34,000 people in hospitals with COVID-19. "It's rising relatively slowly but it's nowhere near anything like the kind of numbers we've had in previous waves." Yesterday we had 9284 cases and 6 deaths so I could say latest figures show a 12% reduction in new cases and a 45% reduction in deaths on the numbers you post. Lies damn lies and statistics! https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/ We are now at the stage where we can totally open up and get back to normal Edited June 21, 2021 by Rob Plant 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP June 22, 2021 Latest antibody data is positive news - here's why At 10.33 we told you about the latest ONS data which shows that more than eight in 10 people in the UK are likely to have antibodies. Professor Paul Hunter, professor in Medicine at UEA, has explained why this is such positive news. He said: "The most obvious findings are that in all the age groups over 34 for England the modelled percentage of people with antibodies is over 90% and in the 60 to 79 age groups it is over 95%. "This is remarkably high rate and most of this will be due to the impact of vaccine. "What is perhaps even more reassuring is that in the rate of people aged 25 to 34 is 69% and aged 16 to 24 is 56%. "Given than vaccination has only been offered to all adults in the past few days much of the 16 to 24 age group will have acquired their antibodies from natural infection, only 25% of this group has had a single dose vaccine by the 10th June and somewhat fewer of those would have had their dose long enough ago to have generated antibodies. "Whilst immunity to COVID infection is not guaranteed in people with antibodies the presence of antibody is strongly correlated with at least some degree of protection. So this is very good news, even for younger age groups in that a substantial proportion (probably even the majority) of those younger age groups already have some degree of protection." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN June 23, 2021 Cells in the body have been hijacked to manufacture an unnatural abnormal substance, a spike protein. The spike protein is toxic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sovereign369 0 PA September 29, 2021 Now that we're 3 months from the interview with Ms. Bird, three months more deaths and disabilities from the Kool Aid, does anyone know where the oil and gas industry stand with regards to staffing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN September 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, sovereign369 said: Now that we're 3 months from the interview with Ms. Bird, three months more deaths and disabilities from the Kool Aid, does anyone know where the oil and gas industry stand with regards to staffing? Because we live in an AGE of TYRANTS, I think the landscape changes weekly. The U.S. is trying to catch up to Australia... In Australia, the police are there to protect people. Here is What Happens when a Person Leaves the Apartment House (30 seconds) https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/australia-in-30-seconds This is a pretty good brief summary of the scene in Australia. By Simon Black Australia’s astonishing tyranny keeps growing https://www.sovereignman.com/trends/australias-astonishing-tyranny-keeps-growing-33539/ ~~~~~~~~~~ I think that we will see smaller contractors survive well in this environment comparably, and not be mandated with the vaccines. Tuesday September 28, 2021 – Forbes By Adam Andrzejewski, CEO/Founder of OpenTheBooks.com Biden’s Vax Mandate To Be Enforced By Fining Companies $70,000 To $700,000? [Lots of details in article] https://archive.is/Pdi2k WWW forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/09/28/bidens-vax-mandate-to-be-enforced-by-fining-companies-70000-to-700000/?sh=6a29874c1c0d EXCERPTS President Joe Biden didn’t just announce a Covid-19 vaccine mandate on companies employing 100 or more people, he plans to enforce it. On Saturday, Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s House quietly tucked an enforcement mechanism into their $3.5 trillion “reconciliation” bill, passed it out of the Budget Committee, and sent it to the House floor. Buried on page 168 of the House Democrats’ 2,465-page mega bill is a tenfold increase in fines for employers that “willfully,” “repeatedly,” or even seriously violate a section of labor law that deals with hazards, death, or serious physical harm to their employees. The increased fines on employers could run as high as $70,000 for serious infractions, and $700,000 for willful or repeated violations—almost three-quarters of a million dollars for each fine. If enacted into law, vax enforcement could bankrupt non-compliant companies even more quickly than the $14,000 OSHA fine anticipated under Biden’s announced mandate… …OSHA has already published a rule this year claiming Covid-19 is a workplace hazard, and the agency is using this provision of law to assert and enforce its authority. It is likely the new rule to enforce Biden’s mandate will also use this authority, and by extension use the fines upon enforcement. Huge Crippling OSHA Fines, Likely By Design The crippling change described on page 168 of the Democrats’ bill isn’t a typo or a clerical error. It was inserted by design and, likely, with the hope that no one would notice before Democrats ram the bill through Congress. If enacted, it could bankrupt a whole host of companies that do not believe they should have to comply with the Biden administration’s mandate or harbor the cost of intrusive, weekly tests… …If its provision becomes law, the Biden administration may force American businesses to choose between vaccinating their employees, testing them weekly for Covid-19, or going bankrupt under crippling OSHA fines… …Republicans might want to read page 168 of the Democrats’ bill. After all, as we like to say at OpenTheBooks.com, the text of the bill is online in real time…. Edited September 29, 2021 by Tom Nolan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 September 29, 2021 On 6/14/2021 at 4:29 AM, Rob Plant said: The vaccines are literally preventing thousands of additional deaths each month in the UK https://www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-vaccines-have-prevented-thousands-of-deaths-in-older-adults-new-data-shows Yes, older adults meaning 65 plus. They are mostly retired. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN September 30, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, ronwagn said: On 6/14/2021 at 4:29 AM, Rob Plant said: The vaccines are literally preventing thousands of additional deaths each month in the UK https://www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-vaccines-have-prevented-thousands-of-deaths-in-older-adults-new-data-shows Yes, older adults meaning 65 plus. They are mostly retired. I suspect that that article is Matt Hancock propaganda. For example, at early September's FDA Vaccine Advisory Committee testimony, the undeniable statistics were presented that the shots were killing more people than Covid. Here are parts of the FDA testimony https://www.bitchute.com/video/KwlZU198oGpT/ Edited September 30, 2021 by Tom Nolan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN October 14, 2021 Attorney Jeff Childers walks a person through how to handle job situations. ☕️ Coffee & Covid ☙ Monday, October 11, 2021 ☙ COVID ULTIMATUM GUIDE 🦠 A comprehensive guide for folks facing imminent "vaccinate or terminate" employment policies. https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-coffee-and-covid-monday-october-4e1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN October 14, 2021 Fighting Vaccine Mandates - #SolutionsWatch Corbett • 09/22/2021 • 194 Comments https://www.corbettreport.com/solutionswatch-vaccinemandates/ While the UK is supposedly dropping their vaccine passport idea (for now), things are looking bleak in country after country as people all around the world are facing the threat of vaccine mandates. Today on #SolutionsWatch James explores the array of solutions that are on the table to thwart this threat. Watch on Archive / BitChute / Minds / Odysee or Download the mp4 SHOW NOTES:What’s Going on in Japan? – Questions For Corbett #078 Japan's vaccine passports: Here's what you need to know Suga challenger in LDP leadership race vows huge COVID relief package (Kishida calls for vaccine passport) UK Government drops plans for domestic vaccine passports Did Ayn Rand defeat vaccine passports? President Biden Announces Vaccination Mandate for Employers Australian Premier Dan Andrews: "we are going to lock out the unvaccinated" Italy makes COVID-19 pass mandatory for all workers | DW News Surging Delta variant: France and Greece introduce mandatory vaccinations for healthcare workers Alberta to launch proof-of-vaccination program, declares health emergency Introducing #SolutionsWatch Form for Employees Whose Employers Are Requiring Covid-19 Injections HomeRemedySupply comment on September Open Thread America's Frontline Doctor's Legal Team's "Vaccines and the Law" page Vaccine religious exemption template downloads from Gab.com Doctors for COVID Ethics example forms, templates, letters and other resources Legal principle of non discrimination The COVID-19 “Vaccine” and the Nuremberg Code. Crimes Against Humanity, Genocide No, COVID-19 vaccines do not violate the Nuremberg Code Bioethics and the New EugenicsUnited Airlines warns of unpaid leave for staff given religious vaccine exemptions Religious exemption to vaccine mandates may be difficult to obtain, as Amish case shows How To Meet Like-Minded People Unjected TheFreedomPages The No Vax Mandate Job Board Here’s How To Still Dine At A Restaurant UNVAXXED!! Suss Them Out & Find Out Who’s Cool!! Together Declaration 1000s take over Time Square in NYC for the protest against the mandatory shot “This Is Not Political!” — Thousands Gather At “Freedom Rally” In New York City To Oppose Vaccine Passport Beware of Fake “Resistance” to Mandates Executive Orders and How to Stop Them James Corbett - Ernest Hancock with Arizona Dara (Solutions; BlackMarketFridays.com) The Revolution of the Mind Filed in: Solutions WatchTagged with: vaccines Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites