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16 minutes ago, Starschy said:

The 38 bcm becomes active in 2025 its all long documented by Gazprom.

Poland is in great trouble because they dont get the LNG Volume. Annually the get 4 bcm a year instead of 10 bcm meaning about one third and the rest is by Gazprom. Poland anounced closing of the Gazprom contract end of 2022. As example between June - sept 2021 they imported only below 1 bcm probably fear the relative high price then.

The LNG way is not for big volume contracts.

I think their Swinoujscie (Bay of Pigs?) place only got 5 bcm total capacity.

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In the context of Ukraine, let me note that Russia is currently implementing lets sayĀ the Venezuelan or Iranian variant onĀ Ukraine in accordance with the best practices of the United States.
So there will be no war despiteĀ the hysteria and warmongering, but it will be or is already being calmly implemented during the next winter, let's call it Venezuelan variantĀ by:

-no gas reverse to Ukraine via Hungary
-no thermalĀ coal exports from Russia, Donbass and Kazakhstan to Ukraine
-no electricity exports from Russia and Belarus to Ukraine

In the more radical variants, there is still a very painful for Ukrainians lack of Belarusian diesel exports to Ukraine and even no exports of nuclear fuel by Rosatom to Ukraine, although this would already threaten us with a second Chernobyl and probably would be met with a very harsh attitude from the international community, because itsĀ Ā something elseĀ oppressing the Ukrainians being the equivalent of the US attitude towards Cuba after 1959 and something else a vision of a new Chernobyl, so it would be a very radical option for Putin and Lukashenko.

The Ukrainians are aware of the whip the Belarusians have on them - no diesel and within a week the whole Ukraine is standing. I recommend it in the context of the Polish border conflict with Belarus.

in general, it can be seen that the West is slowly letting go of Ukraine, and the more it de facto forgives it, the more it growls and shows how it will defend it. The same scenario is carried out in Taiwan. This option is quite dangerous for the West because it may end with a solution such as the Suez crisis for France and Great Britain.

Dmitry Trenin tweet from today

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Because seeing Ukraine turn into a U.S.-controlled unsinkable aircraft carrier parked on Russiaā€™s border just a few hundred miles from Moscow is no more acceptable to Kremlin than that other unsinkable aircraft carrier, Cuba, was to the WH So Putin has come to believe that force is the only language the West really understands. Hence, Russiaā€™s foreign policy is increasingly reaching for military instruments when it comes to relations with the US&NATO.

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Polish bussiness press from this week one yearĀ  after huge victory over Gazprom. We won 1,5 bilion $ against Gazprom so now we pay TTF spot prices.Ā 

For comparison, in September Gazprom charged the Germans $ 308 and my calculations show that we wanted spot prices so as requestedĀ we paid $ 570 in the third quarter. 221 złotyĀ for MWhĀ  is about 570 $Ā 

I will also explain that Poland imports 50% of its gas directly from Yamal. 25% of imports are "from Germany." It is not Norwegian gas. It is simple Gazprom's gas received in a virtual reverse on the Polish-German border from the same Yamal . Because this article says something enigmatic about gas "bought in the European Union" , and as you know, neither Norway nor the USA, nor Russia nor Qatar are members of the European Union.

Why the hell to buy gas like Ukraine in a virtual reverse, apart from the propaganda agument for goverment that only half of the gas comes from Russia, I do not really understand (the propaganda argument is quiteĀ important in this topic in Poland)

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We pay the most for gas in six years. A gigantic increase in import costs from Europe

Gas imports from European countries cost Poland the most in six years, reports the Energy Regulatory Office (ERO). We pay an average of PLN 211.54 for MWh of gas in the third quarter of 2021. This is a price six times higher than a year ago.

In the third quarter of 2020, i.e. the year before, we paid an average of PLN 34.88 per MWh for MWh of gas from the European Union and the European Free Trade Association (EFTA). This is six times less than the current price. The price increase has been visible since the beginning of this year. In the second quarter of 2021, MWh of gas from the EU and EFTA countries cost PLN 102.40, and in the first quarter - PLN 85.72 per MWh. The calculations of the Energy Regulatory Office refer to the prices of performed contracts.

The ERO reminds that the prices of foreign contracts affect the prices on the domestic wholesale market, which in turn affect the amount of gas bills paid by end customers in the country. Therefore, Poles feel a direct translation of the increase in prices in their household budgets. An example can be a resident of Słupsk, who showed money.pl her bills. They show that the price of gas increased from PLN 79 to PLN 376 over the year. This is an increase of over 370 percent.

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https://www.money.pl/gospodarka/za-gaz-placimy-najwiecej-od-szesciu-lat-gigantyczny-wzrost-kosztow-importu-z-europy-6705093686270912a.html

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On 10/27/2021 at 1:11 AM, Starschy said:

Thats just US and not very relevant. They can increase old USBonds. There are at least 200 other Countries for lending Money which is not very necessary as Russia holds 800 Bio US in Reserves. around 620Ā Intl. Reserves and close 200 Bio. in their National Wealth fund.

Is the Oil and Gasprice for two weeks above 80 USD additional 5 Bio. go into the Reserves.

May I write something about this horrific destructive sanctions againstĀ Russia (not the impact ofĀ Ā very low oil and NG prices in last 7 years but exclusively sanctions)

So lets start we this

https://helda.helsinki.fi/bof/bitstream/handle/123456789/16334/bpb0219.pdf?sequence=1

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Table 1. Summary of recent studies on the impact of sanctions on Russian GDP
IMF (2019) 2014ā€“2018 āˆ’0.2 p.p. per annum
Pestova and Mamonov (2019) 2014ā€“2015 āˆ’1.2% by the end of 2015
Kholodilin and NetÅ”unajev (2019) 2014ā€“2016 No statistically significant effect
Barsegyan (2019) 2014ā€“2017 Level of per capita GDP on average 1.5% lower

Or newest sanctions because of NavalnyĀ  - RBC well-know liberal journalist Ivan TkachevĀ 

Ā https://twitter.com/IvanTkachev1/status/1428775076669820936

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Those who hoped U.S. would finally issue strong response over Navalny poisoning will be hugely disappointed: State Department announced virtually non-existent sanctions related to Russia as part of second round of CBW Act sanctions.

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If you really want to see how real sanctions from investorsĀ might look like better example is rather Turkey not Russia or Belarus

Because I read all the time that the West allows his bandit Erdogan from NATO to do more nasty thingsĀ more than Lukashenka or Putin

So let me introduce now to USDTRY exchage rate in last 10 years (and this is not because oilĀ Ā has fallen 3 times in 2014-2015)

This is how the West defends Erdogan and attacks Lukashenka thatĀ now even in Istanbul, life seems to beĀ worse today than in Minsk, Belarus.

IĀ Ā immediately proveĀ myĀ thesis because you will say that I am a paid troll of Lukashenka

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Belarus&country2=Turkey&city1=Minsk&city2=Istanbul&tracking=getDispatchComparison

Despite everything else - today in euros the average salary in Minsk is 1/3 higher than in Istanbul (400 vs 300)

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On 10/5/2021 at 7:18 AM, dukeNukem said:

True. Compare nominal GDP is like compare apple and orange. 100 bucks in California and 100 bucks in Russia(Germany, China, e.t.c) are different 100 bucks. If you go to dantist in california, let say, and pay 1000$ the same service you will get in Russia for 150-200$.

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No sorry not evenĀ Ā 150-200. I normally pay 150 złotes per visit which is 40-50 $ in Poland. I think in Russia you will pay even less.

Apart from it I agree with you.

So better comparison will be GDP PPP

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GDP (PPP, US$ million) by country
Country (or territory) Subregion Region IMF[1] World Bank[5] CIA[6]
Estimate Year Estimate Year Estimate Year
23px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_Ā Chinaā€Æ* Eastern Asia Asia 26,656,766 2021 24,273,360 2020 23,009,780 2020
23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.pngĀ United Statesā€Æ* Northern America Americas 22,675,271 2021 20,936,600 2020 19,846,720 2020
23px-Flag_of_India.svg.pngĀ Indiaā€Æ* Southern Asia Asia 10,207,290 2021 9,907,028 2020 8,443,360 2020
23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.pngĀ Japanā€Æ* Eastern Asia Asia 5,585,786 2021 5,328,033 2019 5,224,850 2019
23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.pngĀ Germanyā€Æ* Western Europe Europe 4,743,673 2021 4,469,546 2020 4,238,800 2020
23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.pngĀ Russiaā€Æ* Eastern Europe Europe 4,328,122 2021 4,133,084 2020 3,875,690 2020
23px-Flag_of_Indonesia.svg.pngĀ Indonesiaā€Æ* South-eastern Asia Asia 3,507,239 2021 3,302,377 2020 3,130,470 2020
22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.pngĀ Brazilā€Æ* South America Americas 3,328,459 2021 3,153,597 2020 2,989,430 2020
23px-Flag_of_France.svg.pngĀ Franceā€Æ* Western Europe Europe 3,231,927 2021 3,115,307 2020 2,832,170 2020
23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.pngĀ United Kingdomā€Æ* Northern Europe Europe 3,174,921 2021 3,019,057 2020 2,797,980 2020
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.pngĀ Turkeyā€Æ* Western Asia Asia 2,749,570 2021 2,371,568 2020 2,393,960 2020
23px-Flag_of_Mexico.svg.pngĀ Mexicoā€Æ* North America Americas 2,613,797 2021 2,428,201 2020 2,306,320 2020
23px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.pngĀ Italyā€Æ* Southern Europe Europe 2,610,563 2021 2,491,740 2020 2,322,140 2020
23px-Flag_of_South_Korea.svg.pngĀ South Koreaā€Æ* Eastern Asia Asia 2,436,872 2021 2,233,001 2020 2,187,800 2020
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pnĀ Canadaā€Æ* Northern America Americas 1,978,816 2021 1,827,010 2020 1,742,790 2020
23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.pngĀ Spainā€Æ* Southern Europe Europe 1,959,037 2021 1,815,204 2020 1,714,860 2020
23px-Flag_of_Saudi_Arabia.svg.pngĀ Saudi Arabiaā€Æ* Western Asia Asia 1,705,519 2021 1,627,982 2020 1,543,240 2020
23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.sĀ Australiaā€Æ* Australia, New Zealand Oceania 1,415,564 2021 1,349,040 2020 1,250,900 2020
23px-Flag_of_the_Republic_of_China.svg.pĀ Taiwanā€Æ* Eastern Asia Asia 1,403,663 2021 N/A 1,143,277 2019
23px-Flag_of_Poland.svg.pngĀ Polandā€Æ* Eastern Europe Europe 1,363,766 2021 1,300,375 2020 1,223,460 2020

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Electricity Consumption by Country
  • China - 5.934 trillion.
  • United States - 3.888 trillion.
  • India - 1.176 trillion.
  • Japan - 946.16 billion.
  • Russia - 918.58 billion.
  • Germany - 538.83 billion.
  • Brazil - 516.22 billion.
  • South Korea.- 511.76 billion.

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    # Country Daily Oil Consumption
    (barrels)
    World
    Share
    Yearly Gallons
    Per Capita
    1 United States 19,687,287 20.3 % 934.3
    2 China 12,791,553 13.2 % 138.7
    3 India 4,443,000 4.6 % 51.4
    4 Japan 4,012,877 4.1 % 481.5
    5 Russia 3,631,287 3.7 % 383.2
    6 Saudi Arabia 3,302,000 3.4 % 1,560.2
    7 Brazil 2,984,000 3.1 % 221.9
    8 South Korea 2,605,440 2.7 % 783.4
    9 Canada 2,486,301 2.6 % 1,047.6
    10 Germany 2,383,393 2.5 % 444.5
    11 Mexico 2,052,607 2.1 % 255.1
    12 Iran 1,803,999 1.9 % 347.6
    13 France 1,705,568 1.8 % 404.3
    14 Indonesia 1,623,000 1.7 % 95.1
    15 United Kingdom 1,583,896 1.6 % 366.2
    16 Singapore 1,357,000 1.4 % 3,679.5
    17 Thailand 1,302,000 1.3 % 289.4
    18 Spain 1,290,063 1.3 % 424.1
    19 Italy 1,236,628 1.3 % 312.5
    20 Australia 1,114,645 1.1 % 704.3
    21 Taiwan 981,203 1.0 % 636.9

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14 minutes ago, Tomasz said:

May I write something about this horrific destructive sanctions againstĀ Russia (not the impact ofĀ Ā very low oil and NG prices in last 7 years but exclusively sanctions)

So lets start we this

https://helda.helsinki.fi/bof/bitstream/handle/123456789/16334/bpb0219.pdf?sequence=1

Summary

Or newest sanctions because of NavalnyĀ  - RBC well-know liberal journalist Ivan TkachevĀ 

Ā https://twitter.com/IvanTkachev1/status/1428775076669820936

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If you really want to see how real sanctions from investorsĀ might look like better example is rather Turkey not Russia or Belarus

Because I read all the time that the West allows his bandit Erdogan from NATO to do more nasty thingsĀ more than Lukashenka or Putin

So let me introduce now to USDTRY exchage rate in last 10 years (and this is not because oilĀ Ā has fallen 3 times in 2014-2015)

This is how the West defends Erdogan and attacks Lukashenka thatĀ now even in Istanbul, life seems to beĀ worse today than in Minsk, Belarus.

IĀ Ā immediately proveĀ myĀ thesis because you will say that I am a paid troll of Lukashenka

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Belarus&country2=Turkey&city1=Minsk&city2=Istanbul&tracking=getDispatchComparison

Despite everything else - today in euros the average salary in Minsk is 1/3 higher than in Istanbul (400 vs 300)

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Actually, there is a way for Russians and Turks to make free money off the EU using an observation that no matter what you do, the ruble sucks compared to EUR and the Turkish lira sucks even more. For which purposes, Sber has bought themselves this Turkish bank

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DenizBank

which set up shop in Austria next to Sber. In 2019, somebody important wanted their knee caps broken and Deniz was sold at par value to the cronies of Emirati Central Bank. Looks like the scheme continues as entirely halal interest-free Islamic finance now :)

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On 10/21/2021 at 6:50 PM, Boat said:

Your just lucky the Allied troops saved Russia from Hitler or Putin wouldnā€™t have been around to screw over Europe. Canada has a bigger economy than Russia with about 1/5 the population. Seems like a better destination. Seems Putin struggles helping his people. You might try freedom, it pays better.

You give as example how Western Allies saved USSR by D-DAY.

So let me advise you to read about

1) Battle for Moscow

2) Siege of Leningrad

3) Battle of Stalingrad

4) Battle of Kursk

By the way during D-DAY took place also Operation Bagration also known as Destruction ofĀ Army GroupĀ CentreĀ  Not Ā single one Werhmacht Army but group of several armies. To this day even in western military press this operations is also known as biggest german military defeat in history

But I suppose you have never heard abot Operation BagrationĀ 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bagration

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Operation BagrationĀ (/bŹŒÉ”rŹŒtiĖˆÉ’n/;Ā Russian:Ā ŠžŠæŠµŃ€Š°Ń†Šøя Š‘Š°Š³Ń€Š°Ń‚ŠøŠ¾ĢŠ½, Operatsiya Bagration) was theĀ codenameĀ for the 1944Ā SovietĀ Byelorussian Strategic Offensive Operation[15]Ā (Russian:Ā Š‘ŠµŠ»Š¾Ń€ŃƒŃŃŠŗŠ°Ń Š½Š°ŃŃ‚ŃƒŠæŠ°Ń‚ŠµŠ»ŃŒŠ½Š°Ń Š¾ŠæŠµŃ€Š°Ń†Šøя Ā«Š‘Š°Š³Ń€Š°Ń‚ŠøŠ¾Š½Ā», Belorusskaya nastupatelnaya OperatsiyaĀ Bagration), a military campaign fought between 22 June and 19 August 1944 inĀ Soviet ByelorussiaĀ in theĀ Eastern FrontĀ ofĀ World War II,[16]Ā just over 2 weeks after the start ofĀ Operation OverlordĀ in the west, causing the Germans to have to fight on two major fronts at the same time. The Soviet Union destroyed 28 of 34 divisions ofĀ Army Group CentreĀ and completely shattered the German front line.[17]Ā It was the biggest defeat in German military history, with around 450,000 German casualties,[18]Ā while 300,000 other German soldiers were cut off in theĀ Courland Pocket.

On 22 June 1944,[19]Ā theĀ Red ArmyĀ attacked Army Group Centre inĀ Byelorussia, with the objective of encircling and destroying its main component armies. By 28 June, the GermanĀ 4th ArmyĀ had been destroyed, along with most of theĀ Third PanzerĀ andĀ NinthĀ Armies.[20][21]Ā The Red Army exploited the collapse of the German front line to encircle German formations in the vicinity ofĀ MinskĀ in theĀ Minsk OffensiveĀ and destroy them, with Minsk liberated on 4 July. With the end of effective German resistance in Byelorussia, the Soviet offensive continued on toĀ Lithuania,Ā PolandĀ andĀ RomaniaĀ over the course of July and August.

The Red Army successfully used theĀ Soviet deep battleĀ andĀ maskirovkaĀ (deception) strategies for the first time to a full extent, albeit with continuing heavy losses. Operation Bagration diverted German mobile reserves to the central sectors, removing them from theĀ Lublinā€“BrestĀ andĀ Lvovā€“SandomierzĀ areas, enabling the Soviets to undertake theĀ Lvovā€“Sandomierz Offensive[22]Ā andĀ Lublinā€“Brest Offensive.[23]Ā This allowed the Red Army to reach theĀ VistulaĀ river andĀ Warsaw, which in turn put Soviet forces within striking distance ofĀ Berlin, conforming to the concept of Soviet deep operationsā€”striking into the enemy'sĀ strategic depths.[24]

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15 hours ago, Tomasz said:

But I suppose you have never heard abot Operation BagrationĀ 

I have.Ā 

I also know that the West supplied and mechanized the Russian Army, without which it would have never been able to beat the Wehrmacht. Admittedly, the West needed an ally, but still.Ā 

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On 11/20/2021 at 11:34 AM, Starschy said:

The 38 bcm becomes active in 2025 its all long documented by Gazprom.

Poland is in great trouble because they dont get the LNG Volume. Annually the get 4 bcm a year instead of 10 bcm meaning about one third and the rest is by Gazprom. Poland anounced closing of the Gazprom contract end of 2022. As example between June - sept 2021 they imported only below 1 bcm probably fear the relative high price then.

The LNG way is not for big volume contracts.

If everything goes well, Poland get gas from Norway.Ā Ā https://www.emerging-europe.com/news/as-baltic-pipe-nears-completion-poland-takes-huge-step-towards-energy-diversification/.Ā Ā 

Ths problem here is Norway gas production stagnating, therefore these gas volumes will be substracted from other gas importing countries ( Germany for example). Quite likely Gazprom needs to pump more gas, to compensate Baltic Pipe volumes

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27 minutes ago, dukeNukem said:

If everything goes well, Poland get gas from Norway.Ā Ā https://www.emerging-europe.com/news/as-baltic-pipe-nears-completion-poland-takes-huge-step-towards-energy-diversification/.Ā Ā 

Ths problem here is Norway gas production stagnating, therefore these gas volumes will be substracted from other gas importing countries ( Germany for example). Quite likely Gazprom needs to pump more gas, to compensate Baltic Pipe volumes

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Actually, the Norwegians are not above reselling Russian gas themselves :)

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On 11/21/2021 at 10:48 PM, Rasmus Jorgensen said:

I have.Ā 

I also know that the West supplied and mechanized the Russian Army, without which it would have never been able to beat the Wehrmacht. Admittedly, the West needed an ally, but still.Ā 

It did, but you are overstating the significance of it. Just 11% of all materiel was supplied through lend lease, with most of mechanization being Studebaker 1.5t trucks. All the foods supplied were animal products from 1942 on. USSR never stopped being self-sufficient in grain throughout the war. And it is Soviet army,

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On 11/22/2021 at 4:29 AM, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Actually, the Norwegians are not above reselling Russian gas themselves :)

When Germany, Netherland, England, France asked Norway for Gas do you think Poland is in the Start row? Of course not the other buy much larger Volumes.

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Gazproms record high net profit after 9 Months =21 Billion USD meaning they come close to 30 Billion after 4 Quarters. The Average Gas Price increased from 117 USD to 310 USD.

They made a brilliant Job and they dońt care if Nordstream 2 is a few months later.

I wouldĀ assume that the Dividend could increase over 20 RblĀ 2018 was the highest with 16.61

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11 hours ago, Starschy said:

Gazproms record high net profit after 9 Months =21 Billion USD meaning they come close to 30 Billion after 4 Quarters. The Average Gas Price increased from 117 USD to 310 USD.

They made a brilliant Job and they dońt care if Nordstream 2 is a few months later.

I wouldĀ assume that the Dividend could increase over 20 Cents. 2018 was the highest with 16.61

16.61 is in RUB, not cents...and yes, dividend for 2021 will be more than 40 RUB ( more than 50 cents). In recent presentation Gazprom mentioned that due to high gas prices, gas consumption in EU went down. However, coal and heating oil consumption up.Ā 

So we can say that Germans Greens are againsts NS2, pushing for higher CO2 emissions :)

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On 10/1/2021 at 9:16 PM, ronwagn said:

It looks like a game of chicken. Who gives in first between Deutschland and the Bear. Russia is very good at holding out because their people are tough and used to being poor and cold. The West is getting softer every year. They don't want to work hard and want high pay (I am speaking of many in the young generations). Even many in China want shorter work hours and easier work. Right now they work six days a work 12 hour days, that is my understanding anyway. How about Russia?

In theory working less and having a better life style is not weak or soft. Itā€™s called being smarter. You can celebrate tough all you want but in many cases tough is the result of not being smart enough to take care of yourself and your family. Working 12 hrs a day your working brain dead. Walking through life in a tired daze is just shortening ones life. I give the example of 60 workers building a multistory building with 5 gal buckets using ropes and ladders. Manually mixing the concrete. In the US you will see a pump truck with a dozen concrete trucks lined up. You wanna be tough? Lol our women can drive the trucks and outperform those men with buckets. Donā€™t believe drivel.

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6 minutes ago, Boat said:

In theory working less and having a better life style is not weak or soft. Itā€™s called being smarter. You can celebrate tough all you want but in many cases tough is the result of not being smart enough to take care of yourself and your family. Working 12 hrs a day your working brain dead. Walking through life in a tired daze is just shortening ones life. I give the example of 60 workers building a multistory building with 5 gal buckets using ropes and ladders. Manually mixing the concrete. In the US you will see a pump truck with a dozen concrete trucks lined up. You wanna be tough? Lol our women can drive the trucks and outperform those men with buckets. Donā€™t believe drivel.

Very good points admittedly, but I also see many people in our society who do not want to work any more than absolutely necessary. The younger generation in China and elsewhere also see your points. They have a saying: "Lay down and don't move" or something similar. That is the extreme opposite of working 6/12 meaning six days a week 12 hours or 72 hours a week.Ā 

I definitely support approximately 40 hours in a workweek but realize that the ambition and financial needs or goals of many will require far more hours than that.Ā 

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Yā€™all get so excited like every story is so final. My god the fear of running out of anything. This energy transition will take decades.Ā 
My long standing prediction for peak oil started at 2030. Then IĀ bumped up the timeline to 2027. Tonight marks the change to 2025. That means my guess says world oil consumption has not reached its peak but will byĀ 2026. Since 1950 consumption has averaged roughly 1.5 mbpd growth. COVID amount other factors have slowed recent growth but I think some growth in consumption is left for at least 2-3 years.Ā 

Back in the Oil Drum days it was all about fracking collapse, Saudi and Russia running out. Those posters couldnā€™t have been more wrong. My prediction of peak oil in 2030 was after years of reading about the oil business and global potential. Itā€™s Elon Musk that caused my timeline to move up to 2026. Peak oil is more ofĀ an emotion rather than anything else. Weā€™ll see if the world can slow Elon down. The days of endless oil consumption for vehicular is drawing to a close. I no longer have my Nissan 300 ZX. No more 130 mph with the top off. I read electric cars leave my ol ice hot rod in the dust.Ā 

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23 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

Very good points admittedly, but I also see many people in our society who do not want to work any more than absolutely necessary. The younger generation in China and elsewhere also see your points. They have a saying: "Lay down and don't move" or something similar. That is the extreme opposite of working 6/12 meaning six days a week 12 hours or 72 hours a week.Ā 

I definitely support approximately 40 hours in a workweek but realize that the ambition and financial needs or goals of many will require far more hours than that.Ā 

To much worry about what others do. My day threw hay from the field on a wagon pulled by horses. Took 5 guys. I bailed hay with a buddy and a farmer. Took 3 people and we could do 4x the acres. Today they use the big round bailers. Ran by 1 guy. Then later he uses a tractor with a fork. One guy. So being modern and smart requires less labor. If you praise labor you arenā€™t smart enough to run equipment.Ā 
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One Musk can compensate in labor for a generation of slackers. Lol

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4 hours ago, dukeNukem said:

16.61 is in RUB, not cents...and yes, dividend for 2021 will be more than 40 RUB ( more than 50 cents). In recent presentation Gazprom mentioned that due to high gas prices, gas consumption in EU went down. However, coal and heating oil consumption up.Ā 

So we can say that Germans Greens are againsts NS2, pushing for higher CO2 emissions :)

Secret hint - Russian ruble is almost exactly the same as British pence. So, 16 RUB is 0,16 GBP

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3 hours ago, Boat said:

In theory working less and having a better life style is not weak or soft. Itā€™s called being smarter. You can celebrate tough all you want but in many cases tough is the result of not being smart enough to take care of yourself and your family. Working 12 hrs a day your working brain dead. Walking through life in a tired daze is just shortening ones life. I give the example of 60 workers building a multistory building with 5 gal buckets using ropes and ladders. Manually mixing the concrete. In the US you will see a pump truck with a dozen concrete trucks lined up. You wanna be tough? Lol our women can drive the trucks and outperform those men with buckets. Donā€™t believe drivel.

Anywhere there are multistory buildings, there are also concrete mixing trucks.

Ditto for the apparatus making bales out of hay. It is everywhere. No advantage for USA whatsoever in that.

The future of automotive industry being electrical was sealed by the lowly Toyota Prius. There is nothing unusually innovative about Tesla. Anybody can build a Porsche-fast electrical car with Porsche-sized budget by using laptop parts. The main trick was getting venture funds for it. The outfit wouldn't be profitable today, if it weren't receiving carbon credit payments from other, not 100% electric, car manufacturers.

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On 8/20/2021 at 10:08 AM, ronwagn said:

So, we must demand somewhat close parity on imports and exports. Most Americans want a fair deal. Only the WOKE Corporations want to deal with China. Unfortunately the average American has little choice because the fascist corporations want to keep dealing with China despite it being against America's best interests. We must support India and other Asian countries as well as Mexico and Canada, South America, and Eastern European nations whenever possible. Not finacially but with trade taken from China who is our foe.

Thought to be not really possible, for as long as world trade remains in USD. See

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triffin_dilemma

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Novatek Arctic LNG

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Arctic LNG-2 ā€was covered by loans
The project obtained external financing of EUR 9.5 billion
NOVATEK has completed procurement of project financing for Arctic LNG-2 in the amount of 9.5 billion euros. Although the contracts were generally reached six months ago, the process was hampered by the position of credit agencies in France and Germany. The head of the company, Leonid Mikhelson, even threatened to provide financing to Russian banks, but in the end it was not required.
Arctic LNG-2, the operator of the construction of the gas liquefaction plant in Gydan, announced on November 30 that it has signed contracts with international financial and credit organizations to finance the project. The total amount of funds raised for the period up to 15 years will amount to EUR 9.5 billion (USD 10.65 billion according to the current exchange rate). Loans are attracted in euro because due to US sanctions against NOVATEK, Arctic LNG-2 cannot obtain long-term dollar loans.
The total cost of the project in Gydan, 60% of which is owned by NOVATEK, is estimated at $ 21.3 billion, making external financing for exactly half of the project costs, the rest being provided by shareholders - in addition to NOVATEK, 10% each from Total, China's CNPC and CNOOC, as well as the Japanese Mitsui and JOGMEC consortium.
The external financing scheme will look like this:
Arctic LNG-2 will receive 4.5 billion euros from a consortium of Russian banks - Sberbank, Gazprombank and its structure - Bank GPB International SA, VEB.RF and Otkritie Bank.
Another EUR 2.5 billion will be provided by Chinese financial institutions, including the Chinese Development Bank (CDB) and the Export-Import Bank of China (CEXIM, The Export and Import Bank of China).
In addition, 2.5 billion euros will be provided by "banks from the countries of the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development", according to the "Arctic LNG-2" announcement.
These banks include in particular the Japanese Bank for International Cooperation (JBIC), the disclosure of which was refused by the other NOVATEK participants. The company only noted that we are talking about a few banks for which loans are also guaranteed by export credit agencies.
According to Kommersant's interlocutors, it was widely understood that European banks, including Intesa Sanpaolo and Raiffeisen Bank International AG, could provide 1.2 billion euros under the guarantee of the Italian export agency SACE, the French Bpifrance and the German Hermes. About the same pool of European banks contributed to the financing of the $ 19 billion Yamal LNG project out of a total project cost of $ 27 billion.
However, in September, Novatek boss Leonid Mikhelson said that for political reasons the governments of Germany and France did not support the participation of national credit organizations. He also explained that Russian banks are ready to provide the missing financing. In addition, on October 25, Arctic LNG-2 announced the signing of annexes to loan agreements with Russian banks, according to which the maximum amount of the credit line increased to EUR 5.7 billion, however, judging by the final financing structure of the projects, additional participation by Russian banks was not taken away.
Generally, in the case of Arctic LNG-2, NOVATEK had no major difficulties in obtaining funds, unlike Yamal LNG, when the sudden imposition of sanctions forced a change in the entire financing structure of the projects.
During this time, the company had to obtain more than half of its total external financing volume from Chinese banks, and also ask the Russian government to provide Yamal LNG with funds from the National Property Fund in the form of a loan. In addition, NOVATEK had to sell a 10% stake in Yamal LNG to the Chinese SRF fund, which the company initially did not intend to do.
Andrey Polishchuk from Raiffeisenbank notes that the above-mentioned project financing scheme looks optimal and that the Arctic LNG-2 project currently carries only operational risk. Moreover, considering that the company has experience in launching Yamal LNG, they look low, according to the expert

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Gazprom financial statement after 9 months 2021Ā https://www.gazprom.com/press/news/2021/november/article543813/

1 $ is about 70-75 roubles for the time being

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Today PJSC Gazprom issued its unaudited consolidated interim condensed financial information prepared inĀ accordance with International Accounting Standard 34Ā Interim Financial Reporting (IAS 34) for the nine months ended September 30, 2021.

The table below presents the unaudited consolidated interim condensed statement ofĀ comprehensive income for the nine months ended September 30, 2021Ā and for the nine months ended September 30, 2020. All amounts inĀ the table are presented inĀ millions ofĀ Russian Rubles.

Ā 

Nine months ended
September 30,

Ā 

2021

2020

Sales

6,725,132

4,301,218

Net gain from trading activity

130,491

11,911

Operating expenses

(5,202,452)

(3,944,332)

Impairment loss onĀ financial assets

(63,954)

(43,645)

Operating profit

1,589,217

325,152

Ā 

Ā 

Ā 

Finance income

421,457

527,050

Finance expenses

(289,834)

(1,277,952)

Share ofĀ profit ofĀ associates and joint ventures

225,640

98,727

Profit (loss) before profit tax

1,946,480

(327,023)

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Ā 

Ā 

Current profit tax expense

(245,891)

(57,376)

Deferred profit tax (expenses) income

(120,651)

182,192

Profit tax

(366,542)

124,816

Ā 

Ā 

Ā 

Profit (loss) for the period

1,579,938

(202,207)

Ā 

Ā 

Ā 

Profit (loss) for the period attributable to:

Ā 

Ā 

Owners ofĀ PJSC Gazprom

1,550,299

(218,378)

Non-controlling interest

29,639

16,171

Ā 

1,579,938

(202,207)

More detailed information concerning the main items ofĀ the sales structure isĀ presented inĀ the table below.

inĀ RUBĀ million (unless indicated otherwise)

Nine months ended
September 30,

Ā 

2021

2020

Sales ofĀ gas

Ā 

Ā 

Europe and other countries

Ā  Ā 

Net sales (net ofĀ excise tax and customs duties)

2,460,824

1,135,130

Volumes inĀ bcm

175.7

154.4

Average price, RUBĀ per mcm (including excise tax and customs duties)

17,838.9

9,165.0

Former Soviet Union countries

Ā 

Ā 

Net sales (net ofĀ customs duties)

267,303

199,546

Volumes inĀ bcm

24.1

21.3

Average price, RUBĀ per mcm (including customs duties)

12,248.4

9,829.0

Russian Federation

Ā 

Ā 

Net sales (net ofĀ VAT)

732,584

622,882

Volumes inĀ bcm

170.0

151.1

Average price, RUBĀ per mcm (net ofĀ VAT)

4,308.4

4,122.9

Total gas sales

Ā 

Ā 

Retroactive gas price adjustments

5

2,324

Net sales (net ofĀ excise tax, VAT and customs duties)

3,460,716

1,959,882

Volumes inĀ bcm

369.8

326.8

Ā 

Ā 

Ā 

Net sales ofĀ refined products (net ofĀ excise tax, VAT and customs duties)

1,858,231

1,301,542

Net sales ofĀ crude oil and gas condensate (net ofĀ VAT and customs duties)

622,682

343,161

Electric and heat energy net sales (net ofĀ VAT)

415,744

348,467

Gas transportation net sales (net ofĀ VAT)

166,737

163,838

Other sales (net ofĀ VAT)

201,022

184,328

Total sales (net ofĀ excise tax, VAT and customs duties)

6,725,132

4,301,218

Net sales ofĀ gas increased byĀ RUBĀ 1,500,834 million, orĀ 77Ā %, compared toĀ the same period ofĀ the prior year toĀ RUBĀ 3,460,716 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2021. The increase ofĀ sales was mainly toĀ anĀ increase ofĀ sales ofĀ gas toĀ Europe and other countries.

Net sales ofĀ gas toĀ Europe and other countries increased byĀ RUBĀ 1,325,694 million, orĀ 117Ā %, toĀ RUBĀ 2,460,824 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2021 compared toĀ the same period ofĀ the prior year. The change was mainly due toĀ anĀ increase inĀ average prices (including excise tax and customs duties) denominated inĀ the Russian Ruble byĀ 95Ā % and anĀ increase inĀ volumes ofĀ gas sold byĀ 14Ā %, orĀ 21.3 bcm. AtĀ the same time average prices denominated inĀ USĀ Dollar increased byĀ 87Ā %.

Net sales ofĀ gas toĀ Former Soviet Union countries increased byĀ RUBĀ 67,757 million orĀ 34Ā %, toĀ RUBĀ 267,303 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2021 compared toĀ the same period ofĀ the prior year. The change was due toĀ anĀ increase inĀ average prices (including customs duties) denominated inĀ the Russian Ruble byĀ 25Ā % and anĀ increase inĀ volumes ofĀ gas sold byĀ 13Ā %, orĀ 2.8 bcm. AtĀ the same time average prices denominated inĀ USĀ Dollar increased byĀ 20Ā %.

Net sales ofĀ gas inĀ the Russian Federation increased byĀ RUBĀ 109,702 million, orĀ 18Ā %, toĀ RUBĀ 732,584 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2021 compared toĀ the same period ofĀ the prior year. This change was mainly explained byĀ anĀ increase inĀ volumes ofĀ gas sold byĀ 13Ā %, orĀ 18.9Ā bcm, and anĀ increase inĀ average prices (net ofĀ VAT) byĀ 4Ā %.

Net sales ofĀ refined products (net ofĀ excise tax, VAT and customs duties) increased byĀ RUBĀ 556,689 million, orĀ 43Ā %, toĀ RUBĀ 1,858,231 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2021 compared toĀ the same period ofĀ the prior year. The increase inĀ net sales ofĀ refined products was mainly due toĀ anĀ increase inĀ average prices inĀ all geographic segments.

Net sales ofĀ crude oil and gas condensate (net ofĀ VAT and customs duties) increased byĀ RUBĀ 279,521 million, orĀ 81Ā %, toĀ RUBĀ 622,682 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2021 compared toĀ the same period ofĀ the prior year. The change was mainly due toĀ anĀ increase inĀ net sales ofĀ crude oil primarily caused byĀ anĀ increase inĀ average prices ofĀ crude oil.

Operating expenses increased byĀ RUBĀ 1,258,120 million, orĀ 32Ā %, toĀ RUBĀ 5,202,452 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2021 compared toĀ the same period ofĀ the prior year.

The increase inĀ operating expenses was mainly caused byĀ the increase ofĀ expenses inĀ the item ā€œPurchased gas and oilā€ byĀ RUBĀ 534,972 million, orĀ 85Ā %, for the nine months ended September 30, 2021 compared toĀ the same period ofĀ the prior year was caused byĀ anĀ increase inĀ average prices ofĀ oil and gas and volumes ofĀ the oil purchase.

The increase inĀ the item ā€œTaxes other than onĀ profitā€ byĀ RUBĀ 204,586 million, orĀ 22Ā %, for the nine months ended September 30, 2021 compared toĀ the same period ofĀ the prior year, was mainly due toĀ anĀ increase inĀ mineral extraction tax expenses, which was partially compensated byĀ aĀ decrease inĀ excise tax expenses. The increase inĀ mineral extraction tax expenses mainly caused byĀ anĀ increase inĀ crude oil prices, tax rate asĀ aĀ result ofĀ the tax maneuver and anĀ increase inĀ volumes ofĀ gas production.

The balance ofĀ foreign exchange differences reflected within the item ā€œNet finance income (expense)ā€Ā produced the gain inĀ the amount ofĀ RUBĀ 135,636 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2021 compared toĀ the loss inĀ the amount ofĀ RUBĀ 749,452 million for the same period ofĀ the prior year.

Gain attributable toĀ the owners ofĀ PJSC Gazprom amounted toĀ RUBĀ 1,550,299 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2021.

Adjusted EBITDA (calculated asĀ the sum ofĀ operating profit, depreciation, impairment loss orĀ reversal ofĀ impairment loss onĀ financial assets and non-financial assets, less changes ofĀ allowance for expected credit losses onĀ accounts receivable and impairment allowance onĀ advances paid and prepayments) increased byĀ RUBĀ 1,278,451 million, orĀ 137Ā %, for the nine months ended September 30, 2021 compared toĀ the same period ofĀ the prior year and amounted toĀ RUBĀ 2,213,614 million. This change was mainly due toĀ anĀ increase inĀ sales.

Net debt balance (defined asĀ the sum ofĀ short-term borrowings and the current portion ofĀ long-term borrowings, short-term promissory notes payable, long-term borrowings, long-term promissory notes payable, less cash and cash equivalents) decreased byĀ RUBĀ 388,124 million, orĀ 10Ā %, from RUBĀ 3,872,695 million asĀ ofĀ December 31, 2020Ā to RUBĀ 3,484,571 million asĀ ofĀ September 30, 2021. This change was mainly due toĀ anĀ increase inĀ cash and cash equivalents.

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15 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Thought to be not really possible, for as long as world trade remains in USD. See

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triffin_dilemma

We have just added two or three trillion dollars to the world supply!

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