Will Variants and Ill-Health Continue to Plague Economic Outlooks?

[Andrei Moutchkine + 828]

1 hour ago, Rob Plant said:

Or is it that the UK tests nearly 4 times as many people than Russia??

Hmmm let me think.

That's impressive! How exactly does this help you detect additional dead, do tell?

[Andrei Moutchkine + 828]

15 hours ago, Wombat One said:

Let me tell you a few things about Australia Andrei. Not just international pressure, but also pressure from our tourism industry. Australians are wealthy and like to travel a lot, so we gotta get our airlines back in shape. As for inbound tourism, we gotta accept that some other countries have crap vaccines but we need to open our doors again. Omicron was the final straw for the Australian public. We were told by our politicians that we would be free again when we were 90% vaccinated so we have held them to account. Let them know they would get booted out of office if they kept us in a vice one minute longer than necessary.

I need to come over and check if you all are really upside down there. That would explain a lot about you!

[Rob Plant + 2,756]

17 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

That's impressive! How exactly does this help you detect additional dead, do tell?

It tells you if they had Covid when they died, if you dont test for it then you dont know do you! Jeez

Countries that do sod all testing have great Covid death rates, well who'd have thought it eh?

As for "additional deaths" the Uk is a very small island with 68 million people living in it so its a bit crowded compared to Russia, USA etc much harder to have social distancing etc.

Edited January 18, 2022 by Rob Plant

[Andrei Moutchkine + 828]

16 hours ago, Wombat One said:

As I was saying, an article about covid rates called "denouncing white supremacist narratives" kinda proves my point. The WHO and other organisations are always pointing out that the global estimate of deaths is most likely far less than the actual number. And on Western TV, we are constantly bombarded with crap about how sophisticated Africa has become all of a sudden. My BS detector is going into overdrive right now.

At least the Russian figures seem to be telling the truth for a change. Looks like you are vying with Greece for highest number of deaths/capita? So much for your superior vaccine. 

COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer (worldometers.info)

Only Australia and China have had any real success. And a cpl small Island states.

BTW, very often does tabulated data like in the Wiki or the link above allow for an asc/desc ordering based on a specific column as primary. For example, by #dead per million. All you need to do is to click the little up and down arrows on the column head.  This feature could be truly empowering in your researches!

[Rob Plant + 2,756]

6 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Only half of Russian population is vaccinated.

San Marino, the only territory to be fully vaccinated with Sputnik, had a zero incidence before the Omikron wave.

According to this latest summary (Jan 17)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

There are a bunch of countries doing worse than Russia, notably UK and US (though UK is real close, only a Tunisia away)

The real champions are Burundi and China, you are not in the same league. The Kiwis are closer to achieving African-grade health.

Mysterious is Cuban negative death rate for last week. They dusted off some zombies and found that they really are OK?

Yeah data is a bitch

If you do the same search on worldometer (which you have referenced previously) San Marino has the 12th worst deaths per 1M population. A lot worse than the UK (31st) , USA (19th), Russia (32nd)

Peru is 1st on both by a mile so I'm sure they must be the worst.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Oh who to believe??

I guess Sputnik aint all that after all, or is it?

Lies lies and damn statistics! 🤣

[Andrei Moutchkine + 828]

49 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

It tells you if they had Covid when they died, if you dont test for it then you dont know do you! Jeez

Countries that do sod all testing have great Covid death rates, well who'd have thought it eh?

As for "additional deaths" the Uk is a very small island with 68 million people living in it so its a bit crowded compared to Russia, USA etc much harder to have social distancing etc.

Everybody dies of Covid these days, in Russia same as UK. Because doctors get extra pay from pandemic slush funds. That is, they sure test all the dead and call them Covid dead if they had any Covid at all, regardless of whether it was the actual cause.

There is no difference in the rate of Covid testing of the dead. As well as of anybody who already happens to be in any kind of medical facility, anyway. Reputable countries possibly still have a higher test rate of the free-roaming population then Russia, but I wouldn't bet on it. Why would you keep test somebody instead of trying to vaccinate them instead? Seems kinda futile.

USA is doing worse than UK. UK and Russia are really right next to each other.

[Andrei Moutchkine + 828]

 

18 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

Yeah data is a bitch

If you do the same search on worldometer (which you have referenced previously) San Marino has the 12th worst deaths per 1M population. A lot worse than the UK (31st) , USA (19th), Russia (32nd)

Peru is 1st on both by a mile so I'm sure they must be the worst.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Oh who to believe??

I guess Sputnik aint all that after all, or is it?

Lies lies and damn statistics! 🤣

Except that they don't have a million population. For about 10K total cases and 103 total deaths, actually most comparable with Gibraltar at #13 (which had 100 for about the same number of cases) Note that they had not a single new dead for entire 2020 (stuck at 43) and have about 4x the number of active cases now compared to previous peak. Which suggests that original Sputnik does not work too well for Omikron, but did work pretty damn well before.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/san-marino/

Edited January 18, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine

[Tom Nolan + 2,443]

https://www.globalresearch.ca/high-recorded-mortality-in-countries-categorized-as-covid-19-vaccine-champions-increased-hospitalization/5757173

High Recorded Mortality in Countries Categorized as “Covid-19 Vaccine Champions”. The Vaccinated Suffer from Increased Risk of Mortality

Data on Mortality in the Most Vaccinated Countries. Increased Hospitalizations of the Vaccinated

we will make the current sanitary assessment of the most vaccinated countries according to the figures provided by the World Health Organization and the curves of OurWorldinData. (From Vaccine outset in December 2020 to September 15, 2021)

Record mortality in Gibraltar, champion of Astra Zeneca injections

Gibraltar (34,000 inhabitants) started vaccination in December 2020 when the health agency counted only 1040 confirmed cases and 5 deaths attributed to covid19 in this country. After a very comprehensive vaccination blitz, achieving 115% coverage (vaccination was extended to many Spanish visitors), the number of new infections increased fivefold (to 5314) and the number of deaths increased 19fold. The number of deaths increased 19-fold, reaching 97, i.e. 2853 deaths per million inhabitants, which is one of the European mortality records. But those responsible for the vaccination deny any causal link without proposing any other plausible etiology. And after a few months of calm, the epidemic resumed, confirming that 115% vaccination coverage does not protect against the disease.

Malta: 84% vaccine coverage, but just as ineffective

Malta is one of the European champions of pseudo-vaccines: on this island of 500,000 inhabitants, nearly 800,000 doses have been administered, ensuring a vaccine coverage of nearly 84% with a delay of about 6 months.

But since the beginning of July 2021, the epidemic has started again and the serious (fatal) forms are increasing, forcing the authorities to recognize that vaccination does not protect the population and to impose restrictions.

Here again, the recurrence of the epidemic in terms of cases and mortality proves that a high rate of vaccination does not protect the population.

In Iceland, people no longer believe in herd immunity

In this small country of 360,000 inhabitants, more than 80% are primo-vaccinated and 75% have a complete vaccination cycle. But by mid-July 2021, new daily infections had risen from about 10 to about 120, before stabilizing at a rate higher than the pre-vaccination period. This sudden recurrence convinced the chief epidemiologist of the impossibility of obtaining collective immunity through vaccination. “It’s a myth,” he publicly declared.

Belgium: recurrence of the disease despite vaccination

Trends in Mortality and Morbidity in the Most Vaccinated Countries : Twenty-one Proven Facts

In Belgium, nearly 75% of the population is primo-vaccinated. And 65% of the population has a complete vaccination cycle. However, since the end of June 2021, the number of new daily infections has risen from less than 500 to nearly 2000. As RTBF acknowledges, in the face of the Delta variant, current vaccination is far from sufficient to protect the population.

Singapore abandons the hope of “Zero Covid” through vaccines

This small country is also highly vaccinated and nearly 80% of the population has received at least one dose. But since August 20, 2021, it has had to face an exponential resumption of the epidemic with an increase in cases from about ten in June to more than 150 at the end of July and 1246 cases on September 24.

This uncontrolled recurrence of the disease despite vaccination has led to the abandonment of the strategy of eradicating the virus for a model of “living with the virus” by trying to treat the disease “like the flu“.

In the UK: a worrying rise in infections

The United Kingdom is the European champion of Astra Zeneca vaccination, with more than 70% of the population vaccinated for the first time, and 59% with a complete vaccination schedule. This high “vaccination” rate did not prevent an explosion of cases at the beginning of the summer, with up to 60,000 new cases per day by mid-July.

Faced with this significant resumption of the epidemic despite vaccination, Andrew Pollard, representative of the Oxford Vaccine Group, acknowledged before Parliament: “collective immunity through vaccination is a myth“.

This resumption of infections has been accompanied by a resumption of hospitalizations, severe cases and deaths. According to the official report of August,[2] deaths were more frequent among fully vaccinated patients (679) than among non-vaccinated patients (390), thus cruelly denying the hopes of a protective effect of the vaccine on mortality.

After the last sanitary restrictions were lifted, the epidemic decreased to a level of less than 30,000 cases per day, whereas at the beginning of July, simulations by covid specialists were predicting up to 100,000 new cases per day if the sanitary measures were removed.

Israel: obvious post-vaccination disaster denied by officials

Israel, champion of the Pfizer injection, once everywhere cited as an example of effectiveness, is now being harshly reminded of reality and is now the model of vaccine failure.

70% of the population is primo-vaccinated, and nearly 90% of those at risk have a complete vaccination cycle. But the epidemic has rebounded stronger than ever since the end of June, and more than 11,000 new cases were recorded in 1 day (September 14, 2021) surpassing the peaks seen in January 2021 during the outbreak following the first Pfizer injections by nearly 50%.

This resumption of the epidemic, despite the Pfizer injections, is accompanied by an increase in hospitalizations where the vaccinated represent the majority of those hospitalized.

Vaccination does not protect against severe forms of the disease or against death.

End of July: 71% of the 118 seriously ill Israelis (serious, critical) were fully vaccinated!

This proportion of seriously ill people vaccinated is much higher than the proportion of fully vaccinated people: 61%. To claim that the vaccine protects against serious forms of the disease, as the Israeli Minister of Health imprudently declared, is a mistake (or disinformation?).

In order not to acknowledge its mistakes, the Israeli government remains in denial of this obvious failure and continues to propose only vaccination as a solution. How many more deaths will it take before it follows the example of India or Japan and finally adopts early treatment?

Conclusions

The current pseudo vaccines are not effective enough. They do not prevent the recurrence of the epidemic, nor hospitalizations, nor severe forms, nor death. In Israel and Great Britain, which specify the vaccination status of the victims, the vaccinated suffer from an increased risk of mortality compared to the non-vaccinated.

The pursuit of a vaccine-only policy leads to a deadly impasse, whereas countries that officially advise early treatment (India) or allow their doctors to prescribe it (Japan, Korea) fare much better.

What are our health authorities waiting for to stop believing in false simulations carried out by epidemiologists who are too closely linked to vaccine companies, to look at the proven facts and to interrupt their deceptive and deleterious pro-vaccination campaign and recommend early treatment?

The continuation of the ban on early treatment by treating physicians leads to a loss of chances for many patients and directly engages the responsibility of the government and particularly the Minister of Health.

Dr Gérard Delépine is an oncologist and statistician

Translated from French by Global Research.

Notes

[1] For the first time in 2500 years…

[2] SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England Technical briefing 21
Published August 2021 Public Health England Gateway number : GOV 9374 20 August 2021

The original source of this article is nouveau-monde.ca, published on our French language web site mondialisation.ca
Copyright © Dr. Gérard Delépine, nouveau-monde.ca, 2021

The original source of this article is Global Research

Copyright © Gérard Delépine, Global Research, 2022

 

 

[Tom Nolan + 2,443]

https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/15/triple-vaccinated-developing-ade/

Official data suggests the Triple Vaccinated are developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome at an alarming rate

By The Exposé on January 15, 2022

An in-depth investigation of 5 months worth of official UK Government data published by the UK Health Security Agency seems to confirm predictions previously made by The Expose that the Covid-19 “booster” dose would provide a very short lived temporary boost to the immune systems of the vaccinated population before decimating their immune systems much more rapidly than had already been seen in people who had received two doses of the Covid-19 vaccine.

In short, official UK Government data strongly suggests that the Covid-19 vaccinated population are developing some new form of Covid-19 vaccine induced acquired immunodeficiency syndrome.

The UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) publish a weekly Vaccine Surveillance Report, with each report containing four weeks worth of data on Covid-19 cases, hospitalisations, and deaths by vaccination status. For our investigation we analysed 5 of these published Vaccine Surveillance Reports containing data from August 16th 2021 to January 2nd 2022, in order to get a clear picture on the effect the Covid-19 vaccines are having on the immune systems of the vaccinated population, and this is what we found…

The UKHSA Vaccine Surveillance Reports used for our investigation can all be found here –

• ‘Covid-19 Vaccine Surveillance Report – Week 37’ (Published by PHE)
• ‘Covid-19 Vaccine Surveillance Report – Week 41’ (Published by UKHSA)
• ‘Covid-19 Vaccine Surveillance Report – Week 45’ (Published by UKHSA)
• ‘Covid-19 Vaccine Surveillance Report – Week 49’ (Published by UKHSA)
• ‘Covid-19 Vaccine Surveillance Report – Week 1 – 2022’ (Published by UKHSA)

Real-World Covid-19 Vaccine Effectiveness

Pfizer claim that their Covid-19 mRNA injection has a vaccine effectiveness of 95%. They were able to claim this because of a simple calculation (full details of which can be viewed here) performed on the number of infections confirmed amongst the vaccinated group and the not-vaccinated group during the earliest stages of the still ongoing clinical trials.

Now, thanks to a wealth of data published by the UK Health Security Agency we are able to use the same calculation that was used to calculate 95% effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine, to calculate the real world effectiveness of the Covid-19 vaccines, and the data unfortunately paints an extremely concerning picture.

The week 37 Vaccine Surveillance report included the number of Covid-19 cases by vaccination status between week 33 and week 36 of 2021 (August 16th to September 12th). Because the report tells us the Covid-19 case rates per 100,000 people among the unvaccinated and two dose vaccinated population we are able to calculate the real-world vaccine effectiveness during this period, and it proved to be as follows –

Source

The real-world effectiveness of all available Covid-19 vaccines combined was as low as minus-47% in the 60-69 age group, and as high as +66% in the under 18 age group between August 16th and September 12th 2021. The only other age groups that the vaccine was showing to have positive effect at this point were 18-29, 30-39, and 80+. But as you can clearly see none of the age groups were showing a vaccine effectiveness anywhere near 95%.

However, just look at how the tables turn just one month later.

The week 41 Vaccine Surveillance report included the number of Covid-19 cases by vaccination status between week 37 and week 40 of 2021 (September 13th to October 10th), and the real-world vaccine effectiveness during this period was proving to be as follows –

Source

The real-world effectiveness of all available Covid-19 vaccines combined was as low as minus-109% in the 40-49 age group, and as high as +89% in the under 18 age group between September 13th and October 10th 2021. The only other age group that the vaccine was showing to have positive effect at this point was 18-29.

What’s concerning here though is how far the real-world effectiveness of the vaccine has fallen in all age groups, but especially the 40-49 age group which fell from a real world of effectiveness of minus-36% to minus-109%.

The fact that the real-world effectiveness of the vaccines had surpassed the minus-100% barrier in suggested that not only were the vaccines failing, but they were also completely decimating the immune system of the recipients.

This makes the next Vaccine Surveillance report frightening reading.

The week 45 Vaccine Surveillance report included the number of Covid-19 cases by vaccination status between week 41 and week 44 of 2021 (October 11th to November 7th), and the real-world vaccine effectiveness during this period was proving to be as follows – –

Source

The real-world effectiveness of all available Covid-19 vaccines combined was as low as minus-126% in the 40-49 age group, and as high as +78% in the under 18 age group between October 11th to November 7th 2021. The only other age group that the vaccine was showing to have positive effect at this point was again 18-29.

What’s concerning here is that two more age-groups have surpassed the minus-100% barrier, with the 50-59 age group falling to minus-116% and the 60-69 age group falling to minus-120%. But what is perhaps more concerning is that the effectiveness of the Covid-19 injections has continued to decline in the 40-49 age group after already surpassing the minus-100% barrier in the previous month.

What we can also see from the above is that the effectiveness of the Covid-19 injection in persons over the age of 80 has climbed from minus-22% to minus-9 percent. This coincides with the booster jab roll-out to this age group, suggesting the vaccines do in fact boost the immune system But it is worth noting that there is still a negative effectiveness in this age group, and it still lower than the minus-3% effectiveness seen between week 33 and week 36 of 2021.

The week 49 Vaccine Surveillance report however, provides a much clearer picture on the effect of the boosters on the vaccinated population in the short term.

The week 49 Vaccine Surveillance report included the number of Covid-19 cases by vaccination status between week 45 and week 48 of 2021 (November 8th to December 5th), and the and the real-world vaccine effectiveness during this period was proving to be as follows –

The real-world effectiveness of all available Covid-19 vaccines combined was as low as minus-120% in the 40-49 age group, and as high as +80% in the under 18 age group between November 8th to December 5th 2021. The real-world effectiveness of the Covid-19 injections actually only decreased in the 18-29-year-olds and 30-39-year-olds during these four weeks.

People over the age of 70 were rewarded with a major boost to their immune systems over these four weeks, with vaccine effectiveness proving to be +27% in 70-79-year-olds between 8th Nov and 5th Dec 21, compared to minus-84% between 11th Oct and 7th Nov 21.

Whilst vaccine effectiveness in people over the age of 80 increased to +47% between 8th Nov and 5th Dec 21, compared to minus-9% between 11th Oct and 7th Nov 21.

Everyone between the age of 40 and 69 was also rewarded with a boost to their immune system during this period, however not enough to show a positive vaccine effectiveness. This boost in vaccine effectiveness coincides with when the booster shots were administered to each age group as can be seen in the below graph taken from the UKHSA Vaccine Surveillance Report – Week 1 – 2022.

Source – Page 23

Based on vaccine effectiveness turning positive in everyone over the age of 70 following the booster shot after previously showing a negative effectiveness, we should expect to see a much improved vaccine effectiveness in 40-69-year-olds in the next published Vaccine Surveillance Report.

But unfortunately this isn’t the case.

The week 1 – 2022- Vaccine Surveillance report included the number of Covid-19 cases by vaccination status between week 49 and week 52 of 2021 (December 6th to January 2nd), and the and the real-world vaccine effectiveness during this period proved to be as follows –

Real-world vaccine effectiveness dropped to the lowest levels yet across all age groups except for the over 70’s between December 6th and January 2nd, but the over 70’s still dropped into negative effectiveness.

The expected further boost to 40 to 69-year-olds did not materialise and instead a huge tumble in vaccine effectiveness was recorded, dropping to -151% in 40-49-yer-olds.

Vaccine effectiveness also tumbled in the 30-39-year-old age group to minus-123%, despite the booster jab being administered to millions in week 49.

The following graph illustrates the increase/decrease in vaccine effectiveness by the month among each age group over a period of 5 months from 16th Aug 21 to 2nd Jan 22.

The first booster shots were administered in week 37 of 2021, and this graph illustrates clearly how they provided a boost in vaccine effectiveness in the following two months. But unfortunately it also shows how short lived this boost was with the effectiveness of the Covid-19 vaccines falling to frightening levels between week 49 and 52.

But what does a positive / negative vaccine effectiveness actually mean?

Vaccines work by simulating a viral attack and provoking the immune system into responding as if you have had the virus. They are supposed to train the immune system to the point where you develop natural immunity to the virus. Therefore, vaccine effectiveness is really a measure of the immune system performance induced by the vaccine.

A vaccine effectiveness of +50% would mean that the fully vaccinated are 50% more protected against Covid-19 than the unvaccinated. In other words the fully vaccinated have an immune system that is 50% better at tackling Covid-19.

A vaccine effectiveness of 0% would mean that the fully vaccinated are 0% more protected against Covid-19 than the unvaccinated, meaning the vaccines are ineffective. In other words the fully vaccinated have an immune system that is equal to that of the unvaccinated at tackling Covid-19.

Whilst a vaccine effectiveness of -50% would mean that the unvaccinated were 50% more protected against Covid-19 than the fully vaccinated, meaning the vaccines actually decimate the immune system.

Therefore with the real-world effectiveness of the Covid-19 vaccines proving to be negative in everyone over the age of 18 in England, this means double/triple vaccinated adults immune systems are being decimated.

Immune System Performance

The formula used to calculate the real-world effectiveness of the Covid-19 vaccines was based on the exact calculation used by Pfizer to demonstrate that their vaccine had an alleged effectiveness of 95%.

• U = No. of Cases among the unvaccinated  
• V = No. of Cases among the fully vaccinated
• U – V / U = Vaccine Effectiveness

However in order to calculate the immune system performance we need to perform a slightly different calculation that divides the answer to U – V by the largest of the number of cases among either the unvaccinated or fully vaccinated.

Therefore, the calculation for a positive immune system performance is –

U – V / U

Whilst the calculation for a negative immune system performance is –

U – V / V

The following table shows the monthly boost/decline in the immune systems of the vaccinated population compared to the natural immune systems of the unvaccinated population-

This shows that as of the 2nd January 2021 (Month 5), triple/double vaccinated 40-49-year-olds currently have the worst immune system performance at -60%. But they are closely followed by 30-39-year-olds at -58%, 18-29-year-olds and 50-59-year-olds at -55%, and 60-69-year-olds at -47%.

The following graph illustrates the overall immune system performance among all age groups in England over the past 5 months –

What we can see from the above is that the immune system performance for adults aged between 18 and 59 has deteriorated to the worst levels yet since they were given the Covid-19 vaccine. Whilst the immune system performance of everyone over the age of 60 has deteriorated dramatically following receipt of the booster shot, but not yet to the level seen between week 37 and week 40.

The over 70’s have however seen the most dramatic fall in immune system performance between month 4 and month 5 alongside 18-29-year-olds.

The 55% boost to the immune systems of the over 80’s given by the boosters between month 3 and month 4 has all but deteriorated between month 4 and month 5. Their immune system is performing 1% better than it was in month 3 but still 54% worse than their unvaccinated counterparts.

The 73% boost to the immune systems of the 70-79-year-olds given by the boosters between month 3 and month 4 has also all but deteriorated between month 4 and month 5. Their immune system is performing 10% better than it was in month 3 but still 63% worse than their unvaccinated counterparts.

The minor boost however, given to the immune Systems of everyone between the age of 30 and 59 by the boosters between month 3 and 4 has been completely decimated by the following month, whilst 18-29-year-olds have seen a 60% decline in their immune system performance between months 4 and 5.

The following graph illustrates the boost/degradation in immune system performance among all age groups in England over the past 5 months –

Covid-19 Vaccine Induced Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome

The real-world effectiveness of the Covid-19 injections wains significantly in a short amount of time, but unfortunately for the vaccinated population, rather than the immune system returning to the same state it was prior to vaccination, the immune system performance begins to rapidly decline making it inferior to that of the unvaccinated.

Now the official UK Government data proves that a booster dose of the vaccine can give a short term boost to the immune system of the vaccinated, but unfortunately this same data shows that the immune system performance then begins to decline even faster than it was prior to the booster dose being given.

This data therefore suggests that the vaccinated population will now require an endless cycle of booster shots to boost their immune systems to a point where it does not fail but is inferior to that of the unvaccinated population.

Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome is a condition that leads to the loss of immune cells and leaves individuals susceptible to other infections and the development of certain types of cancers. In other words, it completely decimates the immune system.

Therefore, could we be seeing some new form of Covid-19 vaccine induced acquired immunodeficiency syndrome?

Only time will tell, but judging by the current figures it looks like we will only need to wait a matter of weeks to find out.

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[TailingsPond + 1,013]

Are you drinking your own urine yet Tom? 

It's on the internet - it must be true!

[El Gato + 254]

18 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Ivermectin has been administered to people against worms and other macroscopic parasites. The connection to Covid eludes me thus far.

Socialized medicine is not perfect, but better than anything US' got. Where absolutely everything somehow ends up having a few extra zeroes slapped to the sticker price, compared to anywhere else in the world.

Not that "medical insurance" is a misnomer. No actual insurance can hedge away a risk the probability of which is 1.0 (guaranteed to happen), as in we all do get sick and sicker, till we are completely dead.

Ivermectin is an anti-viral drug also, used heavily in third world countries against Malaria. That's where its effectiveness against covid comes in. That's what won it a Nobel for.  The DARPA paper release last week verified it also as effective against covid.

[TailingsPond + 1,013]

2 minutes ago, El Gato said:

Ivermectin is an anti-viral drug also, used heavily in third world countries against Malaria. That's where its effectiveness against covid comes in. That's what won it a Nobel for.  The DARPA paper release last week verified it also as effective against covid.

Malaria is not a virus.

[Andrei Moutchkine + 828]

2 minutes ago, El Gato said:

Ivermectin is an anti-viral drug also, used heavily in third world countries against Malaria. That's where its effectiveness against covid comes in. That's what won it a Nobel for.  The DARPA paper release last week verified it also as effective against covid.

Malaria is caused by a single-celled organism, not a virus. Antiviral effect does not follow. Would you happen to have a link to that DARPA paper?

[El Gato + 254]

10 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Malaria is caused by a single-celled organism, not a virus. Antiviral effect does not follow. Would you happen to have a link to that DARPA paper?

https://www.methylated.net/2022/01/11/u-s-marine-corp-major-joseph-murphys-report-to-inspector/

They use it to kill the mosquitos for its anti parasitical use, and also yellow fever and dengue fever for it's anti-viral use

Edited January 19, 2022 by El Gato

[Andrei Moutchkine + 828]

8 minutes ago, El Gato said:

https://www.methylated.net/2022/01/11/u-s-marine-corp-major-joseph-murphys-report-to-inspector/

What's the deal with that watermark. Does it have to be there?

Edited January 19, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine

[El Gato + 254]

9 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

What's the deal with that watermark. Does it have to be there? Also, JAG is not DARPA.

Read the FROM heading. He was working for DARPA. Yes, you have to put up with the watermark. They were the site that broke the story

Here's the original pdf.

https://assets.ctfassets.net/syq3snmxclc9/2mVob3c1aDd8CNvVnyei6n/95af7dbfd2958d4c2b8494048b4889b5/JAG_Docs_pt1_Og_WATERMARK_OVER_Redacted.pdf

Edited January 19, 2022 by El Gato

[Andrei Moutchkine + 828]

12 minutes ago, El Gato said:

Read the FROM heading. He was working for DARPA. Yes, you have to put up with the watermark. They were the site that broke the story

So, they were gonna secretly cure the Chinese bats made sick by Fauci's reseach? Kewl. The ivermectin bit refers to another document, from April 2020? This is potentially bigger than ivermectin though, giving a good explanation as to where Covid as such actually comes from.

[Andrei Moutchkine + 828]

23 minutes ago, El Gato said:

Read the FROM heading. He was working for DARPA. Yes, you have to put up with the watermark. They were the site that broke the story

There is indeed, a Trusted News Initiative

https://www.bbc.co.uk/beyondfakenews/trusted-news-initiative/

(massive government coverup people) Facebook, Twitter, Reuters and Washington Post are on it.

Edited January 19, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine

[El Gato + 254]

15 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

So, they were gonna secretly cure the Chinese bats made sick by Fauci's reseach? Kewl. The ivermectin bit refers to another document, from April 2020? This is potentially bigger than ivermectin though, giving a good explanation as to where Covid as such actually comes from.

That's the claim. I personally think the Chinese were laughing their arses off with the US financing the research, and were going to keep the weaponized virus for their collection to use at a later date, at the expense of the US, no less. How it was released is the one question, and two, when will the guilty be held accountable? Fauci, the NIH, Ecohealth alliance, and the Researchers at WUHAN should all be tried under the Nuremberg code

Edited January 19, 2022 by El Gato

[El Gato + 254]

2 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

There is indeed, a Trusted News Initiative

https://www.bbc.co.uk/beyondfakenews/trusted-news-initiative/

(massive government coverup people) Reuters and Washington Post are on it.

Really???!! There is no one to trust for reliable info on  any of those outfits. WAPO has had to issue so many corrections in the last 6 months, BBC is no better. Facebook and twitter are just plain anti first amendment companies period, and wouldn't let anybody speak any truth that doesn't go with their narrative. Trusted news initiative my hiney

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1 minute ago, El Gato said:

Really???!! There is no one to trust for reliable info on  any of those outfits. WAPO has had to issue so many corrections in the last 6 months, BBC is no better. Facebook and twitter are just plain anti first amendment companies period, and wouldn't let anybody speak any truth that doesn't go with their narrative. Trusted news initiative my hiney

Modern English is basically Newspeak. I stopped getting surprised after the Integrity Initiative, which had such a motley crew as British Foreign and Commonwealth Office, BBC, Reuters and Bellingcat actually conspire to frame the Russians some more.

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2 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Modern English is basically Newspeak. I stopped getting surprised after the Integrity Initiative, which had such a motley crew as British Foreign and Commonwealth Office, BBC, Reuters and Bellingcat actually conspire to frame the Russians some more.

How about just don't trust anything that isn't verified, and especially don't trust anything that comes out of a politicians (or bureaucrats) mouth, be it American, Russian Chinese or European. But the Russians still need to get over their inferiority complex, Yes the Western Europeans are a bunch of stuck up snobs, we are well aware of it. Russia shouldn't aspire to be like them.

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17 minutes ago, El Gato said:

How about just don't trust anything that isn't verified, and especially don't trust anything that comes out of a politicians (or bureaucrats) mouth, be it American, Russian Chinese or European. But the Russians still need to get over their inferiority complex, Yes the Western Europeans are a bunch of stuck up snobs, we are well aware of it. Russia shouldn't aspire to be like them.

I don't have an inferiority complex to the West., I am simply mad. Not sure I ever did have one. Used to be a common condition, but I am not sure how common it is anymore. At some point, enough is enough.

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What has gotten lost in the conversation is China unleashed this with the knowledge of what they were doing. 

3 or 5 years from now, we will find out the truth behind this biological attack China is behind. We will continue to have variants of this until China accomplishes its goal, whatever it was.

That said, 2022 will not be suitable for China; they have the 2008 housing on mega steroids! We already know about 7 Trillion in bad debt that does not include the off-book Trillions each Providence issued. Yes, they made this week's coupon payment to the Chinese Citizens, but the offshores are truly fucked.

The spreading is presently moving beyond the building coupons to more Chinese companies that supported the building.

The Chinese government had to make the on Shore payment, or as history has shown, the people will rise and overthrow the current CCP government. So the CCP is in a very precarious situation this year and next year.

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On 1/17/2022 at 7:07 AM, Hotone said:

You have no idea, do you.  The ex-prime minister of my country, Mahathir Muhammad, said it's alright to kill millions of Westerners (French), for historically killing Muslims dating back to the crusades.  The Muslim religion's justice system calls for paying back an eye for an eye. 

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/a-bigot-without-principles-ex-malaysian-pm-condemned-by-former-ambassador-to-france-20201030-p569xn.html

When 911 happened, our Muslims celebrated in the streets.  Our mamaks, a sub group of Muslims (to which Mahathir belongs) celebrated by distributing free bread.  And we are a moderate Muslim country.

Some of the Arab countries may have made peace with Israel, under pressure from the US.  However, many Muslims are seething with anger over this sellout.  Believe me, one day they will come after you, your children and your grandchildren, when you are weak and they are strong.  You will get your payback.

You just proved why NO ONE should ever believe a Muslim.  Muslims are taught to lie & murder the Kafir.

Why the only good moderate Muslim is a converted Muslim to any other religion or dead.