Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN January 17, 2022 (edited) The United States has participated in and/or planned many FALSE FLAG Events. White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki told reporters on Friday [Jan 14th, 2022]: “As part of its plans, Russia is laying the groundwork to have the option of fabricating a pretext for invasion,” “We have information that indicates Russia has already pre-positioned a group of operatives to conduct a false flag operation in eastern Ukraine.” “Without getting into too much detail, we do have information that indicates that Russia is already working actively to create a pretext for a potential invasion, for a move on Ukraine,” “In fact, we have information that they’ve pre-positioned a group of operatives, to conduct what we call a false flag operation, an operation designed to look like an attack on them or their people, or Russian speaking people in Ukraine, as an excuse to go in.” 2022: The Year Ahead https://www.minds.com/CorbettReport/blog/2022-the-year-ahead-1329620978296164354 by James Corbettcorbettreport.com January 15, 2021 I'm sure I don't need to tell you that there are many ways that the current global crisis could play out in 2022 and, sadly, none of them involve everyone joining hands and singing "Kumbaya" until the Gateses and the Schwabs of the world have a change of heart about this whole Great Reset thing. If you saw New World Next Year 2022, you'll know that I think a cyber 9/11 (and the ensuing passage of an iPatriot Act) is a distinct possibility for the coming year. But that is not the only ace card in the would-be world controllers' hands. A "pandemic of the injected" and/or a 5G-generated global health crisis? The passage of a global pandemic treaty to hardwire the biosecurity state into place? A bioterror false flag? Check. Check. Check. All of these cards, too, are in the deck and ready to be dealt. But there is another card in that deck that has been largely neglected for the past two years, and I have a feeling we're going to see it laid on the table this year. So what am I talking about? Luckily, I don't need to look further than the latest headlines to illustrate my point: Right on the heels of the Kazakhstan fiasco, we have this headline dominating the newswires: "White House: Russia prepping pretext for Ukraine invasion." As the loyal government stenographers over at the Associated Press helpfully explain: US intelligence officials have determined a Russian effort is underway to create a pretext for its troops to further invade Ukraine, and Moscow has already prepositioned operatives to conduct “a false-flag operation” in eastern Ukraine, according to the White House. Wait, what? The White House is now openly warning about the potential for a false flag operation to be used as a pretext for war? What's happening here? The invocation of the concept of false flag terror in a mainstream media report (let alone such an assertion coming from the lips of "intelligence officials") might raise an eyebrow among us old hands of the 9/11 Truth movement. I'm sure we all remember the days when the very concept of false flag terror had to be painstakingly explained to the average normie . . . so it could then be summarily dismissed as a "conspiracy theory." But upon closer examination, this acknowledgment of the reality that false flag attacks can be used as a casus belli is not so surprising. In fact, the most vocal conspiracy deniers are only too happy to become conspiracy theorists themselves when discussing their political enemies (like Putin or Assad or Putin or Xi or "anti-vaxxers" or Putin). In this case, the theory posits that Putin and the Russkies have engaged in a social media campaign to plant a narrative that the Ukrainian government is preparing to target Russian-backed forces in eastern Ukraine. The plan would then unfold when Russian "operatives trained in urban warfare" (who, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki assures us, have already been deployed) "use explosives to carry out acts of sabotage against Russia’s own proxy forces." Putin could then use the attacks as a pretext to invade Ukraine. That's one hell of a conspiracy theory, isn't it? So what evidence is there to back it up? As you might have guessed, absolutely no evidence of any kind was presented during the briefing announcing this startling accusation. Don't take my word for it. Read Psaki's remarks for yourself and you'll see that the entire story rests on her bald assertion that "we have information" that Russia is preparing to do this. Or, translated from the Globalese: "Take our word for it." But wait, it gets worse! Just weeks ago The New York Times was reporting that the US and Britain are helping the Ukrainian government to secure their cyber infrastructure against dastardly Russian hackers, and just days ago the Ukrainian ambassador to the US told CBS News that Ukraine was expecting cyberattacks to precede a full invasion. And now—wouldn't you know it?—just as the EU is prepping large-scale exercises simulating Russian cyberattacks on Europe's supply lines, someone has gone ahead and launched a cyberattack on the Ukrainian government! So who is that "someone"? Oh, come on, there's no time to collect evidence! We all know who it is! After all, cyberattacks against their enemies are a "tried and true part of the Russian playbook" according to good ol' Victoria "F**k the EU" Nuland (aka Mrs. Robert Kagan), and who wouldn't trust her? Is it possible that things are playing out exactly as Psaki and Nuland assert? Could this really be a carefully staged Russian operation to prepare the way for an invasion of Ukraine? Of course it is possible. Let's not be naïve here. Putin is an authoritarian who is putting Russia in lockstep with the Great Reset, and he is willing to stage terror attacks and assassinate his enemies in order to further his own political ambitions. The same can be said for Xi and Assad and all of the other authoritarians who are held up in certain parts of the "alternative" media as the "resistance" to the NATO agenda. As I've articulated many times, the BRICS are a phony opposition, the "alternative" financial infrastructure that the anti-NATO crowd is setting up is not alternative at all, the economic and military rise of the Chinese has been deliberately engineered by the same financial interests that built up the American empire, the technocrats openly lust after the authoritarian powers of communist China and the Belt and Road promise is just debt diplomacy by another name. But here's something that seems to confuse even those who are clued in to the 3D reality behind the 2D chess game: geopolitical and even military conflict can still take place, even in a scenario where both enemies are just puppets of the same string-puller. As I've laid out before, there is a very real sense in which we are already embroiled in World War III, and that is the War on You. The Powers That Shouldn't Be are, as we know by now, willing and capable of doing anything it takes to maintain their power and increase the centralization of that power in the technocratic hands of the oligarchy. If that means an economic crash, don't doubt for a moment that they'll do it. If that means bringing down the world wide web (in order to replace it with a more controlled system), they'll do that, too. And thermonuclear war? If it helps their agenda, it's on the table. This is the element of the global calculation that has been excluded from the equation the past two years and is likely to come back with a vengeance this year: geopolitical strife. Remember in 2019 when dueling drills and a world on fire with protest were portents of some major changes that were due to take place on the global chessboard? Well, those tectonic forces didn't go away during the scamdemic; they were merely pushed under the surface for a while. But, like a beach ball pushed under water and then let go of, they're surfacing once again. Think of what we've seen just in the past month. There's the latest round of war talk over Ukraine. There's the unprecedented deployment of CSTO forces to Kazakhstan. There's the new hypersonic missile arms race, with China gloating about their latest version of the "wonder weapon" and North Korea testing their own batch and the US' own AGM-183A failing its third test . . . which is just an excuse for the Navy to increase its weapons development and procurement budget, of course. Australia and Japan are signing security pacts as tensions grow between US and China in East Asia. Meanwhile, geopolitical experts are warning US policy planners against waging a two-front cold war (just pick an enemy and stick with it, please!). Oh, and does anybody remember Afghanistan? Or Iraq? Or Syria? It seems there's still stuff happening in those places, too. Yes, today's world is a tinderbox searching for a spark, and the scamdemic with its convenient narratives of "the Chinese virus" and "our forces are ravaged by COVID!" (or is that "our forces are ravaged by COVID mandates"?) is just more fuel for the fire. Both "teams" on the global chessboard are stage-managed by the same group of 3D chess players, of course, but that doesn't mean that real wars won't break out between "Team NATO" and "Team CSTO" (or whomever). The WWI Conspiracy led to WWI, after all, so what do you think the WWIII Conspiracy will lead to? I hope we don't find out this year, but I have a feeling we're going to be hearing more about geopolitics in 2022 than we have in a long time. https://www.corbettreport.com/ FALSE FLAGS... https://community.oilprice.com/topic/25197-declassified-15-pages-–-top-us-officials-wanted-to-blow-up-and-kill-americans-in-false-flag-event-–-operation-northwoods-–-easy-read/ Edited January 17, 2022 by Tom Nolan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meredith Poor + 894 MP January 17, 2022 Thanks for bringing us up to date on the conspiracy market. New conspiracies fabricated and published daily. 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN January 18, 2022 18 hours ago, Meredith Poor said: Thanks for bringing us up to date on the conspiracy market. New conspiracies fabricated and published daily. Meredith, You have an inability to thoroughly research. This is why your awareness is hampered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meredith Poor + 894 MP January 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Tom Nolan said: Meredith, You have an inability to thoroughly research. This is why your awareness is hampered. What happens if the steam pipes break in your apartment block in the middle of a blizzard? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN January 18, 2022 https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-false-flag-ukraine-story-emerged-after-cia-director-secretly-visited-kiev Russian 'False Flag' In Ukraine Story Emerged After CIA Director Secretly Visited Kiev by Tyler Durden Tuesday, Jan 18, 2022 - 03:23 PM On Monday it came to light that last week's whole false flag story which involved the US alleging that Russia is planning some kind of deceptive attack on its own forces or proxies in order to justify an incursion into Ukraine was fed straight to the CIA from Kiev intelligence officials. CNN has now disclosed that the sensational charge against Moscow that it's prepping "potential sabotage operations against their own forces" - as Bloomberg described it last Friday - was likely made known to CIA Director William Burns during a secretive January 12 visit to Kiev where he met with President Volodymyr Zelensky and top officials. As we described days ago, the allegation was dubious from the start as it was based on the usual "anonymous" and "unnamed" US intelligence officials. During Burns' now officially acknowledged trip, he and Ukraine's intelligence leaders discussed "current assessments of risk to Ukraine" - and according to CNN's Natasha Bertrand, and then US officials "disclosed the alleged Russian false flag plot soon after." Meanwhile, on Monday Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov again blasted the US claims (and we might add, what appear to be the evidence-free allegations spun in Kiev), telling the US it's peddling "total disinformation" with the false flag narrative. Further, Lavrov reiterated "that Russia expects a written response this week from the U.S. and its allies to Moscow’s request for binding guarantees that NATO will not embrace Ukraine or any other ex-Soviet nations, or station its forces and weapons there," the AP writes. Reviewing the slew of reports and claims that have come out in just the last days, journalist Dave DeCamp writes: The claim that Russia is planning a false flag against the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region first surfaced in a CNN report. What started as a flimsy claim from an anonymous US official quickly spread through most major US media outlets and then was parroted by the White House and Pentagon. The US has provided no evidence to back up the false flag assertion. The extraordinary claim overshadowed a report from Yahoo News that revealed the CIA has been training Ukrainian paramilitaries since 2015. One former CIA official said the training program taught the Ukrainians how to "kill Russians." Again, on top of all of the above - as if this weren't enough to convince any objective outside observer that an intense propaganda campaign is being waged over the Ukraine crisis - we now know the most "bombshell" recent accusations against Russia and Putin appear sourced to the Ukrainians themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Gato + 254 Bs January 19, 2022 How much do you you want to bet the US gets into the False flag operations to induce US involvement? Biden has deep ties in Ukraine(And his Son Hunter) in government and business ties. And all wars the US got involved in the 20th century, a Democrat President was at the helm. Biden has too many domestic problems right now. A war would distract from them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 January 19, 2022 There will be no war in Ukraine. Russia has simply imposed severe energy sanctions on Ukraine. No gas, no coal, no electricity in mid-January. Dear colleagues, not false flags, but a different American tradition - sanctions on Cuba, Iran, Venezuela. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Gato + 254 Bs January 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tomasz said: There will be no war in Ukraine. Russia has simply imposed severe energy sanctions on Ukraine. No gas, no coal, no electricity in mid-January. Dear colleagues, not false flags, but a different American tradition - sanctions on Cuba, Iran, Venezuela. That will just piss someone off worse if you cut off the energy, guaranteeing a conflict. Especially if W Europeans are involved Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 January 19, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, El Gato said: How much do you you want to bet the US gets into the False flag operations to induce US involvement? Biden has deep ties in Ukraine(And his Son Hunter) in government and business ties. And all wars the US got involved in the 20th century, a Democrat President was at the helm. Biden has too many domestic problems right now. A war would distract from them Not this time. Biden Jr. has severed all the ties with Ukraine and is in damage control mode. Biden Sr. would sure love to keep Ukraine the fuck away from him. Locally, the damage is already done though. The Prosecutor General's office is the foundational component of Soviet, and hence Ukrainian (and Russian) Deep State. Biden broke it, when he had the guy fired for investigating Jr. Somebody else at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemont_Seneca_Partners already took the dive for the team. (somehow, it is securities fraud) The guy with the scoop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrii_Derkach is on US sanctioned entities list for now. Till the next Republican administration, I expect? Him having KGB connections is a very Captain Obvious thing, on the account of him having a law degree from their works college and the supposed connections to dead mafia bosses aren't true, even if they were of any relevance at all. The point is that Burisma was pocketing some of EU's development funds (to promote Ukraine's energy independence by means of fracking gas in Donbas) together with Ukraine's own government funds. That's not too far away to USAID and other US government money, which would be catastrophic. Edited January 19, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 January 19, 2022 19 minutes ago, El Gato said: That will just piss someone off worse if you cut off the energy, guaranteeing a conflict. Especially if W Europeans are involved What are they gonna do, jump Russia? Western Europeans have options, at some additional cost. Ukraine does not. They cannot afford to actually get all their energy at world market prices for very long. Having said that, I am not really sure Ukraine really is cut off from all Russian supplies for good. It is a very blunt weapon. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 January 19, 2022 (edited) Find it curious that even though chances of Russia invading Ukraine are really higher for once, the level of noise around it from Russian Atlanticists & Ukrainian activist types is very low, seems like after 7 years of constant hysteria they're now in shock and disbelief. There were so many of these invasion claims over the past 7 years that people simply won't fall for it easily anymore unless invasion actually happens. There were at least 2 to 3 invasion scares in 2020 alone. When hard power really comes into play, turns out Twitter chatter doesn’t really matter. Or its made to lower the coverage on Russia's ultimatum when and if Russia strikes it will be presented as a pure, unprovoked aggression without any recourse or exit door If this hypothesis is correct then this admittedly weird radio silence would confirm the intervention is a given Edited January 19, 2022 by Tomasz 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 January 19, 2022 (edited) Whats the difference between Ukraine and Taiwan? Ukraine etnonationalists will be glorious when they realize Westerners don't care that much about them. What Ukrainians don't realize is Taiwan has 5x their GDP & has strategic industries. Soft power/PR: Audrey Tang & bubble tea is much cooler & more sympathetic than Azov. No White Man's burden as with Middle East interventions. Don't have the verbal IQ to mimic Jewish Lobby in USA. Ukraine total fertility rate is about 1.3. Tells the story already. 41% of Ukrainians agree with Putin they are with Russians are one people (even 22% in the western Ukraine). Similar culture. Modern surveillance. Disgruntled have option of moving to Poland. It's just unrealistic on many levels. West don't really super care about Taiwan either but much more so than Ukraine. Let say 1% chance of NATO involvement with Ukraine. Maybe 25% chance (?) of the US fighting China over Taiwan. Moreover defending Taiwan means fighting naval and air war, where West has numerical and technological superiority. Defending Ukraine means fighting land war in the flat planes on Ukraine (steppe) against army, that made anti-air defenses it's top priority in recent memory even in USSR times. Quote “German gov sources” tell @handelsblatt “Western govs no longer considering cutting Russian banks off from SWIFT” if further invades Why take SWIFT deterrent off table? Especially after signals #NordStream2 shouldn’t be “mixed up” in response? Edited January 19, 2022 by Tomasz 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Neopalimy + 14 January 19, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tomasz said: Whats the difference between Ukraine and Taiwan? Ukraine etnonationalists will be glorious when they realize Westerners don't care that much about them. What Ukrainians don't realize is Taiwan has 5x their GDP & has strategic industries. Soft power/PR: Audrey Tang & bubble tea is much cooler & more sympathetic than Azov. No White Man's burden as with Middle East interventions. Don't have the verbal IQ to mimic Jewish Lobby in USA. Ukraine total fertility rate is about 1.3. Tells the story already. 41% of Ukrainians agree with Putin they are with Russians are one people (even 22% in the western Ukraine). Similar culture. Modern surveillance. Disgruntled have option of moving to Poland. It's just unrealistic on many levels. West don't really super care about Taiwan either but much more so than Ukraine. Let say 1% chance of NATO involvement with Ukraine. Maybe 25% chance (?) of the US fighting China over Taiwan. Moreover defending Taiwan means fighting naval and air war, where West has numerical and technological superiority. Defending Ukraine means fighting land war in the flat planes on Ukraine (steppe) against army, that made anti-air defenses it's top priority in recent memory even in USSR times. The probability of a war over Taiwan is also approaching zero, as all the analytical reports and computer models of this military conflict make the unequivocal conclusion that the US will lose quickly and ingloriously, suffering huge losses in the process. 1. The IRBM, including the equipment of nuclear warheads (nuclear warheads) from China and the DPRK, is more than enough for all US Navy / NATO AUGs - they (PRBM PRC) cover the entire Asia-Pacific theater of operations (theatre). And combat AUVs with submarines of the PRC / DPRK in the water are no less than jellyfish. 2. China is not alone there, but with a "friend"-ally-partner Russia. Which, probably, will not go into open confrontation, but will support China with strategic, operational-strategic and tactical intelligence data (space, air, sea and ground) and will use its electronic warfare equipment (including electronic warfare equipment - electronic defeat) . In addition to this, Russia will certainly provide military-technical, material, political and other assistance to China. And this means a guaranteed defeat for the United States, even if they decide on massive nuclear strikes. 3. In the "threatened period", when the US will start preparing for the strike, the Chinese-Korean hackers will turn off the Internet for the US with electricity - blackout + blackout of the Internet will turn thinking into a rational direction. 4. If the United States does not come to its senses, then immediately before the hostilities, communications and control of the Armed Forces (including the Pentagon, Congress and the White House) will be turned off. 5. But if this does not work and the US decides to use up all its nuclear potential by inflicting a massive nuclear missile strike on China (by the PRC), then the world will be presented to Russia. I will not write here about the financial collapse and complete fiasco of the US on the economic front after the severing of trade ties with China. It is clear to all reasonable people that any US war today is a bluff. War is possible in the period 2025-2030, when the United States will have nothing left to maintain its hegemonic status except to decide on suicide.s. PS Taiwan created communist China by exiling Pol Pot there. The Ukrainian SSR was created by the Bolsheviks of the RSFSR, on the ruins of the Russian Empire. After the outskirts voluntarily seceded from the Union, the Americans installed neo-fascist reactions there in order to “keep” Russia. Having planted the Nazi ideology of the Third Reich and made the Nazi war criminals of the Wehrmacht - the sadists Bendera and Shukhevych - an icon of the "Republic of Ukraine". Edited January 19, 2022 by Andrew Neopalimy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Neopalimy + 14 January 19, 2022 15 hours ago, Meredith Poor said: Что произойдет, если в вашем многоквартирном доме во время метели прорвутся паровые трубы? And if, "Korean-Iranian hackers" in addition, turn off the electricity, including the Internet - US blackout? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meredith Poor + 894 MP January 19, 2022 13 hours ago, Tomasz said: Ukraine total fertility rate is about 1.3. Tells the story already. Russian Fertility Rate, at 1.5, certainly isn't 'near replacement'. End of WW I, czarist regime falls to the Bolsheviks. End of WW II, Soviet Union overruns Eastern Europe, using much of the materiel the US provides in aid to fight Germany. End of Communist occupation of Afghanistan, Soviet Union collapses. 'Great Game' between Britain and Russia leads to battles in Crimea - 'Charge of the Light Brigade'. History repeats itself. What happens to Russia this time, if military adventures go bad and the rest of the world is fed up with Russia? The only thing 'sphere of influence' really means is that Putin wants sycophants installed in 'buffer states' surrounding Russia. These people don't serve Russian interests, they serve Putin's interests. They certainly don't serve the interests of the citizens of their respective states, as has just been demonstrated in Kazakhstan. Henry Kissinger once remarked in the 1970's that 'Russia is the only country in the world surrounded by hostile communist states'. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Meredith Poor said: Russian Fertility Rate, at 1.5, certainly isn't 'near replacement'. End of WW I, czarist regime falls to the Bolsheviks. End of WW II, Soviet Union overruns Eastern Europe, using much of the materiel the US provides in aid to fight Germany. End of Communist occupation of Afghanistan, Soviet Union collapses. 'Great Game' between Britain and Russia leads to battles in Crimea - 'Charge of the Light Brigade'. History repeats itself. What happens to Russia this time, if military adventures go bad and the rest of the world is fed up with Russia? The only thing 'sphere of influence' really means is that Putin wants sycophants installed in 'buffer states' surrounding Russia. These people don't serve Russian interests, they serve Putin's interests. They certainly don't serve the interests of the citizens of their respective states, as has just been demonstrated in Kazakhstan. Henry Kissinger once remarked in the 1970's that 'Russia is the only country in the world surrounded by hostile communist states'. Neither is anything out of ordinary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate Poland is 1.42 Of course, you prefer to keep your own sycophants in place? Uncle Sam never stopped believing into having spheres of influence. History indeed repeats itself. One word - Afghanistan, is enough. Russian military adventures are largely imaginary. Unlike yours. What happens when rest of the world is fed up with you? You obviously know nothing about Kazakhstan. What exactly is in the interest of their citizens? How about throwing out the Western multinationals who own the most of their mineral extraction? This is how they are poorer than Russians, while selling more oil and gas in per capita terms. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piotr Berman + 82 January 19, 2022 Russian 'False Flag' In Ukraine Story Emerged After CIA Director Secretly Visited Kiev On the advise of the Commerce Department, American diplomats and spooks try to buy bridges in all places in the world, aiming to alleviate steel shortage. This particular bridge is still not converted into scrap as yet, nobody checked the metal content, but it was almost free. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN January 19, 2022 55 minutes ago, Piotr Berman said: Russian 'False Flag' In Ukraine Story Emerged After CIA Director Secretly Visited Kiev On the advise of the Commerce Department, American diplomats and spooks try to buy bridges in all places in the world, aiming to alleviate steel shortage. This particular bridge is still not converted into scrap as yet, nobody checked the metal content, but it was almost free. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-false-flag-ukraine-story-emerged-after-cia-director-secretly-visited-kiev Russian 'False Flag' In Ukraine Story Emerged After CIA Director Secretly Visited Kiev by Tyler Durden Tuesday, Jan 18, 2022 - 03:23 PM On Monday it came to light that last week's whole false flag story which involved the US alleging that Russia is planning some kind of deceptive attack on its own forces or proxies in order to justify an incursion into Ukraine was fed straight to the CIA from Kiev intelligence officials. CNN has now disclosed that the sensational charge against Moscow that it's prepping "potential sabotage operations against their own forces" - as Bloomberg described it last Friday - was likely made known to CIA Director William Burns during a secretive January 12 visit to Kiev where he met with President Volodymyr Zelensky and top officials. As we described days ago, the allegation was dubious from the start as it was based on the usual "anonymous" and "unnamed" US intelligence officials. During Burns' now officially acknowledged trip, he and Ukraine's intelligence leaders discussed "current assessments of risk to Ukraine" - and according to CNN's Natasha Bertrand, and then US officials "disclosed the alleged Russian false flag plot soon after." Meanwhile, on Monday Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov again blasted the US claims (and we might add, what appear to be the evidence-free allegations spun in Kiev), telling the US it's peddling "total disinformation" with the false flag narrative. Further, Lavrov reiterated "that Russia expects a written response this week from the U.S. and its allies to Moscow’s request for binding guarantees that NATO will not embrace Ukraine or any other ex-Soviet nations, or station its forces and weapons there," the AP writes. Reviewing the slew of reports and claims that have come out in just the last days, journalist Dave DeCamp writes: The claim that Russia is planning a false flag against the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region first surfaced in a CNN report. What started as a flimsy claim from an anonymous US official quickly spread through most major US media outlets and then was parroted by the White House and Pentagon. The US has provided no evidence to back up the false flag assertion. The extraordinary claim overshadowed a report from Yahoo News that revealed the CIA has been training Ukrainian paramilitaries since 2015. One former CIA official said the training program taught the Ukrainians how to "kill Russians." Translation: Kiev fed it to CIA, who fed it to Fusion Natasha, who fed it to CNN, who fed it to the American public. At no point was it ever true. Again, on top of all of the above - as if this weren't enough to convince any objective outside observer that an intense propaganda campaign is being waged over the Ukraine crisis - we now know the most "bombshell" recent accusations against Russia and Putin appear sourced to the Ukrainians themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN January 19, 2022 On 1/17/2022 at 12:11 PM, Tom Nolan said: The United States has participated in and/or planned many FALSE FLAG Events. https://community.oilprice.com/topic/25197-declassified-15-pages-–-top-us-officials-wanted-to-blow-up-and-kill-americans-in-false-flag-event-–-operation-northwoods-–-easy-read/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 January 19, 2022 Out of curiosity, someone listened to what Joe Biden had to say today about the crisis in Ukraine? It seems that Putin achieved so much that he clearly showed the Ukrainians that they could not count on anyone and that they were left alone in a crisis situation. That is why the war will not be his goal - it was simply to make the Ukrainian authorities aware of their real geopolitical situation. Biden tried to begin his Ukrainian offensive diplomatic initiative at the beginning of the year, and Putin ends it today. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 January 19, 2022 Biden appears to be doing to Ukraine what US has long done to allies/potential allies (Saddam pre-Gulf War; Kurds/Shia post-Gulf war; Georgia in 2008): encourage conflict only to sell them out. The best strategy for Putin now is not to invade. Western media, politicians, and think tanks invested so much into the "imminent invasion" theory by now - they'll look like total idiots. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 January 19, 2022 (edited) But if we read carefully I see 2 statements about Ukraine. I think this a road to final resolve of 8 year crisis. 2 hot Biden commentaries about Ukraine. IMHO thats want Putin wants - NO INVASION Biden ruled out Ukraine's accession to NATO in the near future Quote Ukraine is unlikely to join NATO anytime soon, said US President Joe Biden. According to him, for this to happen, a number of conditions must be met. “Ukraine's accession to NATO in the near future is unlikely, ” Mr. Biden said , speaking at a press conference at the White House. As the American president explained, in order to join the North Atlantic Alliance, Ukraine will have to do a lot of work in the field of democracy and "a number of other things that are happening there." In addition, he recalled that the country's accession to NATO requires the support of all members of the alliance. Biden allowed an agreement with Russia on the non-deployment of weapons in Ukraine Quote US President Joe Biden said that he admits the possibility of reaching any agreements with Russia on the issue of non-deployment of strategic weapons in Ukraine. “He (President of Russia Vladimir Putin . - Kommersant ) told me that he wants two things, guarantees. One is that Ukraine will never join NATO. The second is that strategic weapons will not be deployed in Ukraine. We can come to something on the second element, ” Joe Biden said at a press conference at the White House. He explained that with such a decision, the United States will also expect appropriate reciprocal steps from the Russian side. Recall that in December the Russian Foreign Ministry published draft agreements between the country and NATO and the United States on security guarantees. The document says that the United States should not establish military bases on the territory of the countries of the former Soviet Union that are not members of NATO, and the alliance should stop expanding to the east. Edited January 19, 2022 by Tomasz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meredith Poor + 894 MP January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: You obviously know nothing about Kazakhstan. What exactly is in the interest of their citizens? How about throwing out the Western multinationals who own the most of their mineral extraction? This is how they are poorer than Russians, while selling more oil and gas in per capita terms. Someone let the multinationals into Kazakhstan. That 'someone' was a Kazakhstan government official. It's unlikely that the western multinationals 'own' the mineral rights, they simply earn income from what they produce. Ownership usually remains with the state. There is obviously wealth spent by the Kazakh government on the Kazakh capital and Kazakh government workers. Western oil interests would use that money elsewhere if they controlled it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meredith Poor + 894 MP January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Tom Nolan said: Kiev fed it to CIA, who fed it to Fusion Natasha, who fed it to CNN, who fed it to the American public. At no point was it ever true. The more likely source of 'false flag' alerts would have come from intelligence intercepts made from Russian radio traffic and satellite observations. Russian agents have done such things before, particularly in relation to military activities in Chechnya. If anything, US intelligence would have alerted Ukrainian officials to observed evidence. Whether it's 'true' or not depends on whether anything happens. In certain cases traffic is put on secured channels 'to be seen' by foreign services. Russia wants certain pullbacks from the West. The Ukraine is a mushroom in this firefight, it is an innocent bystander. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites