Stormysaga + 62 AB June 15, 2018 President Trump is enacting a 25 percent tariff on $50 billion of Chinese goods "that contain industrially significant technologies," after months of exchanging threats amid concerns over a potential trade war. The penalty is designed to punish China for stealing American technology and trade secrets. It will apply to roughly 1,100 exports and will target the Chinese aerospace, robotics, manufacturing and auto industries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HermitMunster + 146 June 15, 2018 I don't know if this is an act of desperation by this administration or if they really believe this is going to make a difference. We either need China or we don't. I don't see anyone acquiescing. In the short-term, I would venture to guess that this is not going to be good for America. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sofia + 35 SP June 15, 2018 How will these tariffs affect the US currency? I'm far from being economist but will it make the US dollar weaker? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackTortoise + 103 CM June 15, 2018 Trade deficit is a direct transfer of wealth from one country to another. We have already have a trade deficit with China for so long now that they are flush with money and own a lot of American debt. American consumers are getting burned with higher prices. Manufacturers are getting hit with higher raw materials. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad Kovalenko + 115 VK June 15, 2018 Are Ivanka's shoes included in this list of products? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAOIL + 33 OS June 15, 2018 Big surprise fo MAGA supporters who shop at Wal-Mart. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Varga + 123 AV June 15, 2018 This isn't a smart political move. What they expect to achieve with this tariffs? If they wanted to stop intellectual property theft, they could just stop their deal with ZTE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theremnant + 1 MB June 15, 2018 Read The Absent Superpower. Almost everything that is happening was predicted by the author, Peter Zeihan. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ja’Nako Bezze + 36 JB June 15, 2018 Multilateral sanctions placed on the United States through WTO thereby ensuring the next Great Recession by the end of the year. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna + 68 JT June 15, 2018 We will be soon taking our ball, going home and sulking alone in the corner wondering why no one wants to play 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
李伟王芳 + 77 ZL June 15, 2018 Just now, Joanna said: We will be soon taking our ball, going home and sulking alone in the corner wondering why no one wants to play and mom and dad arguing over the higher prices 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nigerian Price + 22 SK June 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ja’Nako Bezze said: Multilateral sanctions placed on the United States through WTO thereby ensuring the next Great Recession by the end of the year. Trump is taking a preschool approach to solving a complex problem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dennis Coyne + 82 DC June 15, 2018 All part of the make America stupid policy. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HermitMunster + 146 June 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Sofia said: How will these tariffs affect the US currency? I'm far from being economist but will it make the US dollar weaker? When/if the dollar is no longer the currency countries use in energy trade, that is when the U.S. will be in trouble. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Lavis + 55 June 16, 2018 It's now my policy to wait at least 2 weeks before devoting any brainpower to these reports... In case he... Was only trolling Was only using 'brinksmanship' Changes his mind Denies ever saying it 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guillaume Albasini + 851 June 17, 2018 (edited) Escalating trade war with bad news for US oil exports to China... Hours after the U.S. announcement -- China’s Finance Ministry issued a list of 545 product categories, also covering about $34 billion in exports from the U.S., to be subject to an additional 25 percent tariff starting July 6. They included a variety of agricultural products, including soybeans, corn and wheat along with beef, pork and poultry, plus automobiles. A second set of tariffs to begin at a later date covered other goods including coal, crude oil, gasoline and medical equipment. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-16/next-move-is-trump-s-after-china-hits-back-in-trade-war-opener China currently imports about 363,000 barrels of U.S. crude daily, on par with Canada as the biggest U.S. crude importer, according to U.S. Energy Department figures. It also takes in an additional 200,000 barrels a day (bpd) of other products like propane. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-china-oil/china-surprises-with-threat-on-u-s-energy-exports-idUSKBN1JB301 US sanctions on Iran were supposed to reduce chinese imports of iranian oil and increase imports of US oil. Now with chinese tariffs on US oil, the opposite could happen. Edited June 17, 2018 by Guillaume Albasini 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Margo + 5 June 18, 2018 Our government throws out taunts at our trading partners apparently without researching the overall reaction or considering the retaliating measures that could be taken by those involved. Trade is a very complicated plus extremely widespread spread over a vast variety of industries/products. Surely cooler & brilliant minds can exercise this policy in a better style. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG June 18, 2018 (edited) On 6/15/2018 at 2:38 PM, HermitMunster said: When/if the dollar is no longer the currency countries use in energy trade, that is when the U.S. will be in trouble. Countries already use lots of different currencies in settling oil trades. I suspect you are confusing this with the currency the pricing is being set at. That, traditionally in dollars, is entirely arbitrary. If Kenya buys oil products from South Africa, there is no requirement that the trade be concluded in US Dollars. It would more likely be done in South African Rand. Edited June 18, 2018 by Jan van Eck 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormysaga + 62 AB June 19, 2018 Now Trump is creating a plan for tariffs on $200 billion in Chinese products after China hit back with tariffs on $50 billion of American products, including agricultural goods. Trade conflicts with Canada, Japan, Mexico, China and the EU all at the same time. That should work out well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Lavis + 55 June 19, 2018 (edited) As with all petty geo/economic/political games played by the powerful, little will change on the ground in each country. My prediction? - Wealthy people will pay more without really noticing the tariffs. - Poor people will continue to struggle to survive without really noticing the tariffs. Edited June 19, 2018 by Jason Lavis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HermitMunster + 146 June 19, 2018 20 hours ago, Jan van Eck said: Countries already use lots of different currencies in settling oil trades. I suspect you are confusing this with the currency the pricing is being set at. That, traditionally in dollars, is entirely arbitrary. If Kenya buys oil products from South Africa, there is no requirement that the trade be concluded in US Dollars. It would more likely be done in South African Rand. Is the U.S. dollar not the world currency? It is the defacto global currency. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites