notsonice + 1,211 DM February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Do you extend blessings to peace protesters when USA bombs it? I barely remember any. Everybody is so happy for people being blown into chunks on a made up pretext (as you have no real reasons to go to war) Remember this This is when USA lost a good friend and acquired an enemy in me. I pray for you. May you encounter something similar to what you bring to the rest of the world close to your own home soon enough. This is what is happening to Ukrainians now. They have been dehumanizing and genociding their own people, aided by slick Western propaganda tools and suddenly are getting a dose of their own medicine. Being Russian and speaking Russian language is a right which one should not be fighting over. Anyhow, start thinking of USA as of bigger Ukraine already, to get into the mood? No technology and no amount of GDP makes you safe against the righteous wrath of the rest of the world. Which will inevitably gang up on you, the abomination on the face of the world. wow you really are babbling now......another one of your pathetic dis information campaigns... How many dead Russians so far??? Putin blocked Twitter so you and your Russian pals do not even see what is happening . Freedom in Russia does not exist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/26/russias-anti-war-lobby-goes-online-a76616 Russia's Anti-War Lobby Goes Online Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, ronwagn said: Russia's secret army that was used in the first Ukraine war by the Russian Bear. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group Andrei knows nothing about this of course. Nor does he know about the Chechens going to Ukraine to help Putin out. 🤣 Excuse me? It is a PMC, of which you have a ton yourself. Blackwater/Academi, for the best example. It was used in the Donbass war to an extent that most of their staff are actually from there. This is where the organization was born. The connection to "Putin's cook" Prigozhin does not verify, though (not sure if you are interested, but seems the usual propaganda bullshit) Yes, I do know about the Chechens. What about them? There used to be a lot of Chechens fighting against Russia (and tactically, for Ukraine) but they lost to Ramzan's Chechens. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,211 DM February 26, 2022 Just now, Andrei Moutchkine said: Excuse me? It is a PMC, of which you have a ton yourself. Blackwater/Academi, for the best example. It was used in the Donbass war to an extent that most of their staff are actually from there. This is where the organization was born. The connection to "Putin's cook" Prigozhin does not verify, though (not sure if you are interested, but seems the usual propaganda bullshit) Yes, I do know about the Chechens. What about them? There used to be a lot of Chechens fighting against Russia (and tactically, for Ukraine) but they lost to Ramzan's Chechens. Holiday for a Russian In the Ukraine. Notice the chicken roaster in the background Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, ronwagn said: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/26/russias-anti-war-lobby-goes-online-a76616 Russia's Anti-War Lobby Goes Online You may view this as Russians being better people than Americans. Don't remember you having much of an antiwar movement since Vietnam? I tend to agree with Margo though. Where were all those antiwar protesters for the last 8 years? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 1 minute ago, notsonice said: Holiday for a Russian In the Ukraine. Notice the chicken roaster in the background There are losses. Thanks for arming terrorists, we'll remember that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: I've seen plenty, thank you, this was to be expected. Ukrainians are us, and thus can fight like us. Making great progress anyway, though. Soon to be deprogrammed and getting a clue. You can't fight like the armed Ukrainians can. You are afraid to use your own tanks because they will be destroyed. Your troops do not want to fight peaceful Ukrainians. They do not want to destroy their cities like the Germans did to Russians. The Generals need to put Putin into nice house in Siberia that is well guarded, or maybe an Island like Napoleon. Then they should tax the oligarchs once their money is released and distribute their money that was stolen from the Russian people who were paid poor wages. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, notsonice said: wow you really are babbling now......another one of your pathetic dis information campaigns... How many dead Russians so far??? Putin blocked Twitter so you and your Russian pals do not even see what is happening . Freedom in Russia does not exist. "Putin" did not block Twitter. Roskomnazdor is currently slowing down FaceBook, for biased censorship. The best platform and the only one that is pretty much censorship-free is the Russia's own Telegram, anyway. The Russian government failed to shut it down before, and you are gonna look stupid if you try now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: There are losses. Thanks for arming terrorists, we'll remember that. Keep sending in the tanks to be destroyed. Russia will not be able to afford more of them. Tanks are now old technology and outmoded against handheld missiles. More anti-aircraft missiles thousands more handheld missiles. I hope Russia withdraws its troops soon, avoiding death. They need to go home and take care of Putin and his faux congress. Establish a real republic. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 1 minute ago, ronwagn said: You can't fight like the armed Ukrainians can. You are afraid to use your own tanks because they will be destroyed. Your troops do not want to fight peaceful Ukrainians. They do not want to destroy their cities like the Germans did to Russians. The Generals need to put Putin into nice house in Siberia that is well guarded, or maybe an Island like Napoleon. Then they should tax the oligarchs once their money is released and distribute their money that was stolen from the Russian people who were paid poor wages. Cry me a river of crocodile tears. Russia's troops are making good progress, despite losses. They do have an utmost respect for Ukrainians, but none for you. Who only ever pick up fights against unarmed people you outnumber at least 10x. American forces are viewed as the scum of the world over because of it, and Ukraine is your Afghanistan 2.0 Look at Panama and Pandora Papers etc. Russia appears to be one of the least corrupt countries in the world, and USA appears to be the most. Viewed objectively, and not through the propaganda's prism. Big Brother, who cannot lie, will settle this score for good. It is pretty obvious that Putin has no money in foreign accounts, otherwise you'd have found them by now. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ronwagn said: Keep sending in the tanks to be destroyed. Russia will not be able to afford more of them. Tanks are now old technology and outmoded against handheld missiles. More anti-aircraft missiles thousands more handheld missiles. I hope Russia withdraws its troops soon, avoiding death. They need to go home and take care of Putin and his faux congress. Establish a real republic. We'll see about that. A lot of tanks you see are not destroyed, but left behind because they had a problem slowing down other vehicles. They'll pick them up later. There is no Congress as fake as yours. Edited February 26, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: You may view this as Russians being better people than Americans. Don't remember you having much of an antiwar movement since Vietnam? I tend to agree with Margo though. Where were all those antiwar protesters for the last 8 years? I think they relate more to Ukrainians and Belarussians than to Afghanis. These are people of their own culture and they share the repression of Putin and his cronies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 18 hours ago, ronwagn said: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/25/council-of-europe-suspends-russia-over-ukraine-invasion-a76600 Council of Europe Suspends Russia Over Ukraine Invasion By AFP 7 hours ago Is that supposed to be a punishment? They'll lose something like 15% of their budget and the favorite conversation subject (indignation over Russia) You seem to be confusing the CoE with the EU. CoE is actually fun and is going places. Suspending CoE membership means there is death penalty for Nazi crimes in Russia again, though. A few people in Ukraine could use some of that, for starting the 2014 war on your behalf, for example. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Cry me a river of crocodile tears. Russia's troops are making good progress, despite losses. They do have an utmost respect for Ukrainians, but none for you. Who only ever pick up fights against unarmed people you outnumber at least 10x. American forces are viewed as the scum of the world over because of it, and Ukraine is your Afghanistan 2.0 Look at Panama and Pandora Papers etc. Russia appears to be one of the least corrupt countries in the world, and USA appears to be the most. Viewed objectively, and not through the propaganda's prism. Big Brother, who cannot lie, will settle this score for good. It is pretty obvious that Putin has no money in foreign accounts, otherwise you'd have found them by now. Yes, our leaders are somewhat corrupt! They are not yet dictators like Putin. They do the best they can to take over and rule the middle class and make lucrative deals with China. In the next election they will , GOD willing, lose much of their power. We need to rid our culture, and government of communists, socialists, and their fellow travelers. These people are now in control of much of our culture. Maybe Putin is honest, I know that he has little concern for the well being of his people but plenty of concern for his crony capitalists, and they take the money. Putin has whatever he needs from his own government which he rules, for now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Is that supposed to be a punishment? They'll lose something like 15% of their budget and the favorite conversation subject (indignation over Russia) You seem to be confusing the CoE with the EU. CoE is actually fun and is going places. Suspending CoE membership means there is death penalty for Nazi crimes in Russia again, though. A few people in Ukraine could use some of that, for starting the 2014 war on your behalf, for example. Putin will then be eligible for the current war, and the last! Poor Puti. Not a grammatical error. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, ronwagn said: Yes, our leaders are somewhat corrupt! They are not yet dictators like Putin. They do the best they can to take over and rule the middle class and make lucrative deals with China. In the next election they will , GOD willing, lose much of their power. We need to rid our culture, and government of communists, socialists, and their fellow travelers. These people are now in control of much of our culture. Maybe Putin is honest, I know that he has little concern for the well being of his people but plenty of concern for his crony capitalists, and they take the money. Putin has whatever he needs from his own government which he rules, for now. Being a dictator is not the same as being corrupt. Putin is not a dictator, he is genuinely popular. Look up his approval ratings. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, ronwagn said: Putin will then be eligible for the current war, and the last! Poor Puti. Not a grammatical error. Maybe, but your tools come first. Like this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksandr_Turchynov Check him out. A Nazi and a Protestant pastor at once. As an interim President, ordered the Ukrainian military to roll out with heavy weapons and the air force on anti-Maidan protesters in Donetzk in Lugansk, who were initially unarmed. Which was a blatant violation of Ukrainian constitution, BTW. (he committed several counts overall) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starschy + 211 PM February 26, 2022 19 hours ago, ronwagn said: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/25/council-of-europe-suspends-russia-over-ukraine-invasion-a76600 Council of Europe Suspends Russia Over Ukraine Invasion By AFP 7 hours ago That won‘t help them as Russia pays 33 Mio annually after a year they come back lacks the money. Ukraine, Baltics pays irrelevant Sum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starschy + 211 PM February 26, 2022 46 minutes ago, ronwagn said: Keep sending in the tanks to be destroyed. Russia will not be able to afford more of them. Tanks are now old technology and outmoded against handheld missiles. More anti-aircraft missiles thousands more handheld missiles. I hope Russia withdraws its troops soon, avoiding death. They need to go home and take care of Putin and his faux congress. Establish a real republic. There are over 7000 old T-72 in storage don‘t hope for a short on a Equipment. Ukraine lacks money and Equipent for sure after three weeks 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,211 DM February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: There are losses. Thanks for arming terrorists, we'll remember that. Ukrainians are now terrorists???? who invaded the Ukraine??? We will remember who you are working for. Here is something to make your day. Enjoy Germany to send thousands of weapons to Ukraine in major reversal Zachary Basu German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, left, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Photo: Ukrainian Presidency / Handout/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images Germany will send 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 Stinger missiles to Ukraine, marking a complete reversal in Berlin's restrictive arms export policy, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz announced Saturday. Why it matters: Germany has for months come under intense criticism for its response to Russia's aggression toward Ukraine. The government said its "historical responsibilities" prevented it from shipping arms to conflict zones, and had previously blocked other NATO allies from transferring German-origin weapons to Ukraine. What they're saying: "The Russian attack marks a turning point. It is our duty to do our best to help Ukraine defend against the invading army of Putin. That's why we're supplying 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 stinger missiles to our friends in the Ukraine," Scholz tweeted. Germany will also lift its ban on other countries exporting German-origin weapons, allowing the Netherlands to transfer 400 rocket-propelled grenade launchers to Ukraine. The big picture: Germany is the largest economy and most powerful country in the European Union, making its voice and policy positions critical to the effectiveness of the West's response to Russia's invasion. Germany is highly reliant on Russian natural gas and had been an obstacle in discussions about imposing the harshest sanctions on Moscow, fearing the economic and energy reverberations. Massive public pressure, including from Ukrainian officials, appears to have led Germany to drop its opposition to a number of the toughest measures, including halting the certification of the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, notsonice said: Ukrainians are now terrorists???? who invaded the Ukraine??? We will remember who you are working for. Here is something to make your day. Enjoy Germany to send thousands of weapons to Ukraine in major reversal Zachary Basu German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, left, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Photo: Ukrainian Presidency / Handout/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images Germany will send 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 Stinger missiles to Ukraine, marking a complete reversal in Berlin's restrictive arms export policy, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz announced Saturday. Why it matters: Germany has for months come under intense criticism for its response to Russia's aggression toward Ukraine. The government said its "historical responsibilities" prevented it from shipping arms to conflict zones, and had previously blocked other NATO allies from transferring German-origin weapons to Ukraine. What they're saying: "The Russian attack marks a turning point. It is our duty to do our best to help Ukraine defend against the invading army of Putin. That's why we're supplying 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 stinger missiles to our friends in the Ukraine," Scholz tweeted. Germany will also lift its ban on other countries exporting German-origin weapons, allowing the Netherlands to transfer 400 rocket-propelled grenade launchers to Ukraine. The big picture: Germany is the largest economy and most powerful country in the European Union, making its voice and policy positions critical to the effectiveness of the West's response to Russia's invasion. Germany is highly reliant on Russian natural gas and had been an obstacle in discussions about imposing the harshest sanctions on Moscow, fearing the economic and energy reverberations. Massive public pressure, including from Ukrainian officials, appears to have led Germany to drop its opposition to a number of the toughest measures, including halting the certification of the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Pathetic US stooges with no spine and no policy of their own. Too late though. They'll have to somehow deliver those by land, which won't work. Terrorists are those who prefer to fight civilians. Which is what the Ukrainian regime has been doing for the last 8 years. Edited February 26, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,211 DM February 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Pathetic US stooges with no spine and no policy of their own. Too late though. They'll have to somehow deliver those by land, which won't work. Terrorists are those who prefer to fight civilians. Which is what the Ukrainian regime has been doing for the last 8 years. you lost it, you now have been reduced to babbling non-stop. Here is a photo just for you. Enjoy the Javalins and Stinger From Germany to Russia with Love. Pucker up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,211 DM February 26, 2022 SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 26, 2022 - 08:40 Netherlands sending 200 Stinger missiles to Ukraine; More military aid en route The Netherlands will deliver 200 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles to Ukraine as soon as possible, the Cabinet said on Saturday. The decision comes after additional requests from Ukraine for military goods. For this request, a careful, but shortened, assessment against the arms export criteria took place, according to a letter sent by Foreign Affairs Minister Wopke Hoekstra and Defense Minister Kajsa Ollongren to the Tweede Kamer. In addition to the 200 Stinger missiles, the Netherlands already dispatched the military equipment it committed to providing "for Ukrainian self-defense against an armed attack by Russia," Hoekstra said. Some of that material was already sent, with more to be dispatched as soon as possible. The cybersecurity assistance the Netherlands planned to provide earlier this week was delayed due to the Russian invasion. The government is still working with Ukrainian authorities to investigate how Dutch cyberdefense teams can be deployed to assist, Hoekstra said. On Friday, military equipment was on its way from the Netherlands to Ukraine, Ollongren said on the television program Jinek. The Cabinet previously announced it would supply 100 sniper rifles with associated ammunition, five weapon location radars, two battlefield surveillance radars, metal detectors and two wire-guided detection robots to detect naval mines. It would also send 3,000 combat helmets and 2,000 fragmentation vests, according to the Ministry of Defense. The delivery was slightly delayed due to Russia’s complete invasion of Ukraine. "We had a different logistical plan, but the attack by the Russians changed that," Ollongren said. During a telephone conversation with Prime Minister Mark Rutte, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky asked for even more military aid on Friday. The Ministry of Defense was already looking into the request that day, Ollongren said. “We’re going to do our very best to help,” she said. The Netherlands is also looking into how humanitarian and financial aid can be given to Zelensky's government. More clarity on this should be provided in the coming days. Dutch fighter jets sent to patrol NATO airspace in Eastern Europe had already completed their first full day Friday, according to the Ministry of Defense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 36 minutes ago, notsonice said: SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 26, 2022 - 08:40 Netherlands sending 200 Stinger missiles to Ukraine; More military aid en route The Netherlands will deliver 200 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles to Ukraine as soon as possible, the Cabinet said on Saturday. The decision comes after additional requests from Ukraine for military goods. For this request, a careful, but shortened, assessment against the arms export criteria took place, according to a letter sent by Foreign Affairs Minister Wopke Hoekstra and Defense Minister Kajsa Ollongren to the Tweede Kamer. In addition to the 200 Stinger missiles, the Netherlands already dispatched the military equipment it committed to providing "for Ukrainian self-defense against an armed attack by Russia," Hoekstra said. Some of that material was already sent, with more to be dispatched as soon as possible. The cybersecurity assistance the Netherlands planned to provide earlier this week was delayed due to the Russian invasion. The government is still working with Ukrainian authorities to investigate how Dutch cyberdefense teams can be deployed to assist, Hoekstra said. On Friday, military equipment was on its way from the Netherlands to Ukraine, Ollongren said on the television program Jinek. The Cabinet previously announced it would supply 100 sniper rifles with associated ammunition, five weapon location radars, two battlefield surveillance radars, metal detectors and two wire-guided detection robots to detect naval mines. It would also send 3,000 combat helmets and 2,000 fragmentation vests, according to the Ministry of Defense. The delivery was slightly delayed due to Russia’s complete invasion of Ukraine. "We had a different logistical plan, but the attack by the Russians changed that," Ollongren said. During a telephone conversation with Prime Minister Mark Rutte, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky asked for even more military aid on Friday. The Ministry of Defense was already looking into the request that day, Ollongren said. “We’re going to do our very best to help,” she said. The Netherlands is also looking into how humanitarian and financial aid can be given to Zelensky's government. More clarity on this should be provided in the coming days. Dutch fighter jets sent to patrol NATO airspace in Eastern Europe had already completed their first full day Friday, according to the Ministry of Defense. Sending how? There is no place left for NATO cargo flights to land anymore, but do send them. They'll make for a great bonfire in midair. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,211 DM February 26, 2022 Just now, Andrei Moutchkine said: Sending how? There is no place left for NATO cargo flights to land anymore, but do send them. They'll make for a great bonfire in midair. do not worry....Give the Ukraine Patriots a few weeks and the will have a few teams down in Putins backyard in Crimea. Big boats make nice targets. 60 Pound Javelins are easy to hide and move. You really are not very smart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites