Starschy + 211 PM February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, notsonice said: maybe you should take a minute and read up on Russians reliance on SWIFT. Without SWIFT he is screwed and Russia will collapse. Ha Ha Ha Russia has a SWIFT replacement, what a joke. Only dimwitted Russians believe him. You have probably nothing heard of SPFS. Sometimes it helps to read Russian news. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,243 DM February 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Starschy said: You have probably nothing heard of SPFS. Sometimes it helps to read Russian news. You have probably nothing heard ???? babble, try again. Without SWIFT, Russia will collapse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 25, 2022 11. Russia 2020 Nominal GDP in Current U.S. Dollars: $1.48 trillion59 2020 PPP Adjusted GDP in Current International Dollars: $4.13 trillion60 2020 GDP Growth: -3%61 2020 Nominal GDP Per Capita in Current U.S. Dollars: $10,126.762 Russia is the world’s 11th largest economy, with a GDP of $1.48 trillion as of 2020, 3% lower than in 2019.1 Russia has moved toward a more market-based economy over the 30 years since the collapse of the Soviet Union, but government ownership of and intervention in business is still common. As a leading exporter of oil and gas, as well as other minerals and metals, Russia’s economy is highly sensitive to swings in world commodity prices.63 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN February 25, 2022 I just want to make sure that people know that Neo Nazi's are a major contigent in Ukraine... https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-many-neo-nazis-is-the-us-backing-in-ukraine How Many Neo-Nazis Is the U.S. Backing in Ukraine? — Neo NAZIS in the News and on Facebook — Praise Of Ukrainian Neo-Nazi Battalion Given Green Light By Facebook: Intercepthttps://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/praise-ukrainian-neo-nazi-battalion-given-green-light-facebook-intercept EXCERPTThough it has in recent years downplayed its neo-Nazi sympathies, the group’s affinities are not subtle: Azov soldiers march and train wearing uniforms bearing icons of the Third Reich; its leadership has reportedly courted American alt-right and neo-Nazi elements; and in 2010, the battalion’s first commander and a former Ukrainian parliamentarian, Andriy Biletsky, stated that Ukraine’s national purpose was to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen [subhumans].” With Russian forces reportedly moving rapidly against targets throughout Ukraine, Facebook’s blunt, list-based approach to moderation puts the company in a bind: What happens when a group you’ve deemed too dangerous to freely discuss is defending its country against a full-scale assault? –The Intercept According to Facebook’s new internal policy reviewed by The Intercept, the company will “allow praise of the Azov Battalion when explicitly and exclusively praising their role in defending Ukraine OR their role as part of the Ukraine’s National Guard.” Examples of allowed speech include: “Azov movement volunteers are real heroes, they are a much needed support to our national guard,” and “We are under attack. Azov has been courageously defending our town for the last 6 hours,” and “I think Azov is playing a patriotic role during this crisis.” That said, the group still can’t use Facebook for recruiting purposes or publishing its own statements. The regiment’s uniforms and banners will continue to be banned as hate symbol imagery. Examples of speech regarding the group that’s not allowed, includes things like: “Goebbels, the Fuhrer and Azov, all are great models for national sacrifices and heroism,” and “Well done Azov for protecting Ukraine and it’s white nationalist heritage.” Facebook confirmed the decision, but refused to elaborate…. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Ukraine Promises that the United States and Russia broke in betrayal of Ukraine. We owe them! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/25/council-of-europe-suspends-russia-over-ukraine-invasion-a76600 Council of Europe Suspends Russia Over Ukraine Invasion By AFP 7 hours ago Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Tom Nolan said: I just want to make sure that people know that Neo Nazi's are a major contigent in Ukraine... https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-many-neo-nazis-is-the-us-backing-in-ukraine How Many Neo-Nazis Is the U.S. Backing in Ukraine? — Neo NAZIS in the News and on Facebook — Praise Of Ukrainian Neo-Nazi Battalion Given Green Light By Facebook: Intercepthttps://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/praise-ukrainian-neo-nazi-battalion-given-green-light-facebook-intercept EXCERPTThough it has in recent years downplayed its neo-Nazi sympathies, the group’s affinities are not subtle: Azov soldiers march and train wearing uniforms bearing icons of the Third Reich; its leadership has reportedly courted American alt-right and neo-Nazi elements; and in 2010, the battalion’s first commander and a former Ukrainian parliamentarian, Andriy Biletsky, stated that Ukraine’s national purpose was to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen [subhumans].” With Russian forces reportedly moving rapidly against targets throughout Ukraine, Facebook’s blunt, list-based approach to moderation puts the company in a bind: What happens when a group you’ve deemed too dangerous to freely discuss is defending its country against a full-scale assault? –The Intercept According to Facebook’s new internal policy reviewed by The Intercept, the company will “allow praise of the Azov Battalion when explicitly and exclusively praising their role in defending Ukraine OR their role as part of the Ukraine’s National Guard.” Examples of allowed speech include: “Azov movement volunteers are real heroes, they are a much needed support to our national guard,” and “We are under attack. Azov has been courageously defending our town for the last 6 hours,” and “I think Azov is playing a patriotic role during this crisis.” That said, the group still can’t use Facebook for recruiting purposes or publishing its own statements. The regiment’s uniforms and banners will continue to be banned as hate symbol imagery. Examples of speech regarding the group that’s not allowed, includes things like: “Goebbels, the Fuhrer and Azov, all are great models for national sacrifices and heroism,” and “Well done Azov for protecting Ukraine and it’s white nationalist heritage.” Facebook confirmed the decision, but refused to elaborate…. Relation towards anti-Semitism More than 40 Israeli human rights activists signed the petition to stop arms sales to Ukraine arguing that Israel is selling military-style Tavor and Negev automatic weapons to the Ukrainian government knowing that some of these arms end up in the hands of right-wing, Azov militia.[93] Despite accusations that the group is anti-Semitic, some members of the Jewish community in Ukraine support and serve in the Azov Battalion. One of its most prominent members is Nathan Khazin, leader of the "Jewish hundreds" during the 2013 Euromaidan protests in Kyiv.[94] In an interview Andriy Biletsky explained that he regards Israel and Japan as role models for the development of Ukraine.[95] Azov movement Wikipedia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 (edited) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion President of Ukraine Zelensky is Jewish! I am sure he approves of the great job they are doing. Edited February 26, 2022 by ronwagn reference Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-vladimir-putin-europe-moscow-873d65c0bc0b195a9e764d9ebf150822 Protests resume as Russia seeks to quash invasion critics By DASHA LITVINOVAyesterday 1 of 9 Demonstrators shout slogans in St. Petersburg, Russia, Friday, Feb. 25, 2022. Shocked Russians turned out by the thousands Thursday to decry their country's invasion of Ukraine as emotional calls for protests grew on social media. Some 1,745 people in 54 Russian cities were detained, at least 957 of them in Moscow. (AP Photo/Dmitri Lovetsky) MOSCOW (AP) — Protesters took to the streets in Moscow, St. Petersburg and across Russia on Friday to decry the invasion of Ukraine, even as authorities sought to suppress the spreading antiwar sentiment and project an image of strength and righteousness. The largest demonstration erupted in St. Petersburg, where several hundred people spontaneously gathered in the city center, chanting “No to war!” as police in full riot gear detained one protester after another. The OVD-Info rights group that tracks political arrests counted 437 detentions in 26 Russian cities, including 226 in Moscow and 130 in St. Petersburg. In Moscow, police were also detaining random people who were just passing by, according to media reports. The rallies on Friday night appeared smaller than on Thursday, when thousands took to the streets across Russia. A total of 1,820 demonstrators were detained in 58 Russian cities on Thursday night, including 1,002 in Moscow, according to OVD-Info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,243 DM February 26, 2022 44 minutes ago, ronwagn said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion President of Ukraine Zelensky is Jewish! I am sure he approves of the great job they are doing. Amazing that anyone that is not rolling over to Putin is called a Nazi.......... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hotone + 412 February 26, 2022 (edited) @ronwagn The state of US and SE Asian relations: When Blinken made his diplomatic three country visit to SE Asia in December, he received a very rude reception. On the day that he met with Jokowi, the Indonesian president held back to back meetings with a Russian diplomat. https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/blinken-competes-top-russian-official-indonesia-81717986 This is no coincidence and tight slap in the face, since Blinken's visit was planned long in advance. This insult would be unimaginable when Indonesia was ruled by the military; the dictator Suharto, who was installed by the CIA, and the retired general SBY. In fact, current president Jokowi's late father was a known Communist. It was the CIA which triggered the killing of millions in Indonesia. Only part of the CIA's activities have been declassified. While crucial documents that could provide insight into U.S. and Indonesian activities at the time are still concealed, the broad outlines of the atrocity and America’s role are there for anyone who cares to look them up. https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/10/18/indonesia-us-documents-released-1965-66-massacres https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/the-indonesia-documents-and-the-us-agenda/543534/ Moreover, Blinken had to cancel his trip to Thailand - ostensibly because one American journalist contracted COVID. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2232511/blinken-scraps-visit-to-thailand-after-journalist-tests-positive-for-covid In reality, after his speeches in Indonesia and Malaysia, the Thais said to him: YouCut_20220226_115516822.mp4 Edited February 26, 2022 by Hotone 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 20 hours ago, notsonice said: maybe you should take a minute and read up on Russians reliance on SWIFT. Without SWIFT he is screwed and Russia will collapse. Ha Ha Ha Russia has a SWIFT replacement, what a joke. Only dimwitted Russians believe him. There is certainly a replacement for SWIFT that works within Russia. This is why they also cannot prevent VISA/MC cards issued by sanctioned banks from working within Russia. (Including Crimea) Working outside Russia remains TBD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 11 hours ago, ronwagn said: Relation towards anti-Semitism More than 40 Israeli human rights activists signed the petition to stop arms sales to Ukraine arguing that Israel is selling military-style Tavor and Negev automatic weapons to the Ukrainian government knowing that some of these arms end up in the hands of right-wing, Azov militia.[93] Despite accusations that the group is anti-Semitic, some members of the Jewish community in Ukraine support and serve in the Azov Battalion. One of its most prominent members is Nathan Khazin, leader of the "Jewish hundreds" during the 2013 Euromaidan protests in Kyiv.[94] In an interview Andriy Biletsky explained that he regards Israel and Japan as role models for the development of Ukraine.[95] Azov movement Wikipedia Too late. I think Azov is no more. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 5:51 AM, surrept33 said: So it looks like this "operation" was planned for a few days ago: What, there is opposition media in Russia? How come they are not all assassinated with Novichoks yet? Owned by Gazrombank BTW, who US just sanctioned. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/24/russias-economy-on-the-brink-of-crisis-after-ukraine-attack-a76555 Russia’s Economy on the Brink of Crisis After Ukraine Attack Despite Moscow’s talk about a sanctions-proof economy, Putin’s military action will likely have steep costs. By Jake Cordell Feb. 24, 2022 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,243 DM February 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Too late. I think Azov is no more. are you sure???? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 Russia's secret army that was used in the first Ukraine war by the Russian Bear. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group Andrei knows nothing about this of course. Nor does he know about the Chechens going to Ukraine to help Putin out. 🤣 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: What, there is opposition media in Russia? How come they are not all assassinated with Novichoks yet? Owned by Gazrombank BTW, who US just sanctioned. These thousands of Russian protesters across Russia were only those brave enough to stand up to Putin. God bless them and all the millions around the world praying for Ukraine! 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN February 26, 2022 People need to really look at the history of Ukraine... People need to see the history of the CIA and NGOs to grasp that many "protests" against Russia are orchitrated via covert operations. I'm not saying that Putin is an okay guy. I am saying that many people are being duped badly. There is so much U.S. propaganda, and on many flanks. Most people will not do the hard study to LOOK. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 26, 2022 15 hours ago, Hotone said: @ronwagn The state of US and SE Asian relations: When Blinken made his diplomatic three country visit to SE Asia in December, he received a very rude reception. On the day that he met with Jokowi, the Indonesian president held back to back meetings with a Russian diplomat. https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/blinken-competes-top-russian-official-indonesia-81717986 This is no coincidence and tight slap in the face, since Blinken's visit was planned long in advance. This insult would be unimaginable when Indonesia was ruled by the military; the dictator Suharto, who was installed by the CIA, and the retired general SBY. In fact, current president Jokowi's late father was a known Communist. It was the CIA which triggered the killing of millions in Indonesia. Only part of the CIA's activities have been declassified. While crucial documents that could provide insight into U.S. and Indonesian activities at the time are still concealed, the broad outlines of the atrocity and America’s role are there for anyone who cares to look them up. https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/10/18/indonesia-us-documents-released-1965-66-massacres https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/the-indonesia-documents-and-the-us-agenda/543534/ Moreover, Blinken had to cancel his trip to Thailand - ostensibly because one American journalist contracted COVID. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2232511/blinken-scraps-visit-to-thailand-after-journalist-tests-positive-for-covid In reality, after his speeches in Indonesia and Malaysia, the Thais said to him: YouCut_20220226_115516822.mp4 1.87 MB · 0 downloads I guess Indonesia hasn't changed all that much. It is Muslim, so a violent people as a whole. They don't like atheists or communists at all. Here is another example: https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/10/16/indonesia-endorses-killing-drug-suspects-cut-costs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 48 minutes ago, notsonice said: are you sure???? No. It is a whole regiment with several battalions now. Probably more of them in Mariupol'. What does the image of a destroyed Grad suppose to mean? Oh, I see. It's got a Z and thus is Russian? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 36 minutes ago, ronwagn said: I guess Indonesia hasn't changed all that much. It is Muslim, so a violent people as a whole. They don't like atheists or communists at all. Here is another example: https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/10/16/indonesia-endorses-killing-drug-suspects-cut-costs You did cause a massive genocide of at least a million people (officially communists, but really everybody remotely left-wing, and simply any Chinese) and installed what universally is believed to be the most corrupt junta ever, in the entire history of mankind. They have very little reason to like you. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,243 DM February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: No. It is a whole regiment with several battalions now. Probably more of them in Mariupol'. What does the image of a destroyed Grad suppose to mean? Oh, I see. It's got a Z and thus is Russian? many more images showing the welcome that a Russian soldier receives when on holiday in the Ukraine today. Hope you and your Russian pals have a strong stomach. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 47 minutes ago, ronwagn said: These thousands of Russian protesters across Russia were only those brave enough to stand up to Putin. God bless them and all the millions around the world praying for Ukraine! Do you extend blessings to peace protesters when USA bombs it? I barely remember any. Everybody is so happy for people being blown into chunks on a made up pretext (as you have no real reasons to go to war) Remember this This is when USA lost a good friend and acquired an enemy in me. I pray for you. May you encounter something similar to what you bring to the rest of the world close to your own home soon enough. This is what is happening to Ukrainians now. They have been dehumanizing and genociding their own people, aided by slick Western propaganda tools and suddenly are getting a dose of their own medicine. Being Russian and speaking Russian language is a right which one should not be fighting over. Anyhow, start thinking of USA as of bigger Ukraine already, to get into the mood? No technology and no amount of GDP makes you safe against the righteous wrath of the rest of the world. Which will inevitably gang up on you, the abomination on the face of the world. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, notsonice said: many more images showing the welcome that a Russian soldier receives when on holiday in the Ukraine today. Hope you and your Russian pals have a strong stomach. I've seen plenty, thank you, this was to be expected. Ukrainians are us, and thus can fight like us. Making great progress anyway, though. Soon to be deprogrammed and getting a clue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites