notsonice + 1,266 DM February 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Nobody throws rose petals to Stalin. Of course, it is different. They are not attacking civilians for real, US only talks about it. You started that war back in 2014 already. body bags are filling up fast. When will Putin take ownership? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strangelovesurfing + 737 JD February 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Nobody throws rose petals to Stalin. Of course, it is different. They are not attacking civilians for real, US only talks about it. You started that war back in 2014 already. No Andrei, Russia started this war in 2014. Take responsibility for your actions. Big bad Russia, “it’s everybody else's fault!” if you pull out a gun and pull the trigger you are responsible. Good job on your new war of choice. Putin is going mad and you’ll defend and follow him the entire descent to perdition. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strangelovesurfing + 737 JD February 24, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, notsonice said: body bags are filling up fast. When will Putin take ownership? It’s never Russia’s fault, supposedly big and powerful, yet always the victim. The mindset of a sociopath. Edited February 25, 2022 by Strangelovesurfing 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM February 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, Strangelovesurfing said: No Andrei, Russia started this war in 2014. Take responsibility for your actions. Big bad Russia, “it’s everybody else's fault!” if you pull out a gun and pull the trigger you are responsible. Good job on your new war of choice. Putin is going mad and you’ll defend and follow him the entire descent to perdition. There a few posters on this site who only post pro russian BS.....I think they are paid by Putin...they are just obeying orders and trying to earn a few Rubles. No one in their right mind would be defending Putin today unless they are on the take. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, notsonice said: body bags are filling up fast. When will Putin take ownership? Don't get your hopes up, it is a total domination. There is fighting for Kiev already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP February 24, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Don't get your hopes up, it is a total domination. There is fighting for Kiev already. Putin has gone totally nuts! His speech was like that of a rambling psycho, just like Hitler pre WWII Must make you soooo proud! Edited February 24, 2022 by Rob Plant 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP February 24, 2022 The British defense minister reminded Putin of the 1853 Crimean war that ended in the defeat of Nicholas I and said “we can always do it again.” https://www.perild.com/2022/02/23/lets-kick-ass-putin-threatened-in-london/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrept33 + 609 st February 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Don't get your hopes up, it is a total domination. There is fighting for Kiev already. This doesn't seem as effective as, for example, Desert Storm. I went to bed shortly after the initial strikes and I thought it may end up like that. Let's say the government gets overthrown. You don't expect a permanent color revolution against any puppet? It feels like Russia would need to go all Grozny or Aleppo against Kiev. Is Russia really willing to do that against Ukraine? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP February 24, 2022 29 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Don't get your hopes up, it is a total domination. There is fighting for Kiev already. Why are you fighting and killing fellow slavs? Why does Putin say he had no choice or it was the end of Russia? He has gone totally crazy! Are the Russian people going to back a crazy man or get rid off him before its too late? 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,485 DL February 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Don't get your hopes up, it is a total domination. There is fighting for Kiev already. Putin has abandoned any pretense of rationality or desiring to attract support, he is playing it all alone. Usually dictators who do that end up in the trash can themselves. Stalin was getting out of control when he was disposed of in 1953. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrept33 + 609 st February 24, 2022 Worst case for Putin - he ends up getting Ceausescu'd. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Gato + 254 Bs February 25, 2022 Here's your possible driver behind all of this from a Left and Right side source Aleksandr Dugin https://www.huffpost.com/entry/aleksandr-dugin-the-russian-mystic-behind-americas_b_59a1fca2e4b0d0ef9f1c14ac https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/where-putins-evil-ideas-came-from-guests-benjamin-teitelbaum/id620967489?i=1000552038702 One Bad Hombre Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Gato + 254 Bs February 25, 2022 21 hours ago, Boat said: Let’s repeat. All the green transitions need not happen on the backs of the poor like a Putin would do. The idea of greener energy besides eliminating some suffering and earlier death is to lessen the volatility caused by FF. By humans and Mother Nature. Since most rednecks choose to take most discussions out of context. We just plug away and are proud to do it. Angelina is a strong young woman with a great woke message. https://youtu.be/gXOPpwucDYw I got nothing out of that other than a rehashed Leslie Gore that wasn't as good as the original Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrept33 + 609 st February 25, 2022 Yeah, a lot of Dugin's ideas seem to have happened, huh? https://www.reddit.com/r/NeutralPolitics/comments/5mtgkr/aleksandr_dugins_1997_book_the_foundations_of/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Gato + 254 Bs February 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, surrept33 said: Yeah, a lot of Dugin's ideas seem to have happened, huh? https://www.reddit.com/r/NeutralPolitics/comments/5mtgkr/aleksandr_dugins_1997_book_the_foundations_of/ Yes they Have, and if I'm in a Slavic country or in a former Soviet Union Country, I'd be real nervous. Course Tomasz might just have a welcome parade for them. Glad his country is buying 250 M-1 tanks. Hope they get them in Time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, El Gato said: Here's your possible driver behind all of this from a Left and Right side source Aleksandr Dugin https://www.huffpost.com/entry/aleksandr-dugin-the-russian-mystic-behind-americas_b_59a1fca2e4b0d0ef9f1c14ac https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/where-putins-evil-ideas-came-from-guests-benjamin-teitelbaum/id620967489?i=1000552038702 One Bad Hombre I have no idea why is he supposed to be far right or Putin's own theoretician. No evidence of him being anything but fringe in Russia, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Gato + 254 Bs February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: I have no idea why is he supposed to be far right or Putin's own theoretician. No evidence of him being anything but fringe in Russia, too. Dig a little harder. Putin's bought in to his schtick I think, and so do others Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 25, 2022 8 hours ago, surrept33 said: This doesn't seem as effective as, for example, Desert Storm. I went to bed shortly after the initial strikes and I thought it may end up like that. Let's say the government gets overthrown. You don't expect a permanent color revolution against any puppet? It feels like Russia would need to go all Grozny or Aleppo against Kiev. Is Russia really willing to do that against Ukraine? No. Putin said disarment and denazification. A lot of locals will actually rejoice the regime is removed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Gato + 254 Bs February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: No. Putin said disarment and denazification. A lot of locals will actually rejoice the regime is removed. My money says a lot more locals will be really really really pissed, and there's more of them than the ones who rejoice. Notice how Putin had the denazification speech pre-recorded before the invasion? It's not going to end well for either side Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, El Gato said: Dig a little harder. Putin's bought in to his schtick I think, and so do others I tried. It is rather tedious. He gives two hour long monologues on YouTube channel Den', which I otherwise like. The stuff about civilization of the sea battling a civilization of the land is just https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History Is McKinder also a Nazi? The connection to Putin remains obscure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Gato + 254 Bs February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: I tried. It is rather tedious. He gives two hour long monologues on YouTube channel Den', which I otherwise like. The stuff about civilization of the sea battling a civilization of the land is just https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History Is McKinder also a Nazi? The connection to Putin remains obscure. No idea. Dugin Brings together elements of Communism,Facism, and Nationalism into one ball. The fourth something BS he calls it. Anywho, That's what the influence is on Putin, whether direct, or indirect, it's an influence. Karl Marx had long influence on Lenin, though they weren't together Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrept33 + 609 st February 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: No. Putin said disarment and denazification. A lot of locals will actually rejoice the regime is removed. All I know from the last 50 years is that regime change is really hard. What's to keep the new regime in power? They best have a great anti-bomb equipment. It feels like Russia will have to occupy the country, which I also know is really hard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hotone + 412 February 26, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 12:05 AM, Strangelovesurfing said: No Andrei, Russia started this war in 2014. Take responsibility for your actions. Big bad Russia, “it’s everybody else's fault!” if you pull out a gun and pull the trigger you are responsible. Good job on your new war of choice. Putin is going mad and you’ll defend and follow him the entire descent to perdition. We all AGREE that war is never good. But America should take a look in the mirror... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM February 26, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Hotone said: We all AGREE that war is never good. But America should take a look in the mirror... We do look in the mirror, and Russia and China since the end of world war 2 have been doing there best to invade other countries, kill en masse prisoners of war, try to impose communism and install ruthless dictators that kill their own German war prisoners Russia and all their purges ....Must love the gulags ...How many Russians died???? Russians raping German women after WW2 Multiple Communist insurgencies in Free South Vietnam to install the great system of communism North Korea...Kim Jong IL and his pop and grandpop real nice dudes. You upset the US with the UN were battling those dudes supported by China and Russia???? Syria... oh yeah Assad what a great guy with Russian help........ Eastern Bloc their coups, walls , murders of all their political enemies Chinas horrible record of killing its own minorities Cambodia (Pol Pot...remember him...he was one great communist ... are you old enough to remember his slaughter of his own people) supported by China and now Ukraine. Please do a little self reflection, Putin is Evil Your cartoon is pathetic, SHAME on you. Today you should be posting a cartoon of Putin on top of a pile of dead Ukrainians And lets discuss WW2 .....Should we look at that mirror???Are the America Bad Boys in that one also???? Edited February 26, 2022 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strangelovesurfing + 737 JD February 26, 2022 10 hours ago, Hotone said: We all AGREE that war is never good. But America should take a look in the mirror... Your anti-Americanism has blinded you. This isn't about the US or whataboutism. But I agree Russian man named Putin bad, in fact totally insane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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