3-D Chess not the 2-D Chess of Ukraine-Russia - What is actually coming during this decade…

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13 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Resident Viktor Berbash, 58, told news agency AFP he ran out to his balcony after he heard shooting on Friday morning.

"I saw an armoured vehicle and there was automatic fire. And here this car, with probably an anti-aircraft gun on it, was already here."

He watched as the civilian in a car was crushed by a tank -- an intentional move, he said -- unsure if the driver survived or not.

"Two armoured vehicles were driving along the road, and the second of them deliberately drove into the oncoming lane," he said.

"It was not by chance, it was for fun, there was no need for this. And it just ran into this car. Stopped, reversed over it again and drove on."

The Ukrainian ministry of defence said the clash had been provoked by "an enemy sabotage and reconnaissance group".

Russian forces first arrived on the outskirts of Kyiv on Thursday when waves of helicopter-borne troops assaulted the Gostomel airfield just outside the city, close to Obolonsky.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis-first-russian-troops-enter-ukraine-capital-kyiv-street-battle-erupts-2789332

Rob Plant posted this Twitter

https://twitter.com/franakviacorka/status/1497134141627850789?s=20&t=qSGo8Zpw5glWydY_7EXObg

9:59 am. Possibly from Lithuania, on Western European Time, an hour ahead of Kiev? Pretty tight timing. 10 am local time in Kiev would've been still dark, but 11 am is OK.

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2 hours ago, notsonice said:

I think both Putin and the Chinese leadership are all right. ???? must be low IQ then ok got it. 99.9 percent of those posting here would never state Putin and the Chinese leadership are all right. You are the 0.1 percent

Being a part of moral majority does not make you smart. 99.9% of stories you are told about Putin are simply wrong. He is a very low-key, soft-spoken politician, not at all any kind of crazed macho the Western press makes him out to be. I don't really know much about China, but it is safe to assume you are mostly told lies about them, also. The usual dehumanization of the enemy. How many times are you going to fall for that? I understand once or twice, but not twenty?

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a good thread from Wombat's BFF, Maj. Gen. Mick Ryan (AUS) on his opinion of the war so far:

https://twitter.com/WarintheFuture/status/1497023978287730689

I thought:

8/19 We are seeing now what is likely to be the 1st echelon of Russian forces. Russian operational theory emphasises assaulting in depth with multiple echelons. We will see more combat forces committed based on key objectives, location of main effort & breakthrough locations.

was interesting. 

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33 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Right story, wrong vehicle? This one is some kind of flak technical. Was it there, too? I am pretty sure it is nothing either regular army would use.

The guys driving the Strela APC were eventually whacked by "concerned citizens" as suspected Russians in Ukrainian uniforms. They gave out 10,000+ automated weapons in Kiev. Like popcorn. No documents, no questions asked.

Here is the truck he was talking about:

A Russian Ural-4320 carrying a ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft gun was ambushed in Obolon, Kiev. During the ambush, a Russian military vehicle ran over a car.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, surrept33 said:

a good thread from Wombat's BFF, Maj. Gen. Mick Ryan (AUS) on his opinion of the war so far:

https://twitter.com/WarintheFuture/status/1497023978287730689

I thought:

8/19 We are seeing now what is likely to be the 1st echelon of Russian forces. Russian operational theory emphasises assaulting in depth with multiple echelons. We will see more combat forces committed based on key objectives, location of main effort & breakthrough locations.

was interesting. 

Yes. Very little forces committed so far. As little as 60K? 2nd echelon is coming, 1st goes to rest.

He is totally wrong about the political part, though. Belonging to a Western democratic tradition is not a compelling motivator! Democracy is more of a swear word in both Russia and Ukraine by now. Only the stupidest Ukrainians do not understand they have been had there.

Russians are motivated by stopping the genocide of Russian people, which has been going on for the last 8 years with tacit approval of the West.

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5 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Here is the truck he was talking about:

A Russian Ural-4320 carrying a ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft gun was ambushed in Obolon, Kiev. During the ambush, a Russian military vehicle ran over a car.

 

 

This is a ghetto technical. Made by mounting a

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZU-23-2

on a regular truck. The official self-propelled version the military uses is the

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZSU-23-4_Shilka

There is nothing unusual about an old Ural truck in Ukraine. (or Ukrainian KrAZ truck in Russia) These used to have a unified parts bin back in Soviet days.

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44 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Rob Plant posted this Twitter

https://twitter.com/franakviacorka/status/1497134141627850789?s=20&t=qSGo8Zpw5glWydY_7EXObg

9:59 am. Possibly from Lithuania, on Western European Time, an hour ahead of Kiev? Pretty tight timing. 10 am local time in Kiev would've been still dark, but 11 am is OK.

An Ukrainian military medic (L) examines the body of a Russian serviceman wearing a Ukranian service uniform lying beside a vehicle after he and members from a raiding party were shot during a skirmish in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv on February 25, 2022, according to Ukrainian service personnel at the scene. - Russian forces are approaching Kyiv from the north and northeast, Ukraine's army said, with rising fears the capital could fall on the second day of Moscow's offensive. (Photo by Sergei SUPINSKY / AFP) (Photo by SERGEI SUPINSKY/AFP via Getty Images)

 

 

 

 

The wreckage of a vehicle lies on a road after a skirmish between Ukrainian forces and a Russian raiding party in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv on February 25, 2022. - Russian forces are approaching Kyiv from the north and northeast, Ukraine's army said, with rising fears the capital could fall on the second day of Moscow's offensive. (Photo by Sergei SUPINSKY / AFP) (Photo by SERGEI SUPINSKY/AFP via Getty Images)

 

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The World Is Watching Russia Invade Ukraine. But Russian Media Is Telling a Different Story

 

BY TARA LAW 

 

FEBRUARY 25, 2022 4:17 PM EST

The Russian government doesn’t create much of an illusion of press freedom. Many of the most prominent media organizations, from television channels to the Russian news agency TASS, are owned by the federal government, and journalists critical of the political establishment face not only censorship, but also risk to their lives and livelihoods.

That reality has become only more obvious since the Russian invasion of Ukraine. A survey of headlines in Russian news outlets this week reveals not so much what is happening inside the attacking nation, but rather what President Vladimir Putin’s government would like its citizens to believe.

On Thursday, Roskomnadzor—the federal organization responsible for controlling and censoring the media—issued a statement informing the Russian media “they are obliged to only use information and data they have received from official Russian sources.” The statement also warned that unnamed media outlets have spread “unverified and unreliable information.”

While some opposition publications such as Novaya Gazeta attempt to counter the narrative, mainstream Russian news outlets have largely fallen into line—even if the results are unlikely to fool discerning Russian readers who have been exposed to roughly 15 years of pro-government propaganda. The resulting stories are as striking for what they omit as what they actually publish; by and large, Russian media minimizes the scale of the attack on Ukraine—describing it in the phrase used by federal officials, as a “military operation” rather than a “war” or “invasion,” the terms much of western media has used—while uncritically reprinting statements from Putin and other government officials.

 

In some cases, Russian news stories have distorted what is happening on the ground in Ukraine. For example, an article published in RIA News on Thursday repeated the Russian Defense Ministry’s claims that any statements that Russian aircraft, helicopters, and armored vehicles have been lost are “complete lies,” in contradiction of international reports. The article also claimed that Ukrainian military personnel are leaving their positions “en masse,” and that “Ukrainian border guards do not offer any resistance.” Ukrainian officials, meanwhile, have highlighted stories of guards refusing to stand down.

 

A U.S. official told TIME that disparaging comments about the Ukrainian armed forces are part of a Russian strategy “to discourage them and induce surrender through disinformation.” The official said, “Our information indicates Russia is creating a disinformation campaign by publicizing false reports about the widespread surrender of Ukrainian troops. Our information also indicates that Russia plans to threaten killing the family members of Ukrainian soldiers if they do not surrender.”

 

Russian news articles have also minimized the potential danger faced by Ukrainian civilians, often by repeating claims by the government without offering information that could contradict them. For instance, many pieces about the invasion repeated the Russian Military of Defense’s claim that it would attack only military targets, and that Ukrainian civilians are not at risk. A TASS article about the evacuation of Ukrainians to neighboring Moldova ends on that note: “As the Russian Federation’s Ministry of Defense stated, the Russian military isn’t striking at cities, but only incapacitates military infrastructure, so nothing is threatening the civilian population.” This claim is doubtful from a historical perspective, given that about 3,400 civilians were killed in disputed territories in eastern Ukraine between 2014 and 2021, according to the United Nations, and a number of civilians have been killed this week, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has said. Without providing evidence, an article from the Russian news agency Interfax also repeated a claim by Putin that Ukranian forces are using civilians as human shields, and that neo-Nazis are placing heavy weaponry in residential areas.

 

The same deference extends to the subject of the war’s justification. News stories and opinion-driven pieces alike have claimed that the Ukrainian government is a “dictatorship” and that the Russian government was left with no choice but to attack Ukraine. (Zelensky was democratically elected in a process the democratic advocacy organization Freedom House describes as “generally competitive and credible.”) The media has also appealed to Russians’ sense of responsibility for Ukraine, which Putin has alleged has no separate identity of its own—contrary to historical evidence—and has drawn connections between the present crisis and WWII, which Russians refer to as the “Great Patriotic War” and is remembered as a moment of national greatness and sacrifice. Insidiously, many news stories have repeated the Russian government’s claim that part of the purpose of the conflict, in the words of Russian press secretary Dmitry Peskov, is the “de-Nazification” of Ukraine. There is no evidence that the Ukrainian government promotes Nazi ideology, and the claim is particularly striking as President Zelensky is Jewish and lost family members in the Holocaust.

 

It is unclear whether the Russian media’s reporting will persuade many Russians who do not feel the conflict was necessary. As the New York Times reported this week, many Russians believed for some time that the likelihood of their nation’s invading Ukraine was overblown, and their support for the government’s attack has been muted so far. Hundreds of Russians protesting the war have been detained in anti-war protests across the country, opposition publication Novaya Gazeta reports.

 

However, the challenges facing any Russians who hope to turn the political tide against Putin’s regime include this significant obstacle: the absence of a free press.—With reporting by Vera Bergengruen

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14 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

This is a ghetto technical. Made by mounting a

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZU-23-2

on a regular truck. The official self-propelled version the military uses is the

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZSU-23-4_Shilka

There is nothing unusual about an old Ural truck in Ukraine. (or Ukrainian KrAZ truck in Russia) These used to have a unified parts bin back in Soviet days.

I think we have established that you don't know enough about military equipment to make such a claim.

Ural-4320 and 43206 armored gun trucks with ZU-23 cannons and a C-IED EW system from the Russian 201st Military Base in Tajikistan. Photos: Lex Kitaev https://t.me/milinfolive/61581…

 

 

 

 

 

3:03 PM · Jul 21, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

Edited February 26, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

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24 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

An Ukrainian military medic (L) examines the body of a Russian serviceman wearing a Ukranian service uniform lying beside a vehicle after he and members from a raiding party were shot during a skirmish in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv on February 25, 2022, according to Ukrainian service personnel at the scene. - Russian forces are approaching Kyiv from the north and northeast, Ukraine's army said, with rising fears the capital could fall on the second day of Moscow's offensive. (Photo by Sergei SUPINSKY / AFP) (Photo by SERGEI SUPINSKY/AFP via Getty Images)

 

 

 

 

The wreckage of a vehicle lies on a road after a skirmish between Ukrainian forces and a Russian raiding party in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv on February 25, 2022. - Russian forces are approaching Kyiv from the north and northeast, Ukraine's army said, with rising fears the capital could fall on the second day of Moscow's offensive. (Photo by Sergei SUPINSKY / AFP) (Photo by SERGEI SUPINSKY/AFP via Getty Images)

 

Of course. Unless it was a Ukrainian serviceman, the "concerned citizens" whacked. Would make a lot more sense on Occam's Razor grounds alone.

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6 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Of course. Unless it was a Ukrainian serviceman, the "concerned citizens" whacked. Would make a lot more sense on Occam's Razor grounds alone.

You just said "I am pretty sure it is nothing either regular army would use." So how could it be a Ukranian serviceman?

The photographer clearly states: "An Ukrainian military medic (L) examines the body of a Russian serviceman wearing a Ukranian service uniform lying beside a vehicle after he and members from a raiding party were shot during a skirmish in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv on February 25, 2022, according to Ukrainian service personnel at the scene"

Edited February 26, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

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18 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

I think we have established that you don't know enough about military equipment to make such a claim.

Ural-4320 and 43206 armored gun trucks with ZU-23 cannons and a C-IED EW system from the Russian 201st Military Base in Tajikistan. Photos: Lex Kitaev https://t.me/milinfolive/61581…

 

 

 

 

 

3:03 PM · Jul 21, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

Ghetto technicals still. The Taliban those are guarding against got no air force. (At least till US left them some) Neither Ukrainian, nor Russian regulars ought to have any AA vehicles without radar. The LDNR militias and the Nazi goon squads they are fighting in Donbass do use ghetto technicals like these. Not for AA, but to shoot off the top floors of apartment buildings, where snipers usually sit. Ditto for everybody and their mom in Syria. In Afghanistan, used against mountaintops.

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4 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

You just said "I am pretty sure it is nothing either regular army would use." So how could it be a Ukranian serviceman?

The photographer clearly states: "An Ukrainian military medic (L) examines the body of a Russian serviceman wearing a Ukranian service uniform lying beside a vehicle after he and members from a raiding party were shot during a skirmish in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv on February 25, 2022, according to Ukrainian service personnel at the scene"

He is examining a body of somebody wearing a Ukrainian uniform. That being a Russian serviceman remains unsubstantiated. Seems like an impromptu story they invented to cover up the fact that they gave firearms to whoever who started shooting whomever else, claiming them to be Russians. Totaling about 60, including a family of 5 riding a regular SUV.

Do we have the issue of Russian vs. Ukrainian equipment resolved now? Or were the alleged Russian raiders using only the Ukrainian uniforms for cover, but still used Russian equipment?

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Just now, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Ghetto technicals still. The Taliban those are guarding against got no air force. (At least till US left them some) Neither Ukrainian, nor Russian regulars ought to have any AA vehicles without radar. The LDNR militias and the Nazi goon squads they are fighting in Donbass do use ghetto technicals like these. Not for AA, but to shoot off the top floors of apartment buildings, where snipers usually sit. Ditto for everybody and their mom in Syria. In Afghanistan, used against mountaintops.

 These are recent photos of Russian regulars at a Russian military base driving around in what you say doesn't exist. You will forgive me if I think you are just full of crap. 

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12 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

You just said "I am pretty sure it is nothing either regular army would use." So how could it be a Ukranian serviceman?

It could be a Nazi goon squad member. They are technically members of the National Guard now, but are not supposed to get any proper armor and make their own. So do LDNR militias over in Donbass.

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2 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

 These are recent photos of Russian regulars at a Russian military base driving around in what you say doesn't exist. You will forgive me if I think you are just full of crap. 

A base in the Tajikistan is not exactly same as a regular Russian base. Normally, regular Russian troops wouldn't have any wheeled fighting vehicles at all (with a sort-of exception to the new Pantsir) Soviet troops made those during the invasion of Afghanistan. I was not aware they still did.

Anyhow, if you are now switching to the latest Ukrainian version that those were Russians dressed up in Ukrainian uniforms, then you're obviously also claiming that they were driving captured Ukrainian equipment. Anything else is some kind of nonsense.

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2 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

It could be a Nazi goon squad member. They are technically members of the National Guard now, but are not supposed to get any proper armor and make their own. So do LDNR militias over in Donbass.

Then why was he leading two Strella 9A35?

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54 minutes ago, notsonice said:

The World Is Watching Russia Invade Ukraine. But Russian Media Is Telling a Different Story

 

BY TARA LAW 

 

FEBRUARY 25, 2022 4:17 PM EST

The Russian government doesn’t create much of an illusion of press freedom. Many of the most prominent media organizations, from television channels to the Russian news agency TASS, are owned by the federal government, and journalists critical of the political establishment face not only censorship, but also risk to their lives and livelihoods.

That reality has become only more obvious since the Russian invasion of Ukraine. A survey of headlines in Russian news outlets this week reveals not so much what is happening inside the attacking nation, but rather what President Vladimir Putin’s government would like its citizens to believe.

On Thursday, Roskomnadzor—the federal organization responsible for controlling and censoring the media—issued a statement informing the Russian media “they are obliged to only use information and data they have received from official Russian sources.” The statement also warned that unnamed media outlets have spread “unverified and unreliable information.”

While some opposition publications such as Novaya Gazeta attempt to counter the narrative, mainstream Russian news outlets have largely fallen into line—even if the results are unlikely to fool discerning Russian readers who have been exposed to roughly 15 years of pro-government propaganda. The resulting stories are as striking for what they omit as what they actually publish; by and large, Russian media minimizes the scale of the attack on Ukraine—describing it in the phrase used by federal officials, as a “military operation” rather than a “war” or “invasion,” the terms much of western media has used—while uncritically reprinting statements from Putin and other government officials.

 

In some cases, Russian news stories have distorted what is happening on the ground in Ukraine. For example, an article published in RIA News on Thursday repeated the Russian Defense Ministry’s claims that any statements that Russian aircraft, helicopters, and armored vehicles have been lost are “complete lies,” in contradiction of international reports. The article also claimed that Ukrainian military personnel are leaving their positions “en masse,” and that “Ukrainian border guards do not offer any resistance.” Ukrainian officials, meanwhile, have highlighted stories of guards refusing to stand down.

 

A U.S. official told TIME that disparaging comments about the Ukrainian armed forces are part of a Russian strategy “to discourage them and induce surrender through disinformation.” The official said, “Our information indicates Russia is creating a disinformation campaign by publicizing false reports about the widespread surrender of Ukrainian troops. Our information also indicates that Russia plans to threaten killing the family members of Ukrainian soldiers if they do not surrender.”

 

Russian news articles have also minimized the potential danger faced by Ukrainian civilians, often by repeating claims by the government without offering information that could contradict them. For instance, many pieces about the invasion repeated the Russian Military of Defense’s claim that it would attack only military targets, and that Ukrainian civilians are not at risk. A TASS article about the evacuation of Ukrainians to neighboring Moldova ends on that note: “As the Russian Federation’s Ministry of Defense stated, the Russian military isn’t striking at cities, but only incapacitates military infrastructure, so nothing is threatening the civilian population.” This claim is doubtful from a historical perspective, given that about 3,400 civilians were killed in disputed territories in eastern Ukraine between 2014 and 2021, according to the United Nations, and a number of civilians have been killed this week, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has said. Without providing evidence, an article from the Russian news agency Interfax also repeated a claim by Putin that Ukranian forces are using civilians as human shields, and that neo-Nazis are placing heavy weaponry in residential areas.

 

The same deference extends to the subject of the war’s justification. News stories and opinion-driven pieces alike have claimed that the Ukrainian government is a “dictatorship” and that the Russian government was left with no choice but to attack Ukraine. (Zelensky was democratically elected in a process the democratic advocacy organization Freedom House describes as “generally competitive and credible.”) The media has also appealed to Russians’ sense of responsibility for Ukraine, which Putin has alleged has no separate identity of its own—contrary to historical evidence—and has drawn connections between the present crisis and WWII, which Russians refer to as the “Great Patriotic War” and is remembered as a moment of national greatness and sacrifice. Insidiously, many news stories have repeated the Russian government’s claim that part of the purpose of the conflict, in the words of Russian press secretary Dmitry Peskov, is the “de-Nazification” of Ukraine. There is no evidence that the Ukrainian government promotes Nazi ideology, and the claim is particularly striking as President Zelensky is Jewish and lost family members in the Holocaust.

 

It is unclear whether the Russian media’s reporting will persuade many Russians who do not feel the conflict was necessary. As the New York Times reported this week, many Russians believed for some time that the likelihood of their nation’s invading Ukraine was overblown, and their support for the government’s attack has been muted so far. Hundreds of Russians protesting the war have been detained in anti-war protests across the country, opposition publication Novaya Gazeta reports.

 

However, the challenges facing any Russians who hope to turn the political tide against Putin’s regime include this significant obstacle: the absence of a free press.—With reporting by Vera Bergengruen

In other words, just like your media, but with an opposite spin?

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1 minute ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

A base in the Tajikistan is not exactly same as a regular Russian base. Normally, regular Russian troops wouldn't have any wheeled fighting vehicles at all (with a sort-of exception to the new Pantsir) Soviet troops made those during the invasion of Afghanistan. I was not aware they still did.

Anyhow, if you are now switching to the latest Ukrainian version that those were Russians dressed up in Ukrainian uniforms, then you're obviously also claiming that they were driving captured Ukrainian equipment. Anything else is some kind of nonsense.

Let's not lose track that I have established the event happened the morning of February 25th.

Not all Russian units have the newest equipment.

It most certainly sounds like a regular Russian base to me.

Russia’s military base in Tajikistan fully equipped to respond to any threats, says envoy

The 201st military base stationed in Tajikistan is Russia’s largest military facility outside its borders

DUSHANBE, January 28. /TASS/. Russia’s military base in Tajikistan is fully equipped and is ready to respond to potential threats and challenges emanating from Afghanistan, Russia’s Ambassador to the Central Asian country Igor Lyakin-Frolov told TASS on Friday.

"We view positively the issue of increasing the number of joint military drills as part of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) and on a bilateral basis," the ambassador said.

"The 201st Russian military base undoubtedly plays a big role in protecting the organization’s southern frontiers and is a reliable guarantor of security and stability not only in Tajikistan but also in the entire Central Asian space. Over the past few years, the base has been fully equipped and furnished with advanced armaments," he stressed.

"The combat readiness of the Russian base, which can give a worthy response to threats and challenges emanating from Afghanistan, has increased," the ambassador said.

 

Also, there are plans to intensify interaction between the special services of the CSTO member states as part of their joint efforts "to identify and neutralize extremist terrorist cells that are attempting to violate the borders of Tajikistan," the Russian envoy said.

The 201st military base stationed in Tajikistan is Russia’s largest military facility outside its borders. The military base is stationed in the cities of Dushanbe and Bokhtar. The military base comprises motor rifle, armored, artillery and reconnaissance units, air defense forces, radiation, chemical and biological protection and signal troops.

Under an agreement signed in October 2012, Russia’s military base in Tajikistan will remain until 2042.

https://tass.com/defense/1394749

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2 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Then why was he leading two Strella 9A35?

You tell me. It probably is light enough armor that they allowed to have? With Russia having a near complete air superiority, the Ukrainians might be especially interested in distributing AA assets around the city? Makes no sense for a "Russian raid" to be made out of light AA units, given that Ukrainian air forces are largely gone. Who were they supposed to attack?

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3 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Let's not lose track that I have established the event happened the morning of February 25th.

Not all Russian units have the newest equipment.

It most certainly sounds like a regular Russian base to me.

Russia’s military base in Tajikistan fully equipped to respond to any threats, says envoy

The 201st military base stationed in Tajikistan is Russia’s largest military facility outside its borders

 

DUSHANBE, January 28. /TASS/. Russia’s military base in Tajikistan is fully equipped and is ready to respond to potential threats and challenges emanating from Afghanistan, Russia’s Ambassador to the Central Asian country Igor Lyakin-Frolov told TASS on Friday.

"We view positively the issue of increasing the number of joint military drills as part of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) and on a bilateral basis," the ambassador said.

"The 201st Russian military base undoubtedly plays a big role in protecting the organization’s southern frontiers and is a reliable guarantor of security and stability not only in Tajikistan but also in the entire Central Asian space. Over the past few years, the base has been fully equipped and furnished with advanced armaments," he stressed.

"The combat readiness of the Russian base, which can give a worthy response to threats and challenges emanating from Afghanistan, has increased," the ambassador said.

 

Also, there are plans to intensify interaction between the special services of the CSTO member states as part of their joint efforts "to identify and neutralize extremist terrorist cells that are attempting to violate the borders of Tajikistan," the Russian envoy said.

The 201st military base stationed in Tajikistan is Russia’s largest military facility outside its borders. The military base is stationed in the cities of Dushanbe and Bokhtar. The military base comprises motor rifle, armored, artillery and reconnaissance units, air defense forces, radiation, chemical and biological protection and signal troops.

Under an agreement signed in October 2012, Russia’s military base in Tajikistan will remain until 2042.

https://tass.com/defense/1394749

Fine, early morning 25th is still way too early for any Russian armor in Kiev. There still isn't any, really.

Not all Russian units have the newest equipment, but the ones they send on dashing commando raids are, presumably?

Anyhow. You have to pick one line of inquiry for this to make any sense. If they were pretending to be Ukrainians and wearing Ukrainian uniforms, they also had to be driving Ukrainian equipment. Or equipment disguised as Ukrainian. Wearing Ukrainian outfits, while driving clearly Russian equipment, makes no sense whatsoever.

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39 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Fine, early morning 25th is still way too early for any Russian armor in Kiev. There still isn't any, really.

Not all Russian units have the newest equipment, but the ones they send on dashing commando raids are, presumably?

Anyhow. You have to pick one line of inquiry for this to make any sense. If they were pretending to be Ukrainians and wearing Ukrainian uniforms, they also had to be driving Ukrainian equipment. Or equipment disguised as Ukrainian. Wearing Ukrainian outfits, while driving clearly Russian equipment, makes no sense whatsoever.

Wearing Ukrainian outfits, while driving clearly Russian equipment, makes no sense whatsoever.???? yeah it does the Russians are not very smart..... You really are the same.  You keep making up excuses for  the Russians no matter what is presented to you . And at the same time you are running a mis-information campaign. 

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Zelensky is an utter moron. A jew, believing other Jews will come to his rescue. He put himself deliberately as the martyr. If he accepts the Minsk accord, his own nationalists will suicide him. If he does not, Russia will suicide him.

USA demanded Ukraine forfeit its nuclear weapons, in return for US promise to protect Ukraine military and economically.  Like all US promises, broken.  Amurcuns are cowards: will never fight a capable opponent.

The US claims to place sanctions from hell. So, the US is hell. I knew this before such idiotic action. What will you do when crude price exceeds $110/bbl?  Your 'official' debt is $30 trillion. Your 'official' inflation rate is 7%. Investors want more return than the inflation rate: and if not achieved, who will want to hold $US?  7% represents $2.1 trillion needed to cover interest on debt.

To the Amurcun warmongers so eager for war, bring it on. I wonder how loudly you will wail when you see your cities vapourised from weapons against which you have zero defence. Will you then fight an unwinnable war to destroy the planet, or will you cease and try to save what is left?

2022 is an inflection point for the world; the world will now tread a path different to the Amurcun hegemon. Glory be to God.

 

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6 minutes ago, notsonice said:

Wearing Ukrainian outfits, while driving clearly Russian equipment, makes no sense whatsoever.???? yeah it does the Russians are not very smart..... You really are the same.  You keep making up excuses for  the Russians no matter what is presented to you . And at the same time you are running a mis-information campaign. 

Wearing opponents uniforms while using deadly weapons is a war crime. It is not something one commits very casually.

There is no point to masquerade as Ukrainians by somehow wearing their uniforms, without also having Ukrainian equipment or equipment disguised as such. I insist.

Have not noticed Russians being not very smart. In general, you are not being very informative. Try to be more like Jay if you want to participate. We are doing OSINT research here.

Edited February 26, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine

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On 2/23/2022 at 2:14 PM, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Russia does not silence critics / does it to lesser extent than the USA.

Have you seen the video of Boris Nemetsov being killed right in front of the Kremlin with no regard or fear of reprecussion?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Boris_Nemtsov

this invalidates your belief