3-D Chess not the 2-D Chess of Ukraine-Russia - What is actually coming during this decade…

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11 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

But maybe they have already been deprogrammed from their time in the USSR and they are now making their own judgement like most other former USSR members and have come to the same conclusion.

Its a matter of perspective Andrei.

 

How come I haven't? Alternatively, have I been reprogrammed back to viewing USSR as the good guys who ought to have won?

Ukrainian into-space is micromanaged by various Western NGOs starting from pre-school textbooks. Similar to how it works in Germany.

Ultimately, there is only one truth there.

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2 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

How come I haven't? Alternatively, have I been reprogrammed back to viewing USSR as the good guys who ought to have won?

Ukrainian into-space is micromanaged by various Western NGOs starting from pre-school textbooks. Similar to how it works in Germany.

Ultimately, there is only one truth there.

Dunno why.

I guess all of us are subconciously programmed by the state just depends which one you grew up in!

As I say all political systems have their bad points but all of them ultimately want the same thing, control.

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2 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

I will say the level of corruption trying to do business there was bad in Russia but not much different to many parts of the world, MENA, Brazil most of S.E Asia etc. However corruption exists everywhere including Western countries so I'm not pointing the finger here.

 

Russia has no corruption problem. I think it has too little for its income level. (Should be as much as Mexico or Turkey, its peer group) Old Ukraine was perfect. Absolutely everybody took bribes, but they were all very modestly sized and everybody knew what they need to do for you for that money right away.

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Just now, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Old Ukraine was perfect. Absolutely everybody took bribes, but they were all very modestly sized and everybody knew what they need to do for you for that money right away.

That is very true, it was a corrupt system but as everyone knew the rules of the game it worked for them.

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4 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

Dunno why.

I guess all of us are subconciously programmed by the state just depends which one you grew up in!

As I say all political systems have their bad points but all of them ultimately want the same thing, control.

Try to find the actual text of Orwell's Memoir of the Spanish War. Does not seem to be that easy. It is a non-fictional account of how you are being whipped into a war frenzy by the media. I'd like to quote from it.

1984 and Animal Farm were never about USSR, either, like they teach you. The Soviet propaganda was never remotely slick enough to invent Newspeak. The language stayed regular Russian. The modern English is pretty much Newspeak.

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7 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

That is very true, it was a corrupt system but as everyone knew the rules of the game it worked for them.

Petty corruption exists for as long as there is no good legal mechanism or institution to achieve the same thing. It is pointless to fight it on its own, it being an effect rather than the cause of poverty. Neither is it worthwhile to even measure/rank it separately. The poorer the country, the more corrupt. Except for Botswana, allegedly. They are naturally corruption-free.

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7 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Try to find the actual text of Orwell's Memoir of the Spanish War. Does not seem to be that easy. It is a non-fictional account of how you are being whipped into a war frenzy by the media. I'd like to quote from it.

1984 and Animal Farm were never about USSR, either, like they teach you. The Soviet propaganda was never remotely slick enough to invent Newspeak. The language stayed regular Russian. The modern English is pretty much Newspeak.

In fairness Orwell's 1984 almost seems like non-fiction now.

State control is everwhere in every country.

That guy was way ahead of his time.

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3 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

OK I accept theyre not a sovereign nation technically, however I have some Questions

Do the Taiwanese people see themselves as Chinese or Taiwanese?

Do the Taiwanese people want to relinquish their right to choose who rules them?

Do the Taiwanese people want to reduce their standard of living?

Do the Taiwanese people want to remain a democratically run country?

etc etc 

Answer the questions honestly, if the answer to any of these is Yes then Beijing should respect that or they will forever create another Vietam or as you say Northern Ireland, and trust me nobody wants that (well maybe Putin with Ukraine).

The fact you ask these questions demonstrates clearly your ignorance of Taiwan.

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11 minutes ago, frankfurter said:

The fact you ask these questions demonstrates clearly your ignorance of Taiwan.

Ahh the antisemitic xenophobe is back in town!

Hi Franky!

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1 hour ago, Rob Plant said:

In fairness Orwell's 1984 almost seems like non-fiction now.

State control is everwhere in every country.

That guy was way ahead of his time.

Most induhviduals failed to notice anything. Especially in reputable jurisdictions.

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1 hour ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Most induhviduals failed to notice anything. Especially in reputable jurisdictions.

I am sure that the individual Russian took notice today .....Ruble Crashing and Interest rates at 20 percent. Could it be that Russia is not a reputable jurisdiction????? Enjoy the fall of Putins Russia...

Russia central bank more than doubles key interest rate to 20% to boost sinking ruble

PUBLISHED MON, FEB 28 20222:11 AM ESTUPDATED 4 HOURS AGO

 

Natasha Turak@NATASHATURAK

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KEY POINTS

• The bank also said it would be freeing 733 billion rubles ($8.78 billion) in local bank reserves to boost liquidity.
• Russia’s stock and derivatives markets will stay shut on Monday, the central bank said.
• The dramatic developments underline fears of a run on Russia’s banks.

 

Russia’s central bank in Moscow.

Gavriil Grigorov | TASS | Getty Images

Russia’s central bank on Monday more than doubled the country’s key interest rate from 9.5% to 20% as its currency, the ruble, hit a record low against the dollar on the back of a slew of new sanctions and penalties imposed on Russia by Europe and the U.S. for its invasion of Ukraine.

The rate hike, the central bank said, “is designed to offset increased risk of ruble depreciation and inflation.”

 

This follows the central bank’s order to halt foreigners’ bids to sell Russian securities in an effort to contain the market fallout. The ruble fell as far as 119.50 per dollar, down a whopping 30% from Friday’s close. It later pared some of its losses, trading at 93.04 per dollar by 3:30 p.m. in Moscow, still down roughly 20% against the dollar in the last year.

Russia’s stock and derivatives markets will stay shut on Monday, the central bank said.

The bank also said it would be freeing 733 billion rubles ($8.78 billion) in local bank reserves to boost liquidity. Russian Central Bank Governor Elvira Nabiullina will hold a briefing at 1 p.m. London time Monday.

The dramatic developments underline fears of a run on Russia’s banks. Already, long lines to withdraw cash have been seen at ATMs in Russian cities. Sberbank Europe, which is owned by Russia’s state-run Sberbank, says it has experienced “significant outflows of deposits in a very short time.”

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3 minutes ago, notsonice said:

I am sure that the individual Russian took notice today .....Ruble Crashing and Interest rates at 20 percent. Could it be that Russia is not a reputable jurisdiction????? Enjoy the fall of Putins Russia...

Russia central bank more than doubles key interest rate to 20% to boost sinking ruble

PUBLISHED MON, FEB 28 20222:11 AM ESTUPDATED 4 HOURS AGO

 

Natasha Turak@NATASHATURAK

SHAREShare Article via FacebookShare Article via TwitterShare Article via LinkedInShare Article via Email

KEY POINTS

• The bank also said it would be freeing 733 billion rubles ($8.78 billion) in local bank reserves to boost liquidity.
• Russia’s stock and derivatives markets will stay shut on Monday, the central bank said.
• The dramatic developments underline fears of a run on Russia’s banks.

 

Russia’s central bank in Moscow.

Gavriil Grigorov | TASS | Getty Images

Russia’s central bank on Monday more than doubled the country’s key interest rate from 9.5% to 20% as its currency, the ruble, hit a record low against the dollar on the back of a slew of new sanctions and penalties imposed on Russia by Europe and the U.S. for its invasion of Ukraine.

The rate hike, the central bank said, “is designed to offset increased risk of ruble depreciation and inflation.”

 

This follows the central bank’s order to halt foreigners’ bids to sell Russian securities in an effort to contain the market fallout. The ruble fell as far as 119.50 per dollar, down a whopping 30% from Friday’s close. It later pared some of its losses, trading at 93.04 per dollar by 3:30 p.m. in Moscow, still down roughly 20% against the dollar in the last year.

Russia’s stock and derivatives markets will stay shut on Monday, the central bank said.

The bank also said it would be freeing 733 billion rubles ($8.78 billion) in local bank reserves to boost liquidity. Russian Central Bank Governor Elvira Nabiullina will hold a briefing at 1 p.m. London time Monday.

The dramatic developments underline fears of a run on Russia’s banks. Already, long lines to withdraw cash have been seen at ATMs in Russian cities. Sberbank Europe, which is owned by Russia’s state-run Sberbank, says it has experienced “significant outflows of deposits in a very short time.”

Russia never claimed to be reputable. You hold steady now, the strike back is coming,

Sberbank Europe has like 12x as much money of it own then it does customer deposits. Your banks still have what, 1/10? Some are gonna go pop-pop-pop now.

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1 minute ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Russia never claimed to be reputable. You hold steady now, the strike back is coming,

Sberbank Europe has like 12x as much money of it own then it does customer deposits. Your banks still have what, 1/10? Some are gonna go pop-pop-pop now.

the strike back is coming????? you are now reduced to babbling non-stop. 

 

Are banks even open in Russia today??? ATMS out of Rubles and dollars is the  Putins new Russia. Next up bread lines?????? LOve the photo of smiling Russians waiting in line??? oops no smiling Russians

 

Russians run from ‘ATM to ATM to get cash’, long queues seen.

Ukraine-Russia crisis: People stand in line to use an ATM money machine in Saint Petersburg, Russia  (REUTERS) 3 min read . Updated: 28 Feb 2022, 10:44 AM ISTReuters

 

• Ukraine-Russia crisis: Russians waited in long lines amid concerns bank cards may cease to function, or that banks would limit cash withdrawals

Russians waited in long queues outside ATMs on Sunday, worried that new Western sanctions over Moscow's invasion of Ukraine will trigger cash shortages and disrupt payments.

Moves to block some Russian banks from the SWIFT global payments system and freeze the Bank of Russia's reserves are expected to deal a severe economic blow, although Russian authorities and lenders sought to assuage fears.

"Since Thursday, everyone has been running from ATM to ATM to get cash. Some are lucky, others not so much," St Petersburg resident, Pyotr, who declined to give his last name, said.

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1 minute ago, notsonice said:

the strike back is coming????? you are now reduced to babbling non-stop. 

 

Are banks even open in Russia today??? ATMS out of Rubles and dollars is the  Putins new Russia. Next up bread lines?????? LOve the photo of smiling Russians waiting in line??? oops no smiling Russians

 

Russians run from ‘ATM to ATM to get cash’, long queues seen.

Ukraine-Russia crisis: People stand in line to use an ATM money machine in Saint Petersburg, Russia  (REUTERS) 3 min read . Updated: 28 Feb 2022, 10:44 AM ISTReuters

 

• Ukraine-Russia crisis: Russians waited in long lines amid concerns bank cards may cease to function, or that banks would limit cash withdrawals

Russians waited in long queues outside ATMs on Sunday, worried that new Western sanctions over Moscow's invasion of Ukraine will trigger cash shortages and disrupt payments.

Moves to block some Russian banks from the SWIFT global payments system and freeze the Bank of Russia's reserves are expected to deal a severe economic blow, although Russian authorities and lenders sought to assuage fears.

"Since Thursday, everyone has been running from ATM to ATM to get cash. Some are lucky, others not so much," St Petersburg resident, Pyotr, who declined to give his last name, said.

Steady, little girl, steady. Russia can handle it. Those are strange people. Most Russians haven't used any cash for years.

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8 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Steady, little girl, steady. Russia can handle it. Those are strange people. Most Russians haven't used any cash for years.

love it when you lose

Most Russians haven't used any cash for years.??? and yet today they are trying to get cash as they can smell the crash of banks in the air. Cash ....meaning Dollars. Rubles are toilet paper. Are banks even open in Russia today???? ha ha ha

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4 minutes ago, notsonice said:

love it when you lose

Most Russians haven't used any cash for years.??? and yet today they are trying to get cash as they can smell the crash of banks in the air. Cash ....meaning Dollars. Rubles are toilet paper. Are banks even open in Russia today???? ha ha ha

Steady, little girl, steady. You just brought your dollars that much closer to toilet paper status today. Only gold is real cash anymore.

I don't know if banks work, but bank cards work for POS (buying stuff) Also in other countries, if they were tied to ruble accounts instead of dollars or euro.

Edited February 28, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine

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5 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Steady, little girl, steady. You just brought your dollars that much closer to toilet paper status today. Only gold is real cash anymore.

I don't know if banks work, but bank cards work for POS (buying stuff) Also in other countries, if they were tied to ruble accounts instead of dollars or euro.

 

Only gold is real cash anymore???? maybe in Russia....In the free world dollars are king. Dollars can buy gold ..Can rubles today???? ha ha ha

Putin must be doing real bad today as is all of Russia

 

PS dollars are toilet paper.........oh boy you really are babbling now

Updated 14 seconds ago - World

Russian forces shell civilian areas as first round of peace talks ends

Zachary Basu, Dave Lawler

 

 

 

 

Ukraine Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov (second from left) arrives today for talks in Belarus' Gomel region. Photo by Sergei Kholodilin/BELTA/AFP via Getty Images

As a first round of peace talks concluded at the Ukraine-Belarus border on Monday, Ukrainian cities including Kharkiv in the east were continuing to face some of the heaviest shelling of the war thus far, with reports of significant civilian casualties.

The latest: A senior U.S. defense official told reporters that Russian forces advanced toward Kyiv by around 5 kilometers in the past 24 hours, putting them roughly 25 kilometers outside the city center. Journalists in the Ukrainian capital are reporting missile fire and loud explosions.

• Russia has deployed nearly 75% of its assembled combat power inside Ukraine, and has launched approximately 380 missiles so far, the official said.
• Five days into the war, Russia has still not achieved air superiority over Ukraine, with its ground forces "running out of gas and having logistics problems," the official added.
• The official said the Russians' goal continues to be to "encircle Kyiv from multiple locations," and to capture the cities of Kharkiv and Mariupol to isolate eastern Ukraine.
• Zoom in: In the town of Berdyansk, which is now under Russian control, residents shouted at the occupying troops to go home and sang the Ukrainian national anthem.

State of play: As the first round of talks ended one of the Ukrainian representatives, Zelensky adviser Mikhail Podolyak, tweeted that the Russian side was "extremely biased." Expectations of a breakthrough remain low.

• As peace talks were just beginning, Ukraine's Interior Ministry said dozens of civilians had been killed and hundreds wounded by indiscriminate shelling in Kharkiv, a city of 1.4 million on the border with Russia.
• French President Emmanuel Macron had a phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin, in which Putin said a deal "is possible only if Russia’s legitimate security interests are unconditionally taken into account," according to a Kremlin readout.
• The State Department accused Russia on Monday of "widespread" human rights abuses during the invasion: "Russia’s invasion has damaged and destroyed schools, hospitals, radio stations, and homes, killing and injuring civilians, including children."

The big picture: Zelensky's office called for an "immediate ceasefire and the withdrawal of troops from Ukraine" as several high-ranking Ukrainian officials headed to the talks, but he expressed little optimism that the negotiations would result in an end to the attack.

The room where peace talks will take place. Photo: Foreign Ministry of Belarus handout/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images

What else is happening: Zelensky signed an application on Monday for his country to join the EU, a day after European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said Ukraine is "one of us and we want them in."

• 16 Ukrainian children have been killed and 45 have been wounded during the war, while Russia has suffered 4,500 casualties, Zelensky said in his latest address. International monitors have not verified these numbers.
• Zelensky said that he will allow prisoners with combat experience to be released to help defend the country and "compensate their guilt."
• Ukraine's deputy defense minister also claimed Ukraine has received "thousands" of requests from foreign volunteers to join a new "International Legion" to fight Russia.
• Russia closed its airspace to Germany, France, the U.K. and 33 other countries, after the EU froze out Russian aircraft on Monday.
• More than 500,000 refugees have fled to neighboring countries, including Poland, Hungary, Romania and Moldova, the U.N. said.

Zoom out: Russia's currency collapsed in overnight trading, with the ruble plummeting against the dollar as the West imposed unprecedented, crippling sanctions and massive corporations said they would end their business in Russia.

• The Russian central bank raised interest rates from 9.5% to 20% and announced a raft of measures — including the suspension of stock trading on the Moscow Exchange — in a desperate attempt to stop the bleeding.
• The Biden administration announced Monday morning that Russia's central bank will be prohibited from undertaking transactions in dollars under a new concerted effort by the U.S. and its allies that is set to accelerate Russia's economic tailspin.

Edited February 28, 2022 by notsonice

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3 minutes ago, notsonice said:

 

Only gold is real cash anymore???? maybe in Russia....In the free world dollars are king. Dollars can buy gold ..Can rubles today???? ha ha ha

Putin must be doing real bad today as is all of Russia

 

PS dollars are toilet paper.........oh boy you really are babbling now

Updated 14 seconds ago - World

Russian forces shell civilian areas as first round of peace talks ends

Zachary Basu, Dave Lawler

 

 

 

 

Ukraine Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov (second from left) arrives today for talks in Belarus' Gomel region. Photo by Sergei Kholodilin/BELTA/AFP via Getty Images

As a first round of peace talks concluded at the Ukraine-Belarus border on Monday, Ukrainian cities including Kharkiv in the east were continuing to face some of the heaviest shelling of the war thus far, with reports of significant civilian casualties.

The latest: A senior U.S. defense official told reporters that Russian forces advanced toward Kyiv by around 5 kilometers in the past 24 hours, putting them roughly 25 kilometers outside the city center. Journalists in the Ukrainian capital are reporting missile fire and loud explosions.

• Russia has deployed nearly 75% of its assembled combat power inside Ukraine, and has launched approximately 380 missiles so far, the official said.
• Five days into the war, Russia has still not achieved air superiority over Ukraine, with its ground forces "running out of gas and having logistics problems," the official added.
• The official said the Russians' goal continues to be to "encircle Kyiv from multiple locations," and to capture the cities of Kharkiv and Mariupol to isolate eastern Ukraine.
• Zoom in: In the town of Berdyansk, which is now under Russian control, residents shouted at the occupying troops to go home and sang the Ukrainian national anthem.

State of play: As the first round of talks ended one of the Ukrainian representatives, Zelensky adviser Mikhail Podolyak, tweeted that the Russian side was "extremely biased." Expectations of a breakthrough remain low.

• As peace talks were just beginning, Ukraine's Interior Ministry said dozens of civilians had been killed and hundreds wounded by indiscriminate shelling in Kharkiv, a city of 1.4 million on the border with Russia.
• French President Emmanuel Macron had a phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin, in which Putin said a deal "is possible only if Russia’s legitimate security interests are unconditionally taken into account," according to a Kremlin readout.
• The State Department accused Russia on Monday of "widespread" human rights abuses during the invasion: "Russia’s invasion has damaged and destroyed schools, hospitals, radio stations, and homes, killing and injuring civilians, including children."

The big picture: Zelensky's office called for an "immediate ceasefire and the withdrawal of troops from Ukraine" as several high-ranking Ukrainian officials headed to the talks, but he expressed little optimism that the negotiations would result in an end to the attack.

The room where peace talks will take place. Photo: Foreign Ministry of Belarus handout/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images

What else is happening: Zelensky signed an application on Monday for his country to join the EU, a day after European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said Ukraine is "one of us and we want them in."

• 16 Ukrainian children have been killed and 45 have been wounded during the war, while Russia has suffered 4,500 casualties, Zelensky said in his latest address. International monitors have not verified these numbers.
• Zelensky said that he will allow prisoners with combat experience to be released to help defend the country and "compensate their guilt."
• Ukraine's deputy defense minister also claimed Ukraine has received "thousands" of requests from foreign volunteers to join a new "International Legion" to fight Russia.
• Russia closed its airspace to Germany, France, the U.K. and 33 other countries, after the EU froze out Russian aircraft on Monday.
• More than 500,000 refugees have fled to neighboring countries, including Poland, Hungary, Romania and Moldova, the U.N. said.

Zoom out: Russia's currency collapsed in overnight trading, with the ruble plummeting against the dollar as the West imposed unprecedented, crippling sanctions and massive corporations said they would end their business in Russia.

• The Russian central bank raised interest rates from 9.5% to 20% and announced a raft of measures — including the suspension of stock trading on the Moscow Exchange — in a desperate attempt to stop the bleeding.
• The Biden administration announced Monday morning that Russia's central bank will be prohibited from undertaking transactions in dollars under a new concerted effort by the U.S. and its allies that is set to accelerate Russia's economic tailspin.

Soon enough, little girl, soon enough. This breaks the very mechanism of central bank currency reserve. Globalization spearheaded by USA died today. I am not sure that you have anything to laugh over.

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Russian economy spirals into deepening crisis as sanctions send people into panic The West's latest round of sanctions against Russia has stoked fears of an economic depression after the ruble reached its lowest level against the dollar in history.

 

By Erik Ortiz

Widening Western sanctions roiled the Russian economy Monday, forcing the ruble to crater to a level around 30 percent against the U.S. dollar. Worried Russians stood in line near ATMs for hours amid fears of worsening inflation.

The volatile situation unfolding in the wake of Russian President Vladimir Putin's large-scale invasion of Ukraine led his country to freeze its stock market Monday as he presided over a meeting with top officials over the economic crisis.

 

The Russian central bank also hiked interest rates to 20 percent from 9.5 percent in an emergency measure to protect the ruble's value. Even before Russia's military assault on Ukraine, the inflation rate was at 8.7 percent in January, its highest since 2016.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov described the new Western sanctions, which include blocking some Russian banks from the SWIFT international payment system and restricting Russia's use of its massive foreign currency reserves, as "heavy," but argued Monday that "Russia has the necessary potential to compensate the damage."

 

People stand in line last week to withdraw U.S. dollars and euros from an ATM in St. Petersburg, Russia.Dmitri Lovetsky / AP

Still, ordinary Russians remained anxious about the prospects of a serious economic downturn.

Over the weekend, social media posts showed lines snaking along streets with Russians attempting to take out as much foreign currency as possible from ATMs.

A European subsidiary of Sberbank, Russia's largest bank, said it has experienced "significant outflows of deposits in a very short time," CNBC reported.

The country last faced a major cash crisis in 2014, when oil prices fell amid turmoil caused by Western sanctions imposed before and after Moscow annexed the Crimean Peninsula from Ukraine. Russia's central bank said last week that it would increase supplies of cash to ATMs in anticipation of increased demand.

Meanwhile, certain bank branches could close or the country could declare a bank holiday to stave off a deepening crisis.

The U.S. Department of the Treasury announced further sanctions Monday on "key sources of Russia's wealth" that would immobilize any assets of the Russian central bank in the United States or held by Americans. The department also sanctioned a key Russian sovereign wealth fund, the Russian Direct Investment Fund, worth about $10 billion, and its CEO, Kirill Dmitriev, a Putin ally.

The Biden administration estimated that the increased sanctions could affect "hundreds of billions of dollars" of Russian funding.

Biden administration officials said Germany, France, the United Kingdom, Italy, Japan, the European Union and others will join the United States in targeting the Russian central bank, as well.

The sanctions waged by the West in retaliation for Putin's actions are "unprecedented and severe," and indicate how the U.S. and its allies are being more forceful than the "tepid" response in 2014, said Margarita Balmaceda, a professor of diplomacy and international relations at Seton Hall University and the author of "Russian Energy Chains."

Edited February 28, 2022 by notsonice

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8 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Soon enough, little girl, soon enough. This breaks the very mechanism of central bank currency reserve. Globalization spearheaded by USA died today. I am not sure that you have anything to laugh over.

lol your pathetic name calling shows how ignorant you are. Are all Russians as petty as you? 

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8 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Finally, I've had enough. It is going to cost you.

Delusions of grandeur. 

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1 hour ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Delusions of grandeur. 

 Fit for Wombat's deputy!

Edited February 28, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine

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51 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Delusions of grandeur. 

You may be speaking to Putin himself right here on the chatroom.

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2 hours ago, notsonice said:

lol your pathetic name calling shows how ignorant you are. Are all Russians as petty as you? 

It is true. You also escalated all the way and have nothing left. This is worse than what they did to Nazis in WWII and is still not going to do jack, except to put a few more nails into the coffin of US hegemony. You will pay for everything.

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1 minute ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

It is true. You also escalated all the way and have nothing left. This is worse than what they did to Nazis in WWII and is still not going to do jack, except to put a few more nails into the coffin of US hegemony. You will pay for everything.

lol You will pay for everything???????..... spoken like a madman