Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN March 7, 2022 The following was cut from REUTERS because it goes against the official narrative. See this REUTERS ARCHIVE VERSION - https://archive.ph/7OlJU …Russia had been forced into taking decisive actions to force the demilitarisation of Ukraine, he said, rather than just recognising the independence of the breakaway regions. This was in order to protect the 3 million Russian-speaking population in these republics, who he said were being threatened by 100,000 Ukrainian troops. “We couldn’t just recognise them. What were we going to do with the 100,000 army that was standing at the border of Donetsk and Lugansk that could attack at any moment. They were being brought U.S. and British weapons all the time,” he said. In the run-up to the Russian invasion, Ukraine repeatedly and emphatically denied Moscow’s assertions that it was about to mount an offensive to take back the separatist regions by force. Peskov said the situation in Ukraine had posed a much greater threat to Russia’s security than it had in 2014, when Russia had also amassed 150,000 troops at its border with Ukraine, prompting fears of a Russian invasion, but had limited its action to the annexation of Crimea. “Since then the situation has worsened for us. In 2014, they began supplying weapons to Ukraine and preparing the army for NATO, bringing it in line with NATO standards,” he said.“In the end what tipped the balance was the lives of these 3 million people in Donbass. We understood they would be attacked.” Peskov said Russia had also had to act in the face of the threat it perceived from NATO, saying it was “only a matter of time” before the alliance placed missiles in Ukraine as it had in Poland and Romania.“We just understood we could not put up with this any more. We had to act,” he said. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here is the original Reuters version which headlined via Yahoo News on Monday morning March 7th, 2022 https://www.yahoo.com/news/kremlin-says-russian-military-action-115703035.html and the archived version of Yahoo News - https://archive.ph/OmLmO But compare with the later censored version of Reuters ---> - https://archive.ph/7OlJU Russia will stop 'in a moment' if Ukraine meets terms - Kremlin By Catherine Belton LONDON (Reuters) -Russia has told Ukraine it is ready to halt military operations "in a moment" if Kyiv meets a list of conditions, the Kremlin spokesman said on Monday. Dmitry Peskov said Moscow was demanding that Ukraine cease military action, change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory, and recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states. It was the most explicit Russian statement so far of the terms it wants to impose on Ukraine to halt what it calls its "special military operation", now in its 12th day. Peskov told Reuters in a telephone interview that Ukraine was aware of the conditions. "And they were told that all this can be stopped in a moment." There was no immediate reaction from the Ukrainian side. Russia has attacked Ukraine from the north, east and south, pounding cities including Kyiv, Kharkiv and the port of Mariupol. The invasion launched on Feb. 24, has caused the worst refugee crisis in Europe since World War Two, provoked outrage across the world, and led to heavy sanctions on Moscow. But the Kremlin spokesman insisted Russia was not seeking to make any further territorial claims on Ukraine and said it was "not true" that it was demanding Kyiv be handed over. "We really are finishing the demilitarisation of Ukraine. We will finish it. But the main thing is that Ukraine ceases its military action. They should stop their military action and then no one will shoot," he said. On the issue of neutrality, Peskov said: "They should make amendments to the constitution according to which Ukraine would reject any aims to enter any bloc." He added: "We have also spoken about how they should recognise that Crimea is Russian territory and that they need to recognise that Donetsk and Lugansk are independent states. And that’s it. It will stop in a moment." NEW TALKS The outlining of Russia's demands came as delegations from Russia and Ukraine prepared to meet on Monday for a third round of talks aimed at ending Russia’s war against Ukraine. It began soon after Putin recognised two breakaway regions of eastern Ukraine, where Russian-backed separatists have been fighting Ukrainian government forces since 2014, as independent - an action denounced as illegal by the West. "This is not us seizing Lugansk and Donetsk from Ukraine. Donetsk and Lugansk don’t want to be part of Ukraine. But it doesn’t mean they should be destroyed as a result," Peskov said. "For the rest. Ukraine is an independent state that will live as it wants, but under conditions of neutrality." He said all the demands have been formulated and handed over during the first two rounds of talks between Russian and Ukrainian delegations, which took place last week. "We hope that all this will go OK and they will react in a suitable way," Peskov said. Russia had been forced into taking decisive actions to force the demilitarisation of Ukraine, he said, rather than just recognising the independence of the breakaway regions. This was in order to protect the 3 million Russian-speaking population in these republics, who he said were being threatened by 100,000 Ukrainian troops. "We couldn’t just recognise them. What were we going to do with the 100,000 army that was standing at the border of Donetsk and Lugansk that could attack at any moment. They were being brought U.S. and British weapons all the time," he said. In the run-up to the Russian invasion, Ukraine repeatedly and emphatically denied Moscow's assertions that it was about to mount an offensive to take back the separatist regions by force. Peskov said the situation in Ukraine had posed a much greater threat to Russia’s security than it had in 2014, when Russia had also amassed 150,000 troops at its border with Ukraine, prompting fears of a Russian invasion, but had limited its action to the annexation of Crimea. "Since then the situation has worsened for us. In 2014, they began supplying weapons to Ukraine and preparing the army for NATO, bringing it in line with NATO standards," he said. "In the end what tipped the balance was the lives of these 3 million people in Donbass. We understood they would be attacked." Peskov said Russia had also had to act in the face of the threat it perceived from NATO, saying it was "only a matter of time" before the alliance placed missiles in Ukraine as it had in Poland and Romania. "We just understood we could not put up with this any more. We had to act," he said. (Reporting by Catherine Belton, editing by Mark Trevelyan, Gareth Jones and Angus MacSwan) 3 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN March 7, 2022 I don't think many people grasp how the MainStream Media is shaping the narrative...and that the masses are buying it. This article by Reuters (their own censorship displayed) shows how they dupe people by not presenting all the facts. This is presented above. There are a lot of people who don't get it... the media is not there to give people the true story. The Media is controlled by your Masters, because your Masters own the Media. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM March 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tom Nolan said: I don't think many people grasp how the MainStream Media is shaping the narrative...and that the masses are buying it. This article by Reuters (their own censorship displayed) shows how they dupe people by not presenting all the facts. This is presented above. There are a lot of people who don't get it... the media is not there to give people the true story. The Media is controlled by your Masters, because your Masters own the Media. and yet you post media reports nonstop. Looks like Putin is your master. 2 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fozzir + 68 March 8, 2022 (edited) Guys, I don't know about Reuters but this is just a special military operation to get the Nazi's out of Ukraine. Vlad says it himself. Edited March 8, 2022 by fozzir 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff March 8, 2022 6 hours ago, notsonice said: and yet you post media reports nonstop. Looks like Putin is your master. He is trying to show, to vile ignoramuses like you, how the msm omits and distorts facts so you receive a controlled picture: aka propaganda. The level of hysteria you and your masters have reached is at a level unprecedented in history. In fact, reaching the level of insanity. How is a reasonable person to converse with an insane person? If you are unaware, in the USA and Europe, thousands of innocent people are now being hounded and their livelihoods terminated solely for the reason they are Russian. A case in point is a female opera singer at the NY Met: terminated for no reason other than her nationality. Other cases include violence, vandalism, desecration. These actions are no different from those Hitler perpetrated from 1930-45, and these alone prove the USA is a Nazi regime. When we add to this picture the deliberate criminal intent to alter human DNA by injecting innocents with an mRNA gene, the proof is greater. 1 1 3 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,190 March 8, 2022 15 hours ago, fozzir said: Guys, I don't know about Reuters but this is just a special military operation to get the Nazi's out of Ukraine. Vlad says it himself. If you actually believe that, I have some swamp land to sell you below sea level. Has great bio diversity. A sucker like you will pay top dollar right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fozzir + 68 March 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: If you actually believe that, I have some swamp land to sell you below sea level. Has great bio diversity. A sucker like you will pay top dollar right? Hold your horses there cowboy. Don't shoot the messenger, shoot Putin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 March 8, 2022 On 3/7/2022 at 2:48 PM, Tom Nolan said: I don't think many people grasp how the MainStream Media is shaping the narrative...and that the masses are buying it. This article by Reuters (their own censorship displayed) shows how they dupe people by not presenting all the facts. This is presented above. There are a lot of people who don't get it... the media is not there to give people the true story. The Media is controlled by your Masters, because your Masters own the Media. "Even a broken clock is correct sometimes" Speaking of the Mainstream Media and the Globalist Narrative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrept33 + 609 st March 8, 2022 19 hours ago, fozzir said: Guys, I don't know about Reuters but this is just a special military operation to get the Nazi's out of Ukraine. Vlad says it himself. Here is what the German embassy said, followed by Zelensky, quoted in a Israeli newspaper: https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium-germany-slams-putin-s-cynical-denazification-narrative-on-ukraine-invasion-1.10655431 https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/nazism-is-born-in-silence-ukraine-president-urges-world-jews-to-speak-up-1.10646176 “It's definitely not 'fighting Nazism.' Shame on anyone who's falling for this. (Sadly, we're kinda experts on Nazism),” the German Embassy tweeted in a sharp attack on a frequent Russian talking point, which has raised both the ire of the international community and the Ukrainian Jewish community. Ukrainian Jews expressed outrage on February 24 after Russian troops entered their country on a self-declared mission of “denazification,” claiming that Kyiv was actively carrying out war crimes against its own citizens. Russian strikes have destroyed civilian infrastructure across the country, including a local Hillel House and Jewish day school in Kharkiv. Last Tuesday, Russian forces launched an attack on Kyiv’s primary television transmitter, which is located on the edge of the grounds of the Babi Yar massacre site, where tens of thousands of Jews were killed by the Nazis and their local collaborators within a 48-hour period in 1941. In the aftermath of the strike, Ukrainian President Zelenskyy, who is Jewish, declared: “To the world: What is the point of saying 'never again' for 80 years, if the world stays silent when a bomb drops on the same site of Babi Yar? At least five killed. History repeating.” "For anyone who knows world history, our history, Babi Yar is a special place in Kyiv, in Ukraine. It's a place of remembrance for one hundred thousand people killed by the Nazis, a place of old cemeteries in Kyiv. You are killing the victims of the Holocaust for the second time." "They don't know a thing about Kyiv, about our history. But they all have orders to erase our history, erase our country, erase us all," he added in the address. Up to ten thousand Ukrainian immigrants could arrive in Israel in the near future, and that would only be the first wave of refugees streaming into the country, the head of the Jewish Agency’s regional director for the former Soviet Union told reporters last week. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 March 9, 2022 If we talk about this war watch this John Mearsheimer returns for the third time as a salon speaker. We hosted John for his trenchant analysis of the abject failure our quest for global dominance and for his courageous book with Steve Walt on the liability of American support for Israel. John is the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago, where he has taught since 1982. He graduated from West Point (1970), has a PhD in political science from Cornell University (1981), and has written extensively about security issues and international politics. In 2003, he was elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and in 2020, he won the James Madison Award, given by the American Political Science Association to “an American political scientist who has made a distinguished scholarly contribution to political science.” His principal work on Ukraine is “Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault: The Liberal Delusions That Provoked Putin,” appearing in September-October Foreign Affairs 2014. The video of his talk has been viewed more than 18 million times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiS.... Ray McGovern is a long-time Russian specialist. After serving as an Army combat intelligence officer in the early 60s, Ray joined the CIA’s analyst ranks. His first portfolio focused on the Sino-Soviet conflict, which was deftly exploited by Nixon/Kissinger (with more than just interpreter assistance from our own Chas Freeman). As chief of the Soviet Foreign Policy Branch, Ray’s analytical team supported the SALT negotiations and he was in Moscow for the signing of the ABM Treaty, cornerstone of strategic stability for the next three decades. Ray correctly predicted Brezhnev's invasion of Czechoslovakia but incorrectly predicted Putin would not invade Ukraine. Ray thinks the new Russia-China entente helps explain Putin's gamble. See Ray's website http://raymcgovern.com/ and posts on http://antiwar.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppD_bhWODDc&t=1587s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 March 9, 2022 And this fundamental lecture from 2015. 6 years aago and you could think it was filmed yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4&t=459s UnCommon Core: The Causes and Consequences of the Ukraine Crisis John J. Mearsheimer, the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor in Political Science and Co-director of the Program on International Security Policy at the University of Chicago, assesses the causes of the present Ukraine crisis, the best way to end it, and its consequences for all of the main actors. A key assumption is that in order to come up with the optimum plan for ending the crisis, it is essential to know what caused the crisis. Regarding the all-important question of causes, the key issue is whether Russia or the West bears primary responsibility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 March 9, 2022 Russia fights by around 150,000 soldiers in Ukraine. Whole army is about 1.200.000. For the first week, she used only about 50-60,000. The equipment used in this operation is rather quite old - the T-72B and BMP-2 are at least 30-35 years old. At the same time, Russia is building humanitarian corridors. In my opinion, the strategic goals are 2- to close Ukraine's path to NATO definitively without annexing further territories. Two - triggering a wave of several million emigrants to the European Union as a means of putting pressure on the Union in order to lift sanctions. By Russian standards, they are not fighting too brutally - according to UN data, about 500 civilians have died so far. By comparison, 500,000 civilians died in Syria. In my opinion, sooner or later the West will have to accept the NATO border on the Bug river. This corresponds to the traditional border of the Russian sphere of influence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 March 9, 2022 As a memento I suggest watching this - Russia told Biden in 1997 that NATO expansion will force them to look to China, Biden: good luck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huL4mTx55Kw Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 March 9, 2022 Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger essentially predicted the current situation that led to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in a chilling op-ed published eight years ago. Kissinger penned an op-ed in the Washington Post on March 5, 2014 headlined, "To settle the Ukraine crisis, start at the end," which detailed much of what has unfolded as Russia’s attack continues. "Public discussion on Ukraine is all about confrontation. But do we know where we are going? In my life, I have seen four wars begun with great enthusiasm and public support, all of which we did not know how to end and from three of which we withdrew unilaterally. The test of policy is how it ends, not how it begins," Kissinger wrote. Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger speaks at the Nobel Peace Prize Forum in Oslo, Sunday, Dec. 11, 2016. (Terje Bendiksby/NTB scanpix via AP) (The Associated Press) "Far too often the Ukrainian issue is posed as a showdown: whether Ukraine joins the East or the West. But if Ukraine is to survive and thrive, it must not be either side’s outpost against the other — it should function as a bridge between them," he continued. "Russia must accept that to try to force Ukraine into a satellite status, and thereby move Russia’s borders again, would doom Moscow to repeat its history of self-fulfilling cycles of reciprocal pressures with Europe and the United States." RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE: LIVE UPDATES The eight-year-old piece detailed why many Russians historically feel that Ukraine would never be seen as an independent country. A Russian attack severely damaged a children's hospital and maternity ward in the besieged port city of Mariupol on Wednesday, Ukrainian officials said. (Mariupol City Council) "The West must understand that, to Russia, Ukraine can never be just a foreign country. Russian history began in what was called Kievan-Rus. The Russian religion spread from there. Ukraine has been part of Russia for centuries, and their histories were intertwined before then. Some of the most important battles for Russian freedom, starting with the Battle of Polyvana in 1709, we fought on Ukrainian soil," Kissinger who was secretary of state from 1973 to 1977, continued. HENRY KISSINGER: AMERICA 'LOST STRATEGIC FOCUS' IN AFGHANISTAN WITH UNATTAINABLE GOALS Kissinger explained why priorities needed to be established in order for Ukraine to thrive. "Even such famed dissidents as Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn and Joseph Brodsky insisted that Ukraine was an integral part of Russian history and, indeed, of Russia," he wrote. "The European Union must recognize that its bureaucratic dilatoriness and subordination of the strategic element to domestic politics in negotiating Ukraine’s relationship to Europe contributed to turning a negotiation into a crisis. Foreign policy is the art of establishing priorities." Kissinger called Ukrainians "the decisive element" because they live in a country with a deep history and a "polyglot composition," noting the Western part of the nation was "incorporated into the Soviet Union in 1939, when Stalin and Hitler divided up the spoils" but the largely Russian section of Crimea didn’t become part of Ukraine until 1954. "The west is largely Catholic; the east largely Russian Orthodox. The west speaks Ukrainian; the east speaks mostly Russian. Any attempt by one wing of Ukraine to dominate the other — as has been the pattern — would lead eventually to civil war or break up. To treat Ukraine as part of an East-West confrontation would scuttle for decades any prospect to bring Russia and the West — especially Russia and Europe — into a cooperative international system," Kissinger wrote. Henry Kissinger, left, talks to Hans-Dietrich Genscher, former foreign minister of West Germany prior to a memorial service in the St Nikolai Church marking the 25th anniversary of the peaceful German revolution in Leipzig, Germany in 2014. (AP Photo/Jens Meyer, file) (The Associated Press) RUSSIA EXPERT SHREDS BIDEN ADMIN OVER UKRAINE NO-FLY ZONE: 'DUMB AS A SIBERIAN SHOE' When Kissinger penned the column, Ukraine had been independent for only 23 years. "Not surprisingly, its leaders have not learned the art of compromise, even less of historical perspective. The politics of post-independence Ukraine clearly demonstrates that the root of the problem lies in efforts by Ukrainian politicians to impose their will on recalcitrant parts of the country, first by one faction, then by the other," he wrote. "A wise U.S. policy toward Ukraine would seek a way for the two parts of the country to cooperate with each other. We should seek reconciliation, not the domination of a faction," Kissinger added. "Russia and the West, and least of all the various factions in Ukraine, have not acted on this principle. Each has made the situation worse. Russia would not be able to impose a military solution without isolating itself at a time when many of its borders are already precarious. For the West, the demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one." He stated Putin should come to realize, despite "grievances," that a "policy of military impositions would produce another Cold War." Civilians continue to flee from Irpin due to ongoing Russian attacks in Irpin, Ukraine on March 08, 2022. (Photo by Emin Sansar/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images) "For its part, the United States needs to avoid treating Russia as an aberrant to be patiently taught rules of conduct established by Washington. Putin is a serious strategist — on the premises of Russian history. Understanding U.S. values and psychology are not his strong suits. Nor has understanding Russian history and psychology been a strong point of U.S. policymakers," Kissinger wrote. "Leaders of all sides should return to examining outcomes, not compete in posturing." WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE US IMPOSED A NO-FLY ZONE IN UKRAINE? The former Secretary of State then laid out his "notion of an outcome compatible with the values and security interests of all sides" in a four-part plan. "1. Ukraine should have the right to choose freely its economic and political associations, including with Europe. 2. Ukraine should not join NATO, a position I took seven years ago, when it last came up," he wrote. "3. Ukraine should be free to create any government compatible with the expressed will of its people. Wise Ukrainian leaders would then opt for a policy of reconciliation between the various parts of their country. Internationally, they should pursue a posture comparable to that of Finland. That nation leaves no doubt about its fierce independence and cooperates with the West in most fields but carefully avoids institutional hostility toward Russia," Kissinger continued. "4. It is incompatible with the rules of the existing world order for Russia to annex Crimea. But it should be possible to put Crimea’s relationship to Ukraine on a less fraught basis. To that end, Russia would recognize Ukraine’s sovereignty over Crimea. Ukraine should reinforce Crimea’s autonomy in elections held in the presence of international observers. The process would include removing any ambiguities about the status of the Black Sea Fleet at Sevastopol." Kissinger said these are "principles, not prescriptions," and people familiar with the region would know that not all of them will be palatable to all parties. "The test is not absolute satisfaction but balanced dissatisfaction. If some solution based on these or comparable elements is not achieved, the drift toward confrontation will accelerate. The time for that will come soon enough," he wrote to conclude the column. https://www.foxnews.com/media/flashback-2014-washington-post-column-henry-kissinger-russia-ukraine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starschy + 211 PM March 9, 2022 That day is far away. First they are going to Odessa and second to Kyiv. After that will be the question what kind of Ukraine is still available. You can be sure Zelensky is controlling nothing anymore. No more imports and exports from the South only over Poland, Hungary but that is not easy as the Railway system in Ukraine is with Russian Tracks and the other with the European one. Zelensky may be then the President of 2-5 Regions around Kyiv. Finland as example is using the Russian tracks which makes import and export much easier. No one threatens Russia with Nukes as Selensky in Munich. Now he's not longer for NATO and He will abandon those Budapest Memorandums. There is no more strategic thinking in Kyiv only emotions. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 706 March 12, 2022 Right now it looks like Russia continues to fail in the offensive and can be beaten since it has turned most of the world against it. Putin is obviously no Christian and his Archbishop is a fraud too. Russians are fleeing out of the country while they can. More money is fleeing. Putin has failed his own people miserably and should be shot ASAP for the horrors he has created around the world. I feel sorry for the Russian people. They deserve more. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM March 12, 2022 (edited) On 3/9/2022 at 3:25 PM, Tomasz said: Russia fights by around 150,000 soldiers in Ukraine. Whole army is about 1.200.000. For the first week, she used only about 50-60,000. The equipment used in this operation is rather quite old - the T-72B and BMP-2 are at least 30-35 years old. At the same time, Russia is building humanitarian corridors. In my opinion, the strategic goals are 2- to close Ukraine's path to NATO definitively without annexing further territories. Two - triggering a wave of several million emigrants to the European Union as a means of putting pressure on the Union in order to lift sanctions. By Russian standards, they are not fighting too brutally - according to UN data, about 500 civilians have died so far. By comparison, 500,000 civilians died in Syria. In my opinion, sooner or later the West will have to accept the NATO border on the Bug river. This corresponds to the traditional border of the Russian sphere of influence. In my opinion, sooner or later the West will have to accept the NATO border on the Bug river.???? NUTS PS how is your Gazprom doing now?????? You said you were a buyer at $4. Love watching people that invest in Russia going bankrupt...... Edited March 12, 2022 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM March 12, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 3:40 PM, Starschy said: That day is far away. First they are going to Odessa and second to Kyiv. After that will be the question what kind of Ukraine is still available. You can be sure Zelensky is controlling nothing anymore. No more imports and exports from the South only over Poland, Hungary but that is not easy as the Railway system in Ukraine is with Russian Tracks and the other with the European one. Zelensky may be then the President of 2-5 Regions around Kyiv. Finland as example is using the Russian tracks which makes import and export much easier. No one threatens Russia with Nukes as Selensky in Munich. Now he's not longer for NATO and He will abandon those Budapest Memorandums. There is no more strategic thinking in Kyiv only emotions. You can be sure Zelensky is controlling nothing anymore???? ha ha ha.........tell that to the Russians who have died already.......... how many dead or wounded???15,000 to 20,000 Russian troops to date just in 2 weeks........ Looks like Zelensky and company are kicking ass 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN March 12, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 4:18 PM, Tomasz said: Ray McGovern is a long-time Russian specialist. After serving as an Army combat intelligence officer in the early 60s, Ray joined the CIA’s analyst ranks. His first portfolio focused on the Sino-Soviet conflict, which was deftly exploited by Nixon/Kissinger (with more than just interpreter assistance from our own Chas Freeman). As chief of the Soviet Foreign Policy Branch, Ray’s analytical team supported the SALT negotiations and he was in Moscow for the signing of the ABM Treaty, cornerstone of strategic stability for the next three decades. Ray correctly predicted Brezhnev's invasion of Czechoslovakia but incorrectly predicted Putin would not invade Ukraine. Ray thinks the new Russia-China entente helps explain Putin's gamble. See Ray's website http://raymcgovern.com/ and posts on http://antiwar.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppD_bhWODDc&t=1587s Thanks for posting this Tomaz. I'm very familiar with AntiWar.com and also Ray McGovern. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,443 TN March 12, 2022 (edited) On 3/9/2022 at 4:30 PM, Tomasz said: Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger essentially predicted the current situation that led to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in a chilling op-ed published eight years ago. Kissinger penned an op-ed in the Washington Post on March 5, 2014 headlined, "To settle the Ukraine crisis, start at the end," which detailed much of what has unfolded as Russia’s attack continues. If people are not familiar with what occurred in Ukraine in late 2013 into 2014, and especially February 23 and 24th, 2014, then they are in the dark about the February 24th, 2022 Ukraine invasion by Russia. Most people ignore the historic facts of U.S. covert interventions to overthrow democratically elected governments around the world...the list is long and the U.S. covert activities are incidiously responsible for the deaths of many millions. If people trust the U.S. government, they are drinking koolaide. This is not to put Putin on a pedestal, nor to justify war...but the fact of the matter is that the biggest warmonger in the modern age is the U.S. Edited March 12, 2022 by Tom Nolan 3 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 March 12, 2022 Explained in 8 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkC9mZgaLDI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 March 12, 2022 The West loved Yeltsin's Russia and wants another Yeltsin. They can't believe that they didn't see Vladimir Putin coming after Yeltsin who seems to be of the same quality and toughness as the WW2 Russians who defeated Hitler. Never surrender.. always forwards. In the 90s western powers promised Russia that they were on the path to prosperity when the country was turning into an impoverished drug-addicted miserable wasteland Now the west says that Russia is "collapsing". Figure it out for yourself Russia in the 90s had a certain aesthetic. Gangsters controlling every aspect of daily life, glue-sniffing children hiding in the basements, heroin addicts in every hallway, people indulging in VHS romanticism over pirated comedies about NY Everyone's glad that it's all over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 March 12, 2022 Supposedly Russian & Donbass forces have captured so many Javelins that the Russian gov has put together a manual Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,006 GE March 12, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Ron Wagner said: Right now it looks like Russia continues to fail in the offensive and can be beaten since it has turned most of the world against it. Putin is obviously no Christian and his Archbishop is a fraud too. Russians are fleeing out of the country while they can. More money is fleeing. Putin has failed his own people miserably and should be shot ASAP for the horrors he has created around the world. I feel sorry for the Russian people. They deserve more. Is assassination a Christian value? Maybe in the old testament or for holy war purposes. This is not a holy war, nor even a war that we are officially part of. Assassination would be criminal and a sin. Don't pretend to be better if you will kill just like him. Edited March 12, 2022 by TailingsPond 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 March 12, 2022 Well former US Ambassador in Russia Michael McFaul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites