Andrei Moutchkine + 828 March 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, Rob Plant said: Europe Scrambles To Accommodate LNG Import Surge https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Europe-Scrambles-To-Accommodate-LNG-Import-Surge.html "The Russian war in Ukraine made Europe rethink its energy strategy, and the European Union has now drafted plans to cut EU demand for Russian gas by two-thirds before the end of 2022 and completely by 2030, to replenish gas stocks for winter and ensure the provision of affordable, secure, and sustainable energy." The actual deadline is April 1 - Pay in rubles, or the gas is getting cut NOW. Not accepting candy wrappers anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 March 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Rob Plant said: ... and Russia is a pariah in the global community. British-level delusional https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10565481/Thousands-flood-downtown-streets-Brazil-unofficial-Carnival-celebrations.html The party is still on in Rio! Thousands flood downtown streets in Brazil for unofficial Carnival celebrations, while the rest of the world protests in solidarity over Russia's invasion of Ukraine. "Rest of the world" Yeah, right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 March 28, 2022 The collective West was so anxious to encircle Russia with NATO military bases that it finally achieved the following. It is expected that the great China-Russia-Iran-Pakistan alliance will be established with India, favorably disposed towards Russia. In fact, what the West has achieved over the last 30 years with the neverending incessant pressure to expand its sphere of influence is that, despite Putin's initial interest in cooperating with the West, you de facto left him no choice but to co-operate closely with China. You have left Russia no choice, so please do not be surprised now that Russia has opted for China. With the attitude of the collective West for 30 years, there is simply no other choice. Is really neverending NATO expansion worth a price of sino-russian alliance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,441 TN March 28, 2022 51 minutes ago, Tomasz said: The collective West was so anxious to encircle Russia with NATO military bases that it finally achieved the following. It is expected that the great China-Russia-Iran-Pakistan alliance will be established with India, favorably disposed towards Russia. In fact, what the West has achieved over the last 30 years with the neverending incessant pressure to expand its sphere of influence is that, despite Putin's initial interest in cooperating with the West, you de facto left him no choice but to co-operate closely with China. You have left Russia no choice, so please do not be surprised now that Russia has opted for China. With the attitude of the collective West for 30 years, there is simply no other choice. Is really neverending NATO expansion worth a price of sino-russian alliance? Tomasz, Correct and spot-on. It was predictable. Personally, I think that all of this is part of a deeper plan globally... to usher in Digital Currencies and further control populations. The U.S. knows quite well that it is destroying the dollar dominance. It is like the book 1984, where "we are at war with ______". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 March 28, 2022 (edited) West didn't appear to factor into their rabid desire to impose sanctions on Russia,that they have allowed Russia and Russian companies to default legitimately on all dollar and euro denominated debt. So where does that leave the creditors? Brain dead is being polite. Total external debt (the sum of portfolio debt liabilities, other investment liabilities, and the debt of Russian affiliates towards foreign parents in FDI relationships) is at $478 billion, *roughly the size of reserves held in foreign exchange.* Edited March 28, 2022 by Tomasz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,323 RG March 28, 2022 Since when do governments consider investors in times of war. If I were you I would invest in Russian tank, helicopter and airplane manufacturers. In the west you invest in hand held missile launchers. Lol How much money do you have. Tanks are having a problem. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,323 RG March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Tomasz said: The collective West was so anxious to encircle Russia with NATO military bases that it finally achieved the following. It is expected that the great China-Russia-Iran-Pakistan alliance will be established with India, favorably disposed towards Russia. In fact, what the West has achieved over the last 30 years with the neverending incessant pressure to expand its sphere of influence is that, despite Putin's initial interest in cooperating with the West, you de facto left him no choice but to co-operate closely with China. You have left Russia no choice, so please do not be surprised now that Russia has opted for China. With the attitude of the collective West for 30 years, there is simply no other choice. Is really neverending NATO expansion worth a price of sino-russian alliance? I told you before when Russia was helping Assad and Iran. Europe was getting missiles and troops. Every move Russia makes is countered by the US and has been since WWII. We call it proportional response. Y’all just to busy talking smack to listen. Russian politics is as smart as their Generals. Stuck on a road in Ukraine waiting on a drone. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,211 DM March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Tomasz said: West didn't appear to factor into their rabid desire to impose sanctions on Russia,that they have allowed Russia and Russian companies to default legitimately on all dollar and euro denominated debt. So where does that leave the creditors? Brain dead is being polite. Total external debt (the sum of portfolio debt liabilities, other investment liabilities, and the debt of Russian affiliates towards foreign parents in FDI relationships) is at $478 billion, *roughly the size of reserves held in foreign exchange.* Debts will get settled and Russia will never be allowed to trade with the West........ Great. Where does that leave Russia??? ha ha ha same as Gazprom .....it just keeps going down.... 218.60 RUB −8.40 (3.70%)today Mar 28, 7:00 PM GMT+3 • Disclaimer Market Summary > Gazprom PAO 218.60 RUB -132.30 (-37.70%) year to date Mar 28, 7:00 PM GMT+3 • Disclaimer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrept33 + 609 st March 28, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tomasz said: The collective West was so anxious to encircle Russia with NATO military bases that it finally achieved the following. It is expected that the great China-Russia-Iran-Pakistan alliance will be established with India, favorably disposed towards Russia. lol, pakistan, china, and india in an alliance together? not in a million years. the pakistan/china relationship, along with russia becoming a client state of chinas, is inevitably going to draw India closer to Quad. what is india going to do when China demands Russia stop selling arms and advanced defense systems to India? The US and India understand this, which is why the US is playing the long game with India: https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/us-sanctions-on-india-for-buying-russian-s-400-missiles-unlikely-122032300516_1.html Keep in mind that it wasn't long ago when India was completely reliant on Russian arms, and it's already gone down a lot: https://sipri.org/sites/default/files/2021-03/fs_2103_at_2020.pdf The overall decrease in Russia’s arms exports between 2011–15 and 2016–20 was almost entirely attributable to a 53 per cent drop in its arms exports to India.” This reduction has brought down “its [Russian] share of total Indian arms imports from 70 to 49 per cent.” Pretty much every industry in Russia is going to get bled dry except for resource extraction. Edited March 28, 2022 by surrept33 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 March 28, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, notsonice said: Debts will get settled and Russia will never be allowed to trade with the West........ Great. Where does that leave Russia??? ha ha ha same as Gazprom .....it just keeps going down.... 218.60 RUB −8.40 (3.70%)today Mar 28, 7:00 PM GMT+3 • Disclaimer Market Summary > Gazprom PAO 218.60 RUB -132.30 (-37.70%) year to date Mar 28, 7:00 PM GMT+3 • Disclaimer Yeap. Last full-year year profit only about 40 bilion dollars from selling NG at historic high price. It looks like bankrupcy IMHO. $ 100 crude oil for the next few years. Besides, I say Russia's ally is now China, not the West. And you will continue to buy raw materials because you have no other choice. Russia has opted for an alliance with China - if someone does not believe it, I recommend meeting Putin Xi Jinping on February 4, 2022. Yeap there is going to be bifurcation. Chiamerica - global economy of China and America combined is going to be divided between 2 antagonizing blocks. Russia is China junior partner so it will trade more with China than the West of course. High time for Europe to buy more expensive commodities all over the world. Its end of globalization. In near future you will have 2 blocks against each other and probably even 2 internet systems with firewall. But I still dont understand why should I worry about my Gazprom shares when there is going to be some real huge dividend in next couple of years. Edited March 28, 2022 by Tomasz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,211 DM March 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tomasz said: Yeap. Last full-year year profit only about 40 bilion dollars from selling NG at historic high price. It looks like bankrupcy IMHO. $ 100 crude oil for the next few years. Besides, I say Russia's ally is now China, not the West. And you will continue to buy raw materials because you have no other choice. Russia has opted for an alliance with China - if someone does not believe it, I recommend meeting Putin Xi Jinping on February 4, 2022. Yeap there is going to be bifurcation. Chiamerica - global economy of China and America combined is going to be divided between 2 antagonizing blocks. Russia is China junior partner so it will trade more with China than the West of course. High time for Europe to buy more expensive commodities all over the world. Its end of globalization. In near future you will have 2 blocks against each other and probably even 2 internet systems with firewall. But I still dont understand why should I worry about my Gazprom shares when there is going to be some real huge dividend in next couple of years. Last full-year ??? newsflash there is a new game and Russia and Gazprom are the losers...... Who will Gazprom export gas to in 2024?????? No new sales ...just expiring contracts going forward ........No one will trade with Russia in the future.... Enjoy your dividends of zero.... A company that has no sales is worthless.... How did you do at buying more shares in the beginning of Feb??? you bragged about doubling down..... PS China is stopping pausing its projects with Russia March 28, 202210:48 AM MDTLast Updated 5 hours ago March 28, 202210:48 AM MDTLast Updated 5 hours ago EXCLUSIVE China's Sinopec pauses Russia projects, Beijing wary of sanctions -sources Let me guess you are a Russian thinking that people will keep trading with Russia no matter what..........Good luck Edited March 28, 2022 by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrept33 + 609 st March 28, 2022 (edited) On 3/27/2022 at 6:35 AM, Andrei Moutchkine said: That's objectively false. Nobody has even tried to storm Kiev yet. This would make little sense, with Ze and the government not there anymore. Most of the Russian (and Ukrainian) forces are in Donbass. Ze is not in Kyiv? Gee, I've seen multiple western journalists interview him in person Kyiv the last few weeks. Here is the economist's released today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNjiRmIWtss in print: https://www.economist.com/europe/volodymyr-zelensky-on-why-ukraine-must-defeat-putin/21808448 it would be a grand conspiracy indeed if all of these journalists were lying. Edited March 28, 2022 by surrept33 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrept33 + 609 st March 28, 2022 41 minutes ago, Tomasz said: Yeap there is going to be bifurcation. Chiamerica - global economy of China and America combined is going to be divided between 2 antagonizing blocks. good luck with that. let's look at recent history. Russia and China just agreed less than two months ago to a new major pipeline, the "Power of Siberia 2" pipeline, on a 30-year deal. Notably, the transactions on that pipeline will be settled in Euros. Not Rubles. Not Yuan. Neither country trusts the other's currency to be sufficiently stable, and this is with a self-described "No Limits" partnership. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St.Stinger 0 March 28, 2022 On 3/12/2022 at 5:39 PM, Tomasz said: Supposedly Russian & Donbass forces have captured so many Javelins that the Russian gov has put together a manual At present count Ukraine has more tanks now than when The "special military exercise" started. So Russian soldiers must be using the Javelins on their own Commanders. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichieRich216 + 454 RK March 29, 2022 Fuck Putin and Russia; Putin wants to rebuild the old USSR before he does. Ukraine is kicking his ass, and he looks as dumb as Biden on the world stage. The best resolution is for someone to pop Putin in the head with any caliber at their disposal. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, RichieRich216 said: Putin wants to rebuild the old USSR before he does. You say it like it was a bad thing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 March 29, 2022 2 hours ago, St.Stinger said: At present count Ukraine has more tanks now than when The "special military exercise" started. So Russian soldiers must be using the Javelins on their own Commanders. It really doesn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 March 29, 2022 3 hours ago, surrept33 said: good luck with that. let's look at recent history. Russia and China just agreed less than two months ago to a new major pipeline, the "Power of Siberia 2" pipeline, on a 30-year deal. Notably, the transactions on that pipeline will be settled in Euros. Not Rubles. Not Yuan. Neither country trusts the other's currency to be sufficiently stable, and this is with a self-described "No Limits" partnership. Two months ago was a different era. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 March 29, 2022 4 hours ago, surrept33 said: Ze is not in Kyiv? Gee, I've seen multiple western journalists interview him in person Kyiv the last few weeks. Here is the economist's released today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNjiRmIWtss in print: https://www.economist.com/europe/volodymyr-zelensky-on-why-ukraine-must-defeat-putin/21808448 it would be a grand conspiracy indeed if all of these journalists were lying. There is absolutely no sign of it being specifically in Kiev. You think you can just safely come in and leave there? All the previous videos he released claiming that he is in Kiev were debunked, so I leave it to the specialists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff March 29, 2022 5 hours ago, surrept33 said: good luck with that. let's look at recent history. Russia and China just agreed less than two months ago to a new major pipeline, the "Power of Siberia 2" pipeline, on a 30-year deal. Notably, the transactions on that pipeline will be settled in Euros. Not Rubles. Not Yuan. Neither country trusts the other's currency to be sufficiently stable, and this is with a self-described "No Limits" partnership. If you are typical for a westerner, then your acceptance of fake news is a good thing. So you will not see the destruction coming your way. Ignorance is bliss. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,552 March 29, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, frankfurter said: If you are typical for a westerner, then your acceptance of fake news is a good thing. So you will not see the destruction coming your way. Ignorance is bliss. Ahh priceless the kettle calling the pot black. Or is that the other way around? Aside from that how you doing Frankie? Edited March 29, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,441 TN March 29, 2022 New Ukrainian Trend: Tying People to Trees (including kids), Flogging and Undressing Them VIDEOS and Photos - Painting their faces green with chemicals & See the Nazi symbols https://anti-empire.com/new-ukrainian-trend-tying-people-to-trees-flogging-and-undressing-them/ https://anti-empire.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 March 29, 2022 11 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: The actual deadline is April 1 - Pay in rubles, or the gas is getting cut NOW. Not accepting candy wrappers anymore. Lets see current trend So we passed from we will sanction Russia for oil and gas to please let us buy in dollars and euros. Finally you will pay in roubles because there is no short-time alternative. There is no sense for Russia to get paid in currency that might be blocked or frozen. Not at all If you dont want rouble you can paid in gold. But phisical one not paper one because this can also be blocked. West for too long get used to sanction small countries that cant take countermeasures. Not this time becuase this time we are talking about world largest commodity exporter. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrept33 + 609 st March 29, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, frankfurter said: If you are typical for a westerner, then your acceptance of fake news is a good thing. So you will not see the destruction coming your way. Ignorance is bliss. talk about fake news and ignorance, no bigger peddlers in the world than the Chinese and Russian governments: https://twitter.com/paulmozur/status/1507158336726175744 https://twitter.com/yaling_jiang/status/1506942831679533058 Edited March 29, 2022 by surrept33 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrept33 + 609 st March 29, 2022 Russia Is Lying About Evidence of Bioweapons Labs in Ukraine, Russian Biologists Say Russian scientists who have looked at the documents Russia calls proof of “bioweapons labs” in Ukraine say there is no evidence for such claims. https://theintercept.com/2022/03/17/russia-ukraine-bioweapons-misinformation/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites